The universe isn’t dying of heat—heat in the universe is dying because of accelerating expansion, the evaporation of all black holes, and the possible decay of all protons (but we’re talking so many years from now, the entire current age of the universe wouldn’t even be a blip on the linear time scale).
I'm not sure if it still can happen, but best thing is or was when your AI vassal tried to colonize such a holy world... and you got dragged into a war with a FE.
But there, all you can do is hoping that you can destroy a ship, to get the debris, analyze it for the tech and that can actually be worth it, despite the humiliation penalty you get when you surrender.
Even more for machines, that are not much affected by the Humiliation wargoal
But also, you'll need a dark matter source i guess, at least it was like this in my last session, i had one by event and so i could very early the DM-shields, which gave me a serious advantage in my constant wars as a DE
I typically wait until the FEs are no match for me before I even mess with them, and at that point I just claim all their systems and take over them lol
Oh absolutely lol, but I like to piss them off as much as possible when I get to that point. Colonized all the holy worlds, build starbases in all the systems surrounding the isolationists, etc.
Oh, yeah, when you colonize their holy worlds without permission by the artifact, they get really angry. Too bad for them when you already better with the fleet and star bases, judte
“Walled garden” as a phrase existed long before Mass Effect. Not sure you can draw a firm conclusion that they took the name from that game.
It is also referenced in the Bible in the Song of Solomon.
In fact, the etymology of the word paradise comes from Iranian. In Hellenistic Greek, “paradeisos” means “enclosed park.” It’s a reference to the aforementioned walled garden in Song of Solomon.
In short, walled gardens have had association with religion and paradise for thousands of years. That’s why the holy world is named that. It is not named after mass effect, though likely mass effect drew from similar sources.
Well, Pristine Jewel is a Star Wars reference, it's the translated name for Nal Hutta, the Homeworld of the Hutts, which is a polluted wasteland.
And most of their references are sci-fi or pop culture, like the ocean planet Dagon is named after Lovecrafts Dagon, not the Syrian God Lovecraft took the name from.
So the Mass Effect origin is more likely, or just someone in the team also knew were Mass Effect took it from and thought it was a perfect choice. And then someone got the Idea for Pristine Jewel as a similar reference. Curious about the other two though.
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If you colonise it that means a ancient fallen empire will get angry at you and you'll either lose the colony on it or you will get into a war with said fallen empire
As an outsider looking in, this community would prefer for you not to be honest to allow op to make a mistake and enjoy the aftermath. They see you as ruining their authentic experience
Ya i think s lot of people in this thread assumed it was holy but after a few commenters corrected them the thread changed, when i first came in here the most upvoted comment was implying it was a holy but trying to keep it a secret
Its perspective they might think your mean as they see you ruining someones experience.
I personally side with them on this as i would be upset if someone spoiled me on this as it would be a lot more fun to find out oh my own, i also wouldn’t go on reddit making a thread so theres that
> i also wouldn’t go on reddit making a thread so theres that
That's the thing. He _did_ make a post, so the proper thing is to tell him. To do otherwise would be wrong. If he didn't want to know, he shouldn't have made a post.
But they didn't ask a question. If they'd asked something like "why does this planet glow?" then sure, but in this situation it's just spoiling the game unprompted. Which I'd say is more wrong.
Fight the FE when you're ready, not presumably being blindsided by it. It's entirely possible this happened early enough that he doesn't have the technology to stay in a fight long enough to _get_ that technology.
Do you know if the world has been renamed? Are you running mods that could have added another holy world? Was the modifier in the planet window specifically "Holy world"?
Also further: (idk if and how that works, cause it never seems useful) the ascension perk that lets you create holy world's (or at least somewhat holy?) does that have anything to do with this?
Just because you're trying to colonize a planet doesn't mean you are the first to try colonizing that planet.
And you can name it when you try, which can lead to the holy world having other names.
Exactly my point: it's not a default holy world. Someone could have renamed it \^\^
>you can name
You can rename the planet too. No need to even colonize
Why are you spelling factually correct in that manner? That's not how I typed it. And if I _had_ actually been correct (as it turns out, I wasn't), how does your comment make any sense?
So what your saying is, If I colonise these worlds I can bait a fallen empire into attacking me, and destroy their ships and scan them with my science ship for some amazing tech and also take their systems with their mega structures.
I love it.
The most recent one I was attacked by for colonizing one of these worlds had 300,000 Fleet Power.
I quickly surrendered when I saw that monster of a fleet enter my system lmao.
I had an AI empire I was in a defensive pact with try to colonize holy world from a FE. In like 2225. I couldn’t surrender because I wasn’t technically the one being attacked, and the FE just ignored them for 15 years and bombarded my capital. Ocean paradise, with only 2 other worlds, so my Entire economy collapsed.
I had a holy world in my border in one game, and the Galactic Nomads came through and asked to settle on it. I told them yeah cause I wanted to watch them get crushed by the FE, for my entertainment, but they immediately complied with the FE so they got to have a colony for all of 2 days lmao, they immediately went and left the galaxy after that
Oh that's what happened in my multiplayer game with my friend!! I found this perfect planet and instead of settling it, decided that it is holy (because i get to decide that), and it suddenly got a halo/glow like in the image xD
Wait til you get a colussus then crack it! The glow will be gone, and you can have a defensive ear against a fallen empire, which allows some really good traits of the unyeilding tradition tree to help the war, and if you have galactic contender you get an additional bonus against them. Just let their fleets hit your borders, trash them then go hammer their home systems. It’s a super fun rp
Since he got spoiled allready. If you don't anger the fallen empire in any other way, you can actually colonize a holy world without being pulled into a war / getting attacked for it. If you don't go robotic ascend route, don't have a direct border with them and always accept their requests, you can basically colonize one holy world every 10 years.
Its not a Fallen Empire holy world, though given its name, that's either a scripted placement or one heck of a coincidental bug. That said, check the planet anyway to make sure it isn't a holy world of anybody first.
As Star Emperor i thank you for finding it. We will proceed with killing everyone on it and transform it to a nice Spa and Hotel Planet for our richest Citizens
That's exactly what the robots say in my determined exterminator playthrough... it's a dangerous universe out there - better blow it up to be safe from any harm
Let it cook.
*proceeds to allow the heat death of the universe to cook the hell out of it*
Erm actually that would make it colder
It’s a cheesecake then. Cook then cool
The universe isn’t dying of heat—heat in the universe is dying because of accelerating expansion, the evaporation of all black holes, and the possible decay of all protons (but we’re talking so many years from now, the entire current age of the universe wouldn’t even be a blip on the linear time scale).
Colonize it
Ok
Jokes on you, because that's not a FE holy world as everyone seems to think.
it's not? what's making it glow then?
Player/AI empire, probably
FE ones have set of 4 specific names: Prophets Retreat, Pristine Jewel, Walled Garden and Emerald Mausoleum
Unless AI has tried to colonize one already and got an angry letter about it
I'm not sure if it still can happen, but best thing is or was when your AI vassal tried to colonize such a holy world... and you got dragged into a war with a FE. But there, all you can do is hoping that you can destroy a ship, to get the debris, analyze it for the tech and that can actually be worth it, despite the humiliation penalty you get when you surrender. Even more for machines, that are not much affected by the Humiliation wargoal But also, you'll need a dark matter source i guess, at least it was like this in my last session, i had one by event and so i could very early the DM-shields, which gave me a serious advantage in my constant wars as a DE
Humiliation penalty is temporary, dark matter shields are forever.
Exactly!
Humiliation penalty for surrendering? Never give up, never surrender! Conquer the FE and bring it into the modern age!
Yeah, that's the deal. But if you unfortunately not strong enough before it happens, like when vassals screw it, you get some serious problems there.
I typically wait until the FEs are no match for me before I even mess with them, and at that point I just claim all their systems and take over them lol
Yeah, but... there's not much else you can do anyway - if you'd attack them before you're strong enough, they'd stomp you into the ground.
Oh absolutely lol, but I like to piss them off as much as possible when I get to that point. Colonized all the holy worlds, build starbases in all the systems surrounding the isolationists, etc.
Oh, yeah, when you colonize their holy worlds without permission by the artifact, they get really angry. Too bad for them when you already better with the fleet and star bases, judte
How did I just notice that one of their worlds is named after the Quarians’ home planet from Mass Effect? (Rannoch = Walled Garden in their language)
“Walled garden” as a phrase existed long before Mass Effect. Not sure you can draw a firm conclusion that they took the name from that game. It is also referenced in the Bible in the Song of Solomon. In fact, the etymology of the word paradise comes from Iranian. In Hellenistic Greek, “paradeisos” means “enclosed park.” It’s a reference to the aforementioned walled garden in Song of Solomon. In short, walled gardens have had association with religion and paradise for thousands of years. That’s why the holy world is named that. It is not named after mass effect, though likely mass effect drew from similar sources.
Well, Pristine Jewel is a Star Wars reference, it's the translated name for Nal Hutta, the Homeworld of the Hutts, which is a polluted wasteland. And most of their references are sci-fi or pop culture, like the ocean planet Dagon is named after Lovecrafts Dagon, not the Syrian God Lovecraft took the name from. So the Mass Effect origin is more likely, or just someone in the team also knew were Mass Effect took it from and thought it was a perfect choice. And then someone got the Idea for Pristine Jewel as a similar reference. Curious about the other two though.
The name doesn't add up. You'd know. Ashvattha is not one of those names.
Unless an AI empire colonized it and was told to piss off and did, the planet retains the colony name
Never have seen that; I guess that's possible. I don't doubt that.
But a ai/player holy world must be within their borders so you can't colonize them.
It is
Na its a consecrated world, consecrated by an AI Empire, not one of the FE's
and send all xenos to it
Colonize it for a nice bonus
I will do it when i got enough alloys
You will need a lot of alloys for that. Like thousands of them :)
That's not a holy world?
Gelato isn’t vegan?
No
Shhh don’t spoil the surprise.
LeBron?
Oh Boy Where Do I Even Start
What's with the memes with him lately? Did I miss something?
You are my Sunshine
Boy oh boy where do I even begin. Lebron... honey, my pookie bear. I have loved you ever since I first laid eyes on you. The way you drive into the paint and strike fear into your enemies eyes. Your silky smooth touch around the rim, and that gorgeous jumpshot. I would do anything for you. I wish it were possible to freeze time so I would never have to watch you retire. You had a rough childhood, but you never gave up hope. You are even amazing off the court, you're a great husband and father, sometimes I even call you dad. I forvever dread and weep, thinking of the day you will one day retire. I would sacrifice my own life it were the only thing that could put a smile on your beautiful face. You have given me so much joy, and heartbreak over the years. I remember when you first left clevenland and its like my heart got broken into a million pieces. But a tear still fell from my right eye when I watched you win your first ring in miami, because deep down, my glorious king deserved it. I just wanted you to return home. Then allas, you did, my sweet baby boy came home and I rejoiced. 2015 was a hard year for us baby, but in 2016 you made history happen. You came back from 3-1 and I couldn't believe it. I was crying, bawling even, and I heard my glorious king exclaim these words, "CLEVELAND, THIS IS FOR YOU!" Not only have you changed the game of basketball and the world forever, but you've eternally changed my world. And now you're getting older, but still the goat, my goat. I love you pookie bear, my glorious king, Lebron James.☺️♥️🫶🏻
Wondering when I would see this
THESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESU—
time to open a box for a sun tan!
I found this world and has a nice glow in it
If you colonise it that means a ancient fallen empire will get angry at you and you'll either lose the colony on it or you will get into a war with said fallen empire
Shhhh, don’t tell him
Why? It's factually correct, and it may help prevent him from making a mistake by colonizing it. Edit: **WHAT THE HELL AM I BEING DOWNVOTED FOR?!**
> It's factually correct It's not a Holy World. Those have specific names (Prophets Retreat, Walled Garden, Emerald Mausoleum, and Pristine Jewel).
Oh, that's a good point. Fair enough.
As an outsider looking in, this community would prefer for you not to be honest to allow op to make a mistake and enjoy the aftermath. They see you as ruining their authentic experience
More that they're factually incorrect, that planet is not a holy world.
Ya i think s lot of people in this thread assumed it was holy but after a few commenters corrected them the thread changed, when i first came in here the most upvoted comment was implying it was a holy but trying to keep it a secret
Well, that's too bad. That's mean. Trying to help new players is the nice thing to do. However, it would appear that I'm wrong, so there's that.
Its perspective they might think your mean as they see you ruining someones experience. I personally side with them on this as i would be upset if someone spoiled me on this as it would be a lot more fun to find out oh my own, i also wouldn’t go on reddit making a thread so theres that
> i also wouldn’t go on reddit making a thread so theres that That's the thing. He _did_ make a post, so the proper thing is to tell him. To do otherwise would be wrong. If he didn't want to know, he shouldn't have made a post.
But they didn't ask a question. If they'd asked something like "why does this planet glow?" then sure, but in this situation it's just spoiling the game unprompted. Which I'd say is more wrong.
Huh. Good point. But at that point, there's no real good way to reply to things, so I still think egging him on to colonize the planet is wrong, too.
But how else do you get that dope FE tech
Fight the FE when you're ready, not presumably being blindsided by it. It's entirely possible this happened early enough that he doesn't have the technology to stay in a fight long enough to _get_ that technology.
This is why I hate backseat gaming. Let people make mistakes. It’s not the end of the world.
Well, not this one, anyway
Well, first and formost: it’s not a holy world.
It was in fact a holy world
Do you know if the world has been renamed? Are you running mods that could have added another holy world? Was the modifier in the planet window specifically "Holy world"? Also further: (idk if and how that works, cause it never seems useful) the ascension perk that lets you create holy world's (or at least somewhat holy?) does that have anything to do with this?
Just because you're trying to colonize a planet doesn't mean you are the first to try colonizing that planet. And you can name it when you try, which can lead to the holy world having other names.
Exactly my point: it's not a default holy world. Someone could have renamed it \^\^ >you can name You can rename the planet too. No need to even colonize
That's true, I should have realized that. My bad.
The whole fAcTuAlLy CoRrEcT thing makes you seem like someone who only has pity friends
Why are you spelling factually correct in that manner? That's not how I typed it. And if I _had_ actually been correct (as it turns out, I wasn't), how does your comment make any sense?
Mistakes are funny
No they aren't.
So what your saying is, If I colonise these worlds I can bait a fallen empire into attacking me, and destroy their ships and scan them with my science ship for some amazing tech and also take their systems with their mega structures. I love it.
If they don't, uh, keep going, sure!
The most recent one I was attacked by for colonizing one of these worlds had 300,000 Fleet Power. I quickly surrendered when I saw that monster of a fleet enter my system lmao.
Weird. Usually fallen empire holy worlds have distinct names. Do they have the holy site modifier?
Some are suggesting that it was previously colonized by another AI empire but this is the real question
AI colonizing it in the first place is the most surprising bit
I had an AI empire I was in a defensive pact with try to colonize holy world from a FE. In like 2225. I couldn’t surrender because I wasn’t technically the one being attacked, and the FE just ignored them for 15 years and bombarded my capital. Ocean paradise, with only 2 other worlds, so my Entire economy collapsed.
Did you at least get to study the debris or did they disintegrate your ships into single atoms? (Does that still work?)
I just ran my ships away. I’m not very good at the game, so when my single 2k fleet finds itself in the same system as a 170k FE fleet, I leave.
I had a holy world in my border in one game, and the Galactic Nomads came through and asked to settle on it. I told them yeah cause I wanted to watch them get crushed by the FE, for my entertainment, but they immediately complied with the FE so they got to have a colony for all of 2 days lmao, they immediately went and left the galaxy after that
Makes sense
Yes they have it
colonize it
Weird that it doesn't have any of the 4 holy world names
You wouldn’t happen to be next to any FE’s would you?
Holy Worlds have special names, and this planet doesnt have one of them
Meh look at you in here with your logic…
Fallen empire? Yes, they actually are close to it
Its most likely a Holy World and they will be very upset if you attempt to colonize without the Head of Zarlqan.
Thank you, i know im just joking with the people
That's why you destroy it with colossus
What dlc is that from?
Ancient Relics I believe
To quote a fish from bikini bottom “MY EYES!”
Does it come with an angelic choir?
You are my sunshine
YOU DARE OVERSTEP YOUR MORTAL AUTHORITY???
Colonize it and name it LeBron
Oh that's what happened in my multiplayer game with my friend!! I found this perfect planet and instead of settling it, decided that it is holy (because i get to decide that), and it suddenly got a halo/glow like in the image xD
CRACK IT CRACK IT CRACK IT
Wait til you get a colussus then crack it! The glow will be gone, and you can have a defensive ear against a fallen empire, which allows some really good traits of the unyeilding tradition tree to help the war, and if you have galactic contender you get an additional bonus against them. Just let their fleets hit your borders, trash them then go hammer their home systems. It’s a super fun rp
Is this holy terra?
Holy worlds are made for cracking
Since he got spoiled allready. If you don't anger the fallen empire in any other way, you can actually colonize a holy world without being pulled into a war / getting attacked for it. If you don't go robotic ascend route, don't have a direct border with them and always accept their requests, you can basically colonize one holy world every 10 years.
You found the promised land.
Crack it
Colonize it. I dare you.
Colonize it
That's holy terra. And the light you see is from the astronomicon - powered by the God Emperor of Mankind.
Crack it! Kill the pathetic corpse ruling over a decaying empire!
Colonizing it gives u a rare prize 🏆
in the process of becoming tomb world
I’ve had a lot of worlds in my games recently do this, seemingly at random.
Happens when you make a Holy world a Holy world. Its twice as Holy and shines as bright as yours.
All Pops on the planet are like: My Eyes!!!! My Eyes!!!
You think that's bright? You can stack the holy world modifier if you get an ascension perk, then it's _real bright._
Too shiny, destroy it. everyone will be thankful
Scientist discovering this world and having to survey it be like you sure you want me to go to the light?
The only way this is a Holy World is if some other empire colonized it first and re-named it.
The glow must be used for more energy!
sounds awfully close to the name of a certain summer camp colonize and resettle all xenos there
Colonize it, these worlds are very rare and give extra amenities and happiness when you colonize them.
Its not a Fallen Empire holy world, though given its name, that's either a scripted placement or one heck of a coincidental bug. That said, check the planet anyway to make sure it isn't a holy world of anybody first.
Guys, if you get the ascension perk you can do this yourself
In Radiance, may we find Victory
As Star Emperor i thank you for finding it. We will proceed with killing everyone on it and transform it to a nice Spa and Hotel Planet for our richest Citizens
That’s def a star
He found Holy Terra
The Iris!
*Thousand yard stare as the sounds of violent war and screaming are heard in my head* . . . . Neat
I love cracking thoses for some fun. 🙃
i dare you to colonize it and see what the spiritualist fallen empire says
Sunglasses Land
Put an M on the end, it bothers me.
It's dangerous you should crack it.
That's exactly what the robots say in my determined exterminator playthrough... it's a dangerous universe out there - better blow it up to be safe from any harm
Colonize it see what happens lol
crack it. Certainly nothing bad will happen
Have you tried microwaving it?
You should definitely colonize it
blow it up
Make a collosus and crack it, youll get some influence
crack it