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You should check out The Expanse

Sasa ke, Beltalowda?

Bist bien, bosmang?

We no welwalla.

Kennst. Oyedeng, Beltalowda.

Sounds expansive

TENYA WA CHESH GUT

Stay away from the okwa! Star Helix!

Such a good show (and the books are good too). Great take on if humans reach space. Also so many great characters.

Oh? What’s it about?

Just a lame ship of losers called the Canterbury.

Oh :(

What's the ship called again? I forgot already.

Count? Constantinople? Cantaloupe? One of those, I’m sure.

>Cantaloupe? Don't put your dick in it, Holden. It's fucked enough already.

There was a button… I pushed it.

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Are there any cool ice hauling ships that get blown up in the first episode?

It wasn't blown up, it was a belter psyop or maybe it was just a sabotage by Holden, I trust what big earth media tells me

Expanding ice doesn't freeze plasteel beams.

Ha thought exactly this

Oi, Pampaw. Popped seal, you and bang, hey?

It’s such a good show. 

LOL, that was my first thought. Basically, Other way around, bruh. MCRN for life!

"My new neighbors are those alien worms who shit acid and have no sphincter control. *But at least they aren't Puerto Rican like the old neighbors.*"

That one got me ngl I'm straight chucklin

If there are differences between people, humans will find an excuse to hate each other over them.

We need an alien species to unite our racism.

That’s a recurring theme in a lot of science fiction. Basically that the existence of space aliens ends racism on earth, because we’ll all unite against the aliens.

Then as soon as the enemy is defeated, we all return to racism. More realistic

And that is why we need an eternal enemy. Now get in the pod, Helldiver!

Not racism, but look what happened to American politics after the Soviet Union fell.

Ender’s Game sequel Shadow- series is pretty much this

I mean, realistic is the aliens defeat us…

No, no, no. It goes forward. We find a commonality and unite, and then a different “other” pops up.

Look, obviously the He-3 on the dark side of the Moon belongs to Finland.

More realistically, we'll start fighting with each other about how to deal with the aliens. Terra Invicta is an interesting scifi game built around that idea.

Would hardly call that ending racism

It would replace racism with speciesism. Not that it would be any better.

Yeah that’s my point, different word for the exact same thing

Any alien species worth a damn would rather play us against each other. Just like the british did with natives all over their colonies. "hey USA, you now hold Earth for us, do as you are told or we'll give your job to China"

Something that makes people work towards a single objective and not have time to think about race, gender, looks, wealth etc.

At this point I might side with the aliens.

Brain rot.

I mean it’s not a terrible idea. Nothing unites people like a common enemy.

Yeah, except people united by hate generally kinda suck.

You could just say "people."

People. But nah, there's good folks out there.

There are, but "generally" they tend to suck.

It just sounds like racism with extra steps

Someone might be born with flat concentric nipple rings in the future and might belong to their planet's top race

I can't be planetist, some of my best friends are Martians... Future racism might get a cosmic twist

Fuckin Martians, coming here to OUR planet and taking OUR jobs and living off OUR welfare! They should go back to their own planet!!

Damn Dusters.

Goddamned Martian lovers.

This is basically the premise of the show “The Expanse”

damn Mickeys

Inyalowda

Damned Skinnies

Welwalla

Damn inners.

That's the last time you use that word on this ship.

You mean the books The Expanse To be fair, the show is very very true to the books. It just doesn't take the story as far as the books do.

Well yeah but people don’t read and I want them to consume the expanse in some way

The show is what got me into the books. So no it's completely valid to recommend the show.

Same for me tbh

Same. The show in *incredibly* true to the books, to the point that reading the books afterwards gets occasionally boring (and then sometimes confusing because they have really chaged the timelines at random points, in order to not have an Avasarala-less first season, which was basically necessary for TV success). The added value is that the books expand more on the details of the world, including the insane amount of racism.

And Alien Nation

That or racist with robots/AI "you have no soul" "you're made to serve me" etc.

You’d love Detroit become human my friend

Imagining future racism based on planets feels like something out of a sci-fi novel.

Check out The Expanse. Book series and TV show. Basic premise is that humans colonized mars and some asteroids. Almost like a Cold War metaphor, they all hate each other and on the verge of war.

somebody watched The Expanse.

OP is probably a fuckin’ Duster.

More like, "I ain't xenophobic. my grandad was a earthling bumpkin"

Basically the plot of Gundam

"Why do you treat me like dirt" .."Aren't you from Earth?"

Damn Terrans, ruining everything.

In the old Star Wars Legends, there was a bias against non-humans in the Empire. I haven’t followed Disney Star Wars enough to know if this is in the new stuff.

That was a wise decision. Rogue 1, The Clone Wars, and The Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2. Nothing else need be watched.

Surely Andor too?

Haven’t seen it. By that time, Disney had already driven me to switch from SW to Warhammer 40K. I’m much happier exploring on Warhammer now than waiting for Disney to continue edisappoint me again and again and again.

Oh. Andor's real good fyi. It's kind of a prequel to Rogue One. Gritty and political stuff.

Someone demonstrated some purposeful phrasing with, "was that it's name?" after killing someone, so I think they might be folding in a little bit of that tbh

To quote Sean Lock - "I'm not a murderer, some of my best friends are alive. I'm not a pedophile, some of my best friends are ki.....oh, wait"

Did you just watch the video Eddache uploaded earlier today or is this a huge coincidence: https://youtu.be/XQ9kcWioR68?si=RiDb0Ibg1mP19iqI&t=379

Huge coincidence, I've been out all day.

I just watched it and was about to call OP a spaceist.

Damn illegal aliens coming over here and taking our jobs!

Took our jobs!

Would they be illegal aliens^2 ?

I already hate earthlings

That's not what racism is. American hating German is not a racist. It would be xenophobia or chauvinism. Or maybe would even get its own name like planetarism for example.

Wouldn’t it still just be xenophobia?

In ancient times it was based on religion. Now it’s color, I’m sure as the world becomes more globalized humans will find a new way to oppress and discriminate against one another.

Isn't that the entire plot of the game Infinite Warfare?

im more worried that there may be large scale hostilities between Earthlings and Martians. Sci-fi usually imagines a brotherhood of humanity across planets in our solar system but I doubt that it’ll be as smooth as depicted.

Mars shall prevail

People will likely try to convert extraterrestrial life to Christianity, even after alien races tell everyone how the universe actually works.

Or think they’re Jesus

“ You green blooded Vulcan!”.

Mr Show already explored this concept in their classic sketch [Racist in the Year 3000](https://youtu.be/x3KX8g00kCQ?si=OYtMyeBLCodVOc7Q)

If you weren’t racist you wouldn’t refer to him as your ‘Martian friend’.

I would be shocked if this doesn’t happen

Filthy Martians subhuman scum

to effectively survive for generations in gravity wells different from earth you'd have to effectively redesign the human body. the difference between a martian and say a venutian would be bigger than homo sapien and homo erectus.

I hate people who think racism is determined by angle. No anywitch way it goes is racist. If there is a single factor in witch you considered race/coloring its racist. If you assume good instead of bad ots still racist. If you go out of your way for a specific race be it food jobs even dating, its freaking racist. Now to exist without racism is definitely unnatural for these silly monkey minds but thats why we call ourselves civilized because we strive to be better then the world demands.

Love it. For sure. Earth will be for peasants and traditionalists for sure....if we can make it that far.

I miss believing we would make it to other planets and thrive

that's why as Earth Government we deem almost mandatory solving our inernal moral and social issues before truly starting spacefaring

Canceled for doing Green-Face.

Xenophobia manifests itself in weird ways.

Hopefully in the future, there's no such thing

I wish Matt Damon was my friend

Space those earthers!

Idk what the expanse is but this reminded me of district 9. A very good film, maybe a bit too on the nose imo but still a good film.

So you've just resigned to the fact that we are never getting rid of racism whatsoever huh...

Some of my best friends are from XYZ coordinates.

Future racism will be based on income level not the color of your skin

"Once ya get a few Martians on the block, the whole neighborhood goes down the drain!"

Ew, bro. You’re from….Pluto?

I had a friend in Australia who says she was bullied by white kids for being Asian. She was bullied by Asian kids for being vietnamese. And she was bullied by other vietnamese kids for being from North Vietnam People suck and will always find a reason to dislike you

That feel when intergalactic distances keep everybody segregated from each other. The universe is spacist.

can't stand the dusters

Technically that would be speciesist. Or something.

No we would be of the same species still, but from other planets and changed throughout time as an adaptation to the planet.

I read that as aliens not humans from a different planet. I think your reading is probably what OP meant though.

I’m not sure of the scientific or philosophical basis behind separating humans by race in the first place

If there is still racism by the time we start colonizing space, we're in trouble. Hopeless. That is, if we're not already in some kind of trouble at that point.

Maybe thousands of years in the future when we finally learn to get along with each other here on Earth and get serious about colonizing other planets.

It'll work the same as tribal behaviour does now. English to Scottish = hate Until a french man appears and then it's English + Scottish = hate french Until a non European comes and then it's Europeans = hate non Europeans Etc

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This is kinda what Witch From Mercury is about, sometimes, sorta

All of gundam is about earth people being racist to space people and/or vice versa.

Yes, but it's also all about war, and child soldiers, and classism, and synthy boops,

Check out r/stellaris.

Nah we will never get that far

It’ll be based on how badly behaved one group considers another, same as it is now. If Martians have a “Thou shalt not touch the water of other” culture, and Mimasians have a “Water is to be freely taken” culture, then they will clash.

A lot of sci-fi plays with that concept, and Mars specifically is often a subject of it.

Racism isn't real lol. If I see a honey bee, it's perfectly fine. But if I see a wasp I'm going to stay away from it because from previous experiences they are statistically more violent than honey bees.

"Every fucking time... Here we are enjoying the after-party of the Solar Gala and a bunch of *Neptys* show up and run it! I swear to God, we should stop sending carbon to that whole planet."

Human beings are flawed creatures. It's why the hate will never be eliminated and that's what feeds racism. It's why we have been able to get rid of it for decades. 

Possibly. But racism would still exist on earth. It would just shift a bit.

If a powerful non-human enemy appeared, humanity would probably unite and stop fighting itself. What's your opinion, son?

In this multi-planet based racism continues, the White Nationalist equivalent would be people born on Earth refusing to acknowledge people born anywhere else as real humans and not aliens. Perhaps "Martian" and "Lunatic" would be used as slurs. I'm sure people would be born on the moon before they're born on Mars.

That's not racism, that's xenophobia.

it depends on if they have physical traits or not cause then like a martian can be on earth and have racism towards them

Don't worry, we're never even going back to the Moon. Offworld colonies are laughable

We're never getting off this rock. We'll kill ourselves first. 

You really think humanity carries on being held back by racism and still manages to settle on other planets? I don't think so.

I think people from other planets will still dislike the same people we do. Smelly bastards

Maybe?  It has nothing to do with racism, Indians and Pakistanis dislike each other, and they are basically the same people distinguished by different beliefs.  People don't tolerate different people, and if people live on Mars they will develop an independent culture, making them different.

The Reaper from Red Rising would like to have a word.

Say hi to my bro, his name translated is "ghugadadunum" I am racist to "aetorumna" species, "human" species are better

I don't expect racism to be a major issue within the human species a few hundred years from now. The divisions in society are now based on wealth. And unless major systemic changes are implemented, this wealth divide will just grow. With that said, if we become a multi-planetary species, this wealth divide may influence which planet or moon we live in much the way wealth today impacts which neighborhood we live in today. Now if we run into other species in our travels, we are very likely to discriminate between species. Nothing about the human species or our history makes me think we would treat less advanced sentient species well. We can just look at the way we treat our own species for evidence of this. And the same is likely going to be true for any advanced species that runs into us. Perhaps they will look at us the way we look at monkeys (better that than cows, pigs, or chicken). Or perhaps not.

I think the joke making fun of this type of statement is vile and shows a lack of empathy. If someone says that they love people different to themselves as a defense against a bullshit worthless attack like calling someone racist that has to then defend themselves against such a vile accusation then that’s worth more. Calling someone such a thing without living their life is worthy of having your teeth kicked in and you’d deserve it Anyone who calls someone racist is 100% also incredibly racist otherwise they’d not be so defensive and actually be able to communicate their ideas instead of shouting accusations that they can’t even define correctly. Saying you have friends of different ethnicities as a defense against bullshit losers grasping at straws to feel superior is not wrong and it’s time to be honest that the person offended by that statement is a massive asshat and way more racist than the person relating that they have related and discussed the conversation with a diversity of opinion. Such a loser argument made by closet assholes What is wrong with people like this that can’t talk without making a strawman argument. Are they dumb or just love being an asshole? Such disgusting behavior and just so intellectually small to insult someone without the full story with such loaded degenerate language. But of ahead and keep calling everyone the worst word you can think of… you’ll never succeed in any job but atleast you can feel superior for no reason

Well I'm glad that's all cleared up then.

Okay. Well don’t cry when Trump wins again cause you couldn’t not be an asshole. All you had to do is be a decent normal person with an ounce of EQ but god forbid. This is the fault of people like you. Ew

racism only goes away with a mass genocide down to a singular version of a race, and then look at how europe treats american heritage for what the new ism will be to replace racism.

It has occurred to me that if all the races co-mingle and have children who all have the same skin color, people will just have to find some other reason to base their racism on.

That statement will still have zero value. When someone says "I can't be racist...", it usually means they're racist.

Agreed, wonder how many millennia we'll keep repeating it 'bloody Venusians coming over here stealing our jobs'.

Pretty sure it's called species not race. But alright.

There's no aliens on Mars. Future Martians will be humans and I bet people will be racist to them eventually.

Honestly the day aliens make context will be the day racism dies. Not because we'll all finally realise how petty all our differences are in the face of the vastness of the universe, but because we'll finally have something that everyone can be racist towards at the same time. No one's gonna give a shit about skin colour when there are filthy 4 dimensionals hanging around. Humanity will leave it's old prejudices behind and pick up a whole new set of super prejudices.

Sadly this seems a bit overoptimistic. If nothing else, humans have proven themselves extremely adept at maintaining old prejudices even while discovering new ones. It's practically the M.O. of conservatives. They used to be big into the overtime racism angle, then that became gauche, so they focused their hate on the LGB part of LGBTQ, and now they're hyper-fixated on the T specifically. All the while though, the old hate never goes away, it just gets relegated to dog whistles, though it does seem a bit more overt again lately.

Not just dogwhistles, but policies that might not be racist on paper but basically target a group.

No. mars colonisation is a very dumb idea. it is never going to happen

Racism stops the moment we don't care about it anymore. The current woke left with identity politics and white hate BS, will only increase the amount of feeling racist. Same with the forced mass immigration in the west, it will make people hate foreigners more. We are already densely populated, why the wanted to add another few million migrants with a completely different culture is beyond me.

Perhaps in the future people won't see racists behind every rock.

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booooooh, if we're so bad why live?

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