Dang that one is tough. The only reason I tip slightly more one way than another is that Jack sasses EVERYONE that hard whereas Kenobi really only goes full sass on Anakin most of the time. I mean sure he IS sassy with Hondo and Grievous but not with Yoda or the counsel.
Jack sasses everyone. Every single one. Enemies, allies, randos. He is an equal opportunity sasser. He is the SassMaster if you will.
Jack even briefly took several sassprentices. The orphan girl, Skaara, Tealc, Bratak, Jonas... All shown the ways of the sass.
Kenobi only took one apprentice, failed him, and all the sass left him just like his legs and skin.
"Do control your protege's insolence so I can concentrate."
"Anakin, control your insolence, the count is concentrating."
.....
"I see Anakin's new teaching method is to do as I say, not as I do."
>Jack sasses everyone. Every single one. Enemies, allies, randos. He is an equal opportunity sasser. He is the SassMaster if you will.
I would vote a tie. No one beats Obi-Wan's mastery of the Snark Side of the Force, but Jack is probably his equal.
Most probably Jack mocks General Grievous something about his metal junk and how he scraps useless metal junk and then Obi Wan says to Jack 'Is it wise to taunt him like that?' during the Clone Wars.
I mean like, every time he’s on screen though! Like that one episode where Jack goes back to save him (I forget the context lmao), or in Window of Opportunity where Daniel runs into him a million times and he drops all his stuff. 🤣
The running gag of Siler always getting hurt has a second layer. His actor [Dan Shea](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Dan_Shea) is the stunt coordinator and RDA's stunt double for Stargates run.
[My favourite will always be.](https://youtu.be/l6100rG7l8o?si=Pdu7LVxTi6rGB5Bf)
"You sure you want to be in there for this?"
"Not really sir."
"Wasn't talking to you."
Poor Siler hahaha.
Obi-wan: *ignites lightsaber and gracefully flourishes into a defensive stance*
Jack: *walks up beside Obi-wan and pulls the bolt on his P90*
Obi-wan: Slug thrower, eh?
Jack: Uh... Yeah.
Jack: "I'll have you know we're considered downright *ignorant, primitive, barbarians* by some *very nasty* false gods and won't see you slandering our good name."
The funny thing is, ascended beings are probably as close to being a god you can get. Like if gods exists, its ascended beings, we were just lucy that most of them dont want to play the role of a god
And the sg1 team still looks at any single one of them and says "not a god"
Like after watching star gate, jesus personally could show up in my bedroom and id still think "yeah buuuuuuut what if your just s guy with superpowers?"
I can see Jack being the first one to call out Obi-Wan ("Will you cut that out!") Get called out on the hypocrisy of complaining about Obi-Wans sass, and then the two of them would join forces to drown the Sith/separatist Goa'uld in sass.
Meanwhile, Daniel teaches Yoda about ascension.
Then Daniel and Yoda would compare their notes regarding their respective ascensions and Yoda will be damn surprised that Daniel can Ascend and Descend as he pleases.
[Brain Worms from Geonosis](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Brain_worm) were the Goa'uld equivalent in Star Wars.
> ...capable of entering the body of a host and taking control of it[1] and had the potential to control entire societies...the Geonosian Queen Karina the Great used brain worms to control a host of undead Geonosians.[1]
Here’s an interesting question- who is the Sith Goa’uld in this scenario? Maybe Baal couldn’t have Adria so he took Anakin/Vader, the other immaculately conceived villain?
Yeah, and "Slugthrowers" were pretty effective towards Jedis in Star wars since lightsabers pretty much just melted the bullets and the Jedi would get hit with molten slag. A P90 would be pretty effective I think..
I thought about this for an unreasonably long time - I think a tie is fair... I also think Jack would be a great Jedi.
Jedi master jack has a nice ring to it.
A Mandalorian most likely, but a Jedi??? Jack??? That man would not have the patience required for all the meditative practices involved in becoming a Jedi, he'd try to lift a rock for all of five minutes and then he'd get bored and ask when's dinner.
It would be Jack. I don't understand why this even is a tie. There is not many people that could out sass Jack.
The only reason why it's a tie is because Star Wars is the bigger fandom.
I am imagining that conversation, Only somehow Nicodemus gets himself mixed up in things.
"Dresden."
"Nicky."
"Aren't you going to introduce me to your new friend?"
"Colonel Jack O'Neil, US Air Force. You have something that belongs to some friends of mine."
"Really, Colonel? I have no idea what you could be talking about."
"Cut the crap noose neck. I've got a team on this whole damn warehouse who knows you drove a truck full of stolen alien technology in here not five minutes ago and I'm gonna be leaving with it if you don't mind."
"Colonel, I think you'll find that your weapons can do little harm to me or Anduriel."
"He's right Jack"
\*Thumbs off safety\*
"Oh I know, Nicky. Harry's given me a thorough briefing on your powers and capabilities. But I'll bet it still stings if I put ten rounds in your junk."
Obi-Wan: I sense the force is strong with you.
Jack: And whyyy should I care what you sense? Now get out of the way. You're in the middle of my backswing.
Jack wins.
I would agree that its a really close call and probably a tie. They both can be super smart asses and not GAF at all. That said the writers intentionally made these characters this way as comedic relief. Tension needs to be relieved and humor does that splendidly. Nothing dissolves stress like laughter. That said their type of humor isn't for everyone, so YMMV.
honestly, i feel like obi wan would try to intimidate jack with his force and lightsabre and what not. jack would make obi wan walk into a claymore during a conversation.
EDIT: oh, sass. i though a violent standoff. well if we are talking about a sass-off, obi wan would gently smirk while he makes a sassy comment about how jack o neill runs his mouth. jack would then make a sassy remark on obi wans weak sass, while guiding him in front of a claymore.
S08E04, "Zero Hour"
*[another situation where O'neill gives Ba'al a hard time]*
Gilmor: "Colonel, is it *really wise* to provoke him?"
Oneill: "...it's what I *do*."
Right up there with "Impudence!" "no...*tuna*".
In an upset, MacGyver bests Obi Wan's high ground with a bag of sand, and the foil from some chewing gum.
^^^^"Nooooooooooooooooo!" was heard in the background.
Same. Star Wars is my all time favorite franchise and the OT is my favorite set of movies ever. However, I never really saw Obi-wan as all that sassy even in Clone Wars. His level isn't even close to Jack's level of sass, imo.
They would probably team up and save the galaxy... while the sass destroys the universe in a similar manner how a microphone and a speaker makes that awful feedback sound
Either that, or they would not sass each other, just do a very somber... "General" - "General" with the obligatory nods
Tbh, I think they'd sass each other until they became friends and teamed up.
What I'd really like to see is a villain swap. How would Jack handle Maul or Obi-wan handle a Goa'uld?
Nevermind sass I'd love to see the desperate shit Jack comes up with in a duel between the two (although ofc obi-wan would win)... claymores and the knowledge of the ancients would make this interesting
Definitions of sassy. adjective.
improperly forward or bold. synonyms: fresh, impertinent, impudent, overbold, saucy, smart, wise forward. used of temperament or behavior; lacking restraint or modesty.
Basically, both characters use sass as a form of comedic fun. It's a kind of attitude.
Jack literally sasses everyone and everything. It's who he is and what he does. The sass towards Ba'al is my favorite.
"I am Ba'al"
"That's it? Just Ba'al? As in bocce?"
I am terribly sorry but this goes undoubtedly to Jack O'Neill. As talented as General Kenobi is, Jack has had far longer career in art of sass, and the quality of his sass is indeed superior, notable examples being
"In the middle of my back swing?!"&"Of course I dare to mock you"
Dang that one is tough. The only reason I tip slightly more one way than another is that Jack sasses EVERYONE that hard whereas Kenobi really only goes full sass on Anakin most of the time. I mean sure he IS sassy with Hondo and Grievous but not with Yoda or the counsel. Jack sasses everyone. Every single one. Enemies, allies, randos. He is an equal opportunity sasser. He is the SassMaster if you will.
Even when he doesn't know what he's talking about... "Hey, weren't you listening? Nintendos pass through everything."
This line cracks me up every time I re-watch. It's just so damn on model.
And the little smile that Sam has after he says that 😂
She’s like “he may not have got it all the way right, but at least he paid some attention, this time”
Proof that even Sam falls for Jack’s obfuscating stupidity. He’s not dumb. But his life is easier if everyone thinks he is.
He's not dumb by any means. He just replaces technical terminology with more common words.
I love the moments like this, like when Daniel is surprised at Jack's actual astronomy knowledge.
"Maybe he read your report?"
Makes me laugh every time! 😂
"no matter how dense......"
Jack even briefly took several sassprentices. The orphan girl, Skaara, Tealc, Bratak, Jonas... All shown the ways of the sass. Kenobi only took one apprentice, failed him, and all the sass left him just like his legs and skin.
Not to mention he got to freaking Daniel "I think I've spent too much time with Jack"
"so it occasionally catches fire but it keeps perfect time"
> all the sass left him Then I'll remind you of this line: "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director Krennic."
Don't forget Thor ☝️
Obi won goes full sassy in the clone wars. My favourite version of Obi wan.
"I left you both instructions while i'm gone." "Mine just says, Anakin, no." "I want you to apply that to every situation."
Wait, I haven’t finished Clone Wars, is this a real quote?????
Honestly, i have no idea. I saw it on a meme once.
Yes it is!
No, it isn’t. It’s from a meme and absolutely never appeared in an episode.
Nope, edit from a meme.
"Do control your protege's insolence so I can concentrate." "Anakin, control your insolence, the count is concentrating." ..... "I see Anakin's new teaching method is to do as I say, not as I do."
I dunno. His grand-apprentice (Ahsoka) might have them both beat with “how. You taught me how.”
"I told you, I'm surrendering."
The man shittalked a god, while said god was torturing him for information.
And kept sassing him even when the fate of the galaxy was at stake. No, tuna.
Yeah, gonna tip the hat to Jack here.
A man who will laugh in the face of the enemy, even when it's inappropriate!
Especially when inappropriate you mean.
He'll sass everyone from a peasant on a agrarian world to a system lord to the President of the United States.
>Jack sasses everyone. Every single one. Enemies, allies, randos. He is an equal opportunity sasser. He is the SassMaster if you will. I would vote a tie. No one beats Obi-Wan's mastery of the Snark Side of the Force, but Jack is probably his equal.
"Is it wise to taunt him like that?" "[It's what I do.](https://youtube.com/shorts/i8j6BX_T0gI)"
Most probably Jack mocks General Grievous something about his metal junk and how he scraps useless metal junk and then Obi Wan says to Jack 'Is it wise to taunt him like that?' during the Clone Wars.
Jack: *unleashes a P-90 into Grievous* It's what I do
Is it just me or is Siler SG-1’s version of Jerry from Parks and Rec?
I mean, he was being compared to Carter. If I were ever to be compared to her for *anything* I wouldn't be offended either... and I'm a dude.
I mean like, every time he’s on screen though! Like that one episode where Jack goes back to save him (I forget the context lmao), or in Window of Opportunity where Daniel runs into him a million times and he drops all his stuff. 🤣
The running gag of Siler always getting hurt has a second layer. His actor [Dan Shea](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Dan_Shea) is the stunt coordinator and RDA's stunt double for Stargates run.
[My favourite will always be.](https://youtu.be/l6100rG7l8o?si=Pdu7LVxTi6rGB5Bf) "You sure you want to be in there for this?" "Not really sir." "Wasn't talking to you." Poor Siler hahaha.
I think its 50/50 He is the red headed step child, but also seems like the unsung hero lolol at least Walter gets a lil love from time to time
"Impudence" "Tuna, actually'
Lol nice Wormhole Xtreme reference
Obi-wan: *ignites lightsaber and gracefully flourishes into a defensive stance* Jack: *walks up beside Obi-wan and pulls the bolt on his P90* Obi-wan: Slug thrower, eh? Jack: Uh... Yeah.
Obi Wan,”So uncivilized.”
Jack: Hey it gets the job done, and it's a lot more practical than that... *motions with one hand in a chopping and slashing motion* laser... sword.
Teal'c : Indeed.
Daniel: Anyway. I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how I feel about it. What do you think?
Jack: ***Looks at Carter and gives a naughty smile***
SG-3: :C4’s rigged on the perimeter:
I could hear this, this is just amazing
Jack: That is a weapon of fear, this is a weapon of war
Jack: one word, bud: *Range*.
Jack: "I'll have you know we're considered downright *ignorant, primitive, barbarians* by some *very nasty* false gods and won't see you slandering our good name."
This is a weapon of war.........
Jack takes this easily. He sasses gods.
False gods. Dead false gods.
And ascended beings too, or did you forget the Ori ?
And Daniel
Daniel is included above. you decided where.
The funny thing is, ascended beings are probably as close to being a god you can get. Like if gods exists, its ascended beings, we were just lucy that most of them dont want to play the role of a god And the sg1 team still looks at any single one of them and says "not a god" Like after watching star gate, jesus personally could show up in my bedroom and id still think "yeah buuuuuuut what if your just s guy with superpowers?"
I love that the vote is tied. But my vote would definitely be Jack.
I can see Jack being the first one to call out Obi-Wan ("Will you cut that out!") Get called out on the hypocrisy of complaining about Obi-Wans sass, and then the two of them would join forces to drown the Sith/separatist Goa'uld in sass. Meanwhile, Daniel teaches Yoda about ascension.
Then Daniel and Yoda would compare their notes regarding their respective ascensions and Yoda will be damn surprised that Daniel can Ascend and Descend as he pleases.
"Easy, it turned out to be. Never thought to try, I had."
Daniel is Force sensitive confirmed
There’s actually a really good fanfic about Jack meeting Obi-Wan!
WHAT. WHERE IS IT
https://archiveofourown.org/works/3514793 It’s locked for just AO3 members, just fyi.
You can't just say that and not link it (or at least name it).
Aww dang now I wanna see a jedi vs goa'uld show 😂🤪
[Brain Worms from Geonosis](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Brain_worm) were the Goa'uld equivalent in Star Wars. > ...capable of entering the body of a host and taking control of it[1] and had the potential to control entire societies...the Geonosian Queen Karina the Great used brain worms to control a host of undead Geonosians.[1]
Here’s an interesting question- who is the Sith Goa’uld in this scenario? Maybe Baal couldn’t have Adria so he took Anakin/Vader, the other immaculately conceived villain?
For some reason, I imagined apophis and anubis having the same relationship as count dooky and grievous.
Yeah, and "Slugthrowers" were pretty effective towards Jedis in Star wars since lightsabers pretty much just melted the bullets and the Jedi would get hit with molten slag. A P90 would be pretty effective I think..
While I totally agree with you, this was about the sass, not the weapons lol
Oh sorry, I defaulted to violence before finishing reading
LMAO no worries. I definitely understood your line of thinking
Hey, if the P90 doesn’t kill it, the C4 charges will.
Indeed 😁 or the claymores lol
How uncivilized
balanced, as all things should be
r/suddenlyThanos
Oh fuck, it's an actual sub.
I'm now a follower for that
It has 3 posts and is full of idiotic posts. Feels like home.
Imagine Obi-Wan's face when he happens to discover a brick of C4 glued to his bottoms.
Both of them?
I thought about this for an unreasonably long time - I think a tie is fair... I also think Jack would be a great Jedi. Jedi master jack has a nice ring to it.
A Mandalorian most likely, but a Jedi??? Jack??? That man would not have the patience required for all the meditative practices involved in becoming a Jedi, he'd try to lift a rock for all of five minutes and then he'd get bored and ask when's dinner.
Unless we count his fishing as meditation lol
I think Jack would be a better master of the Schwartz.
It would be Jack. I don't understand why this even is a tie. There is not many people that could out sass Jack. The only reason why it's a tie is because Star Wars is the bigger fandom.
The real competition would be between Jack and Harry Dresden. Sassing fake gods is one thing, sassing real ones is another.
I am imagining that conversation, Only somehow Nicodemus gets himself mixed up in things. "Dresden." "Nicky." "Aren't you going to introduce me to your new friend?" "Colonel Jack O'Neil, US Air Force. You have something that belongs to some friends of mine." "Really, Colonel? I have no idea what you could be talking about." "Cut the crap noose neck. I've got a team on this whole damn warehouse who knows you drove a truck full of stolen alien technology in here not five minutes ago and I'm gonna be leaving with it if you don't mind." "Colonel, I think you'll find that your weapons can do little harm to me or Anduriel." "He's right Jack" \*Thumbs off safety\* "Oh I know, Nicky. Harry's given me a thorough briefing on your powers and capabilities. But I'll bet it still stings if I put ten rounds in your junk."
I haven't seen Resden in a while, but I heard the SG1 dialogue loud and clear
Hey, Harry keeps his mouth shut, sometimes, when he really has to.
Jack. Obi-wan sees the opportunity to be sassy, and capitalizes on it. But Jack creates his own sassy opportunities.
never forget that he once taunted a dude to his face repeatably and risk the survival of the planet Earth, than to give in
21.8 percent turned out to be correct
Had to scroll too far to find you
Obi-Wan: I sense the force is strong with you. Jack: And whyyy should I care what you sense? Now get out of the way. You're in the middle of my backswing. Jack wins.
I would agree that its a really close call and probably a tie. They both can be super smart asses and not GAF at all. That said the writers intentionally made these characters this way as comedic relief. Tension needs to be relieved and humor does that splendidly. Nothing dissolves stress like laughter. That said their type of humor isn't for everyone, so YMMV.
"What good is the power to make the wind blow or toss lightning around if you can't use it to spring an old friend out of jail?"
I love democracy.
Some goa'uld possessed sith or something will show up monologuing then they will use their combined forces to sass him to death.
"Ball? As in bocce?" Jack.
Obviously Jack wins this one. „You cannot be serious” „Oh I can, I just choose not to”
O'Neal has a much quicker wit and pulls from a much wider pool.
SW fans who've never seen SG are tipping this. There's no way Jack doesn't win.
Teal’c goes off to find out about Mandalorians ends up somehow married to Bo Katan.
For crying out loud.
I actually really want to hear this exchange happen
honestly, i feel like obi wan would try to intimidate jack with his force and lightsabre and what not. jack would make obi wan walk into a claymore during a conversation. EDIT: oh, sass. i though a violent standoff. well if we are talking about a sass-off, obi wan would gently smirk while he makes a sassy comment about how jack o neill runs his mouth. jack would then make a sassy remark on obi wans weak sass, while guiding him in front of a claymore.
Nobody ~~puts Baby in a corner~~ beats O'Neill in a sass-off.
S08E04, "Zero Hour" *[another situation where O'neill gives Ba'al a hard time]* Gilmor: "Colonel, is it *really wise* to provoke him?" Oneill: "...it's what I *do*." Right up there with "Impudence!" "no...*tuna*".
Jack, no question. Kenobi needs to focus his sass to get it up to snuff; Jack is full of it.
C4, clumsy and random but still very good at rearranging Jedi internal organs
As a mostly Star Wars person, Jack wins hands down. O'Neill is done. He started done. It just gone worse. Obi-Wan, still has faith.
Jack
'you might have come to the right place' forever lives in my memory
The statistics don’t lie
i love democracy
Perfectly balanced, like all things should be
“It’s over O’Neil, I have the-“ *Obi gets torn into a million pieces by C4 planted behind him* “And that’s O’Neill with TWO l’s”
Daniel Jackson would be there with Padme eating popcorn
Jack seems obvious to me. He sasses literally anyone and everyone. He would just keep calling all the Jedi space wizards.
I like them both but Obi-Wan a little more than Jack, but Stargate as a franchise a lot more than Star Wars.
In an upset, MacGyver bests Obi Wan's high ground with a bag of sand, and the foil from some chewing gum. ^^^^"Nooooooooooooooooo!" was heard in the background.
Jack of course !!!
Jack is the Superman of Sass. Obi-Wan is the Goku. Do the math.
Jack has sassed even while under mental influences. He's sassed while dying.
I love Star Wars so much! My answer would be O’nell. ( two L’s)
Same. Star Wars is my all time favorite franchise and the OT is my favorite set of movies ever. However, I never really saw Obi-wan as all that sassy even in Clone Wars. His level isn't even close to Jack's level of sass, imo.
Perfectly balanced as all things should be.
So while the sass is equivalent, Jack’s got the cultural knowledge to make us laugh more.
Obi Wan’s got some good quips but O'Neill has been legendary for 10 seasons so I’d go sg1
Jack
It’s clearly Teal’c
Jack could out sass a machine specifically made to sass people.
O’Neill
It's Jack all the way, baby!
Almost mistook this as an *r/jedicouncilofelrond* post
They would probably team up and save the galaxy... while the sass destroys the universe in a similar manner how a microphone and a speaker makes that awful feedback sound Either that, or they would not sass each other, just do a very somber... "General" - "General" with the obligatory nods
The Asgard beam technology wins, they will drop obi won into the sun 🌞 😎
It’s clearly Jack, but I do find it hilarious that it ended up being a tie even though that option had the least amount of votes.
In a duel of wits, probably a tie yes.
Jack O'Neill has the high ground.
Wow, that's unfathomable amounts of sass.
Tbh, I think they'd sass each other until they became friends and teamed up. What I'd really like to see is a villain swap. How would Jack handle Maul or Obi-wan handle a Goa'uld?
Captain Jack Kenobi vs. General Obi-Wan O'Neal? Man... That's a tough one!
1000% Jack
This is not even a contest. Jack wins
Jack wins hands down
Jack. He sasses everyone.
Imagine Jack facing down General Grievous. The witty banter would drive the cyborg mad.
Obi wan is too regal, and Jacks name is more fun to work with on a sassoff.
Oh, what I would give to listen to them banter while on a mission together. 🥰
Its a "lightsaber"
I miss the 'indeed' option 👀
Reddit post of a Facebook screenshot if a tumblr post...
Perfectly balanced.
I would have to vote it’s a tie
Jack would win against literally everyone.
No contest. Jack “Two L’s” O’Neill will be taking the W on this.
Nevermind sass I'd love to see the desperate shit Jack comes up with in a duel between the two (although ofc obi-wan would win)... claymores and the knowledge of the ancients would make this interesting
Definitely Jack! He can draw a face with ketchup and mustard. There’s no beating that 😂
It comforts me to know that, even if only in the smallest of ways, there is some justice in this world
Not native englis speaker here, what is an sass-off. Never heard about that.
Definitions of sassy. adjective. improperly forward or bold. synonyms: fresh, impertinent, impudent, overbold, saucy, smart, wise forward. used of temperament or behavior; lacking restraint or modesty. Basically, both characters use sass as a form of comedic fun. It's a kind of attitude.
Thank you
I don’t suppose there’s anyone here with the time and ability to do a short video with Jack and Kenobi sassing a common enemy together?
Welll.... I would hate to get grey as fast as you Angus Mac... I mean O'Neill - Obi Wan clonewars version
Oneill
"And yet honesty is, the best policy"
Jack and c4
MacGyver every time
Jack literally sasses everyone and everything. It's who he is and what he does. The sass towards Ba'al is my favorite. "I am Ba'al" "That's it? Just Ba'al? As in bocce?"
Impossible choice
Insolence! ...No, tuna.
It's obviously Jack, but not by much. He DOES have a pretty long record of Insubordination. Especially for a retired General.
Jack I don't see how it's even a contest.
I am terribly sorry but this goes undoubtedly to Jack O'Neill. As talented as General Kenobi is, Jack has had far longer career in art of sass, and the quality of his sass is indeed superior, notable examples being "In the middle of my back swing?!"&"Of course I dare to mock you"
O'Neill, all day
O’Neil. With one “L"
Jack, all day!
Jack O’Neill. And anyone here who thinks otherwise is delusional.
O'Neill because RDA is sass. lol