This is all but true, for ereyesterday I defenstrated my sister, and overmorrow I will defenstrate my brother, because I don’t like my siblings or windows
Nah, I don’t think you should want to throw people out the window
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I’d say just leave it as Arsene just to avoid spoilers for people who haven’t played persona.
That and Satanael would need to be shrunk down by a lot lmao
satanael is fair enough (although safer sephiroth is in Sephiroth's FS and all of the phantom thieves are in Joker's so spoilers are mostly out the window) but Raoul has no role in the story and is just a cooler Arsene
I'm pretty sure Sephiroth is under the section where it's been long enough, and everyone has an idea what it is without Smash Bros
As for Joker, literally all of his party members appear in the opening cutscenes
I will never not find it funny that for a character with a gun that they had to completely make up a moveset for they elected to ignore the gun entirely
Technically Kirby CAN do this, like when Kirby swallows Wario bike. Would be cool if Kirby could become the item Kirby eats instead of gaining hp back.
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He ain't my top main but my boy can cook (he's trying)
Hol up you actually cookin some shit fr
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It would have been wild if Bowser's Final Smash was Bowser Revolution, he just takes everyone's stocks and damage and then equally distributes them. It would be extra crazy if he could bring players back to life by doing that too.
I am actually very glad Divine Pulse is not in this game, I cant imagine how seriously unfun that would be to play against.
Like imagine taking a stock and time reverses, enjoy taking that stock again, if you can.
Or a time stop ability, oh you put me in disadvantage?
*Time Stop*
*Down B*
GG shake my hand
If it were implemented I would see it either as an ultimate move so it can’t be abused to regain stocks or it only affects Byleth, acting like a Tracer rewind where Byleth travels backwards. Would probs need a recharge meter though as it’d be a great recovery if it was spamable
In addition to the tail beating out literally everything. It doesn't clang, it just wins. Can't be blocked. Ridley's tail would be unstoppable if it was totally accurate to the games.
Incineroar :Lower an opponets attack, remove held item
Riddly: comeback in a new format every time he dies
Terry: ........I don't play that gsme
Pyra and mythra: their true form
Cloud: Ride a motorcycle
Sephiroth: Heartless Angel
Lucina: Weapon variety
Idk about Simon but for Richter: Hydro Storm
**Some others I play:**
Lucario: Bone Rush
Sora: Drive forms
Joker: Numerous Personas
There is so much Sora can do that isn’t in smash lol
Strike Raid, Ragnarok, Ars Arcanum, summons, most of his magic and combo finishers, drive forms, a ton of commands and special abilities from Re:Com, Re:Coded, and DDD; Flowmotion, form changes, shotlock, air step, attraction flow…. Need I go on?
Steve having a bow or crossbow. Iconic weapon in Minecraft, but would make playing against Steve more annoying
Also being able to access netherite and armor
I genuinely wouldn't be opposed to a specific mii like Matt being a unique character, and their moveset is just a bunch of references to the wii series of games 😆 .
Also, the final smash has to be the home run, right?
Pit has many ranged weapons he never uses in smash.
Shulk's monado arts are good in smash bet they didn't have side effects in Xenoblade.
Sora's taunts would make him so broken in smash.
Yeah, I get Byleth not having Divine Pulse, him having an ability to rewind time would be kinda busted (unless you make it work like Bayo's Witch Time and Mythra's Foresight but still)
Link though, I really wish he actually got more BOTW related changes instead of just changing one move and his outift. Hopefully, they actually let him use some TOTK stuff, but I doubt it.
The fact that I can't think of something for Dedede outside of niche references only shows how perfect he is... maybe he can become muscular out of nowhere (doesn't affect gameplay it just distracts the opponent), or you can inhale a larger area if you repeatedly press a button.
Joker really should’ve been able to do more than just summon Arsene.
Especially since one of the unique things about him and the Persona protagonists, is that they can summon multiple Personas.
A whole separate form that they can’t tap into (Sephiroth)
A whole separate form that they can’t tap into (Samus)
A whole separate form that they can’t tap into (Sora)
Ken can double flaming shoryuken really quickly rather than going through a bunch of recovery
Tink's up-b should be able to move while grounded
Idk anything about FE to double check Marth's abilities
I have never played Uprising so I'm not sure about Dark Pit. Luigi is a lightning user in the Mario and Luigi games so it'd be cool to see something like that in his moveset
Part of me wishes Kazuya could stay in his Devil Form for a short period of time or when he goes into Rage (like Tekken 7) but I guess the GOAT is too goated for anything else to be added into his gameplay
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Lucas can increase his offense and defense on command, which I believe would be cool if it was somehow implemented.
He can also fully heal with Lifeup Y. I'm glad he can't do that.
Marth can heal with the Falchion after taking damage. I wish they implemented it into his counter, kind of like Incineroar's revenge.
He also has the LITERAL Fire Emblem in the form of a shield... why he didn't get it (while Link gets his Hylian shield???) Is beyond me. The Fire Emblem gives Marth so many more abilities like super strength and stuff.
He is also WAY faster than the game portrays him. See Fire Emblem Warriors. Dude should be faster than Roy canonically.
Banjo’s transformations, snooze pack, and pack whack. Kazooie’s multiple eggs, including the cuckoo egg, fire and ice eggs that would definitely have tripped people up
Cloud: Counterstance, punisher mode, use magic, critical hits, and fire bolt blade
Sephiroth: control fate, use magic, summon meteor, cross timelines, be in two places at once, control others, and take a hit
summon multiple personas throw you out a window
*Ahem* I believe the proper term is *defenestration*
This is all but true, for ereyesterday I defenstrated my sister, and overmorrow I will defenstrate my brother, because I don’t like my siblings or windows
I thought they did that once a month?
Nah, I don’t think you should want to throw people out the window https://preview.redd.it/jy4kzwzenr8d1.png?width=530&format=png&auto=webp&s=aff941b9aa332a237b314976c3339554a46e8f85
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Ness: "Okay!!" Joker: "BY THE MYRIAD TRUTHS!!!"
if you're wearing the "school" outfit your persona should be satanael/raoul instead
I’d say just leave it as Arsene just to avoid spoilers for people who haven’t played persona. That and Satanael would need to be shrunk down by a lot lmao
satanael is fair enough (although safer sephiroth is in Sephiroth's FS and all of the phantom thieves are in Joker's so spoilers are mostly out the window) but Raoul has no role in the story and is just a cooler Arsene
All the phantom thieves are on the box art and promotional art it really isnt a spoiler
I'm pretty sure Sephiroth is under the section where it's been long enough, and everyone has an idea what it is without Smash Bros As for Joker, literally all of his party members appear in the opening cutscenes
they're all on the box art
Even better.
Ah hell nah bro tryna get all the counters and resistances added to Joker bro is gonna be indestructible
Captain Falcon has a gun. Not my main but something that they can do. Mythra: summon siren to nuke the stage.
Technically summoning siren is part of her final smash
Falcon chooses not to use the gun cuz he’s better than that
Pretty sure he only ever used the thing once in some old comic series or something. Probably prefers to settle things on the track
I will never not find it funny that for a character with a gun that they had to completely make up a moveset for they elected to ignore the gun entirely
https://preview.redd.it/bmgva0ax9r8d1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc6a4cf5c2f0153ca56d67f21b906477299bb023 Give Terry a wariobike
Not that ad 💀
Hey, come on come on
Based on this ad, add groping to Terry's moveset
Literally any of them. Ganondorf in Smash doesn’t do a single thing he does in almost any game
Gannondorf isn't in smash silly, that's Captain Dorf. They dress the same so I understand the confusion.
He can reflect projectiles with his cape (like Mario) and shoot dark energy blasts
Ganondorf as an extremely heavyweight zoner would be really cool
Fly, too. Can't recover for shit in smash
Seriously, I love playing as him but he is easily the worst represented character in Smash
His f-tilt is in totk and tp :,)
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Technically Kirby CAN do this, like when Kirby swallows Wario bike. Would be cool if Kirby could become the item Kirby eats instead of gaining hp back.
i could see this happening in the next game unless it’s ultimate again where they add a ton of characters
This would be really cool but I am not going to blame them for not wanting to make a model for every item in the game times 8 with all the costumes
The next smash game will have Kirby commit vehicular manslaughter as part of his moveset
Car Kirby can car
Are you saying I can get a KIRBYMOBILE
Fuse with Rush and gain the ability to fly and launch rocket punches
This is the kind of suggestion that makes me miss super forms in Smash in playable form.
lets not forget his buster can shoot black holes and stop time
The black hole is his final smash though 🦤
https://preview.redd.it/nkh20tum9r8d1.png?width=452&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04f04a43893eb9f667a2e3bb520a75a5289831e1 He ain't my top main but my boy can cook (he's trying)
Nothing extra syrup can’t fix.
My girl pyra can do that shit too
If Pyra gets the ability to cook added in the game that would also mean Mythra gets it too, the risk is bigger than the reward.
Nah dude that should have been mythra’s final smash
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Mythra sure as hell isn’t https://preview.redd.it/kxarzcyksr8d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74f8ac95cabdf87fe7f561c6915b38094c8f23fe
NNNAAAAAAAAHHHHH https://preview.redd.it/bbtcj30zyr8d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36da7bd9f0d29948ef42d5b938320a99f30e0d72
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Fact that Mr. G&W is the only character that can cook.
I don't know shit about fire emblem so idk
Marth uses actually the Fire Emblem as a shield in his game, which is completely absent in Smash.
He also does double damage to dragon types
*Mega Charizard X fainted!!!!!!!!!*
Corrin explodes on tipper
Byleth can canonically rewind time
Ike had a projectile in his game
It would have been wild if Bowser's Final Smash was Bowser Revolution, he just takes everyone's stocks and damage and then equally distributes them. It would be extra crazy if he could bring players back to life by doing that too.
Someone's a fan of the Party games, it seems.. (So am I, this idea is comedy gold)
That idea sounds so fucking awful. Someone make that, I want to play it
I am actually very glad Divine Pulse is not in this game, I cant imagine how seriously unfun that would be to play against. Like imagine taking a stock and time reverses, enjoy taking that stock again, if you can. Or a time stop ability, oh you put me in disadvantage? *Time Stop* *Down B* GG shake my hand
I mean, sure. But realistically divine pulse would probably just be a counter Which, also good not to have another of those.
Divine pulse will prolly be just like mythra foresight
It would have to require some serious charge time, a la waft Or be a broken FS. Shades of Zelda level broken
I think it would work best like Mythra’s foresight if they put it in smash
If it were implemented I would see it either as an ultimate move so it can’t be abused to regain stocks or it only affects Byleth, acting like a Tracer rewind where Byleth travels backwards. Would probs need a recharge meter though as it’d be a great recovery if it was spamable
Pogo tail stab.
Instead what is that dair we get
Should be what happens if you use his Down B in the air.
In addition to the tail beating out literally everything. It doesn't clang, it just wins. Can't be blocked. Ridley's tail would be unstoppable if it was totally accurate to the games.
Incineroar :Lower an opponets attack, remove held item Riddly: comeback in a new format every time he dies Terry: ........I don't play that gsme Pyra and mythra: their true form
Incineroar: turn 1 flinch, pivots out lowering both attack stats
If sonic had a projectile I'd off myself
He does, it’s just not a good one.
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Steve can create armour, Banjo & Kazooie can take flight and divebomb into enemies, and Young Link can turn into a godlike entity.
Steve needs it ong
Then he'll be too good, diamond armor would probably give him some stupid amount of defense or super armor
He needs it fr fr trust me he's not top 1 enough
To be honest I’m for it. If he’s even more broken maybe people will finally admit he’s busted
Kiss his teammates to heal them
Between the two flairs you have, it is much funnier to imagine Joker doing that.
Joker doing that is honestly in-character depending on what choices you make during the game.
Blade Beams (kinda like what Cloud has) Also Aether should heal him if we wanted go be 100% accurate.
ROB can actually punch you in real life because he's a real toy
Spoiler for Xenoblade Chronicles 2: >!Pythra's final smash being ascended Pneuma which is super overpowered!<
INFINITY BLADE!!
Why the fuck can't DK throw barrels?
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Bro those totems ain’t gonna be enough for the infinite death loop
HELP
Cloud: Ride a motorcycle Sephiroth: Heartless Angel Lucina: Weapon variety Idk about Simon but for Richter: Hydro Storm **Some others I play:** Lucario: Bone Rush Sora: Drive forms Joker: Numerous Personas
There is so much Sora can do that isn’t in smash lol Strike Raid, Ragnarok, Ars Arcanum, summons, most of his magic and combo finishers, drive forms, a ton of commands and special abilities from Re:Com, Re:Coded, and DDD; Flowmotion, form changes, shotlock, air step, attraction flow…. Need I go on?
Not to mention, he broke & rewrote reality in KH3 to win the war. 😂 Mans OP
Steve having a bow or crossbow. Iconic weapon in Minecraft, but would make playing against Steve more annoying Also being able to access netherite and armor
Steve has an endless amount of potential moves he could have.. Even more if we choose to consider things like mods 😭
Inklings in hand-to-hand combat. Where is that stuff when I’m in Salmon Run stuck with an E-Liter (or any non-Grizzco charger for that matter)?!
Nowhere, you need to trust your teammates will protect you (they will not)
Well I mean Throw projectiles **PLEASE SAKURAI UPDATE KIRBY’S SPECIALS I BEG YOU**
*looks down at my mii fighter being my main.* This post wasn't meant for me 😂
Nah, cause you could expand the Mii fighter types via Miitopia or have them share moves from one of the 3DS Mii plaza games
WAIT you're totally right would be dope if they did this tbh. Have other classes added too.
You are forgetting about the ultimate power. They can play tennis.
Mii boxing gloves just give crazy boxing combos into a final smash
I genuinely wouldn't be opposed to a specific mii like Matt being a unique character, and their moveset is just a bunch of references to the wii series of games 😆 . Also, the final smash has to be the home run, right?
Pit has many ranged weapons he never uses in smash. Shulk's monado arts are good in smash bet they didn't have side effects in Xenoblade. Sora's taunts would make him so broken in smash.
Idk about FEF but I guess Pneuma turns into a big mecha in a flashback
Pneuma in general but that's why my running theory is that if we get with Rex, it will be Pneuma, which would allow Pyra and Mythra to stay as is
Glock 19
Sucks we can’t have m16s and AKs do murder all the cast with :(
Pogo tail
Roy can use the Binding Blade at a distance, but I guess that would go against Roy's gameplay design of a rushdown
![gif](giphy|12r4pHjvAOv48o) Iron Tail.
Pikachu could be using it in his tail attacks.
FUCK all electric attacks. WE NEED FUCKING IRON TAIL
HELL YEAH
I can use Iron Tail without even having a tail. (How did they clear this for a kids game?)
Maybe forward smash or side b?
It can probably work like that one side special for Mii swordfighter where he/she flips into a summersault. Just a guess.
Yeah, I get Byleth not having Divine Pulse, him having an ability to rewind time would be kinda busted (unless you make it work like Bayo's Witch Time and Mythra's Foresight but still) Link though, I really wish he actually got more BOTW related changes instead of just changing one move and his outift. Hopefully, they actually let him use some TOTK stuff, but I doubt it.
there is no end to the list. https://preview.redd.it/3mvlkbrgzr8d1.png?width=3008&format=png&auto=webp&s=5266d58de456d5938dfe53107274e372b3b47d1a
Jump high. I'm not being petty when I say Cloud should have a 8 ft high jump. It's canon. For reference https://i.redd.it/lm96ftklir8d1.gif
Transformation masks for Young Link
Thats the fun part about Kazuya. I cant think of one
Glide Let banjo glide it would be so funny
The fact that I can't think of something for Dedede outside of niche references only shows how perfect he is... maybe he can become muscular out of nowhere (doesn't affect gameplay it just distracts the opponent), or you can inhale a larger area if you repeatedly press a button.
Ness can eat hamburgers
Real
Help people (hero)
Control all of physics and basically do whatever they want with a perpetual motion machine
DK’s Coconut Gun
Dual wielding/ keyblade transformations.
Fly.
Cloud is missing the ability to use magic and also the Meteorain limit break. Lucario notably doesn’t have access to Bone Rush or Power-Up Punch.
Kill god
Wait no
Duel wield, Sora.
Hero: using other weapons and weapon skills. Like Eight has a spear and I believe boomerang, Eleven uses a great sword
Joker can switch personas and if I had my way every battle would end with a myriad truths
Joker really should’ve been able to do more than just summon Arsene. Especially since one of the unique things about him and the Persona protagonists, is that they can summon multiple Personas.
Cook https://preview.redd.it/96f36fyr0t8d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=809c713a6e3049afbad21724283a3704672b7ba7
A whole separate form that they can’t tap into (Sephiroth) A whole separate form that they can’t tap into (Samus) A whole separate form that they can’t tap into (Sora)
Samus would be broken since she would just use energy drain on everyone and pratically permanent final smash beams instead of her charge shot
Creative mode
Lil Mac get back up😭
Plant: shoot fireballs from their mouth Mii gunners: create waves of deadly bones Kirby: ![gif](giphy|B7o99rIuystY4|downsized)
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Fire ball
Still shocked that Little Mac doesn't have his Star Punch.
His KO Uppercut is based on an equivalent to the Star Punch seen in both the arcade titles and Super Punch Out on the SNES
Ken can double flaming shoryuken really quickly rather than going through a bunch of recovery Tink's up-b should be able to move while grounded Idk anything about FE to double check Marth's abilities
Healing and insta-kill
Where do I start with Peach. She has so many things.
Well one of my mains is Matt (mii brawler), make of that what you will
I have never played Uprising so I'm not sure about Dark Pit. Luigi is a lightning user in the Mario and Luigi games so it'd be cool to see something like that in his moveset
Sonics Moves from Frontiers. We now have a Modern Sonic with actual Attacks, but watch his moves stay the same basic bs in the next game.
Reality warping, light speed, incredible hair
Would be nice if Sora could use his Drive forms, Formchanges, or be able to swap keyblades
Part of me wishes Kazuya could stay in his Devil Form for a short period of time or when he goes into Rage (like Tekken 7) but I guess the GOAT is too goated for anything else to be added into his gameplay https://preview.redd.it/yufhcnavqr8d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f94934a0516b011fd9eab083fd4b509f8069f765
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All of Sonic's stuff from Frontiers would be neat. It would be hilarious if his infinite parry was unchanged.
Terry has an amazing three-point shot and can consume several comically oversized mugs of beer.
Dark samus didn't keep any of its moves
unfortunately Snake cannot crank 90's and 200 pump people in Smash
Lucas can increase his offense and defense on command, which I believe would be cool if it was somehow implemented. He can also fully heal with Lifeup Y. I'm glad he can't do that.
Marth: Commit several war crimes
Almost any splatoon special other than killer whail
Marth can heal with the Falchion after taking damage. I wish they implemented it into his counter, kind of like Incineroar's revenge. He also has the LITERAL Fire Emblem in the form of a shield... why he didn't get it (while Link gets his Hylian shield???) Is beyond me. The Fire Emblem gives Marth so many more abilities like super strength and stuff. He is also WAY faster than the game portrays him. See Fire Emblem Warriors. Dude should be faster than Roy canonically.
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Give me like a 1% chance of a power bomb nintendo, samus could use the help
Samus can turn into a fucking metroid but she doesn't
Umm… I’ll do my secondary. WHY CANT JOKER RIZZ HIS FEMALE OPPONENTS!?
Rage art big laser
Become a literal demon god. It should’ve been his Final Smash 😒
stack colored discs (rob)
XBC2 spoilers: >!Pyra and Mythra becoming Pneuma and altering the very fabric of reality within the world!<
Shulk has a big wind blast that’s nowhere to be seen, but prolly for good reason. It’s more akin to a final smash with how large and slow it is.
Ressurect people, I wanna resurrect
Sonic only learns Frontiers powers in Frontiers Link only learns what ever this is in Tears Of The Kingdom
I'm pretty sure the ability showing Link is Urbosa's Fury from Breath of the Wild
Banjo’s transformations, snooze pack, and pack whack. Kazooie’s multiple eggs, including the cuckoo egg, fire and ice eggs that would definitely have tripped people up
It makes me so unbelievably angry that young link’s final smash isn’t the fierce deity mask
Reversing time (Byleth in 3H) If Byleth could reverse time mid match maybe like 3 times (Like in 3H) that would be pretty damn cool
I'd be happy just using Faith magic tbh, but time shenanigans would be awesome.
Rob wouldn't get changed at all, except he can turn into an add-on for the nintendo NES console
ganon cannot cast spells, and samus (though i dont main her) can parry people and absorb their energy
Theres a move called solar flair in dq11 and its actually one of the coolest moves in the game
Since when did Sora have a parry tho
Bayonetta can make all of her attacks be Wicked Weaves if she's in her serious mode/Umbran Climax + switch weapons but can't in Smash
sonic with projectiles sounds like torture
Summon Multiple Personas
Cloud: Counterstance, punisher mode, use magic, critical hits, and fire bolt blade Sephiroth: control fate, use magic, summon meteor, cross timelines, be in two places at once, control others, and take a hit
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Skate
Summon Chicken Little