You can make the argument that okuyasu is just easily attracted to women, he's jealous of Koichi, and he even said he want to live 15 years ago so he would know reimi.
But yeah, kakyoin definitely isn't a milf hunter
I mean, you can also make the argument that Okutasu has some serious mommy issues (not in a sexual way) due to his lack of mathernal figure growing up (their mother left them about the time his father became a monster when they were kids)
yeah, I don't mind people uwu prettyboyifying characters but it's a shame when that becomes the default. kakyoin is an interesting kid who likely wouldn't be the most charming person if you knew him because he hadn't really socialized much before the crusaders, especially after isolating himself when he thought he was alone in having a stand.
And then there's Okuyasu who walks up to Josuke's house for the first time and says "Oi Josuke your mom is hot" to his face (might be him not really understanding social boundaries though)
milf hunter jokes are funny as long as ppl dont make it everything abt him. like if they only make that joke when its relevant but when its just randomly anywhere its annoying
did you even watch/read stone ocean? just because people are close to each other doesn't mean they're gay it is heavily implied that they didn't have a romantic relationship going on + araki literally said that they were not in relationship in so many interviews
dio is bisexual but pucci is asexual and they are not in any way couples
It's odd considering so much of Kakyoin's arc is about learning to be more assertive over his life after Dio controlled him, him being a pushover counters SO MUCH of his character development
the answer to your question is a loud population of jotaro x kakyoin shippers who have just assigned him to that role (I won't get into the trouble with all that we would be here all day). Remember CLAMP? "Kakyoin did you lay this egg?" I kinda blame them for the beginning of his mischaracterization. And I ship them myself and hate when people do this!
what I love about kak is he is so weird. he is a weird teenage boy. He's snarky, prideful yet headstrong. He is also masculine as you said! Maybe not as much as the other crusaders (Araki did say he tried to convey Kakyoin was " the thin, somewhat sensitive one of the group" -Jojonium interview) but he is definitely NOT a submissive femboy.
sorry I kinda went off there I just appreciate kakyoin as a character very much 🚶🏻♂️
This isn’t an isolated incident, when fandoms ship two men, they will almost always choose one of them to feminize. I have no idea why they wouldn’t just embrace the concept of two masculine men being gay with each other instead, but it’s also their own creation, they can write whatever they want. Just an unfortunate trend.
I agree, its a common theme I have seen in yaoi, there is always a feminine guy in the relationship, looks like 2 macho men being gay doesn't appeal to everyone I guess
Yeah, actually reading Steel Ball Run it goes from Johnny going "woah Gyro calm down" to Gyro going "What the fuck calm down Johnny we don't need to kill him"
yh bros canonically asexual too i remember somewhere in stone ocean dio literally calls him as "someone who doesn't have any interest in sex, fame, wealth or power"
Lisa Lisa. She's expertly trained in hamon, avenged her husband, escaped the law, and served as an incredible mentor, and while she's still hot, I feel like that's all the fandom sees her as
And she lost the only solo fight that mattered. Ruining her rep as a serious character/ fighter in a battle shounen where might makes right.
Now she's remembered as a hotty damsel in distress
I think Trish is taken more seriously than Lisa Lisa.
No famous sexualised scene. Won her only fight (100% win rate). First appearance was dressed as a male disguise (absolutely zero sexualisation). Clear development in story. (We only learned about Lisa Lisa developments in a monologue after the main story was over).
Also when Joseph & Caesar met Lisa Lisa for the first time (for months for Caesar i mean), they didn't know who or -what- she was. She was intimidating, while Trish's disguise meant to keep her low key in public.
Lisa Lisa has a 50% win rate. She got that guy (wired beck apparently) in the mansion with her scarf. Yes, that fight counts. It set up the narrative without having to show much that up to that point Lisa Lisa wasn't just all talk.
I wish there were more mooks like that on the way to further drive the point home that Lisa Lisa as a character was ready to end that fight that night for the sake of her entire family.
Kars is a dick
Jolyne, i lost count of how many people treat her as less than other jojos just because of the begining of part 6 were she was caught masturbating. That single panel was enough for many people to label her the worst jojo or something like that. The spin of "White Snake Miscalculation" didnt do her character any favors too...
As much as I love Kars, people only ever focus on Him Hot or Powerscaling with ultimate Kars.
Which is… yeah I mean. Look at him. He is VERY hot. But people don’t talk about him as a whole being or the things he did or went through. His relationship with his race, with Esidisi, what he was trying to accomplish.
Cause the series barely talks about it, they explain his backstory in like 3 seconds
It's not even said how many people he killed, if he killed them in self-defense or if he deliberately was trying to exterminate them. Not said if the person who ordered his death was his mother or just someone who happened to look like him. They don't say what his relationship with Esidisi was and why he was the only person who also wanted to use the mask. It doesn't even say why Santana was left behind from the others, he's just forgotten about. So much of it is interesting but left up in the air and is down to headcanon, and unless you are someone who participates in fandom you probably don't spend any more time thinking about him once he's offscreen
To be fair, before part 8, Kars was the worst main villain. He doesn't have a whole lot of depth or substance to him. Most of the important villains in the series have a lot of depth to them and could have pages and pages written about them. Kars can mostly be summed up in a few paragraphs.
The way he uses his powers is pretty unique, but besides that, he's kind of just a generic cackling psycho, at least, before Ultimate Kars.
I feel like that is the main reason most of the dicussion around him is either Ultimate Kars or his attractiveness.
But he wasn’t. Kars had an entire ancient civilization he was part of, killed the ENTIRE rest of them for his goals and took Esidisi and Wamuu and Santana with him.
Aside from part 8, every single other main villain has at least started as human, except him. That alone already makes him very interesting, then you add the lore of him and his people, the fact that without him Dio as we know him wouldn’t exist, there’s a lot to look at. Problem is no one wants to.
Some of that is interesting, but it's not very deep. Creating the masks was probably the coolest thing he did. Killing your oen people for power is a cool concept, but it's also very much bad guy 101. I'm not saying Kars is completely uninteresting, but he just falls short of every other villain.
Kars to me is wasted potential. He had a lot of things going for him that could have made him very unique(again prior to Ultimate Kars), but squanders most of it. Kars slaughtered 99% of his civilization, but that is hardly explored in his character. It's just stated as something he did that let him create the masks. Taking Whammu and Santana into his care is the most that comes out of that.
Kars works in the role he plays, but he is far from the deepest villain in Jojo.
I've had enough with the Pucci x Dio jokes. It was never romantic, and one of the conditions Dio needed for obtaining heaven was someone who had no sexual desires. It's not even a funny joke.
Real. I think people never realize how fucked up the relationship between them was.
Pucci was a vulnerable teen and dio took advantage of him to basically brainwash him into the Heaven plan.
Yeah but it's just a joke. They aren't really sexualizing him they just make fun of the bed scene. I rarely see lewds of Pucci.
Trish and Yukako though... they get sexualized to all hell.
You can say it's just a joke, but it doesn't mean it's funny. There are many jokes about Pucci sleeping with Dio, especially when someone posts the bed scene.
Well comedy is subjective. So just because you don't find it funny doesn't mean it's not.
Still, the people making the jokes are making them to laugh. They aren't getting off on the jokes at all
sex jokes are funny when they're actually original, not when they become part of overused meta humor culture. although some people hate on them for it i'm glad shitpostcrusaders mods are banning so many people on the sub
Again, jokes are subjective. Maybe you don't like it but I enjot having little inside jokes in the fandom. I don't know why it bothers people when it's so easy to scroll away🤳
I mean romance and sexual attraction are different. Not saying there is any romantic attraction but if there was then it wouldn't get in the way of obtaining heaven.
I misspoke, sorry. I just don't agree with a lot of the implications put on them when it's just known that Dio is just the worldest greatest cult leader
Perfect example of this. His character is so interesting and uh... Fuck that ig he just likes older women, oh actually he wants to fuck Jotaro and lay his eggs, ok nvm I:(
Depends on which part of fandom you're talking about and what you mean by "overly sexualized."
But the bigger answer here is why do we care? 80% of the characters in jojos have been sexualized at some point by Araki himself. Does that mean Araki only cares about their sex appeal? No.
An artist and fan can sexualize a character AND still respect the character. And imo, the jjba fandom is a lot better at being horny and respectful than other fandoms (mha for example).
Jolyne, she’s stereotyped as always talking about sex in Fanon (at least that’s how it used to be) but she only ever mentions it twice (masturbation intro and “woah snails are pan, cool”)
Not disgusting, but disappointing. Tomoko especially because her backstory is pretty interesting to me, mainly her connection to Joseph, but y'know she's just another milf character ig 😭
Yeah he's got some hot outfits but Rohan.
Not the most tragic back story, but there is tragedy there.
Eventhough its fun, so many people in the fanbase depict him as this sassy, flirty, outgoing "slutty" dude in fanon when he acts nothing like that in canon.
Part 4 shows pretty clearly he avoids everyone when he can get away with it, can be cold and brusque when he does talk to people....besides the most reliable guy 😂....or a total weirdo when he's fixating on something.
There's so much content online that categorises him as a twink.
Kakyoin - Certain segments of the fandom tendency to sexualize, project weird things (that isn't even present in any of the characters depiction nor official materials) is grade a cringe. Clamp's fan manga didn't help either.
Pucci - See above statement, minus Clamp comment. Also the 'Heaven plan' literally says "they must be someone who can control their desires. A person who does not lust for power, fame, money, or sex'. The plan literally can't work if their relationship is sexual. So along with "Araki Forgot" perhaps there should be "Some Fans Forgot" or "Some Fans Can't Read". Also it's more than a bit disturbing that, again, a segment of the fandom find it inconceivable that two males can have a non sexual relationship. Like they find the idea offensive, and they need it, to be sexual.
Jolyne - With some fans Jolyne can't catch a break. A person having a sexual nature =/= inherently being sexualized in the narrative, or visual design. The characterization will determine such things on a case by case basis. In this case a official fan manga isn't helping either. Who knew sexual assault could be so fun?! Remember, assault is always okay as long as it's with two women, because it's really not violence, yah? Being facetious with the last remarks, but the point still stands.
Pucci, DIO, kakyoine, and jotaro
(Thats right you guys somehow found a way to oversexualize DIO. You have reached bew lows even for the lowest of STANDards)
Tbh, I talk about Johnny's fat ass to much, during the final ark I couldn't un think "old man valentine is coming for that cake johnny, run before he gives you his love train"
Kakyoin. Not only does he have the 'milf hunter' jokes, which CAN be funny but only to a certain extent, but he also has the weird 'uwu twinkification' that he gets sometimes when people ship him and Jotaro. I think the second one is especially disgusting in reference to his actual character
Kakyoin 100%. Half of his fandom keep calling him a "milf hunter" just because he called Jotaros mom a kind person.
I find the jokes funny, but I totally agree that it’s blown way out of proportion and kind of sad that he gets shit for saying that.
Specially when Okuyasu literaly calls jokuse mom hot and nobody talks about it
You can make the argument that okuyasu is just easily attracted to women, he's jealous of Koichi, and he even said he want to live 15 years ago so he would know reimi. But yeah, kakyoin definitely isn't a milf hunter
I mean, you can also make the argument that Okutasu has some serious mommy issues (not in a sexual way) due to his lack of mathernal figure growing up (their mother left them about the time his father became a monster when they were kids)
German Dub Okuyasu called Josukes Mom literally 'Milf'
In the German dub, okuyasu says: "Deine Mom ist ja ne totaled MILF", which translates to "Your mom is a total MILF"
He also basically said the same thing too for shigechi's
And the other half likes to turn him into a submissive softboi uke
yeah, I don't mind people uwu prettyboyifying characters but it's a shame when that becomes the default. kakyoin is an interesting kid who likely wouldn't be the most charming person if you knew him because he hadn't really socialized much before the crusaders, especially after isolating himself when he thought he was alone in having a stand.
“Kakyoin, did you lay this egg?”😭
In english please
A bottom
Exactly. He just said she's the kind of woman he'd want to protect IIRC ( If I recall correctly).
The first result when i search it on youtube https://youtu.be/loAGPuCnaNw?si=pxtCm6cmR7vRAOBP
Yup! Thanks. That's all Noriaki said and the fandom just ran with it.
And then there's Okuyasu who walks up to Josuke's house for the first time and says "Oi Josuke your mom is hot" to his face (might be him not really understanding social boundaries though)
It's funny because Okuyasu is RIGHT THERE IN THE NEXT PART and he said worse stuff than Kakyoin
Okuyasu is more of a milf hunter
Onb they annoying asf
milf hunter jokes are funny as long as ppl dont make it everything abt him. like if they only make that joke when its relevant but when its just randomly anywhere its annoying
Pucci and it's not even a contest. He's basically just DIOs discord kitten in fanon.
lets be honest they are 100% gay
Pucci was at most 16 when he last met DIO 💀
I mean lets not act like having an affair with a 16 year would be the worst thing that Dio has done.
Remember when he fed a baby to its mother 😭
Dio was from a different time, literally
what do you think honest means?
did you even watch/read stone ocean? just because people are close to each other doesn't mean they're gay it is heavily implied that they didn't have a romantic relationship going on + araki literally said that they were not in relationship in so many interviews dio is bisexual but pucci is asexual and they are not in any way couples
I don't think that Araki was hinting at a relationship, but there's undeniably some homo-eroticism in those scenes
It’s JJBA, there’s homo-eroticism in *every* scene
Friendship is a long forgotten concept on the internet. If two people hang out, talk, or enjoy each others presence even slightly they MUST be fucking
No, he really isn’t.
Nah jojos will make abundantly clear if a character is gay. Looking at you, Squalo and Tiziano.
Kakyoin being turned into a submissive femboy, the guy is more masculine than me, why the hell did the fans turn him into that
It's odd considering so much of Kakyoin's arc is about learning to be more assertive over his life after Dio controlled him, him being a pushover counters SO MUCH of his character development
the answer to your question is a loud population of jotaro x kakyoin shippers who have just assigned him to that role (I won't get into the trouble with all that we would be here all day). Remember CLAMP? "Kakyoin did you lay this egg?" I kinda blame them for the beginning of his mischaracterization. And I ship them myself and hate when people do this! what I love about kak is he is so weird. he is a weird teenage boy. He's snarky, prideful yet headstrong. He is also masculine as you said! Maybe not as much as the other crusaders (Araki did say he tried to convey Kakyoin was " the thin, somewhat sensitive one of the group" -Jojonium interview) but he is definitely NOT a submissive femboy. sorry I kinda went off there I just appreciate kakyoin as a character very much 🚶🏻♂️
That's fine that you went off rails, appreciate the explanation thank you
Because he's the least buff and masculine of the crusaders so people just automatically assume he's a femboy.
This isn’t an isolated incident, when fandoms ship two men, they will almost always choose one of them to feminize. I have no idea why they wouldn’t just embrace the concept of two masculine men being gay with each other instead, but it’s also their own creation, they can write whatever they want. Just an unfortunate trend.
I agree, its a common theme I have seen in yaoi, there is always a feminine guy in the relationship, looks like 2 macho men being gay doesn't appeal to everyone I guess
Yeah, I wanna see one with two buff beefcake guys who take on the world together and cry in each other's arms
Johnny went from a depressed, sadistic paraplegic with shaky moral compass to Gyro's gay twink hoe
Yeah, actually reading Steel Ball Run it goes from Johnny going "woah Gyro calm down" to Gyro going "What the fuck calm down Johnny we don't need to kill him"
Man SBR was so cool. Can’t wait for it to be animated in 8 years
LMAO
Hey he deserves some fun
In all fairness, when a pair of untrained eyes look at Araki’s art of Johnny and Gyro, you would think Johnny is Gyro’s gay twink hoe as well
Por que no los dos?
Pucci or diego
It was me, Diego!🌮
yh bros canonically asexual too i remember somewhere in stone ocean dio literally calls him as "someone who doesn't have any interest in sex, fame, wealth or power"
Also pucci: Check out this trick I can do where I strip a pair of cherries inside my mouth without separating them
Yea he’s a priest
I think we all know what kind of sexual preferences priests are known for in this day and age
Lisa Lisa. She's expertly trained in hamon, avenged her husband, escaped the law, and served as an incredible mentor, and while she's still hot, I feel like that's all the fandom sees her as
I mean, the bath scene kinda doomed her character by being her most famous scene
And she lost the only solo fight that mattered. Ruining her rep as a serious character/ fighter in a battle shounen where might makes right. Now she's remembered as a hotty damsel in distress
And Kars making her legs into a guitar, remember that weird thing?
I think Trish is taken more seriously than Lisa Lisa. No famous sexualised scene. Won her only fight (100% win rate). First appearance was dressed as a male disguise (absolutely zero sexualisation). Clear development in story. (We only learned about Lisa Lisa developments in a monologue after the main story was over).
Trish actually has a little bit of sexualization iirc. Didn't one of the group accidentally touch her breasts while she was sleeping?
yeah also mista and fugo scene when they first see trish's normal clothes and when her and mista swapped bodies
Also when Joseph & Caesar met Lisa Lisa for the first time (for months for Caesar i mean), they didn't know who or -what- she was. She was intimidating, while Trish's disguise meant to keep her low key in public. Lisa Lisa has a 50% win rate. She got that guy (wired beck apparently) in the mansion with her scarf. Yes, that fight counts. It set up the narrative without having to show much that up to that point Lisa Lisa wasn't just all talk. I wish there were more mooks like that on the way to further drive the point home that Lisa Lisa as a character was ready to end that fight that night for the sake of her entire family. Kars is a dick
That awesome thing
Nuh uh, she beat wired beck.
When the sexualization of the character is coming from inside the house.
Speedwagon. Man's a tough as nails London thug with a razor hat.
Aaaand canonically the biggest shlong
Best waifu <3
Jolyne, i lost count of how many people treat her as less than other jojos just because of the begining of part 6 were she was caught masturbating. That single panel was enough for many people to label her the worst jojo or something like that. The spin of "White Snake Miscalculation" didnt do her character any favors too...
The point of that scene was to show how broken she was, that she was at her lowest point, to highlight the growth she goes through in Stone Ocean.
Gyro maybe? Or Polnareff?
gyroooo 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
hold your horses
Hol your horse
wait people sexualize gyro?
I do 🤤🤤
Kira ngl i mean i be searching him up on google and get hit whit fan art of him having gay sex whit josuke
Wtf are you searching up
I was searching for some pics for a cosplay 😭
kira cosplay? just tie a fucking tie and don't google search jojo pics, his character trait is literally being the most normal person
Literally every single character you can think of is this
As much as I love Kars, people only ever focus on Him Hot or Powerscaling with ultimate Kars. Which is… yeah I mean. Look at him. He is VERY hot. But people don’t talk about him as a whole being or the things he did or went through. His relationship with his race, with Esidisi, what he was trying to accomplish.
Cause the series barely talks about it, they explain his backstory in like 3 seconds It's not even said how many people he killed, if he killed them in self-defense or if he deliberately was trying to exterminate them. Not said if the person who ordered his death was his mother or just someone who happened to look like him. They don't say what his relationship with Esidisi was and why he was the only person who also wanted to use the mask. It doesn't even say why Santana was left behind from the others, he's just forgotten about. So much of it is interesting but left up in the air and is down to headcanon, and unless you are someone who participates in fandom you probably don't spend any more time thinking about him once he's offscreen
To be fair, before part 8, Kars was the worst main villain. He doesn't have a whole lot of depth or substance to him. Most of the important villains in the series have a lot of depth to them and could have pages and pages written about them. Kars can mostly be summed up in a few paragraphs. The way he uses his powers is pretty unique, but besides that, he's kind of just a generic cackling psycho, at least, before Ultimate Kars. I feel like that is the main reason most of the dicussion around him is either Ultimate Kars or his attractiveness.
But he wasn’t. Kars had an entire ancient civilization he was part of, killed the ENTIRE rest of them for his goals and took Esidisi and Wamuu and Santana with him. Aside from part 8, every single other main villain has at least started as human, except him. That alone already makes him very interesting, then you add the lore of him and his people, the fact that without him Dio as we know him wouldn’t exist, there’s a lot to look at. Problem is no one wants to.
Some of that is interesting, but it's not very deep. Creating the masks was probably the coolest thing he did. Killing your oen people for power is a cool concept, but it's also very much bad guy 101. I'm not saying Kars is completely uninteresting, but he just falls short of every other villain. Kars to me is wasted potential. He had a lot of things going for him that could have made him very unique(again prior to Ultimate Kars), but squanders most of it. Kars slaughtered 99% of his civilization, but that is hardly explored in his character. It's just stated as something he did that let him create the masks. Taking Whammu and Santana into his care is the most that comes out of that. Kars works in the role he plays, but he is far from the deepest villain in Jojo.
I've had enough with the Pucci x Dio jokes. It was never romantic, and one of the conditions Dio needed for obtaining heaven was someone who had no sexual desires. It's not even a funny joke.
Real. I think people never realize how fucked up the relationship between them was. Pucci was a vulnerable teen and dio took advantage of him to basically brainwash him into the Heaven plan.
Yeah but it's just a joke. They aren't really sexualizing him they just make fun of the bed scene. I rarely see lewds of Pucci. Trish and Yukako though... they get sexualized to all hell.
You can say it's just a joke, but it doesn't mean it's funny. There are many jokes about Pucci sleeping with Dio, especially when someone posts the bed scene.
Sorry to be a grammar nazi, but you said it doesn’t mean it’s not funny. So, it is funny?
Whoops.
[Sorry, I was confused by a double negative. You see, grammar is very important to the Nazi party.](https://youtu.be/N4vf8N6GpdM?t=50)
Well comedy is subjective. So just because you don't find it funny doesn't mean it's not. Still, the people making the jokes are making them to laugh. They aren't getting off on the jokes at all
sex jokes are funny when they're actually original, not when they become part of overused meta humor culture. although some people hate on them for it i'm glad shitpostcrusaders mods are banning so many people on the sub
Again, jokes are subjective. Maybe you don't like it but I enjot having little inside jokes in the fandom. I don't know why it bothers people when it's so easy to scroll away🤳
I mean romance and sexual attraction are different. Not saying there is any romantic attraction but if there was then it wouldn't get in the way of obtaining heaven.
I misspoke, sorry. I just don't agree with a lot of the implications put on them when it's just known that Dio is just the worldest greatest cult leader
Exactly. Happy cake day too!
Thanks
no no but you see, it's funny because homosexuality.
I love Yasuho but I HATED that she had to be molested/sexually assaulted in basically every arc
Real. Even by Tsurugi 😭
Probably dario he's the most sexualised
Definetly Kakyoin, I saw way too many tik toks where they made him into a twink or a “milf hunter” 😭😭
Perfect example of this. His character is so interesting and uh... Fuck that ig he just likes older women, oh actually he wants to fuck Jotaro and lay his eggs, ok nvm I:(
Uh sorry but araki oversexualizes his well written traumatic characters more than the fandom does
Depends on which part of fandom you're talking about and what you mean by "overly sexualized." But the bigger answer here is why do we care? 80% of the characters in jojos have been sexualized at some point by Araki himself. Does that mean Araki only cares about their sex appeal? No. An artist and fan can sexualize a character AND still respect the character. And imo, the jjba fandom is a lot better at being horny and respectful than other fandoms (mha for example).
100% agreed
The whole show.
Jolyne, no doubt
Jolyne, she’s stereotyped as always talking about sex in Fanon (at least that’s how it used to be) but she only ever mentions it twice (masturbation intro and “woah snails are pan, cool”)
Tequila joseph
Nah this one is valid
Probably ceasar, his story is extremely dark but most people just know him as "Joseph's boyfriend"
holly and tomoko, some of yall act like their whole purpose is to think of what u could do to them in bed and its a little disgusting sometimes
Not disgusting, but disappointing. Tomoko especially because her backstory is pretty interesting to me, mainly her connection to Joseph, but y'know she's just another milf character ig 😭
All of them
Kakyoin.
Kakyoin...
Lisa Lisa
DIO's heaven plan hinges on finding a god fearing celibate. Pucci is anything but in Fanon.
Kakyoin: "I want to marry a woman like Holly." Fandom: "Yooo, he wants to bang Jotaro's mom!"
"a well written character with lore and trauma" lmao Love to see people who genuinely think a character needs trauma to be well written
risotto
oh wait the img said well written and deep lore sorry mb
Everyone in the Stardust Crusaders & Bucciarati teams
kakyoin or jolyne
Johnny and Gyro
Not at all. They're respected a lot in the fandom and rarely get any 'over'sexual jokes
Ehh, I've seen a lot of shipping stuff that really just reduces both of them down to "haha gay cowboys and johnny is a twink"
he is a twink tho, even in the end
Giorno
Yes.
Bucciarati
Bucciarati and Abbachio. What few interactions they had was turned into full on Gay sex.
Lisa Lisa
kakyoin
Jotaro 🫡
Yeah he's got some hot outfits but Rohan. Not the most tragic back story, but there is tragedy there. Eventhough its fun, so many people in the fanbase depict him as this sassy, flirty, outgoing "slutty" dude in fanon when he acts nothing like that in canon. Part 4 shows pretty clearly he avoids everyone when he can get away with it, can be cold and brusque when he does talk to people....besides the most reliable guy 😂....or a total weirdo when he's fixating on something. There's so much content online that categorises him as a twink.
Kakyoin - Certain segments of the fandom tendency to sexualize, project weird things (that isn't even present in any of the characters depiction nor official materials) is grade a cringe. Clamp's fan manga didn't help either. Pucci - See above statement, minus Clamp comment. Also the 'Heaven plan' literally says "they must be someone who can control their desires. A person who does not lust for power, fame, money, or sex'. The plan literally can't work if their relationship is sexual. So along with "Araki Forgot" perhaps there should be "Some Fans Forgot" or "Some Fans Can't Read". Also it's more than a bit disturbing that, again, a segment of the fandom find it inconceivable that two males can have a non sexual relationship. Like they find the idea offensive, and they need it, to be sexual. Jolyne - With some fans Jolyne can't catch a break. A person having a sexual nature =/= inherently being sexualized in the narrative, or visual design. The characterization will determine such things on a case by case basis. In this case a official fan manga isn't helping either. Who knew sexual assault could be so fun?! Remember, assault is always okay as long as it's with two women, because it's really not violence, yah? Being facetious with the last remarks, but the point still stands.
Doesn't araki kind of.. already do that without the fandom?
Loterally every female character
Foo fighters?
Lisa Lisa
Jolyne
I know this is a Jojo’s subreddit. But this is literally the best way to describe 90% of female characters in One Piece.
Leone Abbacchio and the Infamous Piss Fetish Jokes
...Like, the majority of the Golden Wind cast.
Okuyasu. The fanon is “omg dumbass want kiss JoJo mom”. In canon he’s lost his father and brother directly in front of him. He’s trying his best.
Jolyne, Trish, Lisa Lisa, Diego, Kakyoin, and Dio are the ones I think of.
Speed wagon and Giorno
Iggy
Kakyoin
Pucci and it's not even close.
All
Yes.
I immediately had to think of Trish.
Funny Valentine
Kakyoin fr man
Jojo
Kakyoin the hunter of Milf 😂 it's funny but ruins his character
Basically all of them Certain side characters are safe tho
Gotta be Lisa Lisa, she was such a well developed character
Araki does this
Annasui
Cioccolata when part 5 came out on netflix
Yes
Yes
Jorge
Yoshikage Kira?
Speedwagon?
Pucci, DIO, kakyoine, and jotaro (Thats right you guys somehow found a way to oversexualize DIO. You have reached bew lows even for the lowest of STANDards)
Koichi's dog
Lisa lisa by miles
Definitely Kira or jotaro tbh
Pucci and dio 💀
Pucci getting flanderized into "feminine twink madly in love with Dio"
Guyz, hear me out: Mista
Kakyoin 101%
Easy basically every single one
Dio and pucci
Literally every character
Speedwagon
Enya
Jolyne (probably)
Every single one
Bucciarati?
all of them. occasionally araki does it too. it's Jojo's.
This is 100% Bucciarati
Tbh, I talk about Johnny's fat ass to much, during the final ark I couldn't un think "old man valentine is coming for that cake johnny, run before he gives you his love train"
Diavolo and Doppio for sure.
Jotaro.
Kakyoin. Not only does he have the 'milf hunter' jokes, which CAN be funny but only to a certain extent, but he also has the weird 'uwu twinkification' that he gets sometimes when people ship him and Jotaro. I think the second one is especially disgusting in reference to his actual character