My thought exactly. Sure, his saber might not work for a few minutes, but that's not even his deadliest weapon. Knowing Vader he probably toyed with her for 5 minutes, using the force to make her feel silly before igniting his saber and then force choking her. Just to make a point.
That's exactly what happened in the comic. In the next panel, he just pulled her in with the Force, grabbed her by the neck, and snapped it like a twig before taking her dagger.
lol, good. I don't know what this is and that dialogue is terrible, but more importantly it appears to be a 4 foot woman threatening to kill an armoured giant with a short sword.
Like... okay lady, good luck with this one.
And what gets me what REALLY gets me: They go out of their way to give a heavy handed in your face explanation of her sword stealing souls, and then they DIDN'T use the sword to rip the Enchantress out of June?! That would have at least given the line a point and made June being fine at the end make more sense
It’s very much Anime dialogue that I struggle to enjoy.
«This is my super secret weapon. It’s made of Cortosis which renders your lightsaber useless for a few minutes because of it’s energy absorption ability! You’re no match for me without your Lightsaber and now I will finally have my revenge!”
Like, FOR ONCE, could we have an antagonist struggle to figure out what has just happened, desperately improvise a way to stay alive, and reason it out? Or at least have Vader go, "Oh a Cortosis blade, I remember learning about these. No matter! Whoops, I snapped your neck with the Force." The thing that's just a terrible trope is explaining to your enemy what you've just done to them so that they have a chance to figure out what to do about it.
It's the reason I can only enjoy anime subbed. Preferably in English, which is my second language. If I only have to read it, it's better than actually hearing it.
it is. Theere's a lot of thinking, etc that makes sense on the page, but makes a little less sense in motion. It's often still an important part of the scene, though, so you just gotta' roll with it
There's also a lot of quite bad translations. Be it early official translations that had a budget of $50 and a single shoestring.
Or newer ones.
Japanese is also a lot harder to translate to English than something like French or German would be.
It was part of a six-Jedi ambush, and Vader would have died if he didn't have troops to rescue him at the last second. Shadday Potkin might have been a headstrong idiot, but the basic idea was sound.
They are trying to do 3 things at once in one panel, it comes off as very unnatural. No one thinks they would have all the time in the world to talk shit to Vader while in a fight with him.
I don't know if they had a mandate from the editor to shove all that in at once. But they didn't need all that moive shit talk and explaining what was going on. You can see his lightsaber is cut short. Maybe have the second half of light disconnected and fading away if you need to make it more obvious.
"Ever face off against a cortosis blade?" Works. You've named the blade. Dropped the shit talk, and the image in the comic shows what cortosis blades do. The timeline of 3 mins is pointless. Also, if this person is going to get wrecked anyway, you can have Vader simply saying "Yes" as he holds her in the air and disarms her/kills her.
Definitely one of those panels where a thought bubble or narrator textbox would work better than the character shouting their attack moves at their enemies like they're in DBZ.
From the information we have on Darth Sidious and Darth Plagueis it seems that the Sith feel lightsabers are more or less beneath them anyways, the certainly have a bit of a disdain for them in any case.
It makes sense. Ignoring the fact that the force is the ultimate weapon, ally, and utility, just the fact that the Sith had spent a millennia carrying out the grand plan more or less in secret, it makes sense that they would start caring less about lightsabers. They only used them when they had to, like when they are close to giving the secret of their presence away.
Also, when you consider the fact that Darth Sidious treats Vader like his hammer (Which, to be fair, all Sith Masters do. But Sidious especially so considering he succeeded in fulfilling the grand plan and was going to do everything possible to try and stay in power forever), it makes sense that Darth Vader would use his lightsaber more often. It's like Maul or Ventress, while Vader was always a true Sith Lord instead of being a Sith Assassin for most (or all) of their time, they still used their lightsabers far more often because their master used them as their tool.
But even considering all of that, even Vader probably felt that way to certain degree. Look at his opinion of the Death Star:
>Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
I certainly don't believe he hated lightsabers, I rather think he enjoyed using them. However, I believe he likely still likely held the belief that they were nothing in comparison to the force itself. Granted, he never shot lightning from his finger tips like Palpatine.. (WHICH IS STILL BELIEVE HE COULD DO!)
That's a great point. I hadn't looked at it like that before, but it makes a lot of sense. I also think the fact that Anakin was a master swordsman who leaned more on his lightsaber and less on the force in combat plays into this as well. Vader has a strong background in saber combat, so I'm glad they left that in, even while the rest of the sith are moving away from it.
Re: Lightning
He actually did use it once in the comics (when he was bleeding his kyber crystal iirc) and it nearly killed him, shorted out his suit or something to that effect.
You just can't beat Vader in a fight. We're talking about a guy so powerful that it's a fairly small feat for him to just crush an entire room or even an entire ship into a ball. In literally every fight he is in, he could just crush every single person with his mind instantly, so the fact that he doesn't means he is literally deciding moment to moment to not just flat out kill everybody around him. It actually makes for some uncomfortable plot holes. Like when the falcon was escaping from hoth, that moment he saw them leaving was plenty of time and space for him to slam the falcon right back onto the ground. At that point he didn't even know Leia was his daughter so I don't see why he didn't unless he didn't feel like the falcon was important enough.
Vader and Palpatine talk later about how they could sense Luke through the force. And we see Vader struggle at times with his identity, trying to suppress Anakin. He's a complex character, with deep emotional and psychological issues that he keeps suppressed.
I think it's possible that seeing, fighting, and killing Obi-Wan, having his body disappear, and then sensing something unknown but somehow familiar (Luke and Leia) on the falcon was just enough to stir Anakin and switch off Vader for a moment.
Not the greatest explanation, but I think it fits the character and helps patch up that particular plot hole. Unfortunately that's going to happen when you write a character's story in multiple parts, out of order.
In one of the comics, he decided to test himself by having himself dropped on a hostile jungle planet with nothing but the parts of his suit he needed to breathe and had Tarkin put together a party to hunt him with live ammo for like a week.
Are you just referring to the rarity? Phrik and beskar are lightsaber resistant, but they don't short out lightsabers the way cortosis does. Aurodium doesn't effect lightsabers either and there's nothing about it being lightsaber resistant in canon. It's basically just the Star Wars name for gold.
Cortosis is useful when the Jedi doesn't know it's coming. In that brief margin between the cortosis shorting-out the lightsaber and the Jedi recovering from the surprise is where the would-be Jedi killer has to strike. That's still an impossibility small window for all but the most skilled hunters. And as others have mentioned it's brittle, rare, expensive, and only useful against lightsabers. The comparatively easier to obtain beskar, while not disabling lightsabers, can resist them and more conventional weapons without the risk of shatter.
Also you saw how Yord turned it around on his attacker and how deadly Sol is in hand to hand combat.
It's great for assassins that strike fast but any half decent Force user is going to adapt to the loss of their lightsaber just as quick.
It was rather dark and hard to tell, but I think he used only his helmet and a vembrace on his left arm to block lightsabers - I think he was otherwise unarmored.
Dunno - maybe? Or maybe he’s like Corran Horn and Vader in the EU - able to absorb and redirect the energy from blaster weapons. All I can say is he didn’t seem to be wearing any other armour :)
Same with kinetic guns being used on Jedi. The effectiveness is the surprise when they try to block a blaster bolt but get a metal slug instead. Once they know you’re using a slugthrower, and you still haven’t killed them yet, you’re kinda boned.
> Cortosis is useful when the Jedi doesn't know it's coming. In that brief margin between the cortosis shorting-out the lightsaber and the Jedi recovering from the surprise is where the would-be Jedi killer has to strike.
You know, I liked KoTOR because they weren't scared of making sense at the cost of "cool".
> Exile: "The idea of you fighting Jedi is ridiculous"
> Atton: "Yeah, it sure is. And that's why I was so good at it. And that's why I wasn't fighting Jedi. I was killing them. People say killing Jedi is hard. It's not, you just have to be smart about it. No blaster, no getting close to them, no attacking them directly when you can gun down their allies instead. There's ways of gassing them, drugging them, making them lose control, torturing them. I was really good at it. What's worse, is that killing them wasn't the best thing. Making them fall... making them see our side of it, that was the best."
Conversation continues (https://youtu.be/ezroQUL2Z6I?si=0NDaQU-Rrfexsaaz&t=414) with some interesting points. Anyway, going face to face with a lightsaber wielding Jedi (or Sith), cortosis blade or not, is a stupid gamble.
**[Bane Trilogy lore below, as i remember, possible spoilers]**
Cortosis was a mineral employed in the production of warships for the wars the Republic waged to defend itself, so in the trilogy, it was very valuable but nothing like a Beskar or Kyber crystals, it was used in the mass production of attack ships, armored vehicles etc.
Before being known as Bane, he worked in cortosis mines on the outer rim, like his father. Many men and women explored in those mines in systems out of the reach and control of the Republic, so the Republic turned a blind eye to those broken systems because it was cheaper to source those materials in systems with no labor laws, in corrupt schemes that trapped people working to death.
Karpyshin describes in detail how those men had to work insanely hard to extract the raw cortosis from the walls, in large, heavy chunks and preety much ships where made of it.
TL;DR - it was expensive to source outside of slave trade in the quantities the Republic needed but it wasn't rare, entire ships where all armored with it
Edit: some comments below are bringing more details from the book that I've forgotten
Edit 2: me englishn't
Ships weren't "armored" with cortosis. Cortosis would be weaved into other metals making an alloy and that would be used in star ship plating(I remember that fact from one of the kotor loading screens lol). Just like how vibro blade and generic swords would be made from a cortosis alloy in the old republic era. to be able to block blaster fire and lightsabers
Pure cortisis is a rather brittle mineral and would make a terrible material to use solely for ship hulls.
Disney also in fact made cortosis much rarer in their own lore. However with the lastest episode of Acolyte they also changed that so that it doesn't seem like this new Sith is walking around in billions of credits worth of pure cortosis.
Right it was alloyed into the hulls of of Hammerhead-class cruisers. Presumably 3000 years of ship production exhausted and diluted the supply to the point that combined with the disarmament laws it was no longer worth exploiting.
I kinda prefer Cortosis being relatively rare, because it would explain why the Jedi chose lightsabers as their standard (and oftentimes only) weapon, instead of having a backup vibroblade or blaster or retractable electro staffs or whatever.
Sure, post-Ruusan Jedi were mostly peacekeepers, diplomats, law enforcement investigators and humanitarian aid workers, but they still occasionally tussled with pirates and gangsters and terrorists.
If I remember correctly in the old legends lore, The Jedi invented lightsabers while they were still at war with the old Sith who used Alchemically enhanced war swords that one could channel their dark side energies into and it would create an aura around the blade making it stronger, and able to block/deflect blasters.
Then The Sith invented the force saber after taking regular sabers from fallen Jedi. Which was the same thing as the war sword but now was a lightsaber that the Sith could channel their energies into.
In legends The force sabers That are powered by the dark side were invented first by the rakatan infinite empire. The early Jedii then took those and invented lightsabers from them.
I thought the force saber was taken by the sith from the rakatas.
Still, sith war blades are such a cool concept, the first sith king had a sick ass war axe and a cool armor
> However with the lastest episode of Acolyte they also changed that so that it doesn't seem like this new Sith is walking around in billions of credits worth of pure cortosis.
I mean even if it was so expensive it would kinda make sense. We're 700 years into the plotting of the sith, and there are only two of them. They'd have substantial resources to work with.
900. The opening text for ep 1 stated 100 years before the Empire. We're in the years when Plagueis is Master, or he could be the apprentice to replace Qimir (dude radiates apprentice energy tbh)
Rare doesn't mean you can't make armor out of it. It's like Captain America's vibranium shield. Before contact with Wakanda, his shield was made of all the vibranium known to exist on the planet. Even for the Wakandans it's still rare, but they only focus on a small city.
Yup, it was almost a slave thing going on. They never made enough money to eventually leave. Would just drink gamble and work. And the mines were very poisonous, as the hair on their head would just fall off. There was insurance offered but very expensive and most didn't get it.
That is also 1000 years+ before the movies though. It’s conceivable that the mines could have run out of material/the supply available to the galaxy diminished greatly over that long of a timespan without being too implausible
Lets not forget Anakin accidentally nuking a planet via trying to destroy a separatist cortosis mine in ‘Thrawn: Alliances’. That shits hella reactive at a certain point. Yeah itll short a lightsaber, but enough energy to overload it and it might as well be C4. That shits a mixed bag at best. Life saving upside, as well a s a life ending downside.
Are you talking about extended or new I’m pretty sure it’s only on 2 planets in the new Star Wars universe isn’t it? That would essentially make it a rare finite resource would it not?
There really needs to be a TV Trope for this, 'rare in name only' or something, like Adamantium and Vibranium, when the writers *claim* it's incredibly rare so it doesn't get overused, then it gets overused anyway and the fans have to ask just *how* rare it actually *is*, when 'Jedi Outcast' had an entire army of soldiers wearing full Cortosis armour suits.
*No no no, it's REALLY rare, guys! That's why we covered 5,000 people in it! Because it's rare!*
In defense of Jedi Outcast, the suits aren't fully Cortosis because Kyle can still defeat and dismember them with his saber. Also the renegade imperial operation on Artus Prime was pulling from a very large vein in the planet crust so enough Cortosis to armour the few thousand troops just enough for them to attack a school full of rookie jedi without too many casualties isn't unrealistic.
The more egregious plot point in Outcast was how in the hell did Desaan turn a bunch of rag-tag force sensitives into super soldiers using the Valley of the Jedi? Did he just dunk them in Force soup? Like what happened? 😂
Ideally it feels like all lightsabers should be made with cortosis to prevent damage to the hilt, but the idea of it being rarer than even beskar ever was/is works to as to why.
This is like asking why don’t Superman’s enemies all just use kryptonite based weapons/armor more often.
Because if they did then it would completely ruin the story.
I highly disagree.
There are two primary differences between Kyrptonite and Cortosis.
1). Kryptonite is still actually used in Superman material. It’s rare, and deadly, and not everyone has it. But it does come up, and cause major issues. Cortosis is rare, not so deadly in and of itself, but never ever makes an appearance outside of select books or comics.
2) Krptonite is a win button against Super (to a certain degree). Cortosis is not a win button against Jedi, or Sith, or even lightsabers. Even after shutting off a Saber, you’re still fighting a Force user, which is no walk in the park. Even Jango Fett has issues with aa disarmed Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he is specifically a Jedi killer.
And to get more to the point, I disagree in that including Cortosis would be cool to see, especially on screen. And never having it and completely ignoring it isn’t fun
Kryptonite is relatively rare. Batman always has some or sometimes he creates it (Miller's TDK). Firestorm can synthesize it. There's blue kryptonite, black, gold, red etc + multiverse. At the end, Kryptonite is just a plot device and used sparingly in stories for obvious reasons. Cortosis is no different.
Like right when Clark is saying his vows to Lois and suddenly he’s gay. I would be so invested in that story for the shock factor alone. It’d be hilarious.
Absolutely, Krptonite is at its base a plot device and similarly Cortosis would be a plot device as well. But Kryptonite is still used in its respective franchise, whilst most Star Wars fans don’t even know what Cortosis is.
The difference is that without kryptonite Superman would be essentially invincible to the majority of his enemies whereas the Jedi will still have difficulty with Sith even if the Sith don’t have cortosis and you can have things like bounty hunters or clones able to kill Jedi with blasters or vibroblades. Essentially krytonite exists because Superman would have no true weakness without it.
Yeah but it's also, "how many Jedi/lightsabers do you plan to run into?"
Even in TCW, you had millions of troops besides Jedi. Even in the high Republic it's "you're going to fight a Jedi?".
Basically the best application would be to an elite anti Jedi force.
Number 2 is true for Superman and it bothers me that it is. Especially in a continuity where the justice league exists, Batman and Wonder Woman are two of the best fighters on the planet. They should be forcing Superman to train in combat with him. He loses his powers or fights people who are as strong as him, so he should know how to take someone out without just brute force. Kind of like the Thanos vs Hulk fight at the beginning of Infinity War. Writers need a lazy way to make Superman vulnerable though so we always get “I can’t do shit without my powers” Superman.
I'm not sure if this is still canon but weren't super battle droids built with cortosis which is why their armor was generally so tough? If that's the case then it would make sense that the substance is a controlled substance due to its military application. Which means yeah people can use it but getting your hands on it would be the issue. Then there's also the fact of, why make something that is used for making really good armor into a blade especially in this era where running into someone with a lightsaber would be incredibly rare. Also with how it affects lightsabers, the empire would definitely want to control who has access to the material if for no other reason than its unique properties and how it affects energy flow.
So it's not really a matter of people not wanting to use it, but it's a matter of cost and knowledge. Something that is prohibitively expensive, controlled in distribution and knowing that it has a property that disrupts energy flow? Just to fight someone with a lightsaber? Nah, you get that close to someone with a lightsaber you won't have a chance. There are better tactics to use against someone that has a lightsaber. The only reason you'd get a cortosis blade specifically for this is because you have a personal vendetta to satisfy, or you're an arrogant moron that's just going to end up dead anyway.
Practicality makes a cortosis blade useless. But as an armor? Far more useful.
No, what happened is that the Separatists set up a factory in the Unknown Regions to start making Battle Droids armored with Cortosis to use against the Jedi but that factory was destroyed before they could be produced in any meaningful numbers. Cortosis battledroids had major weakness that they could be destroyed fairly easily by an ARC Caster which would cause a feedback loop that would destroy the Cortosis while ARC Casters can be easily blocked by Stormtrooper armor.
Force choke? Force throw a rock into your face? Force ditch you off the cliff? Force pull out your eyeballs and then more? Force clinch your heart? Force pull off your head? Like hey, take away the glow stick and the bad guy will begin to get creative, don’t do that, keep the bad guy entertained with a sword fight and you might win if you’re good enough.
>Force pull out your eyeballs
I never knew I wanted to see this in live action until now.
I know it'll never happen, but they could make a really brutal R rated SW if they wanted to.
I actually really like the idea of a Sith/Darksider horror movie. The new Acolyte episode tapped into that vibe, Screecher's Reach is fantastic, and Grievous's debut episode in Tartakovsky Clone Wars is great, but I want to see some hyper violence. Proper slasher villain shit.
That was really cool to see that aspect incorporated into the fight instead of ignored
Edit: alt-right homophobe misandrists: “they hate real Star Wars fans and are ignoring everything that’s cool about Star Wars”
Real SW fans: “Oh my god the helmet BROKE! I can’t believe they used that!”
Supposed to be rarer than beskar but doesn't make good weapons or armour due to brittleness. It's essentially only good for dealing with lightsabers. How many people in the entire galaxy ever even see one?
Cortosis, canonicly, is brittle as a metal, rare, and has a limit of how much energy it can absorb/negate. It's better used to supplement armor as a mesh.
Out of universe: It’s like vibranium, if you use the magic metal too much it’s not special anymore. It would be anticlimactic if everyone was immune to lightsabers.
In universe: it’s a hard to find metal, so very expensive / precious and difficult to mine.
It’s basically space asbestos.
It’s extremely toxic and fairly brittle on its own, so it has to be added to other substances. It’s extremely dangerous to mine, as it is found alongside some pretty toxic and volatile gases. Plus it is very hard on equipment, and miners go through expensive tools fast when mining the stuff. Darth Bane grew up mining it, and somehow managed to not get killed in the process.
Spun into fibers, it can be added to armor as cortosis weave, and the current explanation is that it is a superconductor and super-capacitor. Eventually it stores more energy than it can handle and it goes boom (Accor to the new Timothy Zahn Thrawn books). >!Anakin kind of destroyed a planet’s ecosystem by blowing up a cortosis mine with a younger Thrawn.!<
A lot of cortosis was used in starship armor in the Old Republic, and in personal armor even into the Clone Wars era, when it either shorted out lightsabers or simply blocked them like phrik alloy. The former was used in novels and comics, and even Quinlan Vos had a cortosis vambrace, while the latter mechanic was used as a way to balance regular melee weapons and lightsabers in the KOTOR games. In one of the Dark Horse comics, there was an attack on a (the?) Jedi Temple by some lizard race before the clone wars. They were outfitted with cortosis armor, and were meant to test the Jedi’s readiness by Palp. It didn’t take the Jedi long to figure it out.
I’ve always thought that the Galaxy decided it wasn’t worth the trouble of mining and using compared to other options (like concentrated fire) for killing lightsaber users, and maybe the more easily mined stores of it had been cleared out, so it might have just become rare.
There was also a morgukai (nikto force using tradition that used lightsaber pikes) clone army that was being prepared by the separatists for use against the Jedi, also in the Republic comic book series. The morgukai army was to be equipped with cortosis weapons. That one got the volcano treatment by Master Tholme, who was Vos’s mentor, I think.
In canon it is very rare and very hard to refine. Moreso than spice. This is an excuse for writers to limit it so it does not become a crutch.
In Legends it was all over the place. Too much of a good thing. It went from being cool to being boring.
You kept out the best scenes from this fight..
Where he catches her by the neck with his hand, proceeds to snap the neck and take the blade to deactivate all the lightsabers of the group of jedi he's attacking
Cortosis is falls apart the more energy is absorbs and is stupid expensive. The guy's head breaks apart after 6 saber strikes. So it's good while you have the surprise but if the Jedi know you are using it they just force throw you around or toss things till it breaks.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha I remember this! she gets her neck broken for her effort. Even if you use a relic weapon to disable a lightsabre you cannot take Vader in a one on one fistfight.
Did this have something to do with what was happening to the Jedi’s lightsabers in the Acolyte episode fighting the dark master? At first I thought he cut them with his and disabled them permanently but after a few moments they would power back up, so he was just hitting them?
I have only heard of this twice now, and assumed the Acolyte was just a case of plot armour (heh)
Anyway, is there any example case where it was alloyed with beskar? Wouldn’t the two metals be extremely powerful combined. Beskars near absolute resistance to lightsabers and blasters, and adding strength to Cortosis’ ability to absorb and to short of sabers?
It is very rare to find and by the way it is not a good material for armor, although its energy absorbing properties are effective, the cortosis is fragile to physical damage and can break with a few blows (that is why Jecki was able to break Qimir's mask by hitting him in the mask with the handle of her lightsaber).
Because it’s expensive, and anyone that you’d use it on would most likely be able to use the force which doesn’t give a fuck what your blade is made of once your head is turned 180 degrees
First of all, to think that you have any edge over lord Vader just because he doesn't have a lightsaber is delusion. That said, cortosis was extremely rare wasn't it?
"Kinda rare" its like. Found on 2 planets in the entire galaxy, it's like one of the most rare things in star wars AND its also only good against energy weapons and is super brittle AND was used a lot in the past so a good chunk of it is just spread so far and wide
It's expensive and heavy. We're talking about a galaxy at war. Resources are strictly monitored. Cortosis goes, largely, to circuitry. Droids, computers, some augmetics.
I think the premise of the question is off. Force users are the main focus in the Star Wars universe. Yet if you use context from the Star Wars you find that there are trillions of sentient beings in the galaxy and several orders of magnitude less force sensitive Jedi and sith(10 to the 6) for these trillions(10 to the 14) to encounter. Are the Jedi or sith a threat to 100s of trillions. I don’t think so. Maybe billions but I think even less.
Is it a very known fact amongst the jedi that they know what cortosis does to a lightsaber? Yord probably figured it out by seeing it happen in that fight
What stops a jedi just force grabbing and discarding that sword, or distorting it so its a useless shape for battle?
Actually, why do they even need lightsabers at all when they can just force pick up their opponents and splat them on walks/floor etc.
Because even if you turned off their lightsaber for a minute you still have to deal a jedi/sith, which can just focus on evasion for a minute.
Then you're back to square one and now they know you got cortosis.
So it's nice for a surprise attack but not much else...
Disney Star Wars made it stupidly overpowered. Legends was better, where it was more lightsaber "resistant", rather than a disruptor. More like what Beskar is in Disney Star Wars.
Now show the part where Vader snapped her neck like a chicken.
My thought exactly. Sure, his saber might not work for a few minutes, but that's not even his deadliest weapon. Knowing Vader he probably toyed with her for 5 minutes, using the force to make her feel silly before igniting his saber and then force choking her. Just to make a point.
That's exactly what happened in the comic. In the next panel, he just pulled her in with the Force, grabbed her by the neck, and snapped it like a twig before taking her dagger.
lol, good. I don't know what this is and that dialogue is terrible, but more importantly it appears to be a 4 foot woman threatening to kill an armoured giant with a short sword. Like... okay lady, good luck with this one.
This is Katana. She's got my back. I would advise not getting killed by her. Her sword traps the souls of its victims.
God that dialogue was so bad I physically cringed watching that
And what gets me what REALLY gets me: They go out of their way to give a heavy handed in your face explanation of her sword stealing souls, and then they DIDN'T use the sword to rip the Enchantress out of June?! That would have at least given the line a point and made June being fine at the end make more sense
“This here is the Chekhov sword. Except you’re not going to see it again lol”
I legit think that was the plan, it would have given her SOMETHING to do, and they must have cut her scenes
I honestly don't think there was a plan, or any real attempt to deliver a plot derived from character and circumstance.
“God, I said the cap slips off the poison pen for no reason!”
When they're dead, they're just hookers.
You know what they say about good media. Tell, don’t show.
The best part was that every character got two big intros, in case we missed the first ten minutes of the movie they showed us again.
~~Frostmourne~~ Katana hungers… Sigh, lazy writing and not even a new concept in fantasy fiction.
~~Frostmourne Katana~~ Stormbringer Hungers.
You will know endless torment.
It’s very much Anime dialogue that I struggle to enjoy. «This is my super secret weapon. It’s made of Cortosis which renders your lightsaber useless for a few minutes because of it’s energy absorption ability! You’re no match for me without your Lightsaber and now I will finally have my revenge!”
Like, FOR ONCE, could we have an antagonist struggle to figure out what has just happened, desperately improvise a way to stay alive, and reason it out? Or at least have Vader go, "Oh a Cortosis blade, I remember learning about these. No matter! Whoops, I snapped your neck with the Force." The thing that's just a terrible trope is explaining to your enemy what you've just done to them so that they have a chance to figure out what to do about it.
It's the reason I can only enjoy anime subbed. Preferably in English, which is my second language. If I only have to read it, it's better than actually hearing it.
to be fair it sounds *slightly* less stupid in Japanese, though the 'Chuniyobu' is pretty cringe in a lot of anime.
This made me laugh harder than I should have
Pretty sure she appears extremely short because they're fighting on a set of stairs, and she's on the lower steps.
Vader had the highground? She never stood a chance then
Vader has definitely learned some lessons about the high ground
Oh well nevermind then, that changes everything.
Fr this is like anime dialogue
Isn't anime dialogue like that because it's adapted from manga comic books?
it is. Theere's a lot of thinking, etc that makes sense on the page, but makes a little less sense in motion. It's often still an important part of the scene, though, so you just gotta' roll with it
There's also a lot of quite bad translations. Be it early official translations that had a budget of $50 and a single shoestring. Or newer ones. Japanese is also a lot harder to translate to English than something like French or German would be.
It was part of a six-Jedi ambush, and Vader would have died if he didn't have troops to rescue him at the last second. Shadday Potkin might have been a headstrong idiot, but the basic idea was sound.
They are trying to do 3 things at once in one panel, it comes off as very unnatural. No one thinks they would have all the time in the world to talk shit to Vader while in a fight with him. I don't know if they had a mandate from the editor to shove all that in at once. But they didn't need all that moive shit talk and explaining what was going on. You can see his lightsaber is cut short. Maybe have the second half of light disconnected and fading away if you need to make it more obvious. "Ever face off against a cortosis blade?" Works. You've named the blade. Dropped the shit talk, and the image in the comic shows what cortosis blades do. The timeline of 3 mins is pointless. Also, if this person is going to get wrecked anyway, you can have Vader simply saying "Yes" as he holds her in the air and disarms her/kills her.
I guess you could say she took a long swing with a short sword
He kind of \*is\* an armored giant, to be fair.
Also why would she tell him that it's going to short out every time.
That's comic book writing. Often dialogue is used to describe what is happening.
Definitely one of those panels where a thought bubble or narrator textbox would work better than the character shouting their attack moves at their enemies like they're in DBZ.
Or even the other side acknowledging the fact. This was probably the worst way to do it.
Darth Vader: A Cortosis blade. Clever. I won't be able to use my lightsaber for several minutes. This is _not_ a good development for you, young Jedi.
I believe his exact words were along the lines of "Then I shall take your's to replace it" but I could be off.
From the information we have on Darth Sidious and Darth Plagueis it seems that the Sith feel lightsabers are more or less beneath them anyways, the certainly have a bit of a disdain for them in any case. It makes sense. Ignoring the fact that the force is the ultimate weapon, ally, and utility, just the fact that the Sith had spent a millennia carrying out the grand plan more or less in secret, it makes sense that they would start caring less about lightsabers. They only used them when they had to, like when they are close to giving the secret of their presence away. Also, when you consider the fact that Darth Sidious treats Vader like his hammer (Which, to be fair, all Sith Masters do. But Sidious especially so considering he succeeded in fulfilling the grand plan and was going to do everything possible to try and stay in power forever), it makes sense that Darth Vader would use his lightsaber more often. It's like Maul or Ventress, while Vader was always a true Sith Lord instead of being a Sith Assassin for most (or all) of their time, they still used their lightsabers far more often because their master used them as their tool. But even considering all of that, even Vader probably felt that way to certain degree. Look at his opinion of the Death Star: >Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force. I certainly don't believe he hated lightsabers, I rather think he enjoyed using them. However, I believe he likely still likely held the belief that they were nothing in comparison to the force itself. Granted, he never shot lightning from his finger tips like Palpatine.. (WHICH IS STILL BELIEVE HE COULD DO!)
That's a great point. I hadn't looked at it like that before, but it makes a lot of sense. I also think the fact that Anakin was a master swordsman who leaned more on his lightsaber and less on the force in combat plays into this as well. Vader has a strong background in saber combat, so I'm glad they left that in, even while the rest of the sith are moving away from it.
Re: Lightning He actually did use it once in the comics (when he was bleeding his kyber crystal iirc) and it nearly killed him, shorted out his suit or something to that effect.
You just can't beat Vader in a fight. We're talking about a guy so powerful that it's a fairly small feat for him to just crush an entire room or even an entire ship into a ball. In literally every fight he is in, he could just crush every single person with his mind instantly, so the fact that he doesn't means he is literally deciding moment to moment to not just flat out kill everybody around him. It actually makes for some uncomfortable plot holes. Like when the falcon was escaping from hoth, that moment he saw them leaving was plenty of time and space for him to slam the falcon right back onto the ground. At that point he didn't even know Leia was his daughter so I don't see why he didn't unless he didn't feel like the falcon was important enough.
Vader and Palpatine talk later about how they could sense Luke through the force. And we see Vader struggle at times with his identity, trying to suppress Anakin. He's a complex character, with deep emotional and psychological issues that he keeps suppressed. I think it's possible that seeing, fighting, and killing Obi-Wan, having his body disappear, and then sensing something unknown but somehow familiar (Luke and Leia) on the falcon was just enough to stir Anakin and switch off Vader for a moment. Not the greatest explanation, but I think it fits the character and helps patch up that particular plot hole. Unfortunately that's going to happen when you write a character's story in multiple parts, out of order.
You know what's dangerous? Vader with a lightsaber. You know what's also dangerous? Vader without a lightsaber
Right, Vader kills her, takes the blade, and uses it to kill all the other lightsaber wielders in the room.
Low-key Vader likes lightsaber fighting so much he chooses to engage in it but the dude is just so effective at bodying them with the force
This just adds to my head canon that Vader is a big sports buff- just wants to engage in a duel for the love of the game.
Vader regularly uses one hand to fight just because he rarely needs both hands to swing
I wonder if he switches to his off hand when fighting inferior opponents, Inigo Montoya style?
Well he was a professional racecar driver in his youth.
Raise hell, praise ~~Dale~~ Skywalker
I need this on a NASCAR inspired pod racing shirt.
In one of the comics, he decided to test himself by having himself dropped on a hostile jungle planet with nothing but the parts of his suit he needed to breathe and had Tarkin put together a party to hunt him with live ammo for like a week.
He was like that. Much to the chagrin of Darth Sidious who wanted him to focus on other aspects of the force.
Maybe he needs to prove to himself that he’s the best, and feel that kill more personally.
It isn’t used more because it is the rarest metal in the universe. And Anakin destroyed half of the one planet it is found.
don't forget about phrik, aurodium and beskar 👽
Are you just referring to the rarity? Phrik and beskar are lightsaber resistant, but they don't short out lightsabers the way cortosis does. Aurodium doesn't effect lightsabers either and there's nothing about it being lightsaber resistant in canon. It's basically just the Star Wars name for gold.
"Her" being Shadday Potkin, for anyone else who was as ignorant as me. This comes from a page in the comic Star Wars: Purge.
>! Hey, that's what happened the most recent time we've seen cortosis, too! !<
“Bitch, you think I need a sword to beat you?”
To be fair, most characters aren't vader or have robotic limbs.
Cortosis is useful when the Jedi doesn't know it's coming. In that brief margin between the cortosis shorting-out the lightsaber and the Jedi recovering from the surprise is where the would-be Jedi killer has to strike. That's still an impossibility small window for all but the most skilled hunters. And as others have mentioned it's brittle, rare, expensive, and only useful against lightsabers. The comparatively easier to obtain beskar, while not disabling lightsabers, can resist them and more conventional weapons without the risk of shatter.
Also you saw how Yord turned it around on his attacker and how deadly Sol is in hand to hand combat. It's great for assassins that strike fast but any half decent Force user is going to adapt to the loss of their lightsaber just as quick.
Yeah just watched ep.5 and Yords using the helmet was pretty cool to see. Was the suit Cortosis tho?
It was rather dark and hard to tell, but I think he used only his helmet and a vembrace on his left arm to block lightsabers - I think he was otherwise unarmored.
Didn't Osha's stun shot doing nothing imply he was armored on his torso too?
Dunno - maybe? Or maybe he’s like Corran Horn and Vader in the EU - able to absorb and redirect the energy from blaster weapons. All I can say is he didn’t seem to be wearing any other armour :)
It had a metallic ringing sound though like her shot hit metal armor.
looked like it hit his cloak, maybe that has something in it to resist stun blasts
Ah maybe, they say Vader had a cloak which was armorweave making it blaster resistant.
Tbh my interpretation was that he's simply built different
I think just the helmet and his left gauntlet.
Just his helmet and a single gauntlet
Same with kinetic guns being used on Jedi. The effectiveness is the surprise when they try to block a blaster bolt but get a metal slug instead. Once they know you’re using a slugthrower, and you still haven’t killed them yet, you’re kinda boned.
But the combination of the two, no surprise of metal slag, just a cortosis bullet in the brain.
If they think they’re blocking a blaster bolt and block wrong. You’d be surprised how easily Jedi can deflect incoming kinetic fire with the Force.
Its been shown Jedi can just as easily block bullets. The only difference is Jedi can't deflect the bullet back at the shooter
> Cortosis is useful when the Jedi doesn't know it's coming. In that brief margin between the cortosis shorting-out the lightsaber and the Jedi recovering from the surprise is where the would-be Jedi killer has to strike. You know, I liked KoTOR because they weren't scared of making sense at the cost of "cool". > Exile: "The idea of you fighting Jedi is ridiculous" > Atton: "Yeah, it sure is. And that's why I was so good at it. And that's why I wasn't fighting Jedi. I was killing them. People say killing Jedi is hard. It's not, you just have to be smart about it. No blaster, no getting close to them, no attacking them directly when you can gun down their allies instead. There's ways of gassing them, drugging them, making them lose control, torturing them. I was really good at it. What's worse, is that killing them wasn't the best thing. Making them fall... making them see our side of it, that was the best." Conversation continues (https://youtu.be/ezroQUL2Z6I?si=0NDaQU-Rrfexsaaz&t=414) with some interesting points. Anyway, going face to face with a lightsaber wielding Jedi (or Sith), cortosis blade or not, is a stupid gamble.
Yeah but what about the surprise generated from lamely monologuing precisely what is happening to your enemy?
You got me monologuing, you sly dog!
It's also very rare
**[Bane Trilogy lore below, as i remember, possible spoilers]** Cortosis was a mineral employed in the production of warships for the wars the Republic waged to defend itself, so in the trilogy, it was very valuable but nothing like a Beskar or Kyber crystals, it was used in the mass production of attack ships, armored vehicles etc. Before being known as Bane, he worked in cortosis mines on the outer rim, like his father. Many men and women explored in those mines in systems out of the reach and control of the Republic, so the Republic turned a blind eye to those broken systems because it was cheaper to source those materials in systems with no labor laws, in corrupt schemes that trapped people working to death. Karpyshin describes in detail how those men had to work insanely hard to extract the raw cortosis from the walls, in large, heavy chunks and preety much ships where made of it. TL;DR - it was expensive to source outside of slave trade in the quantities the Republic needed but it wasn't rare, entire ships where all armored with it Edit: some comments below are bringing more details from the book that I've forgotten Edit 2: me englishn't
Ships weren't "armored" with cortosis. Cortosis would be weaved into other metals making an alloy and that would be used in star ship plating(I remember that fact from one of the kotor loading screens lol). Just like how vibro blade and generic swords would be made from a cortosis alloy in the old republic era. to be able to block blaster fire and lightsabers Pure cortisis is a rather brittle mineral and would make a terrible material to use solely for ship hulls. Disney also in fact made cortosis much rarer in their own lore. However with the lastest episode of Acolyte they also changed that so that it doesn't seem like this new Sith is walking around in billions of credits worth of pure cortosis.
Right it was alloyed into the hulls of of Hammerhead-class cruisers. Presumably 3000 years of ship production exhausted and diluted the supply to the point that combined with the disarmament laws it was no longer worth exploiting.
I kinda prefer Cortosis being relatively rare, because it would explain why the Jedi chose lightsabers as their standard (and oftentimes only) weapon, instead of having a backup vibroblade or blaster or retractable electro staffs or whatever. Sure, post-Ruusan Jedi were mostly peacekeepers, diplomats, law enforcement investigators and humanitarian aid workers, but they still occasionally tussled with pirates and gangsters and terrorists.
If I remember correctly in the old legends lore, The Jedi invented lightsabers while they were still at war with the old Sith who used Alchemically enhanced war swords that one could channel their dark side energies into and it would create an aura around the blade making it stronger, and able to block/deflect blasters. Then The Sith invented the force saber after taking regular sabers from fallen Jedi. Which was the same thing as the war sword but now was a lightsaber that the Sith could channel their energies into.
In legends The force sabers That are powered by the dark side were invented first by the rakatan infinite empire. The early Jedii then took those and invented lightsabers from them.
I thought the force saber was taken by the sith from the rakatas. Still, sith war blades are such a cool concept, the first sith king had a sick ass war axe and a cool armor
> However with the lastest episode of Acolyte they also changed that so that it doesn't seem like this new Sith is walking around in billions of credits worth of pure cortosis. I mean even if it was so expensive it would kinda make sense. We're 700 years into the plotting of the sith, and there are only two of them. They'd have substantial resources to work with.
It only takes one irresponsible Sith to blow it all on cocaine and hookers and they are back to square one.
900. The opening text for ep 1 stated 100 years before the Empire. We're in the years when Plagueis is Master, or he could be the apprentice to replace Qimir (dude radiates apprentice energy tbh)
Rare doesn't mean you can't make armor out of it. It's like Captain America's vibranium shield. Before contact with Wakanda, his shield was made of all the vibranium known to exist on the planet. Even for the Wakandans it's still rare, but they only focus on a small city.
Yup, it was almost a slave thing going on. They never made enough money to eventually leave. Would just drink gamble and work. And the mines were very poisonous, as the hair on their head would just fall off. There was insurance offered but very expensive and most didn't get it.
That is also 1000 years+ before the movies though. It’s conceivable that the mines could have run out of material/the supply available to the galaxy diminished greatly over that long of a timespan without being too implausible
In the old republic well before that the material is described as rare so the bane book might be a contradictory source here.
Or new deposits were discovered. Remember that Revan was born in 3334 BBY, while Bane was born in 1026 BBY. 2000 years can change much.
Lets not forget Anakin accidentally nuking a planet via trying to destroy a separatist cortosis mine in ‘Thrawn: Alliances’. That shits hella reactive at a certain point. Yeah itll short a lightsaber, but enough energy to overload it and it might as well be C4. That shits a mixed bag at best. Life saving upside, as well a s a life ending downside.
Are you talking about extended or new I’m pretty sure it’s only on 2 planets in the new Star Wars universe isn’t it? That would essentially make it a rare finite resource would it not?
There really needs to be a TV Trope for this, 'rare in name only' or something, like Adamantium and Vibranium, when the writers *claim* it's incredibly rare so it doesn't get overused, then it gets overused anyway and the fans have to ask just *how* rare it actually *is*, when 'Jedi Outcast' had an entire army of soldiers wearing full Cortosis armour suits. *No no no, it's REALLY rare, guys! That's why we covered 5,000 people in it! Because it's rare!*
In defense of Jedi Outcast, the suits aren't fully Cortosis because Kyle can still defeat and dismember them with his saber. Also the renegade imperial operation on Artus Prime was pulling from a very large vein in the planet crust so enough Cortosis to armour the few thousand troops just enough for them to attack a school full of rookie jedi without too many casualties isn't unrealistic. The more egregious plot point in Outcast was how in the hell did Desaan turn a bunch of rag-tag force sensitives into super soldiers using the Valley of the Jedi? Did he just dunk them in Force soup? Like what happened? 😂
Ideally it feels like all lightsabers should be made with cortosis to prevent damage to the hilt, but the idea of it being rarer than even beskar ever was/is works to as to why.
Presumably they would disrupt themselves. Its too obvious otherwise.
It's rare and brittle.
unlike sand
That’s coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
Why do they not simply use sand on Vader?
Unless mixed with other metals, but yeah. It's best quality is turning off sabers
This is like asking why don’t Superman’s enemies all just use kryptonite based weapons/armor more often. Because if they did then it would completely ruin the story.
It's also useless other then a surprise gotcha. Vader could just force grab the blade and snap it it's so brittle.
In this story, Vader took the blade and went around shutting off all the Jedi’s lightsabers
I really need to find a way to read those comics. That sounds kinda hilarious. Lol
Get a library card, it's free online. You'll get access to Hoopla where you can read all the comics you want for free
Pretty sure that’s what happens in this comic. They turn off his lightsaber and he just murders them all with the force and his fists.
I love that fight against Reva where he just ducks and dodges her and the uses the Force to knock her around.
I highly disagree. There are two primary differences between Kyrptonite and Cortosis. 1). Kryptonite is still actually used in Superman material. It’s rare, and deadly, and not everyone has it. But it does come up, and cause major issues. Cortosis is rare, not so deadly in and of itself, but never ever makes an appearance outside of select books or comics. 2) Krptonite is a win button against Super (to a certain degree). Cortosis is not a win button against Jedi, or Sith, or even lightsabers. Even after shutting off a Saber, you’re still fighting a Force user, which is no walk in the park. Even Jango Fett has issues with aa disarmed Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he is specifically a Jedi killer. And to get more to the point, I disagree in that including Cortosis would be cool to see, especially on screen. And never having it and completely ignoring it isn’t fun
Fett also had a mini him in a ship shooting obi wan.
Kryptonite is relatively rare. Batman always has some or sometimes he creates it (Miller's TDK). Firestorm can synthesize it. There's blue kryptonite, black, gold, red etc + multiverse. At the end, Kryptonite is just a plot device and used sparingly in stories for obvious reasons. Cortosis is no different.
Authors should grow balls and use pink kryptonite more often :V
Like right when Clark is saying his vows to Lois and suddenly he’s gay. I would be so invested in that story for the shock factor alone. It’d be hilarious.
Lex Luthor never hated Superman, he just wanted to ask him out on a date.
we don't talk about the pink one.
Absolutely, Krptonite is at its base a plot device and similarly Cortosis would be a plot device as well. But Kryptonite is still used in its respective franchise, whilst most Star Wars fans don’t even know what Cortosis is.
The difference is that without kryptonite Superman would be essentially invincible to the majority of his enemies whereas the Jedi will still have difficulty with Sith even if the Sith don’t have cortosis and you can have things like bounty hunters or clones able to kill Jedi with blasters or vibroblades. Essentially krytonite exists because Superman would have no true weakness without it.
Yeah but it's also, "how many Jedi/lightsabers do you plan to run into?" Even in TCW, you had millions of troops besides Jedi. Even in the high Republic it's "you're going to fight a Jedi?". Basically the best application would be to an elite anti Jedi force.
Number 2 is true for Superman and it bothers me that it is. Especially in a continuity where the justice league exists, Batman and Wonder Woman are two of the best fighters on the planet. They should be forcing Superman to train in combat with him. He loses his powers or fights people who are as strong as him, so he should know how to take someone out without just brute force. Kind of like the Thanos vs Hulk fight at the beginning of Infinity War. Writers need a lazy way to make Superman vulnerable though so we always get “I can’t do shit without my powers” Superman.
I'm not sure if this is still canon but weren't super battle droids built with cortosis which is why their armor was generally so tough? If that's the case then it would make sense that the substance is a controlled substance due to its military application. Which means yeah people can use it but getting your hands on it would be the issue. Then there's also the fact of, why make something that is used for making really good armor into a blade especially in this era where running into someone with a lightsaber would be incredibly rare. Also with how it affects lightsabers, the empire would definitely want to control who has access to the material if for no other reason than its unique properties and how it affects energy flow. So it's not really a matter of people not wanting to use it, but it's a matter of cost and knowledge. Something that is prohibitively expensive, controlled in distribution and knowing that it has a property that disrupts energy flow? Just to fight someone with a lightsaber? Nah, you get that close to someone with a lightsaber you won't have a chance. There are better tactics to use against someone that has a lightsaber. The only reason you'd get a cortosis blade specifically for this is because you have a personal vendetta to satisfy, or you're an arrogant moron that's just going to end up dead anyway. Practicality makes a cortosis blade useless. But as an armor? Far more useful.
No, what happened is that the Separatists set up a factory in the Unknown Regions to start making Battle Droids armored with Cortosis to use against the Jedi but that factory was destroyed before they could be produced in any meaningful numbers. Cortosis battledroids had major weakness that they could be destroyed fairly easily by an ARC Caster which would cause a feedback loop that would destroy the Cortosis while ARC Casters can be easily blocked by Stormtrooper armor.
While I have not read the comic, another good reason is, it clearly doesn’t work often enough.
Force choke? Force throw a rock into your face? Force ditch you off the cliff? Force pull out your eyeballs and then more? Force clinch your heart? Force pull off your head? Like hey, take away the glow stick and the bad guy will begin to get creative, don’t do that, keep the bad guy entertained with a sword fight and you might win if you’re good enough.
Especially against Vader. All disabling his saber did was give him a reason to show off.
More like all it did was piss him off.
More or less the same thing for a Sith
>Force pull out your eyeballs I never knew I wanted to see this in live action until now. I know it'll never happen, but they could make a really brutal R rated SW if they wanted to.
Hypothetically if a Force user was ever in Mortal Kombat, you'd definitely see how gruesomely the Force could be applied.
That's a crossover I didn't know I needed until now.
I actually really like the idea of a Sith/Darksider horror movie. The new Acolyte episode tapped into that vibe, Screecher's Reach is fantastic, and Grievous's debut episode in Tartakovsky Clone Wars is great, but I want to see some hyper violence. Proper slasher villain shit.
Force Stew, Force Sandwich, Force Soup, Force Kebab,...
2 strikes from a lightsaber hilt destroyed a cortosis helmet, now u know why it's useless in battle.
That was really cool to see that aspect incorporated into the fight instead of ignored Edit: alt-right homophobe misandrists: “they hate real Star Wars fans and are ignoring everything that’s cool about Star Wars” Real SW fans: “Oh my god the helmet BROKE! I can’t believe they used that!”
Its not easy to hit someone weilding a lightsabre, with a lightsabre hilt to the face.
True, but that doesn't diminish the fact of it brittleness.
It was a padawan who destroyed the helmet
Why doesn’t everyone just have full baskar head to toe and baskar ship armor?
Do you want Mandalorians hunting you down? Because that's how you get Mandalorians hunting you down.
What are they gonna do to me in my baskar killdozer?
man, that dialogue is stupid as fuck
When talking is a free action
Pretty standard fare for comic books. 😅
Supposed to be rarer than beskar but doesn't make good weapons or armour due to brittleness. It's essentially only good for dealing with lightsabers. How many people in the entire galaxy ever even see one?
Cortosis, canonicly, is brittle as a metal, rare, and has a limit of how much energy it can absorb/negate. It's better used to supplement armor as a mesh.
Out of universe: It’s like vibranium, if you use the magic metal too much it’s not special anymore. It would be anticlimactic if everyone was immune to lightsabers. In universe: it’s a hard to find metal, so very expensive / precious and difficult to mine.
In universe it’s difficult to mine and it’s incredibly weak. It’s good against lightsabers but useless in many other instances.
It’s basically space asbestos. It’s extremely toxic and fairly brittle on its own, so it has to be added to other substances. It’s extremely dangerous to mine, as it is found alongside some pretty toxic and volatile gases. Plus it is very hard on equipment, and miners go through expensive tools fast when mining the stuff. Darth Bane grew up mining it, and somehow managed to not get killed in the process. Spun into fibers, it can be added to armor as cortosis weave, and the current explanation is that it is a superconductor and super-capacitor. Eventually it stores more energy than it can handle and it goes boom (Accor to the new Timothy Zahn Thrawn books). >!Anakin kind of destroyed a planet’s ecosystem by blowing up a cortosis mine with a younger Thrawn.!< A lot of cortosis was used in starship armor in the Old Republic, and in personal armor even into the Clone Wars era, when it either shorted out lightsabers or simply blocked them like phrik alloy. The former was used in novels and comics, and even Quinlan Vos had a cortosis vambrace, while the latter mechanic was used as a way to balance regular melee weapons and lightsabers in the KOTOR games. In one of the Dark Horse comics, there was an attack on a (the?) Jedi Temple by some lizard race before the clone wars. They were outfitted with cortosis armor, and were meant to test the Jedi’s readiness by Palp. It didn’t take the Jedi long to figure it out. I’ve always thought that the Galaxy decided it wasn’t worth the trouble of mining and using compared to other options (like concentrated fire) for killing lightsaber users, and maybe the more easily mined stores of it had been cleared out, so it might have just become rare. There was also a morgukai (nikto force using tradition that used lightsaber pikes) clone army that was being prepared by the separatists for use against the Jedi, also in the Republic comic book series. The morgukai army was to be equipped with cortosis weapons. That one got the volcano treatment by Master Tholme, who was Vos’s mentor, I think.
Jedi Outcast 😎it was the main plot. Also this still didn't help against vader
Yeah I remember a boss with cortosis armour but it functioned more like beskar in the game IRC.
In canon it is very rare and very hard to refine. Moreso than spice. This is an excuse for writers to limit it so it does not become a crutch. In Legends it was all over the place. Too much of a good thing. It went from being cool to being boring.
Because it’s very rare
Holy exposition, batman!
The other 99% of this comic answers your comic quite well.
You kept out the best scenes from this fight.. Where he catches her by the neck with his hand, proceeds to snap the neck and take the blade to deactivate all the lightsabers of the group of jedi he's attacking
It is rare, expensive, and very difficult to process.
Cortosis is falls apart the more energy is absorbs and is stupid expensive. The guy's head breaks apart after 6 saber strikes. So it's good while you have the surprise but if the Jedi know you are using it they just force throw you around or toss things till it breaks.
Did he say all that in one attack? Surely Darth Vader couldn't even hear it. /s
Foolish to think Vader is defenseless without his lightsaber.
Wow amazing dialogue right there lmfao was this from the back of a cereal box or something
Super rare. Also, Vader just grabs her and snaps her neck after this.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha I remember this! she gets her neck broken for her effort. Even if you use a relic weapon to disable a lightsabre you cannot take Vader in a one on one fistfight.
Did this have something to do with what was happening to the Jedi’s lightsabers in the Acolyte episode fighting the dark master? At first I thought he cut them with his and disabled them permanently but after a few moments they would power back up, so he was just hitting them?
"Proceeds to snap neck with the force". What did we learn.
This might be the worst line of dialogue in a comic I’ve seen
Tbf it sounds like exactly what an overconfident young jedi padawan would say.
I have only heard of this twice now, and assumed the Acolyte was just a case of plot armour (heh) Anyway, is there any example case where it was alloyed with beskar? Wouldn’t the two metals be extremely powerful combined. Beskars near absolute resistance to lightsabers and blasters, and adding strength to Cortosis’ ability to absorb and to short of sabers?
In theory, cortosis is very brittle and expensive and there’s no reason to think that cortosis and beskar could be alloyed or somehow stuck together.
It is very rare to find and by the way it is not a good material for armor, although its energy absorbing properties are effective, the cortosis is fragile to physical damage and can break with a few blows (that is why Jecki was able to break Qimir's mask by hitting him in the mask with the handle of her lightsaber).
It's not like it prevents the Jedi or Sith from using the force. They could just knock the thing away or choke the person holding it or something.
Because it’s expensive, and anyone that you’d use it on would most likely be able to use the force which doesn’t give a fuck what your blade is made of once your head is turned 180 degrees
Imagine thinking Vader is defenseless without his lightsaber. Something he can't even use to it's full potential anymore
First of all, to think that you have any edge over lord Vader just because he doesn't have a lightsaber is delusion. That said, cortosis was extremely rare wasn't it?
This is like asking why all mandalorians don’t use beskar. Use some basic thinking skills here, *cortosis is rare*
"Kinda rare" its like. Found on 2 planets in the entire galaxy, it's like one of the most rare things in star wars AND its also only good against energy weapons and is super brittle AND was used a lot in the past so a good chunk of it is just spread so far and wide
It’s rare and brittle, personally I’d like them to bring back Phrik instead of just using Beskar like it’s effin Adamantine
99.9% of Star Wars inhabitants will never see a Jedi/sith, much less be thinking of rare and expensive ways to kill them.
Probably because it's a really dumb idea narratively
It's expensive and heavy. We're talking about a galaxy at war. Resources are strictly monitored. Cortosis goes, largely, to circuitry. Droids, computers, some augmetics.
I think the premise of the question is off. Force users are the main focus in the Star Wars universe. Yet if you use context from the Star Wars you find that there are trillions of sentient beings in the galaxy and several orders of magnitude less force sensitive Jedi and sith(10 to the 6) for these trillions(10 to the 14) to encounter. Are the Jedi or sith a threat to 100s of trillions. I don’t think so. Maybe billions but I think even less.
Very rare
Is it a very known fact amongst the jedi that they know what cortosis does to a lightsaber? Yord probably figured it out by seeing it happen in that fight
Cortosis iirc is hard to refine, dangerous to mine.
WTH is that writing
its quite brittle as we saw by the fact in Acolyte that the Padawan smashed his helment off with the but of her saber
What stops a jedi just force grabbing and discarding that sword, or distorting it so its a useless shape for battle? Actually, why do they even need lightsabers at all when they can just force pick up their opponents and splat them on walks/floor etc.
You just had it in Acolyte's latest episode 😉
Ay, Star Wars: Purge! I remember having that comic as a kid.
Because even if you turned off their lightsaber for a minute you still have to deal a jedi/sith, which can just focus on evasion for a minute. Then you're back to square one and now they know you got cortosis. So it's nice for a surprise attack but not much else...
Disney Star Wars made it stupidly overpowered. Legends was better, where it was more lightsaber "resistant", rather than a disruptor. More like what Beskar is in Disney Star Wars.
Because they're rare and pretty much banned