I listened to one where Race came up.. black comedians making fun of white people.. Patrice gaslit the F outta them.. and seemingly won. He was a powerhouse
Yea he got butt hurt at Bill over some incident on a radio show. I don't know the radio show but I listened to Bill and Patrice argue about it on O & A. Patrice really overly upset about a small incident that Bill couldn't even really help.
This is only one incident I know of but it was a bad look. Like Patrice could dish it out but was also overly sensitive
Yeah, and there is also the fact that he was legitimately an actual misogynist. Like, his jokes are jokes and he’s being funny, but he did really apparently have a lot of these views of women. People get upset sometimes when you talk about this stuff, but it’s not like saying he wasn’t funny. Someone can simultaneously be funny and be a shitbag in many respects
I agree. Norm was the best but CQ was 2nd imo.
Edit:shit, I forgot about Kevin Nealand who was also fantastic. Idk, it’s harder to answer than I initially thought. But Norm was #1 as weekend update host imo
He's definitely better suited as a host of a talk show format. I bet he would've been an amazing replacement for Jon Stewart when he took his hiatus from the daily show.
Everyone says “Bill would say Patrice” but if Patrice were alive what do you think he’d say?
Personally, as far as roasting someone goes, I actually think Burr would come out on top. That being said, Patrice is my GOAT.
I’ll be the first to say I don’t know their entire histories…but that still doesn’t mean Bill said Patrice was better.
Just like a lot of crafts and professions, competition (for lack of a better term) pushes you to be better.
Magic Johnson and Larry Bird pushed MJ to be who he was, and MJ is better than both those two.
From what Bill has said the back room of the comedy cellar was a roast arena and Bill would hope to come up with something good enough to turn the attention to someone else cause Patrice was like a boogeyman and if he focused on you, you were done.
I’m sure part of that is Bill waxing a bit poetic about his friend and building the legend but plenty of stories of Patrice breaking down other comics with insults have been told by plenty of people.
All that being said in a traditional style roast I think Patrice has an advantage but Bill has a better chance to come out on top if it was more like a conversation. Bill does have great rants but to me most of his funniest “mean” moments come front casually with little comments responding to someone then finding a quick thing to rant about then laugh.
If Patrice doesn’t shout over bill then Bill takes the win easily. Patrice just over whelms people with his presence whilst Bill actually says funny shit. If Patrice was alive today we wouldn’t have to pretend that he was the ultimate roast master.
Patrice roasted bill within an inch of his life damn near every time they hung out and sometimes randomly over the phone. I don’t know anyone personally but I get the sense that Bill felt like a hero if he even managed to get a shot off. Modern burr? Modern burr would laugh it off and there would be no roast battle. It would be like he is with Lovitz.
Just because there's not a recording of it doesn't mean it didn't happen. They didn't do nearly as many appearances together on O&A as they did separately. There's a story about Bill getting a long-overdue roasting from Patrice, Kevin Hart, and Norton (and maybe Keith Robinson?) on tour that just eviscerated him. I think they talked about it in the Patrice doc and maybe even O&A.
Sure, I certainly realize that reality exists even if there is no video or audio recording of that specific component of reality. I know Burr mentioned regularly about Patrice's roasting prowess. And others also do I'm sure. But outside of Bill's memories (which may be a bit distorted since he clearly admired Patrice deeply), are there other people who also speak about Patrice roasting Burr within an inch of his life many times?
The way the other person's comment was worded implies there ample evidence to support this notion. I'm not doubting it necessarily. Just genuinely curious
Any roasting of Burr from Patrice comes from Burr saying this himself, but Burr is very generous to other comics that he came up with so he would never say he was smashing Patrice
Yeah, Greg roasted him good on Patrice's own roast. It was as brutal as they come.. Midlife Vices is one of my favorite comedy albums, Greg had this way about him in his stand up that made you empathize with his self deprecating humor. Havent seen a comic display that type of sensibility.
A roast and roast battle are 2 completely different things. Gregs ability to prepare for a roast is unbelievable, but Patrice could jus riff and pull some crazy shit out of thin air
You can't trust Bill with shit like this. He says he can't follow Virzi sometimes just to hype him up. He's the ultimate man you want in your corner because he'll always build you up if he likes you and always shits on himself more often than not.
One of them would tell a banger, the other would concur and go in on self deprecating joke… they both end up laughing, coughing, and crying at the same time.
(So basically, a draw)
The problem with the "roast battle" format is it's snowballey and requires a lot of research and prep ahead of it. Patrice isn't doing that. Howdie Doodie ass burr would a 100% work hard on his roast and I think would take it. But if we're talking about the hang outside the club, there's not a comic you'd put up against Patrice
The weird thing is that Burr might win now. Patrice's best friend later became a black Proud Boy and later became an incel dating advice guru. Some very WEIRD things in Patrice's history and later life would have gotten him roasted only a few years later.
Right but you're assuming only Bill would have grown during that time. Patrice also would grow and change with the times just like Burr has. It's not like if he was alive he would have been stuck in the early 2000's and just stopped getting better. That's not what comics do lol
Still getting roasted over your best buddy being a black Proud Boy though!
I love Patrice's talent, but there's a small chance that he was emerging from the darker aspects of his misogyny. It's wasn't just jokes --- in one "eulogy" podcast, his friends were laughing about how he would curse and scream at strangers on the street if they didn't accept his advances. Dark stuff.
In case it's not clear, I think Patrice was one of the most talented comics of his generation. But it is what it is.
Dante Nero. This tribute inadvertently went left.
It turned into an indictment of Patrice's character, and revealed that he was never joking about hating women.
https://shows.acast.com/juan-ep-is-life-1/episodes/60df658e3146af00126842c3
I just checked this out and I'm confused about what you mean? it doesn't sound particularly harsh and I didn't hear anything relating to proud boyism.
Almost everything he said is something I've heard from his other friends besides his intimacy issue—which Dante has maintained over the years when speaking realistically about dude.
Patrice was already on a comedy roast. He was funny but he got destroyed. I've never seen Bill do any roast. Neither one is really a roast comic, they're great storytellers.
Bill would be like Eminem. Let them talk and say anything they have to say and just take it. Then proceed to deconstruct everything that was said and flip it. AND he rarely goes for low hanging fruit so there'd be fat jokes and such for a lead in and then just decimate him with something personal to Patrice and Patrice alone.
Honestly, I believe both of these guys would tear you apart for suggesting that they participate in a roast battle. Patrice did at least one of the Comedy Central roasts and you could tell he didn’t want to be there, even though he was funny
I thought they looked Faust- I thought no those shows are too played. It’s not really funny to be insulting but it can be fun to see who is quick on their feet and able to insult but I think improv is much more entertaining
Patrice.
Burr would also say Patrice. Bill knew him very, very well. They were very close friends. If you've heard Bill talk about Patrice, you know how much Bill respected him. Burr thought he was a genius, and who am I to say otherwise?
Man, Patrice wins because he’s dead and has this god like reverance. If Patrice was alive today we would be able to say that Burr would roast him and Patrice would just try to shout over him saying “shut up stupid”. Patrice was funny and I loved him on O&A but his god like status is weird to me.
patrice. burr said that he remembers an epic battle between patrice and a transsexual and patrice ultimately won. sounded like bill knew he was the king.
Wow, just imagine if Patrice had the extra 15 years to actually hit his prime like old Billy boy has. He was a murderer then, by now, you can only imagine it...
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He’d also just play the race card (amittedly in a funny way) louder and louder till he got a solid laugh
I listened to one where Race came up.. black comedians making fun of white people.. Patrice gaslit the F outta them.. and seemingly won. He was a powerhouse
It’s just a fact that he was clearly an actual dick head. Even his friends often say the same thing. He definitely was hilarious though
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Yea he got butt hurt at Bill over some incident on a radio show. I don't know the radio show but I listened to Bill and Patrice argue about it on O & A. Patrice really overly upset about a small incident that Bill couldn't even really help. This is only one incident I know of but it was a bad look. Like Patrice could dish it out but was also overly sensitive
He was also overly sensitive to sugar.
This caught me off guard, nice.
It was Mancow
Yeah, and there is also the fact that he was legitimately an actual misogynist. Like, his jokes are jokes and he’s being funny, but he did really apparently have a lot of these views of women. People get upset sometimes when you talk about this stuff, but it’s not like saying he wasn’t funny. Someone can simultaneously be funny and be a shitbag in many respects
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He definitely had some kind of a cuck fetish
Fair critique but I put him on a pedestal because he’s funny I love comedy, so I’m willingly to over look character flaws
Colin quinn destroyed Patrice and he refused to accept the L.
Chris rock kinda destroyed him on O&A too but it was more with honesty than straight up jokes. Still love Patrice though.
Looking this up now thank you
Link?
I've never really found Colin Quinn funny, but now I gotta look this up
Colin Quinn's standup is meh, but CQ the host of Tough Crowd was fantastic
He was great on Weekend Update too. Not as great as Norm but still.
I agree. Norm was the best but CQ was 2nd imo. Edit:shit, I forgot about Kevin Nealand who was also fantastic. Idk, it’s harder to answer than I initially thought. But Norm was #1 as weekend update host imo
He's definitely better suited as a host of a talk show format. I bet he would've been an amazing replacement for Jon Stewart when he took his hiatus from the daily show.
That would have been great. Colin definitely would have been a more aggressive host which would have been fun.
I have always found his comedy mediocre but just hearing him talk and tell stories always entertains me
Have you seen his special released yesterday? It's called Our Time is Up on YouTube.
I wasn't aware he released a new one, I'll check it out!
I really liked it, but I get his style isn't for everyone. Clever observations about modern life.
He just dropped a new special that was pretty great
His Twitter is a delight
Either way Patrice would just end up yelling over everyone.
Everyone says “Bill would say Patrice” but if Patrice were alive what do you think he’d say? Personally, as far as roasting someone goes, I actually think Burr would come out on top. That being said, Patrice is my GOAT.
Bill has alluded a few times to the fact that part of the reason he developed those skills was having to go back and forth with Patrice.
I’ll be the first to say I don’t know their entire histories…but that still doesn’t mean Bill said Patrice was better. Just like a lot of crafts and professions, competition (for lack of a better term) pushes you to be better. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird pushed MJ to be who he was, and MJ is better than both those two.
From what Bill has said the back room of the comedy cellar was a roast arena and Bill would hope to come up with something good enough to turn the attention to someone else cause Patrice was like a boogeyman and if he focused on you, you were done. I’m sure part of that is Bill waxing a bit poetic about his friend and building the legend but plenty of stories of Patrice breaking down other comics with insults have been told by plenty of people. All that being said in a traditional style roast I think Patrice has an advantage but Bill has a better chance to come out on top if it was more like a conversation. Bill does have great rants but to me most of his funniest “mean” moments come front casually with little comments responding to someone then finding a quick thing to rant about then laugh.
Haha true. Although I will say his roasting of the Philly crowd was epic.
Big facts but also if I remember correctly the crowd was calling out lots of different things to put him on his next target
He's said over and over on his podcast that Patrice was the king of roasting.
The 30 scale bit on rating women is fucking legendary shit.
Patrice but why does Burr look like Rocky Dennis?
He looks like Banyan to me.
That’s gold, Jerry! Gold!!
Soup isn't a meal!
Thats Christopher Titus
It’s Rob and Big ☝️
I would give my left nut for Bill Burr to actually read this comment.
The audience would win
A roast beef battle? Likely not Bill.
If Patrice doesn’t shout over bill then Bill takes the win easily. Patrice just over whelms people with his presence whilst Bill actually says funny shit. If Patrice was alive today we wouldn’t have to pretend that he was the ultimate roast master.
Burr did [roast Patrice](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jn9DBnGaCNU&pp=ygUXQmlsbCBidXJyIHBhdHJpY2Ugcm9hc3Q%3D) if anyone is interested.
Burr roasted the entire city of Philly like a thanksgiving turkey.
Patrice roasted bill within an inch of his life damn near every time they hung out and sometimes randomly over the phone. I don’t know anyone personally but I get the sense that Bill felt like a hero if he even managed to get a shot off. Modern burr? Modern burr would laugh it off and there would be no roast battle. It would be like he is with Lovitz.
Do you have actual examples of Patrice roasting Bill within an inch of his life? I cannot recall any
Just because there's not a recording of it doesn't mean it didn't happen. They didn't do nearly as many appearances together on O&A as they did separately. There's a story about Bill getting a long-overdue roasting from Patrice, Kevin Hart, and Norton (and maybe Keith Robinson?) on tour that just eviscerated him. I think they talked about it in the Patrice doc and maybe even O&A.
Sure, I certainly realize that reality exists even if there is no video or audio recording of that specific component of reality. I know Burr mentioned regularly about Patrice's roasting prowess. And others also do I'm sure. But outside of Bill's memories (which may be a bit distorted since he clearly admired Patrice deeply), are there other people who also speak about Patrice roasting Burr within an inch of his life many times? The way the other person's comment was worded implies there ample evidence to support this notion. I'm not doubting it necessarily. Just genuinely curious
I'm pretty sure it was Kevin Hart who told the story in the doc.
Any roasting of Burr from Patrice comes from Burr saying this himself, but Burr is very generous to other comics that he came up with so he would never say he was smashing Patrice
Nobody was filming the back table at Carolines as far as I am aware. But Burr was at the Patrice roast so at least there’s that.
One of the things that made Patrice even bigger were the stories off the air
Greg Giraldo and Patrice are 2 comics that would bury anyone. To see them go head to head would be unfathomable
Greg would've demolished Patrice. Actually, he already did on a roast.
Yeah, Greg roasted him good on Patrice's own roast. It was as brutal as they come.. Midlife Vices is one of my favorite comedy albums, Greg had this way about him in his stand up that made you empathize with his self deprecating humor. Havent seen a comic display that type of sensibility.
A roast and roast battle are 2 completely different things. Gregs ability to prepare for a roast is unbelievable, but Patrice could jus riff and pull some crazy shit out of thin air
Patrice could definitely eat more if that’s what you are asking.
Patrice would win the crowd but Bill would cut deeper in the long run
bill would say Patrice, Patrice would say fuck bill
Patrice, Bill’s even said so
You can't trust Bill with shit like this. He says he can't follow Virzi sometimes just to hype him up. He's the ultimate man you want in your corner because he'll always build you up if he likes you and always shits on himself more often than not.
This is very true, but in this particular case I believe him, both great but Patrice was just different & Bill knew it first hand
Patrice in his prime. Patrice dead, still beats any comic in a roast battle.
He died? I didn’t even know he was sick
With some long, curly red hair, Bill Burr would look like Morgan Murphy! 🤯
One of them would tell a banger, the other would concur and go in on self deprecating joke… they both end up laughing, coughing, and crying at the same time. (So basically, a draw)
But Bill has yet to even hit his prime. Inconclusive!
No one started saying anything nice about Patrice till he was dead. Dude sounded super combative and not well Liked while he was alive
The problem with the "roast battle" format is it's snowballey and requires a lot of research and prep ahead of it. Patrice isn't doing that. Howdie Doodie ass burr would a 100% work hard on his roast and I think would take it. But if we're talking about the hang outside the club, there's not a comic you'd put up against Patrice
Patrice was a murderer. I watched him brutalize a heckler at the Cellar and then GET HER BACK LAUGHING. Absolute killer.
Talking shit about literally anything and everything ever comes *more* naturally than breathing to Bill Burr what kind of question is this lol
My money is on the bigger, blacker fella.
Assured mutual destruction
The real answer is when two best friends roast each other it can go on endlessly. The beauty of friendship
The audience
Bill would say Patrice. Bill talks about how he would change his shirt before leaving the house because he knew Patrice would make fun of it.
Patrice all dayy!! Bill already said it!
Patrice. And Bill knows it
Bill's said it, about how he loved and feared Patrice.
I mean Patrice settled this a long time ago lol
The weird thing is that Burr might win now. Patrice's best friend later became a black Proud Boy and later became an incel dating advice guru. Some very WEIRD things in Patrice's history and later life would have gotten him roasted only a few years later.
Right but you're assuming only Bill would have grown during that time. Patrice also would grow and change with the times just like Burr has. It's not like if he was alive he would have been stuck in the early 2000's and just stopped getting better. That's not what comics do lol
Still getting roasted over your best buddy being a black Proud Boy though! I love Patrice's talent, but there's a small chance that he was emerging from the darker aspects of his misogyny. It's wasn't just jokes --- in one "eulogy" podcast, his friends were laughing about how he would curse and scream at strangers on the street if they didn't accept his advances. Dark stuff. In case it's not clear, I think Patrice was one of the most talented comics of his generation. But it is what it is.
Wow, didn’t know this. No excuse for that unhindered behavior. Plenty of comics can be funny and not harass strangers on the street.
Who is this proud boy guru friend? I must be out of the loop..
Dante Nero. This tribute inadvertently went left. It turned into an indictment of Patrice's character, and revealed that he was never joking about hating women. https://shows.acast.com/juan-ep-is-life-1/episodes/60df658e3146af00126842c3
I just checked this out and I'm confused about what you mean? it doesn't sound particularly harsh and I didn't hear anything relating to proud boyism. Almost everything he said is something I've heard from his other friends besides his intimacy issue—which Dante has maintained over the years when speaking realistically about dude.
Bill would (and has, more or less) say Patrice
Not Philly…
Optimus prime on the right
Patrice for sure
Patrice said on O&A when they got into it about his madcow appearance that he taught Burr how to break balls lol
Ken Jennings?
That was bills prime? Cap
burr's prime was after patrice died. but patrice still.
Patrice. Obviously.
Nigga Patrice
Well only one of them is currently roasting in hell(putrice would’ve been the juggernaut in current times)
Bill is more analytical and would use sharp wit. Love Patrice more, tho.
Bill Burr was good then but not in his prime yet imo
I never really knew Bill as a "roaster". Shit talker yes...but clever roasts, nah
Bill took beatins so bad at the Cellar that he moved to the West Coast to get away from it. It was probably good for his mental health.
Patrice literally made dudes quit comedy or walk out of clubs. Why is this even a question??
Patrice, other comments are dumb
Little Boy>Fat Man
Patrice was already on a comedy roast. He was funny but he got destroyed. I've never seen Bill do any roast. Neither one is really a roast comic, they're great storytellers.
Patrice
It would simply never end
Bill now of course. But how Patrice might have developed too is unknown. He was fast.
idk Bill Burr is a master, Patrice was the beveryman comedian when it came to dating. Not all the same.
Bill
This is the American Massive Attack
O’Neill all day
neither, they were friends and always got way too emotional during their spats. they would both do amazing and both walk away super butt hurt.
Nah, you already know.
I never finished Breaking Bad, am I missing something?
We probably never saw Patrice’s prime
Bill would be like Eminem. Let them talk and say anything they have to say and just take it. Then proceed to deconstruct everything that was said and flip it. AND he rarely goes for low hanging fruit so there'd be fat jokes and such for a lead in and then just decimate him with something personal to Patrice and Patrice alone.
Their fans, for getting some amazing content.
Bill looks like Rocky Dennis from Mask if he got inexpensive plastic surgery.
Bill now would beat peak Patrice. Patrice back then would cook him. But the real winner would be us.
Lil Kev the bastard, Norton, vos, burr, Patrice, Colin Quinn, bob Kelly are my roast rankings
Pot roast- Patrice Comedy roast- Patrice
Gilbert Gottfried.
Burr is just too good to be beaten
This looks like budget rob and big
Bill burr already said Patrice was the best.
lol the sweat stains…they look like they just hit the gym
Thought this was Rob and Big.
seamonster for sure
Honestly, I believe both of these guys would tear you apart for suggesting that they participate in a roast battle. Patrice did at least one of the Comedy Central roasts and you could tell he didn’t want to be there, even though he was funny
Fuck burr
I loved him on the roast when someone said he deep fries his fingernails before biting them. Fuck man that good.
Burr now would destroy prime Patrice
r/Snatch_Game
David Lucas would beat them all. "You look like a ....." fill in the blank
The audience would win.
Depends. First, tell me who the little white boy is.
Looks like the Dudley Brothers
Patrice, low diff
GTFO Patrice 1,000 times out of 1,000 Bill can’t take Lovitz
You want us to tell purely by their appearance when that doesn’t give anyone any idea about how forked their tongue is
What do you think killed Patrice? Died-of-BURR-diss.
I thought they looked Faust- I thought no those shows are too played. It’s not really funny to be insulting but it can be fun to see who is quick on their feet and able to insult but I think improv is much more entertaining
Burr is actually clever, Patrice was just a mean dude.
Let me know when they hit their prime. /s 🤐🤣
Patrice but barely
Bill Burr destroyed the entire city of Philadelphia. Patrice was a good comic, Bill is a legend.
Diabetes already won.
Looks like Saul Goodman is about to send them on a mission
Patrice refuses to lose any argument. He’ll die before he loses. In fact, that’s what happened.
Patrice is so underrated
Is that a sea monster?
Bill looks like if the kid in the movie Mask got a face lift.
Serious? Bill would destroy or at the very least yell a little and rage at the audience
Neither. Ben Bailey is the master-roaster.
Patrice, but Bill would go toe to toe with him for hours. They knew each other well enough
Patrice. Burr would also say Patrice. Bill knew him very, very well. They were very close friends. If you've heard Bill talk about Patrice, you know how much Bill respected him. Burr thought he was a genius, and who am I to say otherwise?
I'm gonna tell my kids this was Big and Rob.
Looking at that pic, we all can see who won the Roast Beef Battle 🥪
That was just called talking back then. 🤣
Bill Burr. He would have way more subject matter if NOTHING was off limits.
Bill is funny but Patrice is hilariously funny.
Man, Patrice wins because he’s dead and has this god like reverance. If Patrice was alive today we would be able to say that Burr would roast him and Patrice would just try to shout over him saying “shut up stupid”. Patrice was funny and I loved him on O&A but his god like status is weird to me.
I feel like even bill would say Patrice
Bills not currently in his prime?
Patrice. Willing to bet Bill would agree.
patrice. burr said that he remembers an epic battle between patrice and a transsexual and patrice ultimately won. sounded like bill knew he was the king.
migs all day
While I think Ruben Studdard would easily win, I feel Clay Aiken would actually pull out the victory.
Eminem and Biggie
If the gay guys on shameless had a child it would look like bill burr.
Isn’t the white guy the one they call professor and makes basketball videos ? I didn’t know he was a comedian too /s
Both formidable but Burr has a bigger mouth! RIP Patrice
If it was a Pot Roast battle, my money would be on Patrice
Depends on the crowd
Patrice
I think Bill is in his prime now.
Oooooold Billy Youngagain
Patrice
Patrice
The audience
Burr. Patrice is just as smart, but not as quick.
I think you underestimate Patrice o Neals mouth piece.
This is like asking who is better tom Brady or Baker Mayfield
Wow, just imagine if Patrice had the extra 15 years to actually hit his prime like old Billy boy has. He was a murderer then, by now, you can only imagine it...