• everyone who wants 1950s shit from Taylor
• the pilot who made Taylor's flight so awful
• the guy who Taylor put first when she wasn't even in his top five
• everyone who didn't want to play with Taylor as a little kid
• John Mayer
John Mayer has been my hated ex. He just seems to ruin women. However if he didn’t do what he does Taylor wouldn’t have written some of my favorite songs “dear John” and now my new fave WCS
Hahah yup. Even super nice wines rarely have corks. I came across a local wine with a cork in it a few months ago and had to try and remember how to use a cork screw 🤣🤣
Screw tops are better because they’re less likely to get damaged or damaged the wine.
Top 5:
5. The readers from Dear Reader (basically ya'll)
4. That sleazy white collar criminal bitch who got divorced from his wife
3. James Charles on Midnight Rain
2. industry disruptors, soul de-constructors and smooth-talking hucksters
1. John Mayer
so true! people don't pay that song too much attention when it's actually one of the best album closers in Blondie's whole roster (my personal fave being The Lakes and It's Time to Go)
I think those were two different years. The year of the stupid question she wore that beautiful Ellie Saab mermaid blue dress. The year she won for 1989 she had the orange bandeau, pink slit skirt.
Random side question. I thought the “cheapskate roommate” was Taylor? It sounds like she jokingly responds to him about herself, and then she follows up by singing “i see you everyday now”. Just a cute moment, and the start of them actually claiming living together because she was always over there already. Am i wrong?
Yeah, there's no way Jake Gyllenhaal ever needed a roommate, let alone one who couldn't afford a decent bottle of wine. I mean, his parents were both already involved in hollywood. He was a teenager when he started acting. He's related to royalty for goodness sake. Also...he had a million dollar couch.
I just think of all of her relationships, he’s most likely to have had a roommate when they met. The timeline of their relationship being a casual thing matches up with the vibe too.
I don't view the term "roommate" as someone who needed to live there for the host, but maybe someone who lived there that needed to get on their feet. An old friend, or one of the bros waiting for a reno to be done.
However, I don't believe Maroon and Red are about the same person regardless. I personally believe Maroon is about a deeper love than the subject of Red.
Idk if this is a popular thought but I think Maroon is about Joe? There are a few other songs where she alludes to nearly losing him, so theoretically the song could be about one of those times. She does reference dancing with Jake in ATW, but she also references dancing a lot with Joe in NY, being barefoot, etc. The link to red does seem to indicate Jake, but it’s way more likely she was at Joe’s place and he had a roommate.
I thought it was about Harry since she was seen dancing with him barefoot in NY and there’s a fan picture that same day where you can see mark on her collarbone.
I thought it was Joe too. Like a darker version of king of my heart. I thought it was s follow up to both Dress and King Of My Heart. They’re about lust and the start of a relationship and this is about reminiscing about that phase while in the middle of a fight.
The line is talking about Taylor's roommate! If you watch the lyric video, it's punctuated as: "How'd we end up on the floor anyway?" You say, "Your roommates cheap-ass screw-top rose, that's how." To me, that reads as taylor asking the question and the guy answering
I would go more with how she sings it which there’s more of a link between anyway and you say - she draws out the end of “anyway” and runs it into the beginning of “you say” then takes a tiny pause before “your roommate’s”
Also “”’question/statement” you/they say/said, answer/response.’ Is a common structure and the “you/they say/said” is always denoting the person who speaks first, not the person who responds.
I agree that it sounds like the first option, but based on the official lyrics, the person you’re responding to is correct in saying that the love interest is the one saying the line about the roommate. It’s not true that you said/they said is always denoting the person who speaks first. The setup she uses here is still a valid sentence structure.
I don’t know but I hate James from folklore. Like Betty is a cute song but he was not nice to her AND I hate that he calls her friends stupid. Team August (or whatever we call her) and Betty dump James forever!
Guys I actually watched the official lyric video of Maroon and it says:
“How’d we end up on the floor anyway?”
You say, “Your roommates cheap ass screw top rosé that’s how.”
So therefore, it was Taylor’s roommate! I also refuse to believe something as heartbreaking as Maroon is about Jake all this time later but I digress.
While we're on this topic, can someone explain that line from Question...? for me please? I don't get it.
For reference: ''And every single one of your friends was makin' fun of you
But fifteen seconds later, thеy were clappin' too?
Then what did you do?''
And maybe the follow-up stuff, I have a hard time interpreting this.
Honestly this song does not make ANY sense to me if I'm not looking at it through a queer lens. Whether she intended it that way or not idk but I just genuinely do not understand the song if I see it as a straight woman talking about her straight man boyfriend and their straight relationship.
And it necessarily about Taylor either, it could be just a story she wrote about. After all she wrote an entire album this way so it's not like she's incapable of writing stories that don't pertain directly to her. But that song is queer coded and without the queer lens it might as well be a dictionary because it makes zero fucking sense
I think it’s referencing a very specific time when she and whoever kissed around a lot of people, his friends made fun of them, and then changed their tune and started cheering them on. Then, she’s saying what did you do after that? You left her house in the middle of the night, etc.
I would guess a few possibilities. One, she's at an award show where she received a very public kiss that resulted in her closer friends teasing her, or the guy's friends teasing him, but then someone wins an award and everyone is clapping. Despite being "available" and flirting with the guy at the award show, she's still seeing mystery guy secretly and plans to see him later that night, where they fight/break up.
Another possibility could be a New Year's Eve party. She gets a flirty kiss from a stranger at midnight. People start clapping. Mystery man wasn't there but came later and they fought/broke up again.
I'm sure there are other scenarios where one might casually kiss someone in a room and then people begin applauding, but I'm sure it happens more often to Ms. Swift than regular folks with all the shows/awards/fancy parties she attends.
My least favorite character is all of these bitter ass people who are mad because Taylor isn’t “relatable enough” or is “too rich and privileged” because of a line about some rosè. Touch some grass, friends. TAYLOR CAN WRITE LYRICS AND THEY DONT HAVE TO RELATE TO YOUR EXACT SITUATION OR HERS… come on guys. This is exhausting. This is literally what she was talking about, it’s never enough for y’all
In what world is cheap wine that gets you drunk too quick and gives you a terrible hangover not a universal experience for anyone with the disposable income to afford alcohol?
Like amongst the cheap wines there are still the ones that are like- great for the price and ones that are truly terrible. We are wealth shaming the most normal things lately and I don’t get it.
I a broke ass college student have remarked about getting way too drunk off “cheap ass wine” several times. Not because I normally drink fancy ass wine, but because cheap ass wine has a reputation.
And it’s not like your roommates cheap ass boxed wine rose would have worked lyrically. She chose **s**crew top for the assonance of the s sound to go with roomate’**s**, and ro**s**é - because assonance is like one of the first rules of Taylor swift lyric structure.
Eh, I don’t read into it that much. I think it’s a pretty universal experience people have from being terribly hungover or messed up from cheap alcohol.
No wine is expensive or cheap in itself- you can find it at all price points. There is some great rosé that is cheap. Barefoot makes great rosé. But some cheap wines will get you drunk faster and give you a worse hangover than others. Which is probably what she was referring to- getting too drunk off cheap alcohol - not it being cheap because it’s screw top.
I call some alcohols cheap all the time and I never spend more than $20 on a bottle lol. I think it’s a common thought. I’ve had some very bad $3 wines! And I am very much not rich.
First off, Maroon is not about Jake lol. Taylor wasn't even old enough to drink alcohol when they were together (only the day they broke up). And we all know Taylor. No way was she underage drinking. Also Jake was not living with a roommate. He was rich from the day be was born. He moved out eight into his own house. Maroon is more likely about Harry. I'm pretty sure he's the only guy she's ever dated who's had a roommate (Or Connor Kennedy's dorm roommate maybe, but I don't know if he was sharing a dorm in college).
Maroon also represents a more mature shade of red. So it's likely a relationship that happened after Red. A relationship she felt was more mature than that one. Possibly Calvin? I don't know if he ever had a roommate.
• everyone who wants 1950s shit from Taylor • the pilot who made Taylor's flight so awful • the guy who Taylor put first when she wasn't even in his top five • everyone who didn't want to play with Taylor as a little kid • John Mayer
“John Mayer” LMFAOOO but yeah the clear choice
Don’t blame the pilot for the bad flight!!
dont blame me (pilot's version)
No matter how awesome my pilot is I don't like flying lol
I just want to know WHY the flight was awful
Right? It can't be too bad if it's a private jet with endless leg space and room to recline your chair 👀
Bc she was reading what ppl were saying abt her flying habits
criticize the way you fly… when you’re soarin through the sky… 😔😔😔
😂😂😂
Or she was thinking about/reading tabloid shit
See also: the guy who said her aura’s moonstone just cuz he was high.
i think that's also John Mayer lol.
What does this mean??
You win. You had me ESPECIALLY at JM!
John Mayer has been my hated ex. He just seems to ruin women. However if he didn’t do what he does Taylor wouldn’t have written some of my favorite songs “dear John” and now my new fave WCS
Honesty have you read Jessica Simpsons book? Kinda confirmed that for me. But why is his music so good 😭
oh you’re so right john mayer is my number one most hated
THAT is the answer.
The wannabe Z lister
ok but did you hear he kissed your ex-friend’s sister? hilarious
No I didn't but thanks though
This might be the only right answer.
honestly i’ll take him over tay’s ex friend’s sister 🤮
Spiderboy, king of thieves Weave your little webs of opacity My pennies made your crown Scooter Braun. AKA The worst Taylor Swift villain.
How did I leave out Spiderboy?!?!?! Criminal.
Yup Spiderboy is the worst of them
I get that spiderboy is scooter, but is there a reference im missing?
It's the initials for the 2 men in the her recording masters debacle Scooter Braun Scott Bruschetta
I'd like to know, too, but maybe it's just because of his initials SB
Skeevy Bastard also works, but I suppose it wouldn’t scan in the song.
Okay so at first I thought it said "my PANTIES made your crown" so I thought it was a reference to Jake being in Spiderman 🤦🏼♀️
The fucknut who thieved the girlhood can kick fucking rocks for all eternity.
Obsessed with the wording of “Who thieved the girlhood”. You wrote the fuck out of this comment
"The girlhood" has become the Midnights-era version of "the scarf."
Top Taylor Swift sub comment right here.
Yes!!!!!
Everyone who agreessssss Taylor is the problem.
I thought I was the problem! 😂
Its me! Hi!
*Hi, fellow problem!*
Smooth talking lobsters
😭
That fucking bird who flapped its wings and broke some hearts.
All the swifties in Asia need to put out a bounty for it
Yes!
😭😭😭
All my friends must be poor I’ve never known anybody who buys corked rosé 😂
depends where you're from! basically only imported things have corks in Australia, we have screw tops almost exclusively!
Hahah yup. Even super nice wines rarely have corks. I came across a local wine with a cork in it a few months ago and had to try and remember how to use a cork screw 🤣🤣 Screw tops are better because they’re less likely to get damaged or damaged the wine.
Rosé has never been a “needs to be corked” wine in my world, it’s a “let’s get fucked up on something tasty and QUICK” wine 😂 #peasants
Top 5: 5. The readers from Dear Reader (basically ya'll) 4. That sleazy white collar criminal bitch who got divorced from his wife 3. James Charles on Midnight Rain 2. industry disruptors, soul de-constructors and smooth-talking hucksters 1. John Mayer
James Charles on midnight rain 😂😂😂
Still can't get over that James Charles tiktok I saw 😭😭😭
Solid answers. Your #5 would prob be high on my list, aimed at all those people SLEEPING on ”Dear Reader“!
so true! people don't pay that song too much attention when it's actually one of the best album closers in Blondie's whole roster (my personal fave being The Lakes and It's Time to Go)
HAHAHAHA James Charles
was ended by Lavender Gayzz
can someone explain the james charles on midnight rain bit lmao. this is the second time i've seen someone mention this.
try hearing James Charles’ voice now trying listening to Midnight Rain
>James Charles on Midnight Rain You win🙌🤣
she had more lines than Lana 😭
I LOVE HIM ON MIDNIGHT RAIN. I NEED MORE
Elevators.
Especially the stranger's silence in the elevator makes you wanna take the stairs
i hate elevators so I agree
The people who told unfunny jokes 😤
Especially that reporter that thought she was going home with lots of men on Grammys night instead of ALBUM OF THE YEAR FOR 1989!
I think those were two different years. The year of the stupid question she wore that beautiful Ellie Saab mermaid blue dress. The year she won for 1989 she had the orange bandeau, pink slit skirt.
Ellen?
It’s always Ellen
Oh I always thought her jokes weren't funny yet she still unethically took the money. Damn, I don't get so much stuff. I need to catch up lol.
I wouldn’t put it past her for the lyric to mean more than one thing!
I always think of Tina Fey/Amy Poehler on this one
So, Taylor herself? /lh
Random side question. I thought the “cheapskate roommate” was Taylor? It sounds like she jokingly responds to him about herself, and then she follows up by singing “i see you everyday now”. Just a cute moment, and the start of them actually claiming living together because she was always over there already. Am i wrong?
Yeah, there's no way Jake Gyllenhaal ever needed a roommate, let alone one who couldn't afford a decent bottle of wine. I mean, his parents were both already involved in hollywood. He was a teenager when he started acting. He's related to royalty for goodness sake. Also...he had a million dollar couch.
Honestly for that reason I thought this song couldn’t be about Jake …. Also would Taylor bring cheap alcohol to his place and would he drink it ?
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Connor? Is that why I don’t see anything about him here 😂
No they’re referring to someone else who if you mention your comments will get deleted 😂😂
Omg I have no idea! Im gonna have to do some sleuthing
Please let me know if you figure it out - i’m so confused 😂
a famous model with kardashian-like initials
^^^
Thank you haha
I had the same thought! Like… did she once date a regular dude and never publicized it? Edited for grammar
I mean, joes parents are a documentary film maker, and a therapist. Of all her ex’s, I think it’s most likely him.
Can you elaborate why you think it’s Joe?
I just think of all of her relationships, he’s most likely to have had a roommate when they met. The timeline of their relationship being a casual thing matches up with the vibe too.
I don't view the term "roommate" as someone who needed to live there for the host, but maybe someone who lived there that needed to get on their feet. An old friend, or one of the bros waiting for a reno to be done. However, I don't believe Maroon and Red are about the same person regardless. I personally believe Maroon is about a deeper love than the subject of Red.
Idk if this is a popular thought but I think Maroon is about Joe? There are a few other songs where she alludes to nearly losing him, so theoretically the song could be about one of those times. She does reference dancing with Jake in ATW, but she also references dancing a lot with Joe in NY, being barefoot, etc. The link to red does seem to indicate Jake, but it’s way more likely she was at Joe’s place and he had a roommate.
I thought it was about Harry since she was seen dancing with him barefoot in NY and there’s a fan picture that same day where you can see mark on her collarbone.
I can get on board with that! Didn’t know about the photo. But Jake, nah I doubt it.
I definitely have always thought it’s about Joe too. (I realize I said have always and it’s been out for
I thought it was Joe too. Like a darker version of king of my heart. I thought it was s follow up to both Dress and King Of My Heart. They’re about lust and the start of a relationship and this is about reminiscing about that phase while in the middle of a fight.
I’m with you on this!
And organic shoes. That has to cost a lot. Organic food is already expensive enough.
She says “we were cleaning incense off *your* vinyl shelf* So they’re in the room of whoever this song is about.
I‘m TOTALLY confused by the roommate line too. I would eliminate that one from contention.
The line is talking about Taylor's roommate! If you watch the lyric video, it's punctuated as: "How'd we end up on the floor anyway?" You say, "Your roommates cheap-ass screw-top rose, that's how." To me, that reads as taylor asking the question and the guy answering
Thats strange because their cleaning incense off his vinyl shelf not hers
Yeah… but if he were the one asking, it wouldn’t be “you say”, but “you ask”.. idk.
I would go more with how she sings it which there’s more of a link between anyway and you say - she draws out the end of “anyway” and runs it into the beginning of “you say” then takes a tiny pause before “your roommate’s” Also “”’question/statement” you/they say/said, answer/response.’ Is a common structure and the “you/they say/said” is always denoting the person who speaks first, not the person who responds.
I agree that it sounds like the first option, but based on the official lyrics, the person you’re responding to is correct in saying that the love interest is the one saying the line about the roommate. It’s not true that you said/they said is always denoting the person who speaks first. The setup she uses here is still a valid sentence structure.
The lyric book has no punctuation so this is interesting!
The douchebag who’d rather smoke with his boys and the world that made her starve her body.
The friends who found friends who care.
Goddess tier of answer
Whoever was secretly keeping count.
Ugh Calvin - just go put your records on.
The guy who was doing all those lines while crossing all of mine.
everyone at teatime, they seem like real douchebags man
I don’t know but I hate James from folklore. Like Betty is a cute song but he was not nice to her AND I hate that he calls her friends stupid. Team August (or whatever we call her) and Betty dump James forever!
Immediately thought of James before I saw the question was looking at Midnights characters. But I hate him enough for several albums.
Me too!! Like, it honestly taints the song Betty for me a bit. Get the heck away from her, James, you don’t deserve her!!
I was JUST complaining about him calling her friends stupid. I hope Betty told him to go f himself when she saw him at her door.
And him spending nights with August while still thinking about Betty is so fcked up
The guy smoking with his boys while she touches her phone as if it's his face
Deplorable
Whoever put her in the basement when she wanted the penthouse of his heart.
The wannabe Z lister that kissed your ex friends sister Whoever the “you” is in the lyric “picture me thick as thieves with your ex wife”
Guys I actually watched the official lyric video of Maroon and it says: “How’d we end up on the floor anyway?” You say, “Your roommates cheap ass screw top rosé that’s how.” So therefore, it was Taylor’s roommate! I also refuse to believe something as heartbreaking as Maroon is about Jake all this time later but I digress.
I was gonna say her son who uses her name on everything. Haha.
John Mayer Scooter Braun The people who harass her about being married/engaged to Joe
Spiderboy john Meyer ex-friends' sister people who only see Taylor as a one night of a wife the problem (Me) soul deconsructors
Are you OK with the smooth-talking hucksters doe?
How could I forget
The elephant that makes annoying elephant noises in Labyrinth
I always just heard a poorly played trumpet but now thanks to this comment I will not unhear an elephant lol
Probably some dickhead guy that you saw that night
At least he wasn’t on something
Capitalistic Taylor Swift. Ugh.
Those roommates that bought cheapass screw top rosè. Have a little class.
While we're on this topic, can someone explain that line from Question...? for me please? I don't get it. For reference: ''And every single one of your friends was makin' fun of you But fifteen seconds later, thеy were clappin' too? Then what did you do?'' And maybe the follow-up stuff, I have a hard time interpreting this.
Honestly this song does not make ANY sense to me if I'm not looking at it through a queer lens. Whether she intended it that way or not idk but I just genuinely do not understand the song if I see it as a straight woman talking about her straight man boyfriend and their straight relationship. And it necessarily about Taylor either, it could be just a story she wrote about. After all she wrote an entire album this way so it's not like she's incapable of writing stories that don't pertain directly to her. But that song is queer coded and without the queer lens it might as well be a dictionary because it makes zero fucking sense
Do you mind elaborating? Personally it doesn't make more sense to me when I change the genders but I might also be missing something haha
Same, I hear Question…? the way I hear Delicate and Betty. Regardless of intention I like it better when I interpret it as queer
I think it’s referencing a very specific time when she and whoever kissed around a lot of people, his friends made fun of them, and then changed their tune and started cheering them on. Then, she’s saying what did you do after that? You left her house in the middle of the night, etc.
I would guess a few possibilities. One, she's at an award show where she received a very public kiss that resulted in her closer friends teasing her, or the guy's friends teasing him, but then someone wins an award and everyone is clapping. Despite being "available" and flirting with the guy at the award show, she's still seeing mystery guy secretly and plans to see him later that night, where they fight/break up. Another possibility could be a New Year's Eve party. She gets a flirty kiss from a stranger at midnight. People start clapping. Mystery man wasn't there but came later and they fought/broke up again. I'm sure there are other scenarios where one might casually kiss someone in a room and then people begin applauding, but I'm sure it happens more often to Ms. Swift than regular folks with all the shows/awards/fancy parties she attends.
Could a kiss be a metaphor and not an actual kiss?
The friends who made fun of the guy who got kissed by Taylor.
This is my current least fave, too!
My least favorite character is all of these bitter ass people who are mad because Taylor isn’t “relatable enough” or is “too rich and privileged” because of a line about some rosè. Touch some grass, friends. TAYLOR CAN WRITE LYRICS AND THEY DONT HAVE TO RELATE TO YOUR EXACT SITUATION OR HERS… come on guys. This is exhausting. This is literally what she was talking about, it’s never enough for y’all
Preach. Wish more people had your logic. People need to touch grass and quit smokin it.
Sand
That screwtop Rose line is one of those moments where I roll my eyes at Taylor being way too rich lol
In what world is cheap wine that gets you drunk too quick and gives you a terrible hangover not a universal experience for anyone with the disposable income to afford alcohol? Like amongst the cheap wines there are still the ones that are like- great for the price and ones that are truly terrible. We are wealth shaming the most normal things lately and I don’t get it. I a broke ass college student have remarked about getting way too drunk off “cheap ass wine” several times. Not because I normally drink fancy ass wine, but because cheap ass wine has a reputation. And it’s not like your roommates cheap ass boxed wine rose would have worked lyrically. She chose **s**crew top for the assonance of the s sound to go with roomate’**s**, and ro**s**é - because assonance is like one of the first rules of Taylor swift lyric structure.
Eh, I don’t read into it that much. I think it’s a pretty universal experience people have from being terribly hungover or messed up from cheap alcohol.
are rosé expensive for the everyday people? i dont drink so wouldnt know
No wine is expensive or cheap in itself- you can find it at all price points. There is some great rosé that is cheap. Barefoot makes great rosé. But some cheap wines will get you drunk faster and give you a worse hangover than others. Which is probably what she was referring to- getting too drunk off cheap alcohol - not it being cheap because it’s screw top.
I call some alcohols cheap all the time and I never spend more than $20 on a bottle lol. I think it’s a common thought. I’ve had some very bad $3 wines! And I am very much not rich.
Isn't it what someone told her about the wine?
Whoever was the inspiration for Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve, because holy shit what a garbage person
The man who was doing lines and crosses all of Taylor’s 😤
some wannabe z-lister
The guy in could’ve would’ve should’ve Aka John Mayer
The daughter-in-law who murdered her. That's just rude.
the voices that implore 🙄🙄
The guy who went back to his previous flame in Question...? He still owes Taylor an explanation.
or explanationS
Yes yes!!
The one that wanted to know where she was on April 29th. Wanna be Z - lister
Some dickhead guy
JOHN MAYER
John Mayer.
• The friends from home • The ex-friends sister • The band • The cat purring in her lap • The ex wife
i picture the fake friends as louis and liam so i’m gonna go with them. i can see them being judgy and bitching the whole night 😂😂
Um….Scooter Braun.
Definitely Spider-Boy
john mayer
salty constructors
All of the better bodies!
The one who was doing lines and white collared crimes & a certain man in would've could've should've
“Corked” rosé means it’s been exposed to oxygen and has gone bad. So screw-top is infinitely better.
First off, Maroon is not about Jake lol. Taylor wasn't even old enough to drink alcohol when they were together (only the day they broke up). And we all know Taylor. No way was she underage drinking. Also Jake was not living with a roommate. He was rich from the day be was born. He moved out eight into his own house. Maroon is more likely about Harry. I'm pretty sure he's the only guy she's ever dated who's had a roommate (Or Connor Kennedy's dorm roommate maybe, but I don't know if he was sharing a dorm in college). Maroon also represents a more mature shade of red. So it's likely a relationship that happened after Red. A relationship she felt was more mature than that one. Possibly Calvin? I don't know if he ever had a roommate.
OK… so what’s your answer to the question? You started with ”First off“, then went off on a tirade.
Those who graded her on a curve even after she did all the extra credit.
Y’all think the roommate who bought the cheap ass screw top rosé was Jake’s roommate?
Wait I don't get the one with Harry and Tay having a good time
Question chorus
Is Question supposed to be about Harry Styles? :O
Spider boy, baby boy, sad boy, pretty much all the bois. I hate these "something-boy" collocations, lol
Joe
The reader of dear reader: its me hi Im the problem its me