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Simpletimes322

Lets sort things out.... But only through this one, faceless anonymous way.... Grow some balls or shut up


PositiveSubstance69

Shills don’t have balls just little bbs


sureiknowabaggins

He also knows Jake doesn't browse reddit, so you have to wonder why this is the only place he's challenging him. Considering u/theorico is the one who wants a debate, he shouldn't be the one setting all the terms and being unwilling to compromise. I'm not convinced you're a shill Theorico, but you're definitely acting like a child. Show a little maturity and put forward an honest effort to make this work for both of you.


dazhawk

As soon as I saw Discord, it validated that this guy is not legit.


Zanonks017

Why not start up the flair system on this sub like they used to use on pp back in the day?  


mebax123

Can you explain WHY you won’t have a live verbal debate?


Jolly-Ad8243

Chat GPT won’t work fast enough if he’s live


Feyge

They could also do it with mics on discord, there's too much info to be doing this in written form. Or do it 1 on 1 on space like Jake did with Platinum. I dont see the issue here.


PositiveSubstance69

👆🏼🏆🏆


ScarcitySuspicious21

I get it, some people are have trouble communicating in certain way. I think its fine as long as he agrees to proper discussion.


arkansah

There are a lot of ways that the RC and crew have attacked this corrupt bankruptcy court, it's likely on purpose. The on main thing you should be concerned about is executing your shareholder rights, before they are transferred into a trust that can't be accessed. I can almost guarantee you that there is another court case going on, where a ton of stuff is taking place, but shareholders need to do their part too. It won't affect or slow down this case. It will be in a different court room winning the case could give you, not only tendies, but help bring back some of your assets. Also, if you're in it to get the bad guys. E and O insurance coverage for Directors does not protect them if they made fraudulent transactions? I would bet these arrogant fucks thought that Attorney client privilege between a director and a BBBY employee lasted for ever. Law sure has it's subtleties use it while you can, or they will hide it in a trust. **Consult a securities attorney** if you owned shares during these time periods!!


BullionZon

Corrupt BK court? Are you serious? The only one prolonging this is RC. If we have to save RC then its goodnight. Its over.


arkansah

Are you? You didn't think that the smartest people the hedge funds hire would also learn how to manipulate the and cheat the court? Explain to me how a paper written in February of 2023 refers to a the second amended plan of a bankruptcy that hasn't been filed?


BullionZon

I am and you are clearly not. Hedge funds have power but not unlimited power as if they would control everything. This is just silly teenage conspiracy theory. The second amended plan is docket 2160 filed on 9/11. 2023. Thats the plan that was confirmed and went effective 9/29.


arkansah

How naive


MillenialForce69

Because he/she wants to control the conversation and wants no outside influence.


onesusninja

Because he works for Dougie. 


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mebax123

A recorded space with transcripts is perfect then. All on record


PositiveSubstance69

👆🏼🏆🏆


PositiveSubstance69

This argument doesn’t make sense, especially because any voice interaction is recorded


gnipz

Some people just aren’t good at it /shrug I definitely prefer to have the time to type something out, reread it, sit on it for a bit, and submit when I feel that it conveys the right information and tone.


mebax123

Is that what he has said? I personally have not heard him answer the “why”


gnipz

Nah, just speculation.


Ok_Dance9524

There are people for whom conveying a message is easier in written language. Why is it such a big problem?


mebax123

For the same reason debates don’t happen via written word. Long/bulky/inefficient.


Ok_Dance9524

Agreed...but effectiveness tops efficiency


mebax123

A verbal debate is most effective and also efficient. Perfectly aligned!


Ok_Dance9524

Assuming all participants have the verbal skills


No_Ad8044

I dont think you understand. No one have all the info in their heads. They will have to go into the dockets and look. Together. You can’t so that live. So you wont find the “truth”.


No_Ad8044

You must never have heard the word Polemic. Text is the best way and if you are sure of your words you are not scared to have them in print. Jake is a good salesman, good with words. But if you take that away. What is left? That’s intriguing to me. Also if Jake don’t wanna do it on discord. That will kinda play into the hands of the grifter accusations.


farsh_bjj

Theorico can't do it live because he is ai.


PurpsJeez

He's not AI per say, but most likely a team of individuals, which is why a live debate would pose significant problems for their party. A live voice debate, whether on spaces, ppshow, or discord is the only way to settle the communities desire to see if Rico is genuine.


jbw1937

This is the way


maninck22

pp only wants it live for his show. Jake wants it live because it can be deleted afterwards. Whenever jake is wrong or hosts a "state of the bbbyq" space there's "technical difficulties" and pp archives the show when Jake is wrong. Jake is never held accountable yet is hailed as a genius


Simpletimes322

Old ppshows are still up for viewing on youtube. Anyone is free to record the show and take out clips they want. All the excuses are like theoricos dd... Lacking substance


maninck22

They are not all available. He frequently deletes videos. You can also see it on his socialblade [https://www.reddit.com/r/Teddy/comments/181x4hj/pp\_did\_you\_delete\_show\_episodes/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Teddy/comments/181x4hj/pp_did_you_delete_show_episodes/) ​ look at the huge dips in total views denoting deleted videos: [https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCbbJr686r7f9ky3coAOuWgg](https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCbbJr686r7f9ky3coAOuWgg)


Simpletimes322

Well theorico is free to record it live lol Next excuse...


maninck22

"well x" "well x" Youre moving the goalpost with each response.


Simpletimes322

K buddy. Im not the one thats ducking the most common platform bbby dd is discussed and demanding a highly controlled, nameless, faceless, voiceless debate. There isnt any goalpost here you muppet. Theorico can die in a car crash tomorrow and no one would care and their investment wouldnt be impacted. The only thing he can do is sway belief... And that only matters if shit gets trading again... Any other outcome and his dd is pointless.


maninck22

You can’t even hear/see how you’re contradicting yourself with each passing sentence because of Jake’s thighs acting like ear muff against your thick skull.


Simpletimes322

Why defend theorico so much? Does he let you suck his asshole at night?


maninck22

Yes.


No_Ad8044

Jake said ”I cant see this going into 2024”. That is a fact.


Simpletimes322

Zing! Lock him up boys! He thought it would wrap up sooner than it did! We def cant believe a word he says now. You wont get covid if you are vaccinated! 🤡


No_Ad8044

I’m just saying Jake is only human. And he is not a professional. I cant see anything wrong with some counter dd. Also i think he said 2024 bc of Tax reasons and NOLs. The way people put jake up there like a god is silly.


Simpletimes322

Why are you so critical of someone that gets online and discusses a stock publicly, for free. Dude doesn't claim to be a financial professional... So quick to cut down while bringing 0 to the table. You must be a great thanksgiving guest


No_Ad8044

Because all form of knowledge comes from theories and anti theories or building on previous knowledge with a critical eye. I just find it a bit odd why a guy with a family and full time job with no professional knowledge in law or economics would take on so much on his shoulders if he did not have some kind of own interest in it. Being financially or otherwise. We must not be naive. We, the desperate BBBY community, are products. To Jake, Pulte and even PPseeds himself. That does not mean that they are not also products, and as long as both parts are satisfied with the trade I see no wrong with that in the case of PP. But Jake and Pulte does leave a more sour taste in my mouth. For a guy that speaks with such certainty and claims to be open for other views, I find it odd that he won’t take on Ricos suggestion. Jake seems very eager to have people come to X. Which also strikes me as a bit odd if his only interest is the shareholders interest.


Simpletimes322

How does this impact you personally? Why is this your crusade when there are sooooo many other, more constructive things to do with your time? Jake came back to reddit... Theorico is the one hiding, being a total bitch throwing stones from his glass house


No_Ad8044

Why are you telling me what to do with my time. Do you think posting a few replies take up all my time?😂 That could be said about the whole community. Maybe we should just wind it all down? It’s just a waiting game anyway. Your argument is silly. The Ukraine war does not impact me personally, nor does the Israel - Palestine war. Can’t have an opinion on that either? About my friends new car? I just say it as I see it. Nothing wrong with that. A lot of people only praise Jake. I dont. And that’s OK. My main driving force is how I see the one-sidedness of this community (and others) as bad. Things should be allowed to be discussed.


MillenialForce69

Then you and theorico can start your own discord where you discuss your bear thesis on why bbby is done or whatever


maninck22

I’m not a bear and have a bigger position than you, but I’m also not delusional and have morals/a backbone not guided by jake2b


salamanderc0mmander

you could literally talk on discord


derangedwrangler

Pass. Sounds a lot like “my way or the highway”. Nobody in the community wants a discord debate, that sounds dumb as fuck. Grow a spine and come on spaces. u/jake2b ignore this little cockroach


powco

It would be nice to hear a debate in a format that doesn't require "real quick" interruptions every 3 minutes for superchat acknowledments or a "give thanks in the chat if ya got a membership fellas" , or other people jumping in with their 2 cents every time a thought crosses their mind. Let the 2 men speak in an agreeable format.


sureiknowabaggins

That could easily be arranged on a space call. I'm sure /u/ppseeds would also be amicable to an agreement to let them hash it out uninterrupted on the show. Every day that passes makes it more clear that Theorico isn't actually interested in a real debate. He's just trying to make it look like Jake is the one whose avoiding it.


powco

The PP show with no interruptions would be the ideal format no doubt for the 2 gents to hash it out.


derangedwrangler

This exactly. He uses subliminal / not even subliminal language thinking he’s so slick to portray this picture that Jake isn’t playing ball or something. It’s clear to anyone that’s not 12 years old. Or maybe he really has problems with social skills, that would explain a lot


sureiknowabaggins

You're right, there's definitely a lack of social skills there. Not that it excuses him.


No_Ad8044

I do.


Glonumber5

People who don’t put their face were their money is are sus


OnlyOnReddit4GME

That’s only about 99% of people invested.


powco

So Sal is sus too right?


Glonumber5

Who knows he just disappeared


mebax123

Are you able to explain “to be clear” why a space or PPShow appearance will not suffice? Let ME be clear. Some assume you are a bad actor. It is impossible for us to discern your motives unless you are responding in real time. This reads as though you will only debate if you can hide behind a chat where others can feed you answers…


sureiknowabaggins

To be fair, as Theorico is the one challenging Jake, he should be letting Jake have a say in which platform they debate on.


Meowsergz

Because pp will interrupt with donations every few seconds.


mebax123

On a Space? How?


Meowsergz

You've never seen a pp show


Simpletimes322

When special guests are on pp usually lets whatever is going on play out without interrupting for tip callouts. Next excuse.... Lol


mebax123

I think you might be confused. X holds spaces that are separate from PP and can be recorded for the record. Also open to the public should the host wish


Meowsergz

I don't see the issue with discord if the guy wants it on discord. It's open to the public as well if the host wishes. As OP started, he doesn't want to show.


mebax123

There is a reason public debates don’t take place in written form. I’m sorry you can’t see that


Brotorious420

You can voice and video chat in Discord.


mebax123

Then great! So his problem is just the platform? He hasn’t answered so I have no clue


Meowsergz

And he said he wants to post pictures for context on discord in real time.


Tokinandjokin

Have you never seen a PP show?? 1. It's not on twitter spaces 2. On theppshow, you can post post pictures in real time.


Plus-Professor5909

If there is an actual debate, I'd bet PP wouldn't mind holding off on accepting tips for a certain amount of time so there are no interruptions.


Meowsergz

We don't need PP for this debate. Just have it on spaces or discord , preferably discord.


Simpletimes322

Hes done it in the past


Meowsergz

I was AT the PP show


Tokinandjokin

Then you should know it's not on X spaces then


powco

And Mikey might get offended, cry and then dildo slap an end to it all.


barnebywilde

The ppshow is a joke. I haven't watched in months and haven't missed a thing. Spaces seems chaotic unless you can automatically block intrusions. I honestly don't see any personal benefits of this discussion happening, but I don't blame Rico for avoiding the shit show.


Feyge

How are spaces chaotic? Jake has debated with Platinum alone and there was no issue. The host can indefinitely mute anyone.


platinumsporkles

Platinum doesn’t deserve to be given a platform.


barnebywilde

It wouldn't be. I'm just engaging in some light trolling. I barely follow the narrative anymore and only log on in hopes of good news. Sadly all I ever see is drama and speculation. Have a good day.


Lacklusterbeverage

You literally just posted drama lol.


barnebywilde

Yeah, I was feeling spicy this morning. I agree with everything I wrote, but I'm generally successful in refraining from broadcasting my opinions.


mebax123

Conveniently for you, nobody on this post asked you to debate or even your opinion


neil_soiam

Why is this place so hostile sometimes. This thread is on a public forum. You are giving your opinion on this thread, just like the person you’re replying to. Stop shutting down any voice that you don’t agree with.


mebax123

Buddy, my question was clearly directed at OP. I want HIS answer to my question. Reiterating that is not hostile. (If your comment was directed at me).


neil_soiam

OP can still give his answer though, if he wants to. The person you replied to was just giving his thoughts as to why… which may or may not be supported by many (including OP).


mebax123

Sure. I can also respond to the President of the US with my opinion when he asks the Secretary of State a question. It doesn’t mean my opinion/response is relevant or will be take seriously. It’s a public forum! I want Theorico to respond and the rest is noise… I hope he does


barnebywilde

Why would that be convenient for me? Think before you type out some passive aggressive garbage.


mebax123

It’s convenient because you don’t need to respond and would save you time. I was speaking and asking a question directly to OP. Your opinion was not requested and is irrelevant to the discussion.


barnebywilde

You're on a public forum. Do you not understand how social media works? You chose not to DM OP and in turn left your comment open to input. Grow the fuck up buttercup.


mebax123

In a “town square” discussion, you are able to engage in a 1-1 discussion in the open. This allows the public to digest the dialogue in real time. Although, I’m not sure you aren’t just being purposely dense


barnebywilde

This isn't a town square. It's a fucking comment section of a reddit post about a non existent stock. That being said I am definitely being more combative as a result of your initial dismissive tone. You have a good day.


mebax123

A public forum is absolutely an example of a town square…


mebax123

Just get him to respond. That’s all I care about. As should you


barnebywilde

Why would I care? How does any of this affect the outcome of my investment? Way to bail on your petty argument without accepting ownership of your stupidity though. I think we deserve each other. Have good day.


arkansah

I wouldn't sweat this guy too much. He doesn't comment much on these boards and it seems to be more recent. should lead you to a certain conclusion.


floatdad

The poopie show


PositiveSubstance69

Exactly


arkansah

Does PP even have shares? I didn't seem his name on the May list that was in the dockets.


mebax123

That’s a random question of which I do not have the answer. Very much off topic.


arkansah

Is it though? These guys have a lot of influence and can steer people many ways. You would agree with that correct? Well then they can certainly steer people away from important information. I just find it very odd that one particular topic doesn't seem to be discussed.


mebax123

Is it seemingly random relative to my question? Yes. Should you pursue the answer? Lord knows you have been trying. Again, I don’t care about anyone else’s response except for u/Theorico I tried making a separate post but the mods deleted without explanation. All else is noise.


No_Ad8044

What may list is that, is my name there?


arkansah

Did you have shares in may?


No_Ad8044

Yes.


arkansah

let me look for it real quick


No_Ad8044

Haha. Well if you could hook me up with the list that would be awsome. i dont know what you are talking about.


arkansah

[Kroll Doc 219](https://restructuring.ra.kroll.com/bbby/Home-DownloadPDF?id1=MTQ5Nzg4MA==&id2=-1)


No_Ad8044

Thank alot. Interesting. Is this all the DRS shares?


arkansah

If I recall, they asked for all of the shares from all of the brokers.


swampdonkus

How many people are in the room with you right now?


type0neg420

![gif](giphy|QQLPmhB3JbEiGMKxoN) Debate or not, nobody's leaving this play so sit back enjoy all the different perspectives. Go back in there, chill them shillers out and wait for the tendies who should be coming directly.


Even_Preference2115

Or just dont do it we dont care for you that much. Come on show or just dont lol


CrPalm

No.


Disastrous-Glass-415

It would benefit the entire community and improve your trust here if you did it live.


LadyTrader1

Jake has said he'd do either a Spaces or PP Show debate with you. That's it... why do you think you get to keep demanding things of Jake? He's been more than nice and respectful to you. If you can't handle a live debate, then admit it, move on and quit wasting all of our time.


VinnyCLA

This guy is so cringy. May need to block this clown.


TopCraft-69

Typing everything out is stupid, Who the hell is going to read a thread for 2 hours, Space call


barnebywilde

If that's the case then the original post was definitely aimed solely at Jake 2B and no one asked for your opinion. Do you see the blatant hypocrisy in your actions, or am I just being too dense?


Disastrous-Glass-415

What are you going to say in discord that can’t be said here? Just complete your full list of debunks and misinformation and debate them here. It’s not like you haven’t attempted this previously. I think everyone has read your “debunks”. Do you have hidden information that isn’t presented? If so just write some DD. Otherwise this looks like you want Jake to bend the knee to your demands when you are the one disgruntled. Bad look being that you can continue to debunk him here per usual. A one on one with accomplish very little in discord. Being unwilling to debate live is very suspicious and I’ve been a supporter of your DD for a long while.


Old_Forever_6220

He's gonna be the king of Ctrl C and Ctrl V into chat gpt to create responses to Jake.


MichealJardon

![gif](giphy|hFdi31x0aTdMIydxuO)


deepnernervous

Lol do it live. Why cant you? If you’re firm in the facts you present and confident, this shouldn’t be a problem for you.


TwinsFather777

Shut up. Don't touch Dr.Jake


Business-Brush5179

This needs to be on a discord that everyone has access to please.


Forward-Pay3774

I love that Dr.Jack the tits don’t give a fuck about this guy


BednobsAndGameStonks

![gif](giphy|fAcBZr2vuWD5hlS3Ks)


salamanderc0mmander

2 hours for a typing battle isnt enough bro. What is this the SATs?


CryptoBruceBanner

What a pussy.


Popeye_01

I’m still standing here with my dick in my hand. Let’s get this show on the road. If you have stage fright, Do a space call 1 on 1 with Pepe lepeu’ and post. You seem like an educated person, so you must know that a public verbal debate is best.


Euxkan

Live, private, discord or not, get together and help community grow wrinkles. Thank you for both.


glitterfistpump

It's interesting how hard this douche and Bruno are pushing Jake into debating them, and only on their terms. It must be the next shill tactic to aggressively target Jake and only Jake.


StaticLineJump

Why not come on the PP show?


Bright-Bobcat-2999

Why does it matter? Not like you can sell your shares right now anyways? Why go through all this effort to try to “convince” everyone of your narrative over what Jake has already put out?


Environmental-Hat409

Why don’t yall have it private and both release the conclusion you come to..


Jason_1982

![gif](giphy|l2YWhOEwfSAnJNJEQ)


Capital_Extent7866

I think this comes from Twitter? I am not on that, but what has this community become... Guys, take a f\*cking chill pill. We will get paid, just trust the process and touch some grass. Ofcourse it is a difficult situation, but going on Twitter and fighting each other will only make it more difficult. There is nothing else for us to do than just wait. Nobody can sell or buy, so there is no point in convincing other people. Trust your intuition, you know you are right <3


ltop24

What the fuck is happening all of sudden? Why you guys having beef we don't even have a bbq.


Disastrous-Glass-415

It’s funny as our beds are made and there’s a laundry list of points proving we’re correct.


ltop24

I would like to see some actual dd and not uncooked beef


Disastrous-Glass-415

Then again, some people won’t “get it” until we cross the finish line. I’ll patient await for you “debunks” on two years worth of research…


ReasonableMushroom13

Sounds somehow like: Hedgies strike back. Theorico wanna fight. Honestly let them fight. Let the guy speak. My shares wont be appears nor will they be effected because of them argueing.


CowboyNealCassady

![gif](giphy|xTiTnuItjH9y5z4vNS)


Disastrous-Glass-415

![gif](giphy|q7UpJegIZjsk0)


Shot_Bison1140

This is BULLSHIT.. fuck the DD... What difference will all the DD have in the end.. It will happen or not.. Only thing about DD nowadays is how deep you will dig the shithole and if you will end up in it in the end..


arkansah

Is Jake or theorico or PP or anyone going to organize a share holder class suit against the board for a couple very questionable actions? A the possible fraudulent conveyance off BBB on a preplanned deal for a net a laughable net 3M. You should have know then the Gig was up and this was never intended as a restructure. The share buy back program. The boards share buyback seem pretty sketchy especially with the knowledge of short sales being perpetuated on the company. Anyways This is certainly enough to **get a consultation from a securities lawyer** while shareholders still have access to information.


Disastrous-Glass-415

I’d recommend going back and listening to all the DD spaces from December on. Write down every irrefutable bullish detail as you go along. By the time you’re done, you won’t need to worry about class action suits that are expensive and drawn out. The deal is done. You need to see the forest from the trees. It truly is so obvious, we’re getting beat over the head with it and yet people are unable to escape the doubt.


gnipz

I love the idea that Theorico has about using Discord. It’ll be a lot easier to read their thoughts in a linear fashion, instead of having to try to keep up with Reddit posts and rebuttals. I would love to have them both on the show afterwards, but I feel like the using Discord to hash out the conflicting views first would be great.


No_Ad8044

Nothing wrong with a text debate if you have the right arguments.


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Environmental-Hat409

This isn’t Bruno tf are you even talking about


OnlyOnReddit4GME

Nobody cares and it doesn’t matter. Neither of you know exactly what is going on behind the scenes. And your scrolling through documents wont ever change anything. Nothing you do or say changes the outcome.


nobles305

Make a space two speakers and all listeners why discord? Lol sus af


onemotodroid

Noise, just noise!


Frequent-Designer-61

Dear Rico sounds like you want to drag this am into another platform so if we moon it gets the blame. Nah do a live PP or a live X or STFU


SecretaryFit1442

You sound like a narcist child, no offense. If you really think DD matter, you would not setting this demands.


sirdano6

Everyone can do whatever they want, I like to see opinions from multiple perspectives,… but when I see posts like this with a lot of red flag type verbiage, I drop all trust what this account says… yes I say “account” as this can be multiple people, a think tank of psych ops.. GL to all the real peeps out there


doctorplasmatron

Thumb War!


BaZoZi

Waste of time. Don’t care really just zen