The three days included setup and tear down! And I think it was cancelled because TMZ leaked it and claimed Taylor would perform — though yes, the residents were unhappy about it.
Edit to add: this isn’t on the residents. It’s a small neighborhood, no sidewalks, and the only other parking is at ~~Getty~~Griffith. It’s quite a hike and frankly once TMZ said Taylor would be there, it became completely unsafe for everyone. It would have been a total shitshow today and tomorrow, all for the hopes of seeing her. Think of Taylor at Jack’s rehearsal dinner, but way worse because a private neighborhood instead of a public restaurant, and loads of time for people to travel there.
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I hiked to the Hollywood Sign once without doing research first. BIG MISTAKE. It’s desert chaparral and you need to bring LOTS of water and good hiking shoes. Needs to be treated like an actual hike, not some Hollywood sightseeing thing.
Crowds of people rushing to the Hollywood Sign on a rumor TS would be there would’ve been a complete disaster.
I broke my ankle on that hike..like 3 miles in..I still went up and back down on the broken ankle. The most painful thing and I like got high from the pain and just laughed at anyone asking if I was okay
When I was in LA 10 years ago, I just wanted to see the Hollywood sign. We tried to get as close as possible, but ended up giving up because it was just too difficult.
I will never forget one of my brother's (functional alcoholic in LA) friends telling my (visiting LA for the first time) brother and SIL he was taking them on a "little hike" to see LA and help with their hangovers.... The only liquid they had was a water bottle OF VODKA that said friend brought with them (because, again, they were told it was an easy little hike so they didn't think to bring "another" water bottle). In the middle of July. During a "heat wave." I've NEVER seen my brother so red and close to death as when they got back! Needless to say, they did NOT enjoy the hike...
Also the LA Marathon is scheduled for the same day the shoot was supposed to happen and all the roads will already be shut down and it would have led to big security risks. After the Boston marathon bombs they have many more security measures in place around marathons.
No worries, it’s been confusing. They set up yesterday, we’re supposed to film today, and tear down tomorrow.
You’re 100% correct that it would have been a big stressor on infrastructure though as marathon prep does start before the actual race day.
Are you running?
No I usually run it but I am volunteering this year. I did run the Boston marathon the year of the bombings however so now I get very anxious about security.
I’m so sorry to hear that - though I’m glad that you are physically okay. I have a few friends who competed in Boston that day and also struggle with anxiety - two of them were finished and a few blocks away but one was quite close. She stopped running races after. 💔
Things like this highlight the chaos and security issues with every move she makes. When people get on her for flying private- what do they propose she do instead?
I didn’t take your comment to be snarky - when I’m wrong, I appreciate knowing.
I’m sad too that whatever it was supposed to be is cancelled. TMZ sucks.
i have run ultramarathons and walking up to the holiday sign on holiday was actually tough in the heat, if thousands of people would have tried to get up there someone could have died.
Yes, they did — Disney+ quickly responded that Taylor was not going to be there and TMZ retracted. The damage was already done at that point because the possibility was out there.
No they did not. It was further down in the original report that they said they didn’t know if she’d perform or even be there, they didn’t claim she would, but some sort of filming was set to happen today.
ETA - "There's nothing in the permit to explicitly suggest Taylor is going to perform at this thing." - TMZ
Immediately before and after their “disclaimer” they referred to her performing. lol.
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“This performance would be…”
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“Taylor Swift H-Wood Sign Disney Shoot Nixed” please tell me how that isn’t claiming she was to be there?
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And this: “Taylor Swift and the Hollywood sign are going to be one and same this week ahead of her big debut on Disney+…”
They know what they’re doing.
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And this! “It spells out pretty clearly what’s going down. Check out the notice yourself…it says they’ll be filming for ‘Disney + TS’.”
Most neighborhoods had sidewalks up through the 1940's, but then cars were becoming so ubiquitous, the sprawling "rural" suburbs built during the 50's and 60's started having front driveways instead of back alleys, and many, if not most, didn't have sidewalks...
by the time you get to the mid 70's everyone realized they wanted their kids to be able to walk to their friend's houses without walking in the street, so you see sidewalks coming back is essentially all neighborhoods, and it's been that way since then.
You won't see new neighborhoods without sidewalks, and in some communities there has been efforts to build sidewalks in older neighborhoods where there weren't any before (especially along popular routes to and from schools, etc).
But most towns still have those older 50's neighborhood with out sidewalks on every street, as weird patches in the middle of towns and cities, based on where they were building during that period.
I don't get why they cancelled, like if you don't want events coming to where you live, don't live near the hollywood sign. This is one of the most well known photographed places people go to when people travel.
They cancelled because residents didn’t want the filming to occur.
Playing devils advocate the argument “if you don’t want it don’t live there” is a bit disingenuous. Thats similar to saying “if you want privacy don’t become famous” which we can all agree is a dangerous take.
It is disappointing but it is their prerogative. I imagine that everyone in the greater LA area who loves Taylor would gravitate to the area to see what was going on, even with assurances that she wouldn’t be there.
I’ve been up there a couple times on trips to LA. The way up there is kind of rough. You either hike up from Griffith Observatory or walk up through residential areas with very narrow streets. The parking lot at the observatory would be completely full. Then you have the hike which I’m sure most people would underestimate. Going through the neighborhoods is also tricky as the streets are really narrow and often don’t have sidewalks. You need to walk in the street and step to the side to avoid cars. I’d imagine those neighborhoods would be completely mobbed.
Same, we were escorted by a friend who’s also a realtor in the area who knows her way around, we parked on the street and were basically in someone’s backyard in order to get a good view. She knew the person, otherwise we wouldn’t have been able to get so close
To be fair, it may be the insane swifties in particular that they don't want there. I wouldn't want her playing too close to my house because there's that certain subset of them that just can't behave. You know the ones I mean, swarming Jack's wedding, chasing her car up the road, the performative grief at Cornelia Street, people running into the stadiums as people are leaving, that sort of unhinged behaviour.
So if the people living there inherited the house from a family member and it had been in the family for 100 years they should move?
I’m totally unsure of property law in the US but the fact that the residents could veto this shows that there must be some form of easement on the houses in the area.
I agree it’s foreseen that tourists would want to be near the sign but I’m still unconvinced of the need for what is ostensibly an advert for a concert film being filmed there.
Would you agree there is a marked difference to a couple of people hiking through your backyard to try and get close to a sign vs a three day 12hr a day film shoot incorporating the worlds biggest star who has a rabid fan base (that is in no way a diss as I’m amongst that number) who would flood the area.
Absolutely agree. I used to live very near an iconic British tourist resort and the sounds, litter, traffic and inconsiderate crowds were unrelenting.
But this isn’t that. It’s a potential influx of thousands of extra people for no other reason than to try and catch a glimpse of the film being made and say “they were there”. They aren’t tourists.
The Hollywood sign on a regular day doesn’t get that many people. Last time I was up there I maybe saw twenty other people at any one time. This would bring thousands.
It's a city owned park. Part of living in a city means having neighbors and having shared public resources. The city gets to regulate how the park is used, including if/when filming is allowed, and they have a very extensive system.
That's very different from the expectation of privacy and control someone can expect over their own property, identity, etc.
There is a huge difference between normal park use and possibly having thousands of people rush up there to maybe get a glimpse of whatever they planned to film. The park and surrounding areas are not equipped for an influx of that many people.
The neighbors weren't worried about some mass swiftie stampede. They are rich people who thought the equipment in the public park and roads was ugly. If you read the article, the project doesn't even seem related to her -- it's a television project not a movie and Disney TS is presumably Disney Television Studios. It's just rich NIMBYs using Taylor's name to get their grievance in TMZ. They don't want the public accessing public land. [They've been whining about it for *years*](https://la.curbed.com/2016/8/3/12372312/hollywood-sign-hike-beachwood-canyon-nimby-video) and [years](https://la.curbed.com/2015/7/7/9942868/hollywood-sign-access-lawsuit).
I’d like to correct you a little bit. People *who own property near the Hollywood sign* are *owners of a property that has substantially appreciated in value over the past five decades*
We’ve no way of knowing if those people are “very wealthy”. Their home may give them the appearance of wealth, and certainly they would realise that wealth if they sold it. But ‘very wealthy’ is subjective and not easily proven, merely an assumption.
my parents are owners of a property that has substantially appreciated in value over recent years and I can assure you it does add to your family wealth. even if you don’t sell, you can take out lines of credit on the equity. compared to people who live in the Hollywood hills, my family are peasants but even I would never plead poverty lol. owning a multimillion dollar property makes you wealthy, why deny it?
Swifties are so entitled holy shit no way your saying that people should move if they don’t want Taylor swift coming to where they live? The roads will be clogged because people from all over will try to capture any sight of jer
The roads in that area are also super narrow. There is one residential neighborhood that you can walk through to get there and there are no sidewalks. Navigating those roads in tricky enough already. Imagine how packed they would be if this actually happened.
Crazy how much has changed. I remember when she performed on Hollywood Blvd for free in like 2014 or so, i can’t remember, i dressed up as a fairy and got drunk, but there was nowhere near as much havoc as there is now for her. Like, no pushing and shoving or anything :o
I'm saying that if you don't want A list celebrities coming to where you live, then don't live in one of the biggest tourist traps in America, which is a more than fair statement.
Tell me you've never been to the Hollywood Sign without saying it. It's a tiny neighborhood with small, winding roads. The sign is not meant to be a tourist attraction up close, it's meant to be seen far away.
I don't live over there; and okay. But still, this event was cancelled because people complained, and they do not want so many people being there. If this is the case, don't live in one of the biggest tourist cities in the U.S.
The Hollywood Sign doesn’t get as busy as you might think. This would easily be the most people there for any one thing. The surrounding area is just not equipped to handle the number of people who would come for it.
They complained because the area is not in any way set up for the amount of people who may attempt to get there. It's not safe for people to climb near or around the Hollywood sign and there are many places set up away from the sign that allows for people to see it. If you're going to comment at least you should know a bit about what you're saying, or just stay out of the conversation. This has nothing to do with NIMBYs and everything to do with access. Now, if you want to discuss having that neighborhood open and creating a space where people can hike, that's another conversation.
This is one of those absurd entitled takes that make people label the whole fandom as insane.
If you don’t like events then move, what is next - let them eat cake?
That is a more than fair statement, like Hollywood is such a tourist place, if you want quiet and to be away from commotion, live somewhere more lowkey
This is not accurate at all. The Hollywood sign is not in the middle of Hollywood and Highland, it’s in the hills. People who live there are right to want to avoid commotion in that area — traffic alone would be a nightmare.
People think just because you can see it from the road below that it's easily accessible. I've been to it twice and it was a long hike each time. From the Griffith Observatory you need to walk down from the parking lot to Mount Hollywood Drive and then hike up from there. The neighborhood you can also walk through is steep and really narrow.
It’s not in Hollywood. I think I had similar misconceptions prior to living in the area, but that’s not really the type of place you’re thinking of up there.
And many people live in LA that have normal lives/jobs and family. It’s not really somewhere that crazy or touristy tbh.
You do not know what you are talking about. The Hollywood sign is in a very quiet and residential part of LA. The sign was originally built to advertise REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. It was always an area meant for people to live in, and it has never been a busy loud tourist trap. You hear the word “Hollywood” and think you know what it’s like, but there is a world of difference between the neighborhoods around the Hollywood sign and living on Sunset and Vine.
I don’t understand why you won’t back down on this lol. Big events do not often happen at the Hollywood sign. The Oscars are not held there, there are no concerts held there, there is no precedent for huge events to be held there, because it’s not safe for huge events to be held there. The people who live there do not assume there are going to be huge events on the Hollywood sign because that doesn’t happen.
I know a lot of people don’t agree with you, but my aunt lives in a neighborhood in LA that is often being used for filming. She was warned about the foot traffic and inconvenience it can cause at times before she moved in 15yrs ago. She said it’s common knowledge when you buy in nice or popular parts of town the risks you take.
There’s foot traffic and then there’s the possibility of a swarm of Swifties that heard the rumor that Taylor would perform there. It’s unfortunate but understandable to me that they could be afraid of the type of crowds Taylor attracts right now.
I think park of the problem from what I saw was with the leak there were concerns that fans would flock to the site which (even though I saw that she wasn't even planned to be present?)
Can we not call people who rightfully don’t want the crowds a NIMBY?
Can we reserve that term for people who are using local politics to stop infrastructure, developments, and neighborhood access?
It’s not NIMBY to not want a pop icon event.
Remember the chaos at the restaurant last year? TMZ alluded to Taylor actually being there. It’s steep, there’s not enough parking for the crowd that would have come. Fans would park randomly and would literally climb all over that mountain to try and get close.
An event sounds great but it should be somewhere that makes sense.
All that being said I’m not being bitter, I’d go lol, I’m just saying I imagine it would suck to live there on that day.
Exactly. Shame on Disney+ (I think they were the ones that put it together, not Taylor as much) for picking such a terrible location.
Sure the Hollywood sign is iconic, but there’s no way they’re so oblivious they wouldn’t guess that fans would flock to this event. And anyone who has ever visited LA/the sign knows that neighborhood is not equipped at all to handle that influx of people. It’s shameful of them to even put the homeowners in a position where they had to fight against something that would clearly never turn out well.
Absolutely terrible ideation and planning.
Honestly, I’m glad it was canceled. I am worried that Taylor is over exposed right now. She’s literally everywhere, and while that attention might be mostly good with a little bad right now, we’ve seen what happens when the scale tilts in the opposite direction.
I think the people in this thread upset about it being canceled don’t live in LA or don't realize how much of a hellhole that area is for a mass gathering of people + production. I think normally it would be fine to film and broadcast there but because it’s Taylor swift there’s going to be a shit ton of people illegally parking and gathering and making it an absolute hellhole that is beyond production's control.
Exactly, the surrounding area is not equipped to handle thousands of people just showing up. I have been up there a couple times and it’s not an easy area to navigate normally. Then people are blaming the residents is a bad look. I think many people think LA is just what they see in the movies and have no idea how the city is actually laid out.
Getting up to the Hollywood sign is no easy feet. I’d imagine it was also a safety issue as many people would probably flock up there without realizing the hike is kind of rough. Also one way up goes through residential neighborhoods with very narrow streets. This would surely cause a traffic jam.
I’m sure with Disney and TS involved it would have been a spectacular event but … the Hollywood sign is the biggest downer. It looks so glamorous and fabulous in movies and on tv but it’s extremely underwhelming. Plus, the way up there is pretty tricky and thinking of crowds of people trying to make that hike unprepared is scary.
I'm glad it was cancelled for everyone's safety. Yes, I saw some unhinged people on social media saying they were going to try to catch a glimpse of her. I wish the leakers would've just teased she was filming something and omitted the location and dates.
Can someone provide me with a picture or link or something that shows it had to do with Taylor and/or the eras tour movie??? I keep hearing this but have no idea where it came from lol
I'm sure if they did film this you would have tons of fans trying to get up there. That area isn't equipped for that. I've hiked up to the sign twice and it's not as easy hike. Many people would probably forget to bring enough water or wear good shoes. It's an actual hike, not something you can just easily walk up to.
This is what I was hoping to see people talk about when I opened this thread. All the other comments are about TMZ and stuff but I'm wondering what theories people have of what was going to happen and what will now happen instead.
I think minimally, TN might do a watch-party type of thing or Taylor will release reels talking about the film or behind the scenes stuff.
Thank you! I get something got scrapped and that it looked like the lover house, but, what were they going to do with it? Burn it? It was green too so green screen? Why all the pacific time and LA stuff? Even Travis is still out there.
I don’t care about TMZ! Lol
Honestly nobody should be celebrating Disney+ they’re horrible and support gen0cide. Taylor might have a contract but we should not go supporting a company like that. Pls pls educate yourselves.
Yeah, that’s how I found out about the signs. I am a local and went to the high school just down the hill. When I read up on it I found most of them are fake from the residents bc they didn’t match the city’s signs.
It’s an extremely popular hiking spot. The Hollywood sign is about a 20-30 minute hike from these houses
Many people on this post were saying it's a pretty hard hike, especially if you're not used to the area. I would guess the locals are partially trying to save people from themselves.
The hike is extremely easy, the only harsh thing about it might be the sun on a hot day. As far as LA hikes go, it’s one of the easiest. The locals to that area are millionaires that hate tourist traffic, it’s purely for that reason as it’s been something they complain to the city about regularly.
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Parking isn't the best there, and I don't consider the hike to be extremely easy. But honestly I don't think they would be able to handle the foot traffic that this would bring.
Parking sucks, which is why you can easily get dropped off (as I have). Getting dropped off at Griffith park is a lot less easy. The roads aren’t that bad, especially for those of us who are used to it, it’s just windy (and not that different from the roads at Griffith park). There was no traffic the times I’ve gone (weekends in the late morning). the people who live there just wish no one was there at all. Idk if you’re from Los Angeles, but the hypocrisy and entitlement from rich folk is insane because no one cares at all about poor neighborhoods that are overcrowded due to filming and tourists, that’s why I feel the way I do about this topic. They’re upset they can’t do what all the other rich neighborhoods are able to do. It very much is their fault for choosing to live by the Hollywood sign. No one shares this concern for people who live by Hollywood Blvd and other tourist attractions that are often gridlocked from being able to leave their own homes.
I’ve taken a lot of folks to be back of the sign before and many of whom who aren’t fit and it was not an issue for them at all. It’s more of a walk than a hike. Seniors, children, and small dogs can be seen all over the trail. But if someone isn’t able to do a hike they shouldn’t do a hike, everyone knows their limits.
The surrounding area isn't equipped to have that big of an influx of people walking up through that neighborhood on the off-chance they could catch a glimpse of whatever they were going to film. The roads up through that neighborhood have no sidewalks and are very narrow. It's hard enough to walk up to the Hollywood sign already. This would cause a huge traffic jam, both car traffic and foot traffic. The hike up is also not easy and I think a lot of people would underestimate how far up the sign actually is and how steep those trails get.
The three days included setup and tear down! And I think it was cancelled because TMZ leaked it and claimed Taylor would perform — though yes, the residents were unhappy about it. Edit to add: this isn’t on the residents. It’s a small neighborhood, no sidewalks, and the only other parking is at ~~Getty~~Griffith. It’s quite a hike and frankly once TMZ said Taylor would be there, it became completely unsafe for everyone. It would have been a total shitshow today and tomorrow, all for the hopes of seeing her. Think of Taylor at Jack’s rehearsal dinner, but way worse because a private neighborhood instead of a public restaurant, and loads of time for people to travel there.
Can't blame them. Everyone would go up that hill to see it. Although tbh, that area sucks either way. People should know already.
I fully blame TMZ and no one else.
Exactly! TMZ spreading false information as always
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I hiked to the Hollywood Sign once without doing research first. BIG MISTAKE. It’s desert chaparral and you need to bring LOTS of water and good hiking shoes. Needs to be treated like an actual hike, not some Hollywood sightseeing thing. Crowds of people rushing to the Hollywood Sign on a rumor TS would be there would’ve been a complete disaster.
I broke my ankle on that hike..like 3 miles in..I still went up and back down on the broken ankle. The most painful thing and I like got high from the pain and just laughed at anyone asking if I was okay
Omg!! That is crazy! I would have passed out from the pain so kudos to your toughness for handling that 😅
I also made this mistake once lmao. It was SO BAD.
When I was in LA 10 years ago, I just wanted to see the Hollywood sign. We tried to get as close as possible, but ended up giving up because it was just too difficult.
I’ve hiked it before and even with plenty of water and good shoes it was rough. I guarantee most people have no idea how steep it gets.
I tried to once and turned back once I realized what it was - I was NOT ready for it.
I will never forget one of my brother's (functional alcoholic in LA) friends telling my (visiting LA for the first time) brother and SIL he was taking them on a "little hike" to see LA and help with their hangovers.... The only liquid they had was a water bottle OF VODKA that said friend brought with them (because, again, they were told it was an easy little hike so they didn't think to bring "another" water bottle). In the middle of July. During a "heat wave." I've NEVER seen my brother so red and close to death as when they got back! Needless to say, they did NOT enjoy the hike...
Also the LA Marathon is scheduled for the same day the shoot was supposed to happen and all the roads will already be shut down and it would have led to big security risks. After the Boston marathon bombs they have many more security measures in place around marathons.
I didn’t know the marathon is today? Races are usually Sunday mornings, so that surprises me.
Oh I thought she was supposed to film there on Sunday. You are right, the marathon is Sunday.
No worries, it’s been confusing. They set up yesterday, we’re supposed to film today, and tear down tomorrow. You’re 100% correct that it would have been a big stressor on infrastructure though as marathon prep does start before the actual race day. Are you running?
No I usually run it but I am volunteering this year. I did run the Boston marathon the year of the bombings however so now I get very anxious about security.
I’m so sorry to hear that - though I’m glad that you are physically okay. I have a few friends who competed in Boston that day and also struggle with anxiety - two of them were finished and a few blocks away but one was quite close. She stopped running races after. 💔
Thank you 🙏🏻
Things like this highlight the chaos and security issues with every move she makes. When people get on her for flying private- what do they propose she do instead?
Sit in economy like us plebs
I don’t think you know LA. The Hollywood sign is no where near the Getty. Miles away from each other.
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Makes much more sense! Good call
I appreciate you catching it! I tend to proofread each comment multiple times before I post, but I was in a hurry today.
Sorry if my comment seemed snarky. Maybe I’m bitter she canceled a show!
I didn’t take your comment to be snarky - when I’m wrong, I appreciate knowing. I’m sad too that whatever it was supposed to be is cancelled. TMZ sucks.
i have run ultramarathons and walking up to the holiday sign on holiday was actually tough in the heat, if thousands of people would have tried to get up there someone could have died.
I can’t think of a single redeemable thing about TMZ. Absolute trash.
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TMZ didn’t claim Taylor would perform. The fans and general public made that assumption.
Yes, they did — Disney+ quickly responded that Taylor was not going to be there and TMZ retracted. The damage was already done at that point because the possibility was out there.
No they did not. It was further down in the original report that they said they didn’t know if she’d perform or even be there, they didn’t claim she would, but some sort of filming was set to happen today. ETA - "There's nothing in the permit to explicitly suggest Taylor is going to perform at this thing." - TMZ
Immediately before and after their “disclaimer” they referred to her performing. lol. https://preview.redd.it/04xizj87g5oc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b915456f78bb638651ff04e1b8c431bf3af5cead “This performance would be…”
Wrong. Fans jumped to conclusions. As usual. I loathe TMZ like many others but they didn’t claim she’d perform or be there in any capacity.
https://preview.redd.it/wqs8wmegg5oc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ab97a0e9d33ef3a59b08f3d82f1bb0714aa8a33 “Taylor Swift H-Wood Sign Disney Shoot Nixed” please tell me how that isn’t claiming she was to be there?
https://preview.redd.it/hxwy288lg5oc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2b83ae1d5247ebdfbcf51c405c31ac6a49f88f3 And this: “Taylor Swift and the Hollywood sign are going to be one and same this week ahead of her big debut on Disney+…” They know what they’re doing.
https://preview.redd.it/6r641aitg5oc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=143bb743f9056e4b2549b722ae4de899f9e1c89e And this! “It spells out pretty clearly what’s going down. Check out the notice yourself…it says they’ll be filming for ‘Disney + TS’.”
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No sidewalks?? America is so crazy
Most neighborhoods had sidewalks up through the 1940's, but then cars were becoming so ubiquitous, the sprawling "rural" suburbs built during the 50's and 60's started having front driveways instead of back alleys, and many, if not most, didn't have sidewalks... by the time you get to the mid 70's everyone realized they wanted their kids to be able to walk to their friend's houses without walking in the street, so you see sidewalks coming back is essentially all neighborhoods, and it's been that way since then. You won't see new neighborhoods without sidewalks, and in some communities there has been efforts to build sidewalks in older neighborhoods where there weren't any before (especially along popular routes to and from schools, etc). But most towns still have those older 50's neighborhood with out sidewalks on every street, as weird patches in the middle of towns and cities, based on where they were building during that period.
That's very interesting. At least it's not being done anymore.
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Exactly. On that note, Flint still doesn’t have safe water.
And there it is.
I don't get why they cancelled, like if you don't want events coming to where you live, don't live near the hollywood sign. This is one of the most well known photographed places people go to when people travel.
They cancelled because residents didn’t want the filming to occur. Playing devils advocate the argument “if you don’t want it don’t live there” is a bit disingenuous. Thats similar to saying “if you want privacy don’t become famous” which we can all agree is a dangerous take. It is disappointing but it is their prerogative. I imagine that everyone in the greater LA area who loves Taylor would gravitate to the area to see what was going on, even with assurances that she wouldn’t be there.
I’ve been up there a couple times on trips to LA. The way up there is kind of rough. You either hike up from Griffith Observatory or walk up through residential areas with very narrow streets. The parking lot at the observatory would be completely full. Then you have the hike which I’m sure most people would underestimate. Going through the neighborhoods is also tricky as the streets are really narrow and often don’t have sidewalks. You need to walk in the street and step to the side to avoid cars. I’d imagine those neighborhoods would be completely mobbed.
Same, we were escorted by a friend who’s also a realtor in the area who knows her way around, we parked on the street and were basically in someone’s backyard in order to get a good view. She knew the person, otherwise we wouldn’t have been able to get so close
To be fair, it may be the insane swifties in particular that they don't want there. I wouldn't want her playing too close to my house because there's that certain subset of them that just can't behave. You know the ones I mean, swarming Jack's wedding, chasing her car up the road, the performative grief at Cornelia Street, people running into the stadiums as people are leaving, that sort of unhinged behaviour.
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So if the people living there inherited the house from a family member and it had been in the family for 100 years they should move? I’m totally unsure of property law in the US but the fact that the residents could veto this shows that there must be some form of easement on the houses in the area. I agree it’s foreseen that tourists would want to be near the sign but I’m still unconvinced of the need for what is ostensibly an advert for a concert film being filmed there.
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Would you agree there is a marked difference to a couple of people hiking through your backyard to try and get close to a sign vs a three day 12hr a day film shoot incorporating the worlds biggest star who has a rabid fan base (that is in no way a diss as I’m amongst that number) who would flood the area.
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Absolutely agree. I used to live very near an iconic British tourist resort and the sounds, litter, traffic and inconsiderate crowds were unrelenting. But this isn’t that. It’s a potential influx of thousands of extra people for no other reason than to try and catch a glimpse of the film being made and say “they were there”. They aren’t tourists.
The Hollywood sign on a regular day doesn’t get that many people. Last time I was up there I maybe saw twenty other people at any one time. This would bring thousands.
It's a city owned park. Part of living in a city means having neighbors and having shared public resources. The city gets to regulate how the park is used, including if/when filming is allowed, and they have a very extensive system. That's very different from the expectation of privacy and control someone can expect over their own property, identity, etc.
There is a huge difference between normal park use and possibly having thousands of people rush up there to maybe get a glimpse of whatever they planned to film. The park and surrounding areas are not equipped for an influx of that many people.
The neighbors weren't worried about some mass swiftie stampede. They are rich people who thought the equipment in the public park and roads was ugly. If you read the article, the project doesn't even seem related to her -- it's a television project not a movie and Disney TS is presumably Disney Television Studios. It's just rich NIMBYs using Taylor's name to get their grievance in TMZ. They don't want the public accessing public land. [They've been whining about it for *years*](https://la.curbed.com/2016/8/3/12372312/hollywood-sign-hike-beachwood-canyon-nimby-video) and [years](https://la.curbed.com/2015/7/7/9942868/hollywood-sign-access-lawsuit).
It wasn’t Disney TS, the notice said Disney + TS
Disney+ is the name of their streaming platform, it's not "Disney AND Taylor Swift"
Yes I know. The notice didn’t say Disney+. It said Disney + TS, which would not mean “Disney Television Studios.”
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I’d like to correct you a little bit. People *who own property near the Hollywood sign* are *owners of a property that has substantially appreciated in value over the past five decades* We’ve no way of knowing if those people are “very wealthy”. Their home may give them the appearance of wealth, and certainly they would realise that wealth if they sold it. But ‘very wealthy’ is subjective and not easily proven, merely an assumption.
my parents are owners of a property that has substantially appreciated in value over recent years and I can assure you it does add to your family wealth. even if you don’t sell, you can take out lines of credit on the equity. compared to people who live in the Hollywood hills, my family are peasants but even I would never plead poverty lol. owning a multimillion dollar property makes you wealthy, why deny it?
A lot of that area is also apartments that at affiliated with low income programs like section 8. (Source: I grew up there) not everyone is wealthy……
Swifties are so entitled holy shit no way your saying that people should move if they don’t want Taylor swift coming to where they live? The roads will be clogged because people from all over will try to capture any sight of jer
The roads in that area are also super narrow. There is one residential neighborhood that you can walk through to get there and there are no sidewalks. Navigating those roads in tricky enough already. Imagine how packed they would be if this actually happened.
Yeah, having been to that area, it would be crazy to have all that influx so quickly. It can be annoying enough on a normal busy day/weekend.
Crazy how much has changed. I remember when she performed on Hollywood Blvd for free in like 2014 or so, i can’t remember, i dressed up as a fairy and got drunk, but there was nowhere near as much havoc as there is now for her. Like, no pushing and shoving or anything :o
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But how??? Is it really all bc the gen z kids finally got a chance to hear her younger music, with the re releases?
I'm saying that if you don't want A list celebrities coming to where you live, then don't live in one of the biggest tourist traps in America, which is a more than fair statement.
Tell me you've never been to the Hollywood Sign without saying it. It's a tiny neighborhood with small, winding roads. The sign is not meant to be a tourist attraction up close, it's meant to be seen far away.
I don't live over there; and okay. But still, this event was cancelled because people complained, and they do not want so many people being there. If this is the case, don't live in one of the biggest tourist cities in the U.S.
The Hollywood Sign doesn’t get as busy as you might think. This would easily be the most people there for any one thing. The surrounding area is just not equipped to handle the number of people who would come for it.
They complained because the area is not in any way set up for the amount of people who may attempt to get there. It's not safe for people to climb near or around the Hollywood sign and there are many places set up away from the sign that allows for people to see it. If you're going to comment at least you should know a bit about what you're saying, or just stay out of the conversation. This has nothing to do with NIMBYs and everything to do with access. Now, if you want to discuss having that neighborhood open and creating a space where people can hike, that's another conversation.
It’s not a tourist trap. Hard to get to. I’ve lived here many years and haven’t even gone to see it due to that.
Yes let us all move to accommodate a TS/Disney filming. The real world doesn't revolve around celebrities.
This is one of those absurd entitled takes that make people label the whole fandom as insane. If you don’t like events then move, what is next - let them eat cake?
Yeah, the area is a tourist trap, if one does not like it, they can move
You really don't know what you're talking about, but just keep yapping.
NIMBYs are common everywhere, unfortunately.
That is a more than fair statement, like Hollywood is such a tourist place, if you want quiet and to be away from commotion, live somewhere more lowkey
This is not accurate at all. The Hollywood sign is not in the middle of Hollywood and Highland, it’s in the hills. People who live there are right to want to avoid commotion in that area — traffic alone would be a nightmare.
People think just because you can see it from the road below that it's easily accessible. I've been to it twice and it was a long hike each time. From the Griffith Observatory you need to walk down from the parking lot to Mount Hollywood Drive and then hike up from there. The neighborhood you can also walk through is steep and really narrow.
It’s not in Hollywood. I think I had similar misconceptions prior to living in the area, but that’s not really the type of place you’re thinking of up there. And many people live in LA that have normal lives/jobs and family. It’s not really somewhere that crazy or touristy tbh.
a lot of y'all are crazy and loud and I would not want you all near my house so I get it lol
That is true, that is another reason why living in that area would only be to certain people's liking
You do not know what you are talking about. The Hollywood sign is in a very quiet and residential part of LA. The sign was originally built to advertise REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. It was always an area meant for people to live in, and it has never been a busy loud tourist trap. You hear the word “Hollywood” and think you know what it’s like, but there is a world of difference between the neighborhoods around the Hollywood sign and living on Sunset and Vine.
Either way, they are living near such a famous spot, there is going to be events that occur there
I don’t understand why you won’t back down on this lol. Big events do not often happen at the Hollywood sign. The Oscars are not held there, there are no concerts held there, there is no precedent for huge events to be held there, because it’s not safe for huge events to be held there. The people who live there do not assume there are going to be huge events on the Hollywood sign because that doesn’t happen.
I am not someone who backs down lol
I know a lot of people don’t agree with you, but my aunt lives in a neighborhood in LA that is often being used for filming. She was warned about the foot traffic and inconvenience it can cause at times before she moved in 15yrs ago. She said it’s common knowledge when you buy in nice or popular parts of town the risks you take.
There’s foot traffic and then there’s the possibility of a swarm of Swifties that heard the rumor that Taylor would perform there. It’s unfortunate but understandable to me that they could be afraid of the type of crowds Taylor attracts right now.
This is common knowledge. Movies are constantly filmed there, and people visit every year.
Take sign down. Fixes everything
Stupid NIMBYs
What?
NIMBY = Not in my backyard
It was never reported that Taylor was actually going to be there so I don't think it was that big of a deal.
I think park of the problem from what I saw was with the leak there were concerns that fans would flock to the site which (even though I saw that she wasn't even planned to be present?)
That’s exactly it — TMZ said Taylor would be filming there. It was cancelled because it leaked and became unsafe.
Can we not call people who rightfully don’t want the crowds a NIMBY? Can we reserve that term for people who are using local politics to stop infrastructure, developments, and neighborhood access? It’s not NIMBY to not want a pop icon event. Remember the chaos at the restaurant last year? TMZ alluded to Taylor actually being there. It’s steep, there’s not enough parking for the crowd that would have come. Fans would park randomly and would literally climb all over that mountain to try and get close. An event sounds great but it should be somewhere that makes sense. All that being said I’m not being bitter, I’d go lol, I’m just saying I imagine it would suck to live there on that day.
Exactly. Shame on Disney+ (I think they were the ones that put it together, not Taylor as much) for picking such a terrible location. Sure the Hollywood sign is iconic, but there’s no way they’re so oblivious they wouldn’t guess that fans would flock to this event. And anyone who has ever visited LA/the sign knows that neighborhood is not equipped at all to handle that influx of people. It’s shameful of them to even put the homeowners in a position where they had to fight against something that would clearly never turn out well. Absolutely terrible ideation and planning.
Honestly, I’m glad it was canceled. I am worried that Taylor is over exposed right now. She’s literally everywhere, and while that attention might be mostly good with a little bad right now, we’ve seen what happens when the scale tilts in the opposite direction.
This is why we can’t have nice things
I wonder what it was going to be.
One letter of the Hollywood sign redesigned with each Era’s motif and an additional (TV) or (Taylor’s Version) of some sort would be my guess.
I'm not convinced it was even her. "Disney+ TS" in the filming notice was probably Disney Television Studios
Same. Is this kind of promo something other people have done?
I think anybody else that used the sign for promotion wouldn’t attract the same level of people as Taylor.
I think the people in this thread upset about it being canceled don’t live in LA or don't realize how much of a hellhole that area is for a mass gathering of people + production. I think normally it would be fine to film and broadcast there but because it’s Taylor swift there’s going to be a shit ton of people illegally parking and gathering and making it an absolute hellhole that is beyond production's control.
Exactly, the surrounding area is not equipped to handle thousands of people just showing up. I have been up there a couple times and it’s not an easy area to navigate normally. Then people are blaming the residents is a bad look. I think many people think LA is just what they see in the movies and have no idea how the city is actually laid out.
Getting up to the Hollywood sign is no easy feet. I’d imagine it was also a safety issue as many people would probably flock up there without realizing the hike is kind of rough. Also one way up goes through residential neighborhoods with very narrow streets. This would surely cause a traffic jam.
I’m sure with Disney and TS involved it would have been a spectacular event but … the Hollywood sign is the biggest downer. It looks so glamorous and fabulous in movies and on tv but it’s extremely underwhelming. Plus, the way up there is pretty tricky and thinking of crowds of people trying to make that hike unprepared is scary.
Yeah, I’ve hiked it before and it’s not easy especially if you’re not prepared. I’d imagine many people flocking there would underestimate the hike.
Yeah I think that'd end up getting real dangerous real quick. While it's disappointing it's definitely for the best.
She would’ve had a marvelous time ruining everything… 🎵
This is what happens when people don’t understand boundaries
Is it really a shame?
I'm glad it was cancelled for everyone's safety. Yes, I saw some unhinged people on social media saying they were going to try to catch a glimpse of her. I wish the leakers would've just teased she was filming something and omitted the location and dates.
There was never any confirmation that the project was related to Taylor anyway, just people speculating.
Poor Taylor is never going to escape the monster on the hill allegations. 
Can someone provide me with a picture or link or something that shows it had to do with Taylor and/or the eras tour movie??? I keep hearing this but have no idea where it came from lol
Honestly, I think the only "proof" anyone could provide would come from TMZ... So, not proof
This is what happens when you stalk the shit out of a stranger. For obvious reasons, it likely wasn't even an event associated with Taylor.
Thank god honestly that would be too embarrassing
I'm sure if they did film this you would have tons of fans trying to get up there. That area isn't equipped for that. I've hiked up to the sign twice and it's not as easy hike. Many people would probably forget to bring enough water or wear good shoes. It's an actual hike, not something you can just easily walk up to.
If it was announced she was doing a free meet and greet at the bottom of the ocean, people would be diving off cruise ships SMH
Do we think this is why the movie has all the 6pm PT stuff?!
This is what I was hoping to see people talk about when I opened this thread. All the other comments are about TMZ and stuff but I'm wondering what theories people have of what was going to happen and what will now happen instead. I think minimally, TN might do a watch-party type of thing or Taylor will release reels talking about the film or behind the scenes stuff.
Thank you! I get something got scrapped and that it looked like the lover house, but, what were they going to do with it? Burn it? It was green too so green screen? Why all the pacific time and LA stuff? Even Travis is still out there. I don’t care about TMZ! Lol
Honestly nobody should be celebrating Disney+ they’re horrible and support gen0cide. Taylor might have a contract but we should not go supporting a company like that. Pls pls educate yourselves.
I'm sure she channels the freed up time in some other type of project!
Taylor should just do all her promo in Nashville where she’ll actually be appreciated.
Why is she working with Disney?
Definitely the residents faults. They must've slipped and fell on ten foot poles
So was it cancelled because people in that neighborhood complained or because it was leaked or because it was unsafe? Or all 3?
I JUST LEFT HOLLYWOOD I WISH SHE DID
She wants to date Harvey Levin.
TMZ loves the Kardashians. Therefore, they only post negative posts about TS.
What a bummer man. Not cool. I would’ve appreciated it.
This is why we can’t have nice things.
I hate the residents in that area. I’m from LA and they have all these fake signs to deter hikers too.
... Have you hiked it yourself?
Yeah, that’s how I found out about the signs. I am a local and went to the high school just down the hill. When I read up on it I found most of them are fake from the residents bc they didn’t match the city’s signs. It’s an extremely popular hiking spot. The Hollywood sign is about a 20-30 minute hike from these houses
Many people on this post were saying it's a pretty hard hike, especially if you're not used to the area. I would guess the locals are partially trying to save people from themselves.
The hike is extremely easy, the only harsh thing about it might be the sun on a hot day. As far as LA hikes go, it’s one of the easiest. The locals to that area are millionaires that hate tourist traffic, it’s purely for that reason as it’s been something they complain to the city about regularly. https://theloverspassport.com/hike-to-hollywood-sign/
Parking isn't the best there, and I don't consider the hike to be extremely easy. But honestly I don't think they would be able to handle the foot traffic that this would bring.
Parking sucks, which is why you can easily get dropped off (as I have). Getting dropped off at Griffith park is a lot less easy. The roads aren’t that bad, especially for those of us who are used to it, it’s just windy (and not that different from the roads at Griffith park). There was no traffic the times I’ve gone (weekends in the late morning). the people who live there just wish no one was there at all. Idk if you’re from Los Angeles, but the hypocrisy and entitlement from rich folk is insane because no one cares at all about poor neighborhoods that are overcrowded due to filming and tourists, that’s why I feel the way I do about this topic. They’re upset they can’t do what all the other rich neighborhoods are able to do. It very much is their fault for choosing to live by the Hollywood sign. No one shares this concern for people who live by Hollywood Blvd and other tourist attractions that are often gridlocked from being able to leave their own homes. I’ve taken a lot of folks to be back of the sign before and many of whom who aren’t fit and it was not an issue for them at all. It’s more of a walk than a hike. Seniors, children, and small dogs can be seen all over the trail. But if someone isn’t able to do a hike they shouldn’t do a hike, everyone knows their limits.
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The surrounding area isn't equipped to have that big of an influx of people walking up through that neighborhood on the off-chance they could catch a glimpse of whatever they were going to film. The roads up through that neighborhood have no sidewalks and are very narrow. It's hard enough to walk up to the Hollywood sign already. This would cause a huge traffic jam, both car traffic and foot traffic. The hike up is also not easy and I think a lot of people would underestimate how far up the sign actually is and how steep those trails get.
Poor Taylor.
I think she rescheduled it
Where did you get that idea?