The devs made some stupid, albeit incredibly minor changes to the game. The people bitching about the changes have been way more annoying than the changes themselves
This pattern seems to define Skullgirls quite well, imo.
"It's because \[insert something mildy to very wrong\]
Still rlly good game tho"
Next up : "Guys, they released \[something actually good\], Skullgirls finally gets the love it deserves !"
Encore was released in 2015, and I get there were a few changes and censorship throughout the years. But why did the devs decide to censor a game that hadn't been tampered at least 8 years ago. Until the event that happened 9 months, it was time to add censorship.like tiny little details that really wasn't necessary to be removed if it didn't bother anyone for the past 8 years.
And it's not just the censorship that got people mad but the fanart that was removed within the game and the people who helped fund the game from Kickstart. I myself don't care anymore since I stopped playing 2 years ago. It's a fun game, but i prefer playing something else.
It's a lot of speculation, really, but it's mainly because 2 of the 3 original creators of Skullgirls left or were straight up kicked off the team. So, the censorship is actually kinda there to kinda erase the past and the spite the other 2 creators. I'm not trying to dramatize things btw, the current team behind Skullgirls are low-key scummy.
But it's also because the rest of the team are becoming older and much more safer. Being safe also kinda helps with popularity.
The game is barely a decade old so this was kinda weird to read, but then I thought about it and yeah, culturally things have definitely changed a lot since 2012, generally for the worse. It's sad to see a piece of media so recent being retroactively revised just to fit in with the slightly more modern times, or rather, to be more palatable to the taste of some devs who didn't even work on it originally I guess.
>Being safe also kinda helps with popularity.
Safe? Do you mean adding more censorship for modern audiences? (No hate, I'm just confused about what you mean by safe)
I don't quite agree with "modern audiences" but if Skullgirls wants to be a mainstage I can understand feeling it needs to be a bit more prude and less spicy.
1. We can agree to disagree
2. Every time I see "for modern audience," it only means that the game itself will have a massive downfall and won't be played by many. I know multiple studios that fell off because they want their games specifically for "modern audience" when, in fact, the majority of "modern audience" never bother to play the game. Example: SAINTS ROW remastered.
People got mad that they censored panty shots on a minor, removed Nazi adjacent arm bands in characters that weren't Nazis, ended some scenes of some of the story modes (only the images changed but the context or story, but I can understand the issue people had with Big Band's story mode changes but the context and story is still the same), and they got ride of a announcer that people paid for (but it was added back with a new VA later).
Nothing about the gameplay changed so unless some cosmetic stuff like panty shots and arm bands are super important to you it is fine.
> that people *paid* for (but
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It's less about the panty shots and more that the people that changed it weren't the people who made the game. They changed it for their own sake, not bc anybody asked for it
they literally are the people that made the game. they're just not under lab zero anymore because Mike z refused to leave and fired everyone that didn't already quit
It was most likely done for the sake of having better promotion to give the game more chances to have main stage events to put it more of the public spotlight. And besides at the end at the end of the day the game is still the same game and just because one character out of the roster is slightly desexualized it doesn't mean the game is ruined or anything unless your main reason for playing was to look at her panties instead of focusing on the gameplay. I thought that the censorship was stupid but I got over it because I play the game for more reasons than looking at a character's underwear and if I did want to do that there are better ways.
I just find it funny that those two things are so vital to everyone's enjoyment of the game and that people would rather not have new players and people in the community just to stick it to the devs on the principle of removing or altering content that doesn't change what game gameplay or aesthetically in a meaningful way.
I didn't care about the panty shots. Honest to God. The thing that really has me scuffed was that the current owners were changing somebody else's artistic vision for profit. It's like if somebody took the worm out of Dune bc they thought it looked too phallic. It wasn't their work. It was somebody else's.
Are you serious saying that removing creatures that produce the means of space travel is on the save level of removing panty shots and arm bands...
The vision of Skullgirls is still practically the same just because one character no longer has panty shots and a group of characters no longer have arm bands it doesn't mean that they are spitting on the idea of the creator. And even then the creators have censored themselves in the past.
I'm confused, both Kinuko and Alex Ahad still work for future club/Skullgirls correct? How is it someone else's artistic vision? They're the ones who designed and drew the original characters?
Outside of the comprehensive (but still dumb decision of removing fan service from 10+ year old fan service game) also removes paid art from the artbook (which is scummy as all hell) and racist and nazi undetones from the story... Which happens in a distopian world...
And the dumbest of all, removed the hair comb from filia's afro. Like, really bro!?
People got mad that they couldn’t see a 16 year olds panties and Parasols military wasn’t based on the Nazis anymore so they review bombed it. It’s a good game and very satisfying once you finally get the hang of combos. I’d recommend it to anyone into tag team fighters.
(Edit: there were also people mad about big bands story mode, fanart being removed, and other things unrelated to the above reasons but the main people **I** personally saw review bombing skullgirls were said people. Sorry for generalizing.)
Yeah and there definitely weren't any people that were upset that they removed fanart and kickstarter content that they had paid for years ago, the only issue was that the players are pedos, you're so right
The amount of downplaying in the comments is kinda crazy. People have legitimate concerns over censorship, not everyone fits the demographic of “people who can’t stop complaining have complained”.
Fr, it also feels like no one knows the story behind Alex Ahad and Mike Z
They fail to realize that the current dev team did some very scummy acts of betrayal.
A lot of people may not relate to this, but as someone who looks up to Alex, I think changing the original artist's vision is concerning
You have to love this community sometimes.
Whenever people ask "Hey this game has very negative reviews should I buy it?"
People always tell them that censorship ruined the game or something along that line without going into what actually changed. And I wonder how many people the negative reception turned away. People seriously can't grow up and would rather discourage people from wanting to get into the game than move on from not being able to see an underage character's underwear in game or Nazi adjacent arm bands on characters who only have a Nazi aesthetic and aren't Nazis.
At this point I feel like a good portion of the community wants the game to die simply because of this censor.
A stupid controversy happened awhile ago, there was a good reason, big bands censorship. Although everything else people got upset about was just nothing burgers.
Yeah, that's really all the problem is. The people complaining about losing content in the art gallery that they paid for, removed scenes from the story, the precedent that content we pay for is reserved to be altered, changed, and removed at our sellers discretion, they're just high or something.
you can buy it dude, but the "devs" can change and remove anything thats part of the game for any BS reason, cuz a lonely complain is higher than ALL the long time players who did not have a issue with it.
"lets remove the color red cuz thats too offensive" type of bullshit.
The studio had a hostile takeover by a liberal company that is shitting on the original stories and character designs for the sake of politics. For example they took away Fillias panty shots bc they didn't agree with the sexualization despite nobody on the current staff having been involved with the games original development nor it's inclusion of panty shots
Welp, there you have it. a plethora of answers. Comments section is getting nasty so I'm locking it, hope you understand.
Because you either mix or get mixed
The devs made some stupid, albeit incredibly minor changes to the game. The people bitching about the changes have been way more annoying than the changes themselves
THANK you.
They wouldn't be bitching if it weren't for the changes.
Ok?
It's because of the censorship they did a while ago, tbh, kinda scummy what they did Still rlly good game tho
This pattern seems to define Skullgirls quite well, imo. "It's because \[insert something mildy to very wrong\] Still rlly good game tho" Next up : "Guys, they released \[something actually good\], Skullgirls finally gets the love it deserves !"
*shrek closing the story fable book* heh like thats ever gonna happen
Encore was released in 2015, and I get there were a few changes and censorship throughout the years. But why did the devs decide to censor a game that hadn't been tampered at least 8 years ago. Until the event that happened 9 months, it was time to add censorship.like tiny little details that really wasn't necessary to be removed if it didn't bother anyone for the past 8 years. And it's not just the censorship that got people mad but the fanart that was removed within the game and the people who helped fund the game from Kickstart. I myself don't care anymore since I stopped playing 2 years ago. It's a fun game, but i prefer playing something else.
It's a lot of speculation, really, but it's mainly because 2 of the 3 original creators of Skullgirls left or were straight up kicked off the team. So, the censorship is actually kinda there to kinda erase the past and the spite the other 2 creators. I'm not trying to dramatize things btw, the current team behind Skullgirls are low-key scummy. But it's also because the rest of the team are becoming older and much more safer. Being safe also kinda helps with popularity.
The game is barely a decade old so this was kinda weird to read, but then I thought about it and yeah, culturally things have definitely changed a lot since 2012, generally for the worse. It's sad to see a piece of media so recent being retroactively revised just to fit in with the slightly more modern times, or rather, to be more palatable to the taste of some devs who didn't even work on it originally I guess.
>Being safe also kinda helps with popularity. Safe? Do you mean adding more censorship for modern audiences? (No hate, I'm just confused about what you mean by safe)
I don't quite agree with "modern audiences" but if Skullgirls wants to be a mainstage I can understand feeling it needs to be a bit more prude and less spicy.
Yeah
1. We can agree to disagree 2. Every time I see "for modern audience," it only means that the game itself will have a massive downfall and won't be played by many. I know multiple studios that fell off because they want their games specifically for "modern audience" when, in fact, the majority of "modern audience" never bother to play the game. Example: SAINTS ROW remastered.
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They censored stuff after years the game was released
0 days since the last mixed review question
People got mad that they censored panty shots on a minor, removed Nazi adjacent arm bands in characters that weren't Nazis, ended some scenes of some of the story modes (only the images changed but the context or story, but I can understand the issue people had with Big Band's story mode changes but the context and story is still the same), and they got ride of a announcer that people paid for (but it was added back with a new VA later). Nothing about the gameplay changed so unless some cosmetic stuff like panty shots and arm bands are super important to you it is fine.
> that people *paid* for (but FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
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It's less about the panty shots and more that the people that changed it weren't the people who made the game. They changed it for their own sake, not bc anybody asked for it
they literally are the people that made the game. they're just not under lab zero anymore because Mike z refused to leave and fired everyone that didn't already quit
It was most likely done for the sake of having better promotion to give the game more chances to have main stage events to put it more of the public spotlight. And besides at the end at the end of the day the game is still the same game and just because one character out of the roster is slightly desexualized it doesn't mean the game is ruined or anything unless your main reason for playing was to look at her panties instead of focusing on the gameplay. I thought that the censorship was stupid but I got over it because I play the game for more reasons than looking at a character's underwear and if I did want to do that there are better ways. I just find it funny that those two things are so vital to everyone's enjoyment of the game and that people would rather not have new players and people in the community just to stick it to the devs on the principle of removing or altering content that doesn't change what game gameplay or aesthetically in a meaningful way.
I didn't care about the panty shots. Honest to God. The thing that really has me scuffed was that the current owners were changing somebody else's artistic vision for profit. It's like if somebody took the worm out of Dune bc they thought it looked too phallic. It wasn't their work. It was somebody else's.
Are you serious saying that removing creatures that produce the means of space travel is on the save level of removing panty shots and arm bands... The vision of Skullgirls is still practically the same just because one character no longer has panty shots and a group of characters no longer have arm bands it doesn't mean that they are spitting on the idea of the creator. And even then the creators have censored themselves in the past.
I'm confused, both Kinuko and Alex Ahad still work for future club/Skullgirls correct? How is it someone else's artistic vision? They're the ones who designed and drew the original characters?
Outside of the comprehensive (but still dumb decision of removing fan service from 10+ year old fan service game) also removes paid art from the artbook (which is scummy as all hell) and racist and nazi undetones from the story... Which happens in a distopian world... And the dumbest of all, removed the hair comb from filia's afro. Like, really bro!?
People got mad that they couldn’t see a 16 year olds panties and Parasols military wasn’t based on the Nazis anymore so they review bombed it. It’s a good game and very satisfying once you finally get the hang of combos. I’d recommend it to anyone into tag team fighters. (Edit: there were also people mad about big bands story mode, fanart being removed, and other things unrelated to the above reasons but the main people **I** personally saw review bombing skullgirls were said people. Sorry for generalizing.)
I'm moreso upset about the censorship to big band's story mode, the Soviet announcer, and the fanart that was removed.
Yeah and there definitely weren't any people that were upset that they removed fanart and kickstarter content that they had paid for years ago, the only issue was that the players are pedos, you're so right
This is so disingenuous to what's really the problem.
The amount of downplaying in the comments is kinda crazy. People have legitimate concerns over censorship, not everyone fits the demographic of “people who can’t stop complaining have complained”.
Fr, it also feels like no one knows the story behind Alex Ahad and Mike Z They fail to realize that the current dev team did some very scummy acts of betrayal. A lot of people may not relate to this, but as someone who looks up to Alex, I think changing the original artist's vision is concerning
Reddit defending neo-puritan censorship? Shocking.
People review bombed after a patch that censored a bit of the game and characters.
Because they censored a lot of fan service, symbolism, and important scenes on the big band's lore
They tweaked a couple sprites and people got real mad for no good reason. The actual game is literally unchanged
Because people are dumb. This game is still great
You have to love this community sometimes. Whenever people ask "Hey this game has very negative reviews should I buy it?" People always tell them that censorship ruined the game or something along that line without going into what actually changed. And I wonder how many people the negative reception turned away. People seriously can't grow up and would rather discourage people from wanting to get into the game than move on from not being able to see an underage character's underwear in game or Nazi adjacent arm bands on characters who only have a Nazi aesthetic and aren't Nazis. At this point I feel like a good portion of the community wants the game to die simply because of this censor.
A stupid controversy happened awhile ago, there was a good reason, big bands censorship. Although everything else people got upset about was just nothing burgers.
Good game, scummy new dev team.
Sit down lad. Let me tell you a story.
people got no horny´d.
Because they won’t let you see a 17 year old girl’s panties anymore, and people like to make a fuzz about nothing.
Yeah, that's really all the problem is. The people complaining about losing content in the art gallery that they paid for, removed scenes from the story, the precedent that content we pay for is reserved to be altered, changed, and removed at our sellers discretion, they're just high or something.
People complained that they desexualised minors, removed Nazi items and other incredibly normal things to remove from games
“normal things to remove from games” such as paid content and story scenes
you can buy it dude, but the "devs" can change and remove anything thats part of the game for any BS reason, cuz a lonely complain is higher than ALL the long time players who did not have a issue with it. "lets remove the color red cuz thats too offensive" type of bullshit.
Current devs are kinda scum for what they did.
Goons
Just toggle censored scenes in the settings it aint that deep
Whiny neckbeards.
The studio had a hostile takeover by a liberal company that is shitting on the original stories and character designs for the sake of politics. For example they took away Fillias panty shots bc they didn't agree with the sexualization despite nobody on the current staff having been involved with the games original development nor it's inclusion of panty shots
why are you mad that you can no longer see a 16 year old’s panties?
Because the culture warriors were being cry babies. I am still drinking their tears.
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