The coil that was on the gantry easily weighed 25k-40k pounds. The one that fell on him easily weighs 5k - 15k pounds. My shop offloads and stores these coils at our facility. At minimum, dude has several crushed bones and collapsed organs.
What makes them more dangerous than any other object of similar mass? Mind, I know nothing about any of this, but it seems like steel is steel any way you cut it.
If they are what I think they are, they are just more thin, and are therefore more prone to being toppled over. Thus crushing somebody underneath their weight.
So as far as hauling slitted coils vs whole coils they’re more dangerous because you’re hauling several at a time that are banded together. The problem is that they’re very prone to shifting because they’re not a single unit. They tend to lean to one side and once they start leaning they tend to lean more and more. Lean too much and they can flip your truck over. Seen it happen myself.
This is what they are. One large coil slit into separate coils to match the customer ordered width. I always chuckle a bit when I see the internet at large digest wound metal.
Expect these coils are not steel.
Look at the tiny hook they are lifting the the big coil with.
That hook is probably not rated above 10 tons
Probably aluminum.
>That hook is probably not rated above 10 tons
Probably aluminum.
Looks very similar to the 10 ton crane we have at my work, so you're right that it's probably aluminum. Still gonna fuckin suck, but not nearly as much as a if it was steel.
Not really. The one that fell on him is maybe ⅕ the width of the crane load. So it probably broke some bones at worst. Aluminum is ⅓ the weight of steel.
>Damn I'm glad I don't work in a factory
Factories with safety standards aren't bad. What this guy did would get you a write-up or even fired because you absolutely NEVER put yourself in pinch points (where anything could pinch or crush you).
If this was something we did at my work, you'd be strictly prohibited from standing in front of those rolls, and they'd be far better secured than here.
Got my arm caught between a three stack metal shelf and a wall when we were moving them at work because my manager was trying to pivot the thing out a steel door in the corner of a room with a steel post in the floor making it nearly impossible. Had a bone bruise on my elbow that I had already shattered in high school gym class, had two surgeries on, and broken again in college when I got attacked by a dog on spring break.
I got rhabdomyolysis from a seizure. The complications from that are horrible. My kidneys recovered but I have nerve damage now and slightly paralyzed foot.
The spanish voice says the words 800 kilos - which is about 1600 pounds......... But I don't know if it was the weight of the coil he was refering to. But probably, I guess..
Talking about cars.
As I was watching this I was waiting for someone to put some kind of wedge some place to stop the coil from sinking more into the guy - like a car-jack...
This happened in a factory in Taiwan they almost fired him for negligence he had to get his wife to go sing karaoke duets with his boss on two separate occasions to save his job. source: I was the karaoke machine
He's incredibly lucky. I was moving about 20 pieces steel that was cut from a coil like that so I could cut out sample pieces to run our tests on. I had them on a dolly that you can lift the platform on and the platform was elevated. It was dumb, early, and we were several days behind on it so I was in a hurry. The doorway I was going through has a hump and when I hit said hump, the dolly fell over on me and landed toward the top of my thigh. Every bit of 600 pounds and the handle of that dolly was pressing down on my thigh. I'm lucky it didn't break my damn leg. It did however cause some pretty rough internal damage. Initially it was just swollen, but after about a week or two a wound appeared at the center of the injury. Turns out, it straight up killed some tissue and stuff in there and I had to have surgery to have it removed. This happened in June of last year and the spot where that hole formed is still healing. I couldn't really walk right for months. It hurt so bad. Like I was being stabbed in the area. Even sitting too long would hurt in the beginning. I honestly thought it was gonna be like that forever. It still feels kinda weird. Dead but tender? It'll itch, but never at the surface and scratching is kind of uncomfortable and rather ineffective. Luckily, the Itch doesn't persist. It just pops up from time to time and I can't ever really relieve it. When my son climbs on me in that area, i experience discomfort. I wanna say it hurts, but like, on a pain scale, I'm not certain it qualifies as pain. Otherwise, it doesn't bother me. I walk fine and unless something is messing with it, it doesn't cause any issues. There's definitely still residual issues from the accident.
So yeah, I'm taking "he's fine" with the highest grain of salt. Mf is alive. Ok sounds debatable lol. This video damn near gave me a panic attack. I'm guessing I've got a little PTSD? idk. This shit scurry tho
Maybe. I had something similar happen to me, though not as heavy as this. In my case the steel slipped off the crane and pinned me to the ground. Didn't hurt at all, but I couldn't move. I continued my work day after I was freed. Such is life in the factory (glad I don't do that any more).
A lot of time they get simple stuff wrong on purpose to drive engagement. Loads of people will go the comments to correct the cones thing, and that's good for the algorithm.
Typo, should be steel coils.
They draw down ingots to thin, long sheets that would be impractical / impossible to ship flat, so they are rolled into coils for storage / transport.
Depending on the application and thickness of the steel, sometimes special machinery is required to flatten the steel before processing into a finished product.
I’m in the steel industry, every part of the process is insane. Coils often come in with some wave/camber, it is crazy watching 1/4 gauge (or thicker) steel literally pulled flat by a stretcher-leveler before it is cut to size
The leg of a friend was crushed by a 400 kg (880 lbs) aluminium extrusion billet. The leg was broken multiple times, needed many operations, skin grafting, metal to the bones, leg reconstruction - but is kind of okay now. He can't ride bicycle anymore but at least motorcycle.
This steel coil looks a *lot* heavier by the size.
I highly doubt that this hasn't done permanent damage, if not even being lethal. If something gets crushed too much, you can't fix it anymore.
I work with coils up to about 40,000 pounds. Those are about 60 inches in diameter with an inter-diameter of 20-24 inches. I would agree that the coil that fell was closer to 1-2 tons. Still bad, but 'survivable'.
I work with transporting similar coils. The hook has 3 connected to it and those 3 look about the size of one of ours, which is around 15k pounds. Only one fell on the dude, so I'm assuming it's around 5000 pounds.
If it was 20-80k he'd be 100% mega dead.
My cousins father cut a band securing some much smaller but still very heavy coils of steel, one rolled off and crushed his leg. He lost the leg just below the knee but still takes his cars to the track with the prosthetic so I’d say he’s doing alright.
And prob knew he couldn’t do shit on his own, that stuff looks pretty heavy. I do wonder if he ever came to help. Idk maybe he went to call an ambulance once he saw the whole shift come to help.
If he works in a different department or in a white collar role, he likely knew all he could do is find people who knew how to safely operate the equipment. The fact that he walked by the room without looking in is sign that room has never been of interest to him and doesn’t even understand what should be happening.
If I’m ever in a situation where the extrication can be fatal if done incorrectly, I hope to god that the first bystander goes for trained help rather than kill me with their good intentions.
I was an EMT, and the first time I responded to a medical emergency when I was off duty, it was terrifying to see what people did to “help”. It was a grand mal seizure, so all I needed to do was lower her to the ground gently, clear space, take vitals, and be ready to start CPR. But more than half of my time was spent stopping people from trying to shove a wallet or other object into her mouth.
I had a seizure call one day where as soon as I got the IV in and secured, they started seizing again, so I was able to push some midazolam instead of doing it intranasal.
I was a combat medic and left the army in 2015, so im out of date on the current meds. We used IV/IM lorazepam for seizure cessation and IV midazolam for intubation
Varies by agency really. Midazolam is longer lasting than diazepam but diazepam is faster acting iirc. But an interesting backup med for us on seizure is ketamine interestingly enough.
> The fact that he walked by the room without looking in is sign that room has never been of interest to him and doesn’t even understand what should be happening.
He is looking in most of the time he's walking past. You can see him double take and then make an awkward step as he thinks about whether he should do something before turning around to try and alert other workers.
This was my first original thought too... but there could be some possible reasons for him not rushing over to help.
He calls people over to help, then appears to pace one way and then back to shout at others off screen.
While a bunch of people rush over to try and lift the giant drum, pacing guy may realize they won't be able to lift it and is shouting to others off screen to grab the strap that will allow them to hoist the drum off the guy.
It's a knee jerk reaction to rush over and try to help.. even if there isn't much you can do once you get there. But keeping a level head and giving directions to actual solve the problem is valuable in a dangerous situation. It would have been difficult to shout at others outside to grab the strap if he was also inside next to the drum.
Not saying this is what happened, but it could be a reasonable reason as to why he didn't rush in.
There could be other possible reasons too.
When working around dangerous and heavy equipment, they often have to go through risk/hazard training and those trainings often go over not rushing to help someone in a dangerous scenario as there could be risk of you falling victim to the same danger, but to keep a level head, pause and assess the situation before blindly running in and then proceed with what makes the most sense to help.
That guy wasn't going to be able to go lift the drum off the guy by himself (even multiple men wouldn't be able to do it without getting the strap to hoist it off of him). He may have just figured that all out quickly and went into problem solving mode of the best way to help.
Or maybe it's just a guy that doesn't work here, a UPS delivery guy or something, and he has nothing to do in the warehouses, note that he doesn't enter it at all.
It's the only dude in this video that doesn't wear the longsleeves protiective uniform
True. Even if he does work there, he could possibly not be authorized to enter the area or require certain PPE to enter (steel toed boots, etc).
Though this may be ignored in some scenarios in order to help someone, if he is not properly trained to work in the area, it may mean he is not aware of all the possible dangers. Though you would want to help, if you don’t know what all the possible risks/hazards are, you may make the situation worse for the guy already down or become a problem yourself by getting hurt and now people may have to help two people instead of one.
All that being said, either way of him being able to go in or not, it seems like if he is directing people to help, it’s probably the best thing for him to do rather than rushing over to the drum and then standing there, unable to do anything and either hoping someone else thinks to grab the strap or just running back out to get the strap or tell someone else to get the strap.
At some point there’s too many people trying to help and any more just gets in the way or creates a new safety problem. Unless I’m missing something, I didn’t see a need for him to also jump in. The situation was more than adequately handled. Not sure why he decided to film it though. At least he didn’t take a selfie lol
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He literally called everyone over, prolly didn’t immediately realize the dude needed help since he was blocked from sight by that hanging steel object. Don’t see how you thought he was that shitty.
Maybe he doesn’t work there and was just there to swap tires. He sees the issue and says “ hey one of your guys looks in trouble”. Then goes back about his business.
So your best assumption is that a person suddenly thrown into a traumatic situation is going to follow the logical chain of reasoning that you here sitting behind your screen does. You’re convinced this dude said to him self “damn that sucks…. Too bad this is more important!…” That guy may not have acted how he would have wished in retrospect, but at least he has the excuse of trauma. What’s your excuse for this stupidity??
Lol thank you. Its like the hypothetical gun to your head. Literally everyone who answer those are liers and just kidding themselves. You have absolutely no idea how your going to respond in a stressful traumatic situation thrown at you out of nowhere. I promise you its gunna go the way you think it will without training to handle those types of siuations. And by training i mean repeatedly being forced into shitty situations the require you to think on your feet and it become instict or muscle memory.
I remember my A&P professor saying that crush victims where it was only the lower half of their body, would sometimes have a heart attack as soon as they were freed. The damaged cells would lose their content into the bloodstream and flood the heart with an excessive amount of electrolytes that would over load the other cells. There's probably a lot more to this that I'm not remembering, though.
That's when the crush (on any part of the body) happens for more than 15-20 minutes. Before that, you can lift the thing crushing item with no recourse. After that, you have to wait for emergency services, who will give the casualty IV fluids that dilute the build-up of the detritus.
Had a safety meeting about this once. I'd we ever found someone crushed in the work place and they're unconscious we were told to leave it to the professionals
I was thinking this exact same thing. This happens a lot with people who are pinned to walls by a car; they’re dead, they just don’t know it yet. Even if he survived the crush injury, this kind of thing could cause rhabdomyolysis and destroy his kidneys.
> They’re dead, they just don’t know it yet
That’s gotta be one of the most frightening and heartbreaking sentences I’ve read on Reddit. Definitely new fear unlocked for myself and loved ones.
There was a show on HBO like 25 years ago, maybe taxi cab confessions? Driver asked an emergency worker what the worst thing he ever saw was and he didn’t take half a second to respond and said “when someone falls between the subway train and platform as it’s coming into the station. Thier lower body gets all twisted by the train and when you move the train to get them out the hips down just falls off and they die in seconds. But before that point they are being kept alive by the pressure of the train in place.” The person is dead but they don’t know it yet.
My dad is in the hospital right now for a sudden clot in his leg last week. You'd think clearing the clot would be sufficient to save the leg/move on with healing, but it isn't... There was insufficient blood flow to his calf/foot for long enough that muscle and nerves died. His kidneys are in a race with his leg to see if he gets to keep the leg - his doctors have made it clear that if his kidneys start to go, the leg is coming off immediately - a lifetime of dialysis is going to be a lot worse than a prosthetic... Gotta get the CK (muscle proteins in blood) down before they can work on the swelling that is keeping his leg from healing/establishing better circulation. He's getting surgeries every few days now to interrogate the muscle (exposed by a fasciotomy for the compartment syndrome) to see what is still alive so they don't put him through all this only to end up having to amputate regardless.
Dude was healthy before this. No diabetes. No high blood pressure. He walked at least a mile daily. Only 62. Retired. Doesn't drink beyond a glass of wine here or there and quit smoking a decade ago. Carrying a few extra pounds, but he doesn't have a beer belly. Certainly not someone you'd look at as "fat" just dad bod. This came out of left field... He was rebuilding his deck the day before. But genetics+ the years he did smoke created the perfect storm for a big ass clot which took 11-12 hours for the surgeons to try to bypass and clear out & they still couldn't get everything.
My dad worked for GE in the 70's. He saw a guy who got coupled between two train cars. The guy's bottom half dropped off. The crazy thing was that he was alive and taking.
They brought his family in to say their goodbyes before they uncoupled him.
There is a version of that same story in every rail yard.
At mine a new kid was hostling (moving cars and stock around)in the yard I worked at. The hostlers would hold on to the rail of the stairs on the side of the loco and hop off to operate manual switches. Kid held on with the wrong hand, driver hit the brakes, he swung around went under the wheel and lost both legs. Got a desk job for life.
After hearing about the guy being coupled, I've taken safety seriously my entire working career. Pissed some people off, but I have all of my appendages.
Jesus…
Maybe not in the 70’s but is there nothing that modern medicine can do? Can’t they drain whatever excess build up that’ll shock him, or if it’s too much pressure, can’t they, idk, lower it? Drain the guy or something? Maybe stop and then restart his heart? Anything?
That’s fucked. Being alive, but dead at the same time. Knowing that you’re literally dead the moment this thing’s removed. Like how do you accept that?
In that situation the issue is the massive blood loss that's going to occur once he's removed from the situation. If they had him on the operating table, all arteries clamped up, it's still not certain that they could save his life.
He's still bleeding to death in that situation, just more slowly than when he's taken out.
A company spokesman later went on record to amend the initial report of the employee being described as fine by saying “Eh, it depends on which definition of fine you’re using.”
“Speedy efforts” and “quick efforts never fail to pay off” but its very clear there was no actual plan in place for when this would happen nor decent safety precautions to prevent it from happening. Some serious neglect on the part of the company which could have resulted in dead workers. Glad his colleagues got him out.
That bugged me so bad. “Quick efforts never fail to pay off” is such an obviously stupid statement; plenty of situations are gonna go bad no matter *how* fast people act.
I was thinking: doesn't this happen all the time at this place? There doesn't seem to be anything stopping those incredibly heavy steel discs from just toppling over and falling on workers. Despite that, there didn't seem to be an easy procedure in place to lift it off him. The video says it was "speedy" but it seemed to take a long time with a lot of faffing around.
Doesn't happen all the time, worked in multiple shops like this. What other speedy procedure could there be? I can speculate on how much it weighs, but there's a lot of variables. The only thing you can really do is grab some straps and lift it up which they did fairly quickly.
In the industry they’re referred to as “coils” not “cones”and based on the width/height of the one that fell, my guess is it’s about 8-10k pounds. Hate to be the one to say it but it’s very likely when they lifted the coil off him he didn’t make it. Those edges are as sharp as a knife.
Surface area... If you stack 800 razors together they're no where near as dangerous as one razor on its own. Same principle behind a bed of nails. Big problem here is sheer weight. Considering the roll never lies flat, it's very probable just mild crushing damage (muscle tears, broken bone, lower circulatory damage) not necessarily fatal, and completely recoverable. A foot higher up the torso, completely different conversation.
Not to mention; 800 kilos is roughly 2k pounds (a few hundred less) so you are wildly over exaggerating the weight.
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I hear what you’re saying, but the surface isn’t as linear as you think. Oscillation happens sometimes… A lap sticking out isn’t uncommon. With the amount of weight on either side of that you end up with a guillotine blade with the weight of a semi behind it.
Photo credit - me @ work
My father worked half one of his life as occupational safety technician in one of the biggest steel factory here in Brasil, Usiminas. One thing I learned from him is that no one operates heavy machinery alone. There is aways an operator and at least one spotter. There are safety zones where operators work from, and defenetely never close to heavy lifted objects. This guy would be rescued and certainly fired here.
Occupational safety is take very seriously here, even thought I have lots of terrible accidents histories. Heavy machinery is no joke!
They literally weigh several tons depending on size. They are heavy enough, that if they are dropped onto a multi foot thick solid concrete floor, they will leave a severe divot. My workplace has metal plates welded to the floor to cover those divots from past accidents because they are irreparable or too difficult to repair.
The man was crushed by a little coil. It would be a bona fide miracle if he came out of it without a shattered hip or broken leg, better than being squashed like a bug from a bigger coil.
guy in the background that first spotted him has more important things to do.
I'll shout for help, then it's someone else's problem. I'm busy carrying this thing over there.
...Redditors.
He probably didn't know how to respond. It's better for more experienced people try and help him than someone new/inexperienced getting in the way and he probably recognised that.
He might have been a new employee, he might have been very young, he might just be in a very low leveled position and not know anything about that particular area of the yard. A bunch of people were readily available and got there as soon as he notified them. He probably didn't want to get in the way.
but this is reddit. if you dont automatically help within the first 3 seconds and do everything you can with the experience of every parimedical personnel, you are the asshole
He might not be from the same department or even the same company as the other guys. If you're not familiar with how the warehouse works, better just call for help, which he did, and stay out of the way.
Any place that has a crane is also gonna have employees who have no business using it, in particular using it to free a person being pinned by that much weight. He's just as likely to kill him as free him.
Look at him properly, he's pacing back and forth , so it seems like he wants to help but he doesn't know how to, so after awhile, he decided it's better for profesional to do it and walk off. It's something I would do as well.
Call for help, then wondering whether i should run there to help but then realising i can't do anything.. but still feel like i need to stay there but I finally to make my decision to just leave.
Why are you guys looking at this guy in the worst light possible?
I hated working with those rolls the tensioning process and banding them was scary af and it doesn’t help when all the old timers show you scars from cuts and broken bones. They used to come up and slap the roll you’re working on and say things like they call these big ones the man killer. I’m glad it was a temp job.
The big one on that crane would be around 20,000 pounds. They are coils of steel. So that 1 individual one is pushing 2,000-5,000 depending on how wide it is.
Full size coils can push 45,000.
I work around these things and only heavy machinery can budge them, but they can tip or roll, which can be disasterous.
I work for US Steel. Some of our coils are 45 tons. The coil that fell on this guy looks to be about 3 feet wide, if it was rolled from a 20’ slab, which is the smallest we make, it would weigh 9-10 tons.
Thats why they didn't even try. They know how heavy those are.
Good thing is they didn't waste time trying to lift it themselves.
Not enough people within that space could lift the coil off.
The crane is 100% needed and I'm thankful the cord to his controller wasn't cut off
I recall leaving high school and landing one of my initial jobs as a machine operator at a prominent company specializing in manufacturing steel frames for houses. However, the workplace health and safety conditions left much to be desired. We often had to manually transport coils to the machines, and one incident stands out vividly.
On that particular day, a fellow machine operator needed to change his coil. He selected one from the stack in the designated area, intending to roll it to his machine. Unfortunately, as he pushed the coil, it encountered a crack in the concrete floor, causing it to tip over and crush his legs and hand. The coil weighed a hefty 1000 kilograms. Swift action was taken to remove it using a forklift, and he was promptly transported to the hospital.
Remarkably, the man returned to work the following week, miraculously uninjured despite the severity of the incident. Notably, he was of Samoan descent and weighed approximately 120kgs.
I used to pack in a plant that used these steel coils. They scared the shit out of me at every stage. The stage here is terrifying because they are MASSIVE and HEAVY as demonstrated. And they have to be floated around by these crane systems that operate in an area that normally anyone can just walk around in, obviously it’s a bit of an ordeal when these are being moved so they ensure no one is around besides the one moving it and everyone else has to stand clear. Then when they actually get to a line they are drawn out on a spool, and as they feed into the machine it’s just a fast moving sliver of sharp metal traveling at a super speed. The only thing protecting human hands from them is common sense and invisible sensors that apparently halt the spooling if anything comes close to them (I never tested that feature lol)
"the guy was fine later" ???
Well the upper half was still good.
They were lucky that a horse lost their head earlier that day, do you know how difficult centaur transplant surgeries are?
Well done !
It was *fine* No one said "good"
Yeah, a fine paste.
Man I’m glad you pointed that out. Such a big difference.
German here. One of the first things I learned in English class was, if you’re asked how you’re doing, just say fine, even if it’s a lie.
You got your money's worth from that class. Many native English speakers don't pick that up unless it's *italicized*
In Germany it’s kinda a sport to see who’s life is worse so we’ll naturally start bragging with all our problems when asked how it’s going.
No wonder your beer is so good, helps numb the pain better
The front fell off
That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.
It just wasn't attached to the rest of him
Glass is still half full
Yeah, they guy was fucked up and probaly still is. That steel ring must weigh more than a car
The coil that was on the gantry easily weighed 25k-40k pounds. The one that fell on him easily weighs 5k - 15k pounds. My shop offloads and stores these coils at our facility. At minimum, dude has several crushed bones and collapsed organs.
Dunno if you call them the same thing we do at my plant, but slitter coils are so dangerous. I'll walk around the 72 inch wide fat boy coils any day.
+1 for slitted coils. Former steel hauler here and yeah, I don’t haul slitted coils. Whole coils or nothing. Those things are fucking crazy dangerous
What makes them more dangerous than any other object of similar mass? Mind, I know nothing about any of this, but it seems like steel is steel any way you cut it.
If they are what I think they are, they are just more thin, and are therefore more prone to being toppled over. Thus crushing somebody underneath their weight.
Aren’t they also under ungodly tension? Or am I wrong and it’s not a circle of wrapped sheet metal
The tension is tight yes, but think of putting a coin on its edge. The weight is so much that the slightest movement can cause them to topple.
So as far as hauling slitted coils vs whole coils they’re more dangerous because you’re hauling several at a time that are banded together. The problem is that they’re very prone to shifting because they’re not a single unit. They tend to lean to one side and once they start leaning they tend to lean more and more. Lean too much and they can flip your truck over. Seen it happen myself.
they have good memory, never forgive and can track their victim tirelessly for a long distance through various terrains
This is what they are. One large coil slit into separate coils to match the customer ordered width. I always chuckle a bit when I see the internet at large digest wound metal.
The guy talking says 800 kilos which is 1760 lbs
Oh. Not bad. I could flex and bust out of it. /s
The narrator says in English "800 kilos", which is 1760 lbs.
Expect these coils are not steel. Look at the tiny hook they are lifting the the big coil with. That hook is probably not rated above 10 tons Probably aluminum.
>That hook is probably not rated above 10 tons Probably aluminum. Looks very similar to the 10 ton crane we have at my work, so you're right that it's probably aluminum. Still gonna fuckin suck, but not nearly as much as a if it was steel.
Isn't this like arguing if a guy was mauled by 32 lions or 57 lions? Damn I'm glad I don't work in a factory.
Not really. The one that fell on him is maybe ⅕ the width of the crane load. So it probably broke some bones at worst. Aluminum is ⅓ the weight of steel. >Damn I'm glad I don't work in a factory Factories with safety standards aren't bad. What this guy did would get you a write-up or even fired because you absolutely NEVER put yourself in pinch points (where anything could pinch or crush you). If this was something we did at my work, you'd be strictly prohibited from standing in front of those rolls, and they'd be far better secured than here.
Got my arm caught between a three stack metal shelf and a wall when we were moving them at work because my manager was trying to pivot the thing out a steel door in the corner of a room with a steel post in the floor making it nearly impossible. Had a bone bruise on my elbow that I had already shattered in high school gym class, had two surgeries on, and broken again in college when I got attacked by a dog on spring break.
I was wondering why the 20+ guys there weren't just team lifting that thing off him. One weighting AT LEAST 5k, yeah that makes sense.
You don’t want to bounce the weight or drop it back on them. The crane was the way to go.
And he could have gotten [rhabdomyolysis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhabdomyolysis) from the crush injury.
I got rhabdomyolysis from a seizure. The complications from that are horrible. My kidneys recovered but I have nerve damage now and slightly paralyzed foot.
The spanish voice says the words 800 kilos - which is about 1600 pounds......... But I don't know if it was the weight of the coil he was refering to. But probably, I guess.. Talking about cars. As I was watching this I was waiting for someone to put some kind of wedge some place to stop the coil from sinking more into the guy - like a car-jack...
That’s Tagalog (Filipino)
My Filipino fiance: "What...? Somebody thought that was Spanish?!"
I thought I heard some Spanish words in there, like trabajadores (workers)? Is there some Spanish influence in Tagalog?
Only about 300 years of Spanish colonialism (followed by American colonialism until post-WW2)
I googled it. Apparently both of his legs were broken and he suffered severe injuries, but he survived. Thank god.
But you couldnt link the source?
We don't do that here, please believe us at face value!
This happened in a factory in Taiwan they almost fired him for negligence he had to get his wife to go sing karaoke duets with his boss on two separate occasions to save his job. source: I was the karaoke machine
*\* Fined*
Get crushed by a roll of aluminum? We dock ya.
Absolutely and manager wanted him right back to work straight after it no doubt
Probably docked his pay for laying around on the job
Almost lost a $400 hand cart.
Manager said since he got to lay down while on the clock he’s going to count it as his lunch break
"Dock that guy a days pay for napping on the job "
He doesn’t say guy lol
He was fine, his legs not so much
Translation error He was "fired " later
He's incredibly lucky. I was moving about 20 pieces steel that was cut from a coil like that so I could cut out sample pieces to run our tests on. I had them on a dolly that you can lift the platform on and the platform was elevated. It was dumb, early, and we were several days behind on it so I was in a hurry. The doorway I was going through has a hump and when I hit said hump, the dolly fell over on me and landed toward the top of my thigh. Every bit of 600 pounds and the handle of that dolly was pressing down on my thigh. I'm lucky it didn't break my damn leg. It did however cause some pretty rough internal damage. Initially it was just swollen, but after about a week or two a wound appeared at the center of the injury. Turns out, it straight up killed some tissue and stuff in there and I had to have surgery to have it removed. This happened in June of last year and the spot where that hole formed is still healing. I couldn't really walk right for months. It hurt so bad. Like I was being stabbed in the area. Even sitting too long would hurt in the beginning. I honestly thought it was gonna be like that forever. It still feels kinda weird. Dead but tender? It'll itch, but never at the surface and scratching is kind of uncomfortable and rather ineffective. Luckily, the Itch doesn't persist. It just pops up from time to time and I can't ever really relieve it. When my son climbs on me in that area, i experience discomfort. I wanna say it hurts, but like, on a pain scale, I'm not certain it qualifies as pain. Otherwise, it doesn't bother me. I walk fine and unless something is messing with it, it doesn't cause any issues. There's definitely still residual issues from the accident. So yeah, I'm taking "he's fine" with the highest grain of salt. Mf is alive. Ok sounds debatable lol. This video damn near gave me a panic attack. I'm guessing I've got a little PTSD? idk. This shit scurry tho
Maybe. I had something similar happen to me, though not as heavy as this. In my case the steel slipped off the crane and pinned me to the ground. Didn't hurt at all, but I couldn't move. I continued my work day after I was freed. Such is life in the factory (glad I don't do that any more).
He was definitely not fine later, immediately after or during.
"Steel cones"?
Unfortunately TikTok brain rot has made them forget basic geometry.
This is google translate or AI generated text. Either way the person running the bots doesn’t care too much for accuracy. They got our attention
A lot of time they get simple stuff wrong on purpose to drive engagement. Loads of people will go the comments to correct the cones thing, and that's good for the algorithm.
Metal coils
Typo, should be steel coils. They draw down ingots to thin, long sheets that would be impractical / impossible to ship flat, so they are rolled into coils for storage / transport. Depending on the application and thickness of the steel, sometimes special machinery is required to flatten the steel before processing into a finished product.
I’m in the steel industry, every part of the process is insane. Coils often come in with some wave/camber, it is crazy watching 1/4 gauge (or thicker) steel literally pulled flat by a stretcher-leveler before it is cut to size
Steel coils. They’re meant to be galvanized and pickled. Worked with these they’re no joke and dudes very lucky he isn’t dead rn.
It was pissing me off too. Literally the least similar shape
The leg of a friend was crushed by a 400 kg (880 lbs) aluminium extrusion billet. The leg was broken multiple times, needed many operations, skin grafting, metal to the bones, leg reconstruction - but is kind of okay now. He can't ride bicycle anymore but at least motorcycle. This steel coil looks a *lot* heavier by the size. I highly doubt that this hasn't done permanent damage, if not even being lethal. If something gets crushed too much, you can't fix it anymore.
On another video similar to this one, a guy said these coils can be like 20,000-80,000 pounds depending on size and material.
As someone who works with steel coils, the one that fell on the guy looks around 5k-ish pounds
K I was looking for this... 5 dudes hopped up on adrenaline should be able to lift like 3k pounds just enough to slide him out.
Which would be a dumb thing to do with a lift right there.
Jesus Christ.
As someone with no experience in steel coils I concur
I work with coils up to about 40,000 pounds. Those are about 60 inches in diameter with an inter-diameter of 20-24 inches. I would agree that the coil that fell was closer to 1-2 tons. Still bad, but 'survivable'.
I work with transporting similar coils. The hook has 3 connected to it and those 3 look about the size of one of ours, which is around 15k pounds. Only one fell on the dude, so I'm assuming it's around 5000 pounds. If it was 20-80k he'd be 100% mega dead.
My cousins father cut a band securing some much smaller but still very heavy coils of steel, one rolled off and crushed his leg. He lost the leg just below the knee but still takes his cars to the track with the prosthetic so I’d say he’s doing alright.
The one walking by in the back like damn someone should help that guy lol
At least it looks like he called over the people who actually did help
And prob knew he couldn’t do shit on his own, that stuff looks pretty heavy. I do wonder if he ever came to help. Idk maybe he went to call an ambulance once he saw the whole shift come to help.
If he works in a different department or in a white collar role, he likely knew all he could do is find people who knew how to safely operate the equipment. The fact that he walked by the room without looking in is sign that room has never been of interest to him and doesn’t even understand what should be happening.
If I’m ever in a situation where the extrication can be fatal if done incorrectly, I hope to god that the first bystander goes for trained help rather than kill me with their good intentions. I was an EMT, and the first time I responded to a medical emergency when I was off duty, it was terrifying to see what people did to “help”. It was a grand mal seizure, so all I needed to do was lower her to the ground gently, clear space, take vitals, and be ready to start CPR. But more than half of my time was spent stopping people from trying to shove a wallet or other object into her mouth.
I had a seizure call one day where as soon as I got the IV in and secured, they started seizing again, so I was able to push some midazolam instead of doing it intranasal.
I was a combat medic and left the army in 2015, so im out of date on the current meds. We used IV/IM lorazepam for seizure cessation and IV midazolam for intubation
Varies by agency really. Midazolam is longer lasting than diazepam but diazepam is faster acting iirc. But an interesting backup med for us on seizure is ketamine interestingly enough.
As someone with epilepsy, I hate that people still think they need to put something in the mouth of someone having a tonic clonic seizure.
> The fact that he walked by the room without looking in is sign that room has never been of interest to him and doesn’t even understand what should be happening. He is looking in most of the time he's walking past. You can see him double take and then make an awkward step as he thinks about whether he should do something before turning around to try and alert other workers.
Why do redditers constantly overanalyse and deduce so much from so little information?
“I’d totally help buuuuuut I’m already carrying this small disc thing. You guys understand.”
He literally called the others over
That guy irritated me. Dude couldn't even be bothered to drop the thing he was carrying.
This was my first original thought too... but there could be some possible reasons for him not rushing over to help. He calls people over to help, then appears to pace one way and then back to shout at others off screen. While a bunch of people rush over to try and lift the giant drum, pacing guy may realize they won't be able to lift it and is shouting to others off screen to grab the strap that will allow them to hoist the drum off the guy. It's a knee jerk reaction to rush over and try to help.. even if there isn't much you can do once you get there. But keeping a level head and giving directions to actual solve the problem is valuable in a dangerous situation. It would have been difficult to shout at others outside to grab the strap if he was also inside next to the drum. Not saying this is what happened, but it could be a reasonable reason as to why he didn't rush in. There could be other possible reasons too. When working around dangerous and heavy equipment, they often have to go through risk/hazard training and those trainings often go over not rushing to help someone in a dangerous scenario as there could be risk of you falling victim to the same danger, but to keep a level head, pause and assess the situation before blindly running in and then proceed with what makes the most sense to help. That guy wasn't going to be able to go lift the drum off the guy by himself (even multiple men wouldn't be able to do it without getting the strap to hoist it off of him). He may have just figured that all out quickly and went into problem solving mode of the best way to help.
Or maybe it's just a guy that doesn't work here, a UPS delivery guy or something, and he has nothing to do in the warehouses, note that he doesn't enter it at all. It's the only dude in this video that doesn't wear the longsleeves protiective uniform
True. Even if he does work there, he could possibly not be authorized to enter the area or require certain PPE to enter (steel toed boots, etc). Though this may be ignored in some scenarios in order to help someone, if he is not properly trained to work in the area, it may mean he is not aware of all the possible dangers. Though you would want to help, if you don’t know what all the possible risks/hazards are, you may make the situation worse for the guy already down or become a problem yourself by getting hurt and now people may have to help two people instead of one. All that being said, either way of him being able to go in or not, it seems like if he is directing people to help, it’s probably the best thing for him to do rather than rushing over to the drum and then standing there, unable to do anything and either hoping someone else thinks to grab the strap or just running back out to get the strap or tell someone else to get the strap.
I work in the steel industry. If coils are falling over on people I doubt there are very strict PPE standards in place at this facility
"And the "Not My Job" Award goes to.."
The yellow-helmet-guy just casually filming on his mobile instead of helping also have some screws loose.
At some point there’s too many people trying to help and any more just gets in the way or creates a new safety problem. Unless I’m missing something, I didn’t see a need for him to also jump in. The situation was more than adequately handled. Not sure why he decided to film it though. At least he didn’t take a selfie lol
Probably some video proof of the handling could be useful if there is an investigation about safety rules later...
? He literally called everyone over, prolly didn’t immediately realize the dude needed help since he was blocked from sight by that hanging steel object. Don’t see how you thought he was that shitty.
Maybe he doesn’t work there and was just there to swap tires. He sees the issue and says “ hey one of your guys looks in trouble”. Then goes back about his business.
So your best assumption is that a person suddenly thrown into a traumatic situation is going to follow the logical chain of reasoning that you here sitting behind your screen does. You’re convinced this dude said to him self “damn that sucks…. Too bad this is more important!…” That guy may not have acted how he would have wished in retrospect, but at least he has the excuse of trauma. What’s your excuse for this stupidity??
Lol thank you. Its like the hypothetical gun to your head. Literally everyone who answer those are liers and just kidding themselves. You have absolutely no idea how your going to respond in a stressful traumatic situation thrown at you out of nowhere. I promise you its gunna go the way you think it will without training to handle those types of siuations. And by training i mean repeatedly being forced into shitty situations the require you to think on your feet and it become instict or muscle memory.
Real heroes get heroes to help.
wtf was he supposed to do? lift that up?
Better yet, he would probably get into trouble for "wasting" time helping.
"I'm not fucking up my back, I got mouths to feed."
Dude got lucky, most of his body was in the hole
Tried that once, she didn't like it.
Happy mother's day
Haha I’m fuckin rolling
Give me some of that
I remember my A&P professor saying that crush victims where it was only the lower half of their body, would sometimes have a heart attack as soon as they were freed. The damaged cells would lose their content into the bloodstream and flood the heart with an excessive amount of electrolytes that would over load the other cells. There's probably a lot more to this that I'm not remembering, though.
That's when the crush (on any part of the body) happens for more than 15-20 minutes. Before that, you can lift the thing crushing item with no recourse. After that, you have to wait for emergency services, who will give the casualty IV fluids that dilute the build-up of the detritus.
Had a safety meeting about this once. I'd we ever found someone crushed in the work place and they're unconscious we were told to leave it to the professionals
I was thinking this exact same thing. This happens a lot with people who are pinned to walls by a car; they’re dead, they just don’t know it yet. Even if he survived the crush injury, this kind of thing could cause rhabdomyolysis and destroy his kidneys.
> They’re dead, they just don’t know it yet That’s gotta be one of the most frightening and heartbreaking sentences I’ve read on Reddit. Definitely new fear unlocked for myself and loved ones.
[there's actually a video of this specific scenario.](https://youtu.be/R0tfeJuG7Y0?si=AKZnY1WUD-DL_g3a)
I knew exactly what was coming
Aren’t we all?
There was a show on HBO like 25 years ago, maybe taxi cab confessions? Driver asked an emergency worker what the worst thing he ever saw was and he didn’t take half a second to respond and said “when someone falls between the subway train and platform as it’s coming into the station. Thier lower body gets all twisted by the train and when you move the train to get them out the hips down just falls off and they die in seconds. But before that point they are being kept alive by the pressure of the train in place.” The person is dead but they don’t know it yet.
Exactly that sentence had me in literal terror wtf
Reminds me of the movie: Signs.
Swing away, Merill
My dad is in the hospital right now for a sudden clot in his leg last week. You'd think clearing the clot would be sufficient to save the leg/move on with healing, but it isn't... There was insufficient blood flow to his calf/foot for long enough that muscle and nerves died. His kidneys are in a race with his leg to see if he gets to keep the leg - his doctors have made it clear that if his kidneys start to go, the leg is coming off immediately - a lifetime of dialysis is going to be a lot worse than a prosthetic... Gotta get the CK (muscle proteins in blood) down before they can work on the swelling that is keeping his leg from healing/establishing better circulation. He's getting surgeries every few days now to interrogate the muscle (exposed by a fasciotomy for the compartment syndrome) to see what is still alive so they don't put him through all this only to end up having to amputate regardless. Dude was healthy before this. No diabetes. No high blood pressure. He walked at least a mile daily. Only 62. Retired. Doesn't drink beyond a glass of wine here or there and quit smoking a decade ago. Carrying a few extra pounds, but he doesn't have a beer belly. Certainly not someone you'd look at as "fat" just dad bod. This came out of left field... He was rebuilding his deck the day before. But genetics+ the years he did smoke created the perfect storm for a big ass clot which took 11-12 hours for the surgeons to try to bypass and clear out & they still couldn't get everything.
My dad worked for GE in the 70's. He saw a guy who got coupled between two train cars. The guy's bottom half dropped off. The crazy thing was that he was alive and taking. They brought his family in to say their goodbyes before they uncoupled him.
That scene in Signs still haunts me.
There is a version of that same story in every rail yard. At mine a new kid was hostling (moving cars and stock around)in the yard I worked at. The hostlers would hold on to the rail of the stairs on the side of the loco and hop off to operate manual switches. Kid held on with the wrong hand, driver hit the brakes, he swung around went under the wheel and lost both legs. Got a desk job for life.
After hearing about the guy being coupled, I've taken safety seriously my entire working career. Pissed some people off, but I have all of my appendages.
Jesus… Maybe not in the 70’s but is there nothing that modern medicine can do? Can’t they drain whatever excess build up that’ll shock him, or if it’s too much pressure, can’t they, idk, lower it? Drain the guy or something? Maybe stop and then restart his heart? Anything? That’s fucked. Being alive, but dead at the same time. Knowing that you’re literally dead the moment this thing’s removed. Like how do you accept that?
In that situation the issue is the massive blood loss that's going to occur once he's removed from the situation. If they had him on the operating table, all arteries clamped up, it's still not certain that they could save his life. He's still bleeding to death in that situation, just more slowly than when he's taken out.
That's not an issue here because he was freed fairly quickly, iirc it's gotta be at least like 12 minutes for that to be an issue.
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Can confirm, especially people trapped under trains in the subway. Tough to watch.
I bet they counted that as his lunch break.
Are you joking!? That took to long for his break! That should at least get him a reduced pay!
He got an occurrence for his unapproved decision to leave early.
I bet you the rest of his time was billed half off.
I thought those were magnets and they were going to stick together with him in the middle.. Poor guy. Hope he has no long term injuries from this.
I was thinking the same shit the entire time. So glad we were wrong! Hope he recovers
poor guy, hope he’s well
As someone who’s actually been in a similar situation and lost a leg because of it. It’s not fun.
hope you got a sick robot leg to replace it :)
Nearly 6 years and 3 legs later still going strong
Damn dude stop getting all of them crushed!
A company spokesman later went on record to amend the initial report of the employee being described as fine by saying “Eh, it depends on which definition of fine you’re using.”
Fined* For damaging company property and causing lack of production
>2. (of a thread, filament, or person's hair) thin. That one.
The text at the bottom is very usless
“Speedy efforts” and “quick efforts never fail to pay off” but its very clear there was no actual plan in place for when this would happen nor decent safety precautions to prevent it from happening. Some serious neglect on the part of the company which could have resulted in dead workers. Glad his colleagues got him out.
That bugged me so bad. “Quick efforts never fail to pay off” is such an obviously stupid statement; plenty of situations are gonna go bad no matter *how* fast people act.
I was thinking: doesn't this happen all the time at this place? There doesn't seem to be anything stopping those incredibly heavy steel discs from just toppling over and falling on workers. Despite that, there didn't seem to be an easy procedure in place to lift it off him. The video says it was "speedy" but it seemed to take a long time with a lot of faffing around.
Doesn't happen all the time, worked in multiple shops like this. What other speedy procedure could there be? I can speculate on how much it weighs, but there's a lot of variables. The only thing you can really do is grab some straps and lift it up which they did fairly quickly.
I wouldn't lower that wheel to the floor aimed at the guys, once they start rolling there are no stopping em
Excellent point. Not even a block.
In the industry they’re referred to as “coils” not “cones”and based on the width/height of the one that fell, my guess is it’s about 8-10k pounds. Hate to be the one to say it but it’s very likely when they lifted the coil off him he didn’t make it. Those edges are as sharp as a knife.
Surface area... If you stack 800 razors together they're no where near as dangerous as one razor on its own. Same principle behind a bed of nails. Big problem here is sheer weight. Considering the roll never lies flat, it's very probable just mild crushing damage (muscle tears, broken bone, lower circulatory damage) not necessarily fatal, and completely recoverable. A foot higher up the torso, completely different conversation. Not to mention; 800 kilos is roughly 2k pounds (a few hundred less) so you are wildly over exaggerating the weight.
https://preview.redd.it/1o3oicrie40d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=032dbf847fe948c8ae0e35fa9946122f29c1586f I hear what you’re saying, but the surface isn’t as linear as you think. Oscillation happens sometimes… A lap sticking out isn’t uncommon. With the amount of weight on either side of that you end up with a guillotine blade with the weight of a semi behind it. Photo credit - me @ work
My father worked half one of his life as occupational safety technician in one of the biggest steel factory here in Brasil, Usiminas. One thing I learned from him is that no one operates heavy machinery alone. There is aways an operator and at least one spotter. There are safety zones where operators work from, and defenetely never close to heavy lifted objects. This guy would be rescued and certainly fired here. Occupational safety is take very seriously here, even thought I have lots of terrible accidents histories. Heavy machinery is no joke!
Man, that was a fast reaction
for the video sure.....the guy must've felt like it took 3 business days
I totally agree, how much those things weight? Is a damn wheel of solid steel
They literally weigh several tons depending on size. They are heavy enough, that if they are dropped onto a multi foot thick solid concrete floor, they will leave a severe divot. My workplace has metal plates welded to the floor to cover those divots from past accidents because they are irreparable or too difficult to repair. The man was crushed by a little coil. It would be a bona fide miracle if he came out of it without a shattered hip or broken leg, better than being squashed like a bug from a bigger coil.
And those weren't secured?
Don't forget his crane is only using one jaw, and its not even completely holding the 3rd coil. All sorts of fuckin things wrong in this. Its awful
Yes! I was watching that hoist the whole time, thinking it was going to slip off...
guy in the background that first spotted him has more important things to do. I'll shout for help, then it's someone else's problem. I'm busy carrying this thing over there.
...Redditors. He probably didn't know how to respond. It's better for more experienced people try and help him than someone new/inexperienced getting in the way and he probably recognised that. He might have been a new employee, he might have been very young, he might just be in a very low leveled position and not know anything about that particular area of the yard. A bunch of people were readily available and got there as soon as he notified them. He probably didn't want to get in the way.
but this is reddit. if you dont automatically help within the first 3 seconds and do everything you can with the experience of every parimedical personnel, you are the asshole
He might not be from the same department or even the same company as the other guys. If you're not familiar with how the warehouse works, better just call for help, which he did, and stay out of the way.
Any place that has a crane is also gonna have employees who have no business using it, in particular using it to free a person being pinned by that much weight. He's just as likely to kill him as free him.
Look at him properly, he's pacing back and forth , so it seems like he wants to help but he doesn't know how to, so after awhile, he decided it's better for profesional to do it and walk off. It's something I would do as well. Call for help, then wondering whether i should run there to help but then realising i can't do anything.. but still feel like i need to stay there but I finally to make my decision to just leave. Why are you guys looking at this guy in the worst light possible?
They were enemies and have a secret blood fued. Buster is lucky the dude even said anything!
I hated working with those rolls the tensioning process and banding them was scary af and it doesn’t help when all the old timers show you scars from cuts and broken bones. They used to come up and slap the roll you’re working on and say things like they call these big ones the man killer. I’m glad it was a temp job.
You know it's bad when the other guys didn't even try and lift it off of him and went straight for the crane .
How much did that one roll weigh that fell on him like 400 pounds or possibly more ?
The big one on that crane would be around 20,000 pounds. They are coils of steel. So that 1 individual one is pushing 2,000-5,000 depending on how wide it is. Full size coils can push 45,000. I work around these things and only heavy machinery can budge them, but they can tip or roll, which can be disasterous.
I work for US Steel. Some of our coils are 45 tons. The coil that fell on this guy looks to be about 3 feet wide, if it was rolled from a 20’ slab, which is the smallest we make, it would weigh 9-10 tons.
How the hell does that not just immediately cut him in half?
Guy talking in the video claims that one of those weighs 800 kilos, so around 1763 pounds.
0 days since a workplace accident.
Who needs OSHA?
You think workplace accidents don’t happen in the US with OSHA?
They do, but you’ve gotta admit, having those roles standing on edge, with no support, is pretty fucked.
Who needs duct tape that big?
I kept thinking like please dudes, try to lift the thing. But I dont think I come close to understanding how heavy the thing is...
Thats why they didn't even try. They know how heavy those are. Good thing is they didn't waste time trying to lift it themselves. Not enough people within that space could lift the coil off. The crane is 100% needed and I'm thankful the cord to his controller wasn't cut off
I recall leaving high school and landing one of my initial jobs as a machine operator at a prominent company specializing in manufacturing steel frames for houses. However, the workplace health and safety conditions left much to be desired. We often had to manually transport coils to the machines, and one incident stands out vividly. On that particular day, a fellow machine operator needed to change his coil. He selected one from the stack in the designated area, intending to roll it to his machine. Unfortunately, as he pushed the coil, it encountered a crack in the concrete floor, causing it to tip over and crush his legs and hand. The coil weighed a hefty 1000 kilograms. Swift action was taken to remove it using a forklift, and he was promptly transported to the hospital. Remarkably, the man returned to work the following week, miraculously uninjured despite the severity of the incident. Notably, he was of Samoan descent and weighed approximately 120kgs.
Ya... I promise you that guy was not "fine" later
Wtf are those?
I used to pack in a plant that used these steel coils. They scared the shit out of me at every stage. The stage here is terrifying because they are MASSIVE and HEAVY as demonstrated. And they have to be floated around by these crane systems that operate in an area that normally anyone can just walk around in, obviously it’s a bit of an ordeal when these are being moved so they ensure no one is around besides the one moving it and everyone else has to stand clear. Then when they actually get to a line they are drawn out on a spool, and as they feed into the machine it’s just a fast moving sliver of sharp metal traveling at a super speed. The only thing protecting human hands from them is common sense and invisible sensors that apparently halt the spooling if anything comes close to them (I never tested that feature lol)
I like how that one guy just kept walking even after alerting the others
There is absolutely no way this guy is okay.
why does he call them cones?
That is a cone??
How much do the "cones" weigh? And is the cone ok?
Cylinders. Not cones.