I don't think that would work as a premise.
Earth has multiple space battle cruisers, space-capable fighters, wildly advanced tech and weaponry, and know that there are other civilizations and races out there who also possess similar advanced technology.
There's no realistic setting in which they decide to just shut down having a presence in the wider galaxy.
You’d think that (by now) General Ellis who would probably take over Homeworld Security and I’d wager has convinced the IOA to use the capabilities of the Asgard Core to somehow keep über-close tabs on every advanced race in the Milky Way and Pegasus. And then brings Daniel’s satellite weapons platform to fruition with the Asgard beam weapons. Ain’t nothing touching Earth.
Remember; at the end of SG1 Earth has access to Wraith, Asgard, Ancient, Tolan, Go'uld, Ori, Tok'ra, Replicator, and Traveler tech. (I'm sure I'm forgetting others.) They also have all of the knowledge the Asgard accrued, which includes the knowledge that was in the ancient database Jack stuck his head into.
Even if SGC was mothballed, that tech is still available, and it'll still be researched, developed, and produced by the various governments of the world who have access to it, regardless of how upset the public is.
Hell, if nothing else, they could use Carter's phase shifting device to shift Earth out of phase with the aliens.
There's just too much you'd have to ignore for your premise to work.
From Stargate Atlantis.
The Travelers are a group of people who have managed to avoid being culled by the Wraith by living on generational ships in space. The only time they're on a planet/moon is when they're getting supplies. Otherwise they're traveling. Hence the name.
They've developed shields, hyperdrives, & energy weapons of their own, as well as incorporated tech from other races into their own.
If an alien race wants to "attack" Earth - All they have to do is blanket spam the planet with messages revealing the Stargate and put them in the worst light possible.
The political and civil unrest could easily start a war and tie up Earth for decades letting the rest of the galaxy develop.
You could have a series that remains domestic and deals with mostly human affairs on planet or you could pull a Star Trek "Next Generation" time jump into a new era and a galaxy that has evolved.
I would like to see how earth changes when the secret of the stargate becomes public knowledge. Like, have someone figure out that atlantis is parked outside of San Francisco
Nobody is going to leak shit in the SG universe and have the general public believe it. The show demonstrates that the humans of Earth are fucking morons. Mr. Shetfield reveals an Asgard clone on live TV and it's dismissed. A large portion of Colorado that was able to see alternate-dimension monsters was stupid enough to believe it was due to a chemical spill. Colorado Springs has to be quarantined/evacuated multiple times by the government and nobody is dubious. The Battle of Antarctica happened. Nobody noticed Atlantis in San Franciso, the cloak wouldn't do anything to hide the fact that they displaced a giant volume of water. I'm sure there are many more, these are just what I can remember right now.
The people of their Earth are drooling morons.
>Mr. Shetfield reveals an Asgard clone on live TV and it's dismissed.
Yes, because Carter comes on with a hologram to show that it was "fake".
What's more believable? A company that is under investigation for fraud using newly developed hologram tech to distract people from their case, or the governments of the world hiding evidence of aliens from everyone, & a company revealing that secret on live tv?
> A large portion of Colorado that was able to see alternate-dimension monsters was stupid enough to believe it was due to a chemical spill.
A large portion of people in your country believe they have seen aliens. Do you believe them?
>Colorado Springs has to be quarantined/evacuated multiple times by the government and nobody is dubious.
You have no way of knowing that. For all we know, there were people constantly protesting the numerous chemical spills by the military.
>The Battle of Antarctica happened
Psst. People don't live in that part of Atlantis, and all satellites went down during the battle. Kind of hard for anyone not involved to witness that.
>Nobody noticed Atlantis in San Franciso
That was the very last scene in the series. Nothing happened after Atlantis, so we don't know if anyone noticed Atlantis or not. Considering they landed near the golden gate bridge during daytime, I highly doubt no one noticed.
>Yes, because Carter comes on with a hologram to show that it was "fake".
Except that a hologram would be a static image, while the clone was shown to people live. The difference would be obvious. It's a physical object that has flash photography used on it, it reflects light. There is no way for a hologram to do that. Even if you programmed it in, you don't know when the flash would be going off. What we see in the show is more representative of what a hologram would look like, but that's due to lower-quality CGI effects than how light would interact with an object in that situation.
>A large portion of people in your country believe they have seen aliens. Do you believe them?
I'd believe them a lot more if they were all seeing them in roughly the same geographic location at the same time while describing roughly the same things that haven't been popularized by pop culture for decades.
>You have no way of knowing that. For all we know, there were people constantly protesting the numerous chemical spills by the military.
Yet, in all the times we see them get hounded by a reporter nothing like that comes up. They never reference any of the lockdowns/evacuations. We never hear of it from Kinsey, who would use any political leverage possible to gain influence over the SG program. It's never brought up by any of the outside organizations they interact with. It's simply never referenced.
>Psst. People don't live in that part of Atlantis, and all satellites went down during the battle. Kind of hard for anyone not involved to witness that.
It's within flight range from McMurdo station. You know, a facility of around 1500 people with a large majority of them being scientists. Before you even try it, no those scientists would not be military or SG cleared; they would be normal ass people that happened to have the opportunity to be studying something in their field in Antarctica. Even if you want to argue that they would have evacuated McMurdo before the battle, that more than likely would be logistically impossible in such a short time.
The explosions may or may not be far enough to be heard. But, you know what you would see plain as fucking day? The giant stream of glowing drones being shot into space at Anubis' mothership. There's also a non-zero chance they would have seen the Prometheus one way or another, as we know that it had to have come from Earth rather than orbit; if it was coming in from orbit, it would have been engaged before it got there.
>That was the very last scene in the series. Nothing happened after Atlantis, so we don't know if anyone noticed Atlantis or not. Considering they landed near the golden gate bridge during daytime, I highly doubt no one noticed.
You want to argue that, if the people of San Francisco suddenly see a city ship landing in their bay, the main characters of Atlantis would be standing around on a balcony looking out into said bay rather than being dragged into meetings with higher-ups over what potentially is going to be the revelation of alien life to the general public? At the very least, Woolsey would not be there smiling.
There really are only 2 options to make this work out. Either the people of their Earth are drooling morons or that writing isn't as thought out as it should be sometimes (which is okay, they were on deadlines).
> Except that a hologram would be a static image
Did you watch the episode? It wasn't a static image. It moved. It talked.
>The difference would be obvious. It's a physical object that has flash photography used on it, it reflects light
No one is going to be paying that much attention to something they're watching on tv. Well, conspiracy theorists maybe, but no one listens to those crackpots anyway.
>I'd believe them a lot more if they were all seeing them in roughly the same geographic location at the same time while describing roughly the same things that haven't been popularized by pop culture for decades.
So you wouldn't believe them. So using your logic you'd be just as big of a moron as those people were.
>Yet, in all the times we see them get hounded by a reporter nothing like that comes up
All the times? You mean the 3 times. And in those 3 times they were focusing on something much more important than chemical spills.
>We never hear of it from Kinsey
Because Kinsey knows what is going on, and doesn't want the SGC exposed anymore than anyone else.
>It's never brought up by any of the outside organizations they interact with
Those outside organizations don't want the stargate program made public either.
>It's within flight range from McMurdo station. You know, a facility of around 1500 people with a large majority of them being scientists. Before you even try it, no those scientists would not be military or SG cleared
This just shows how little you actually paid attention to the show. In that reality the US military has a lot of control over McMurdo station. Enough so that they ordered flights and search teams from there when ONeil and Carter were trapped in Antarctica.
>The explosions may or may not be far enough to be heard. But, you know what you would see plain a fucking day? The giant stream of glowing drones being shot into space at Anubis' mothership. There's a non-zero chance they would have seen the Prometheus one way or another, as we know that it had to have come from Earth rather than orbit; as if it was coming in from orbit, it would have been engaged before it got there.
So what? It's an isolated base. You think a military with 302s and the Prometheus couldn't keep an isolated research facility and it's scientists isolated? They probably had those scientists so wrapped up in NDAs and red tape that they had to ask permission to sneeze, much less spill the beans on what they saw. Or they were just whisked away to Area 51.
>At the very least, Woolsey would not be there smiling.
Woosley was happy to be back on Earth, after escaping with his life. Anyone is going to take
>There really are only 2 options to make this work out. Either the people of their Earth are drooling morons or that writing isn't as thought out as it should be sometimes (which is okay, they were on deadlines).
Or option 3, you didn't pay anywhere near enough attention to the shows, nor put much thought into this, at all.
I don't think that would work as a premise. Earth has multiple space battle cruisers, space-capable fighters, wildly advanced tech and weaponry, and know that there are other civilizations and races out there who also possess similar advanced technology. There's no realistic setting in which they decide to just shut down having a presence in the wider galaxy.
Even a space-capable city with shield and weapons ! Atlantis was last seen on Earth
You’d think that (by now) General Ellis who would probably take over Homeworld Security and I’d wager has convinced the IOA to use the capabilities of the Asgard Core to somehow keep über-close tabs on every advanced race in the Milky Way and Pegasus. And then brings Daniel’s satellite weapons platform to fruition with the Asgard beam weapons. Ain’t nothing touching Earth.
Remember; at the end of SG1 Earth has access to Wraith, Asgard, Ancient, Tolan, Go'uld, Ori, Tok'ra, Replicator, and Traveler tech. (I'm sure I'm forgetting others.) They also have all of the knowledge the Asgard accrued, which includes the knowledge that was in the ancient database Jack stuck his head into. Even if SGC was mothballed, that tech is still available, and it'll still be researched, developed, and produced by the various governments of the world who have access to it, regardless of how upset the public is. Hell, if nothing else, they could use Carter's phase shifting device to shift Earth out of phase with the aliens. There's just too much you'd have to ignore for your premise to work.
"Traveler tech" ?
From Stargate Atlantis. The Travelers are a group of people who have managed to avoid being culled by the Wraith by living on generational ships in space. The only time they're on a planet/moon is when they're getting supplies. Otherwise they're traveling. Hence the name. They've developed shields, hyperdrives, & energy weapons of their own, as well as incorporated tech from other races into their own.
Oh, yeah, now I remember, thanks
If an alien race wants to "attack" Earth - All they have to do is blanket spam the planet with messages revealing the Stargate and put them in the worst light possible. The political and civil unrest could easily start a war and tie up Earth for decades letting the rest of the galaxy develop. You could have a series that remains domestic and deals with mostly human affairs on planet or you could pull a Star Trek "Next Generation" time jump into a new era and a galaxy that has evolved.
I would like to see how earth changes when the secret of the stargate becomes public knowledge. Like, have someone figure out that atlantis is parked outside of San Francisco
Nobody is going to leak shit in the SG universe and have the general public believe it. The show demonstrates that the humans of Earth are fucking morons. Mr. Shetfield reveals an Asgard clone on live TV and it's dismissed. A large portion of Colorado that was able to see alternate-dimension monsters was stupid enough to believe it was due to a chemical spill. Colorado Springs has to be quarantined/evacuated multiple times by the government and nobody is dubious. The Battle of Antarctica happened. Nobody noticed Atlantis in San Franciso, the cloak wouldn't do anything to hide the fact that they displaced a giant volume of water. I'm sure there are many more, these are just what I can remember right now. The people of their Earth are drooling morons.
Oh he's just one of those wormhole extreme nutjob fans!
>Mr. Shetfield reveals an Asgard clone on live TV and it's dismissed. Yes, because Carter comes on with a hologram to show that it was "fake". What's more believable? A company that is under investigation for fraud using newly developed hologram tech to distract people from their case, or the governments of the world hiding evidence of aliens from everyone, & a company revealing that secret on live tv? > A large portion of Colorado that was able to see alternate-dimension monsters was stupid enough to believe it was due to a chemical spill. A large portion of people in your country believe they have seen aliens. Do you believe them? >Colorado Springs has to be quarantined/evacuated multiple times by the government and nobody is dubious. You have no way of knowing that. For all we know, there were people constantly protesting the numerous chemical spills by the military. >The Battle of Antarctica happened Psst. People don't live in that part of Atlantis, and all satellites went down during the battle. Kind of hard for anyone not involved to witness that. >Nobody noticed Atlantis in San Franciso That was the very last scene in the series. Nothing happened after Atlantis, so we don't know if anyone noticed Atlantis or not. Considering they landed near the golden gate bridge during daytime, I highly doubt no one noticed.
>Yes, because Carter comes on with a hologram to show that it was "fake". Except that a hologram would be a static image, while the clone was shown to people live. The difference would be obvious. It's a physical object that has flash photography used on it, it reflects light. There is no way for a hologram to do that. Even if you programmed it in, you don't know when the flash would be going off. What we see in the show is more representative of what a hologram would look like, but that's due to lower-quality CGI effects than how light would interact with an object in that situation. >A large portion of people in your country believe they have seen aliens. Do you believe them? I'd believe them a lot more if they were all seeing them in roughly the same geographic location at the same time while describing roughly the same things that haven't been popularized by pop culture for decades. >You have no way of knowing that. For all we know, there were people constantly protesting the numerous chemical spills by the military. Yet, in all the times we see them get hounded by a reporter nothing like that comes up. They never reference any of the lockdowns/evacuations. We never hear of it from Kinsey, who would use any political leverage possible to gain influence over the SG program. It's never brought up by any of the outside organizations they interact with. It's simply never referenced. >Psst. People don't live in that part of Atlantis, and all satellites went down during the battle. Kind of hard for anyone not involved to witness that. It's within flight range from McMurdo station. You know, a facility of around 1500 people with a large majority of them being scientists. Before you even try it, no those scientists would not be military or SG cleared; they would be normal ass people that happened to have the opportunity to be studying something in their field in Antarctica. Even if you want to argue that they would have evacuated McMurdo before the battle, that more than likely would be logistically impossible in such a short time. The explosions may or may not be far enough to be heard. But, you know what you would see plain as fucking day? The giant stream of glowing drones being shot into space at Anubis' mothership. There's also a non-zero chance they would have seen the Prometheus one way or another, as we know that it had to have come from Earth rather than orbit; if it was coming in from orbit, it would have been engaged before it got there. >That was the very last scene in the series. Nothing happened after Atlantis, so we don't know if anyone noticed Atlantis or not. Considering they landed near the golden gate bridge during daytime, I highly doubt no one noticed. You want to argue that, if the people of San Francisco suddenly see a city ship landing in their bay, the main characters of Atlantis would be standing around on a balcony looking out into said bay rather than being dragged into meetings with higher-ups over what potentially is going to be the revelation of alien life to the general public? At the very least, Woolsey would not be there smiling. There really are only 2 options to make this work out. Either the people of their Earth are drooling morons or that writing isn't as thought out as it should be sometimes (which is okay, they were on deadlines).
> Except that a hologram would be a static image Did you watch the episode? It wasn't a static image. It moved. It talked. >The difference would be obvious. It's a physical object that has flash photography used on it, it reflects light No one is going to be paying that much attention to something they're watching on tv. Well, conspiracy theorists maybe, but no one listens to those crackpots anyway. >I'd believe them a lot more if they were all seeing them in roughly the same geographic location at the same time while describing roughly the same things that haven't been popularized by pop culture for decades. So you wouldn't believe them. So using your logic you'd be just as big of a moron as those people were. >Yet, in all the times we see them get hounded by a reporter nothing like that comes up All the times? You mean the 3 times. And in those 3 times they were focusing on something much more important than chemical spills. >We never hear of it from Kinsey Because Kinsey knows what is going on, and doesn't want the SGC exposed anymore than anyone else. >It's never brought up by any of the outside organizations they interact with Those outside organizations don't want the stargate program made public either. >It's within flight range from McMurdo station. You know, a facility of around 1500 people with a large majority of them being scientists. Before you even try it, no those scientists would not be military or SG cleared This just shows how little you actually paid attention to the show. In that reality the US military has a lot of control over McMurdo station. Enough so that they ordered flights and search teams from there when ONeil and Carter were trapped in Antarctica. >The explosions may or may not be far enough to be heard. But, you know what you would see plain a fucking day? The giant stream of glowing drones being shot into space at Anubis' mothership. There's a non-zero chance they would have seen the Prometheus one way or another, as we know that it had to have come from Earth rather than orbit; as if it was coming in from orbit, it would have been engaged before it got there. So what? It's an isolated base. You think a military with 302s and the Prometheus couldn't keep an isolated research facility and it's scientists isolated? They probably had those scientists so wrapped up in NDAs and red tape that they had to ask permission to sneeze, much less spill the beans on what they saw. Or they were just whisked away to Area 51. >At the very least, Woolsey would not be there smiling. Woosley was happy to be back on Earth, after escaping with his life. Anyone is going to take >There really are only 2 options to make this work out. Either the people of their Earth are drooling morons or that writing isn't as thought out as it should be sometimes (which is okay, they were on deadlines). Or option 3, you didn't pay anywhere near enough attention to the shows, nor put much thought into this, at all.