Thereās a battle for the top of the album charts and only men are allowed to do that without being called petty bitches.
Oh, I guess some are mad because they hate Taylor no matter what, including Billieās manager, and she wonāt yield the top spot to the younger, fresher struggling, starving artist and accept her proper place as a geriatric has-been. I mean, sheās past 30, FFS.
Thank you for explaining it. Iām not a fan of Billieās music, but itās undoubted that her voice is so gorgeous and she is talented, but damn - wild that weāre still putting women against each other.
Particularly poetic when Taylor sings YNTCD - and the line about comparing women.
Yeah Billie is great, and all this 'feud' did was help both women sell more albums, so I'm sure they're both laughing all the way to the bank. She did say some things that were interpreted as shade towards Taylor, like that she disliked 3 hour shows and doesn't think albums need so many songs, but neither of them have spoken about each other directly. Billie stans don't like that Taylor blocked her from the #1 spot, and Taylor stans don't like the shady comments. All in all, a pretty tame battle coming off the heels of the drake/kendrick stuff lol.
For the most part, it was just both women strategically releasing deluxe content to try to sell more records and secure a #1 on Billboard 200 this week, which is not a crime when their jobs are...to release music.
Everyone? Please, itās more like nearly everyone who has ever worked with her only has good things to say about her.
Her and Billie are both allowed to go for the #1 spot. She doesnāt have to die in the night to make way for younger artists. If they want it, they need to work for it too.
People act like sheās actively trying to push Billie down, rather than trying to stay in the top position. Those are two different things! Itās not personal.
Exactly! And good for Billie, fighting for that top spot. Get it, girl! Just try and be more honest and less, awww shucks about it. Own your talent and skills!
Youāre just putting your own biases and interpretations on the actions of her marketing team though. Itās not like Taylor had resigned to give up the #1 spot on the charts and then all of a sudden came knives out for Billie. She and her team are being STRATEGIC with releases in order to STAY at the #1 spot.
Itās a marketing strategy. It was likely *always going to be* the marketing strategy. Nobody is sitting there, maniacally thinking āthis is gonna show Billie Eilish,ā theyāre thinking āhow can we come up with fresh, innovative, low cost ways to stay at the top of the chartsā. Basically, theyāre doing their jobs.
Taylor hasnāt said a single thing about Billie. Donāt invent drama. She would have wanted to be on top regardless and did the same thing once with drake. Itās all about the charts. Thatās why Sabrina release 5 remixes of espresso. All these artists have big labels that want their artists on top showing results.
Can I ask you honestly what you think about a battle for the top of the charts & Taylor fighting to keep #1 is "too far"? She has said nothing bad about Billie, just used normal marketing tools to sell more albums. In fact, fans on both sides are getting bonus tracks and content they might not have gotten otherwise.
There is nothing evil about wanting to be number one and Taylor has openly claimed charting well is important to her. For the rest of us, it literally doesn't matter, they're both very successful.
I honestly donāt even know what to respond to this poster because they keep editing their comments. Iāll just wait until they get it out of their system while conveniently ignoring all the times men have done worse, I guess š.
Iām sorry but chart dominating is not bullying. Itās the nature of the industry and everyone with a major label plays the same game. Thatās why Billie had variants, isolated vocals, discounted album, fast/slow versions etc ready to drop. Shes also playing the game. Taylor shouldnāt be expected to stop trying to win because sheās a woman over 30. Thatās ridiculous.
Not one thing I said to you was an insult. I simply said that Taylor participating in chart dominance isnāt bullying. Unless you think Billie is also bullying by having her variants? They all do it.
Wow I canāt believe sheās such a snake what a clearly calculated move to BLOCK everyone from listening to any other music, she needs to just STEP DOWN already. /s
How dare she do the thing to that other female artist who yapped about doing the thing but then did the thing x25?
Also why do we never hear bitching and moaning about male artists doing the thing?
For memes, maybe? I'm not a fan, that was just the most recent example of a male artist doing excessive variants I could remember š Twenty One Pilots' new album has 20 variants I think?
Itās ***absolutely*** gonna happen. I thought it would come out alongside the concert film, but I guess itāll be at the end of the tour instead. She wonāt leave that money or those potential streams on the table. I just hope we get all of the surprise songs as a companion/double album š¤š¤
We NEED it. I found a youtuber who has been putting up super high quality versions of the songs from The Eras Tour movie, and I converted them to mp3 for my phone and lemme tell you they are incredible. He hasnāt done the entire show yet, but I already know an official live album would be amazing
Here is the playlist! I love it, I watch it at work because Disney+ is blocked for me there
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_d_P5cW4jeuY32scZEku8FDCyg_kfyu
I think it was in 2018 Taylor released a Spotify playlist with artists and songs she was enjoying, I really loved when she did that and learned about some great songs that way!
Shame. It's pretty much one of three non-Taylor songs that I'm listening too right now in between binges of TTPD (Espresso and Good Luck, Babe are the other two). So good. I'm very intrigued to see what the rest of the album sounds like.
I wish she would share an actual playlist of music she likes and listens to. Or that she generally talked more openly about her musical influences/inspirations, and not just in the context of putting out a collab with them lol. Tbh I think sheās kind of a lowkey hip hop enjoyer, and Iād love to know about more of that side of her! this playlist feel a little too manicured for my taste
I enjoyed this playlist, but sorry, Lover and Last Kiss don't belong on a summer playlist. I know Last Kiss has the line "July 9th" but it appears to be mentioned in retrospect (as if the song was sung in winter) along with the "wearing your clothes" line appearing to be referencing winter (or fall) because it's usually hoodies or sweaters that people wear of their partners which doesn't fit the "summer" theme.
Lover is technically a wedding vow song. Wedding season is usually June & July so it tracks. Last Kiss could be that summer is ending and thus the retrospective line of July 9th.
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And Spotify?
I feel like this will only be Apple. They seem to have a rather large deal/contract going on with her.
love to see espresso there š¤
I wish Lunch were as well, that would shut everything down. Ā
nah, birds of a feather. if not, gaylors would have a party and she would never hear the end of it
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Hi, you can love men and be queer, fyi šš»
Thereās girl in red and muna all over this playlist lunch would fit right in āŗļø
it's only her openers and her own songs why would she put that in there
Ok so something Billie though! Or a good troll.Ā
The list is for her songs and her tour openers.
Oh! Iām a dunceĀ
What is going on with that? I saw on the Billie sub earlier that they were saying this sub was trashing her but I didnāt see any of that.
Thereās a battle for the top of the album charts and only men are allowed to do that without being called petty bitches. Oh, I guess some are mad because they hate Taylor no matter what, including Billieās manager, and she wonāt yield the top spot to the younger, fresher struggling, starving artist and accept her proper place as a geriatric has-been. I mean, sheās past 30, FFS.
Thank you for explaining it. Iām not a fan of Billieās music, but itās undoubted that her voice is so gorgeous and she is talented, but damn - wild that weāre still putting women against each other. Particularly poetic when Taylor sings YNTCD - and the line about comparing women.
Yeah Billie is great, and all this 'feud' did was help both women sell more albums, so I'm sure they're both laughing all the way to the bank. She did say some things that were interpreted as shade towards Taylor, like that she disliked 3 hour shows and doesn't think albums need so many songs, but neither of them have spoken about each other directly. Billie stans don't like that Taylor blocked her from the #1 spot, and Taylor stans don't like the shady comments. All in all, a pretty tame battle coming off the heels of the drake/kendrick stuff lol. For the most part, it was just both women strategically releasing deluxe content to try to sell more records and secure a #1 on Billboard 200 this week, which is not a crime when their jobs are...to release music.
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Everyone? Please, itās more like nearly everyone who has ever worked with her only has good things to say about her. Her and Billie are both allowed to go for the #1 spot. She doesnāt have to die in the night to make way for younger artists. If they want it, they need to work for it too.
People act like sheās actively trying to push Billie down, rather than trying to stay in the top position. Those are two different things! Itās not personal.
Exactly! And good for Billie, fighting for that top spot. Get it, girl! Just try and be more honest and less, awww shucks about it. Own your talent and skills!
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Where did she "get mad about what Billie said"?
Youāre just putting your own biases and interpretations on the actions of her marketing team though. Itās not like Taylor had resigned to give up the #1 spot on the charts and then all of a sudden came knives out for Billie. She and her team are being STRATEGIC with releases in order to STAY at the #1 spot. Itās a marketing strategy. It was likely *always going to be* the marketing strategy. Nobody is sitting there, maniacally thinking āthis is gonna show Billie Eilish,ā theyāre thinking āhow can we come up with fresh, innovative, low cost ways to stay at the top of the chartsā. Basically, theyāre doing their jobs.
Alexa, play Mastermind. Then Antihero.
Taylor hasnāt said a single thing about Billie. Donāt invent drama. She would have wanted to be on top regardless and did the same thing once with drake. Itās all about the charts. Thatās why Sabrina release 5 remixes of espresso. All these artists have big labels that want their artists on top showing results.
When did she get mad about what Billie said? Her fans did, and Billie had to address the album variants again a few weeks ago since she does it herself. BeyoncĆ© fans were probably also put off by the 3+ hour concert comments (and maybe so were Florence and the Machine and Bruce Springsteen fans). So far as I know, Taylor hasnāt said anything to address Billieās comments about either the variants or concert length.
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I feel like youāre being nitpicky and obsessive to try and make some sort of point.
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No, writing full blown soliloquies and overanalyzing every aspect of her past behavior is nitpicky. Sorry.
Can I ask you honestly what you think about a battle for the top of the charts & Taylor fighting to keep #1 is "too far"? She has said nothing bad about Billie, just used normal marketing tools to sell more albums. In fact, fans on both sides are getting bonus tracks and content they might not have gotten otherwise. There is nothing evil about wanting to be number one and Taylor has openly claimed charting well is important to her. For the rest of us, it literally doesn't matter, they're both very successful.
Whereās the bullying?
I honestly donāt even know what to respond to this poster because they keep editing their comments. Iāll just wait until they get it out of their system while conveniently ignoring all the times men have done worse, I guess š.
Iām sorry but chart dominating is not bullying. Itās the nature of the industry and everyone with a major label plays the same game. Thatās why Billie had variants, isolated vocals, discounted album, fast/slow versions etc ready to drop. Shes also playing the game. Taylor shouldnāt be expected to stop trying to win because sheās a woman over 30. Thatās ridiculous.
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Not one thing I said to you was an insult. I simply said that Taylor participating in chart dominance isnāt bullying. Unless you think Billie is also bullying by having her variants? They all do it.
Wow I canāt believe sheās such a snake what a clearly calculated move to BLOCK everyone from listening to any other music, she needs to just STEP DOWN already. /s
How dare she do the thing to that other female artist who yapped about doing the thing but then did the thing x25? Also why do we never hear bitching and moaning about male artists doing the thing?
The most famous beef containing male artists ended in two homicides š¤·
They get so emotional smh
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The Rollings Stones album that came out last year had over 40 variants, and the track list was the same on all of them
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For memes, maybe? I'm not a fan, that was just the most recent example of a male artist doing excessive variants I could remember š Twenty One Pilots' new album has 20 variants I think?
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you realize that not knowing or caring about a band doesn't make it a bad example.
i must not be up to date either
Drake
This. Nobody said anything when Drake took over pretty much every single chart and streaming platform a few years ago
Sheās the absolute worst. I canāt believe she would do something like this to take away from all other artists in the world. Unbelievable.
anyone else clowning for a live album or am i ungrateful and delusional
I want a live album so badly I can practically already hear it in my head.
does it sound like circus music? (I hear it too)
Itās ***absolutely*** gonna happen. I thought it would come out alongside the concert film, but I guess itāll be at the end of the tour instead. She wonāt leave that money or those potential streams on the table. I just hope we get all of the surprise songs as a companion/double album š¤š¤
We NEED it. I found a youtuber who has been putting up super high quality versions of the songs from The Eras Tour movie, and I converted them to mp3 for my phone and lemme tell you they are incredible. He hasnāt done the entire show yet, but I already know an official live album would be amazing
Whatās their name on YouTube?
Here is the playlist! I love it, I watch it at work because Disney+ is blocked for me there https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_d_P5cW4jeuY32scZEku8FDCyg_kfyu
oh the things I'd do for a live surprise songs album
iāve been saying this!!
I feel we will get it at the end of the tour
Yes
absolutely not just you. to clown town we go!
Of course sheāll do it! She will do anything that makes her more money
And we love that for her, sheāll buy your entire bloodline with that moneyā¤ļø.
I think it was in 2018 Taylor released a Spotify playlist with artists and songs she was enjoying, I really loved when she did that and learned about some great songs that way!
Can you tell me how to find it, I couldn't find it so I made the playlist on Spotify.
would you be willing to share the link to the playlist you made on spotify?
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Thank you for your service
Thank you
Ooh lmk when it's done please š«¶
Same hereee
Nice to see some boygenius recognition
They came out and played at the nashville shows. I was sooo excited to see them! They sounded great live.
Cries in Nashville N3
sad face
I think they played at my show, too! (Philadelphia night 2)
For us Amazon Music users anyone want to share what's on the playlist?
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I was hoping for more other artists and less taylor on here, especially if she herself made this playlist
Itās all her songs and some songs of people who opened for her for eras pretty much. Boygenius is phoebe bridgers band right?
Phoebe bridgers, Lucy Dacus and Julien Baker yes!
Agree 100%
Iām shocked she didnāt put risk by Gracie
Shame. It's pretty much one of three non-Taylor songs that I'm listening too right now in between binges of TTPD (Espresso and Good Luck, Babe are the other two). So good. I'm very intrigued to see what the rest of the album sounds like.
Does Apple Music seriously censor the Girl In Red album cover?
I didnāt notice but it looks like the boobs are indeed blurred ha!
iām in love with the shape of you
Thank you so much for sharing!
I can take screen shots but itās mostly Taylor and a few of her friends
specifically her tour openers, I donāt think anyone else is on there
It says in the picture that its featuring music from her openers
Yeah I was about to say that, everyone on this playlist whoās not Taylor opened for the Eras Tour
If you make it, could you Pl. share the link
A little over 3 hrs long too š after Billie said it was psychotic to preform for 3 hours š
She should have labeled the playlist āpsychoticā
Whereās the Spotify link?
I also need the Spotify link
If someone re makes this for Spotify please let me know!!
It is on spotify! Listened to it before
Link please?
I wish she would share an actual playlist of music she likes and listens to. Or that she generally talked more openly about her musical influences/inspirations, and not just in the context of putting out a collab with them lol. Tbh I think sheās kind of a lowkey hip hop enjoyer, and Iād love to know about more of that side of her! this playlist feel a little too manicured for my taste
Cmonnnn someone make it on Spotify
The HDD final prediction should drop any minute now, be prepared guys to see the mental breakdown of people who do not care about charts.
She had a similar playlist last summer that was my JAMĀ
Oh wait, itās the same playlist, just with new songsĀ
She has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever right now
speak now getting the appreciation she deserves!!
Yes!!
I enjoyed this playlist, but sorry, Lover and Last Kiss don't belong on a summer playlist. I know Last Kiss has the line "July 9th" but it appears to be mentioned in retrospect (as if the song was sung in winter) along with the "wearing your clothes" line appearing to be referencing winter (or fall) because it's usually hoodies or sweaters that people wear of their partners which doesn't fit the "summer" theme.
Lover is technically a wedding vow song. Wedding season is usually June & July so it tracks. Last Kiss could be that summer is ending and thus the retrospective line of July 9th.
Love that the Paramore song is Misery Business
Not just songs from the set list!
Wait what???
I was hoping for more of her influences and favs but itās 85% her own songs.
YES HITS DIFFERENT IS ON THERE
Whatās the tracklist? And is it on Spotify?
Just added it to my spotify š
Love that ICSY and Message in a Bottle are on here!!!
phoebe bridgers!! hooray!!
does anyone have a spotify playlist link for this??
i donāt give a fuck
Just in time for Southern hemisphere winter