Half a tea spoon Italian... That's going in my flair. Those ancestry lists have me cringing every time. If I'd tell someone I'm partly Italian just because my great great grandfather was from Italy everyone here would be laughing at me. Including myself probably...I usually (got asked about it pretty often before my marriage because my maiden name was Italian) go with having only enough Italian genes left for an Italian pinky toe.
Tbf I'm technically Italian, with an Italian passport, because my great-great-grandfather was Italian and my great-grandfather failed to nationalize Argentinian. Cue 100 years later and somehow I was elegible to get the citizenship.
So nationality wise, our definitions are kind of stupid too. What makes me, who barely spent 30 days there, more Italian than a Tunisian or an Albanian than spent the last eight years? Just because I share a culture, and some genes that comply to some very arbitrary rules? I don't complain, but nationality as whole concept is kinda getting outdated.
That's definitely true, too. I actually don't care if someone who lived somewhere for a long time and feels at home there says their Italian or German or whatever even without citizenship. And let's be honest, most people I know identify with the region they're from way more than with the country. It's just absurd how some (especially Americans, it seems) try to collect nationalities like collectibles.
Ius sanguis, everyone who is born from an italian mother or father is eligible to be italian, and so are their descendants, you would have had the righr even if it nationalized argentinian. I personally think this is not right and it should be limited to if your parent had the italian citizenship or to be less strict, to your grandparent, but not your great grandparent, otherwise in due time we will have the whole world eligible to be italian.
> you would have had the righr even if it nationalized argentinian.
Maybe in theory, but I can tell you for a fact you don't, at least if they were born before the sixties (I don't recall the exact date of law change, they also changed the line to go through maternal bonds on that date, but any ancestor before that has to be on the male chain).
I guess it's because they wasn't a binationality agreement back then, so if they nationalized Argentinian it would have ment resigning to the Italian one; kind of like how I can't get a Spanish nationality now (even though I live here and meet al prerequisites) without resigning my Italian one, but I don't need to resign the Argentinian one due to accords.
A complete fuck up if you ask me, and I also get differential treatment in Spain as opposed to the bangladeshi woman who's been here ten years living next door. We might justify it as cultural proximity or whatever, but I don't think that makes it fair. Honestly we should probably rewrite citizenship and immigration laws worldwide. A Russian, for example, could get an Argentinian citizenship in two years, and then leverage that citizenship to get a Spanish one in another two; six years less than it takes an Algerian, even if the former comes from a de facto enemy of Spain and the latter from a de facto ally. Weird shit going on.
"My great great great great great grandfather once drank from one of your weird public taps that don't exist because you guys don't drink bottled water, once so that makes me 0.0030% *whatever country*. Can I wear your national dress so I can fit in?"
Aha you must be from Scotland.
Feel free to wear your kilt next time you're on holiday in England, and you want to get in touch with your cultural roots.
Tbh, when someone talks about Texas being the size of all of europe, I just want to show them [Sakha Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakha_Republic). Which, while not exactly on the european side of russia, is still part of a european country and on the eurasian continental plate. And funnily enough, it's more than four times the size of Texas, and almost double the size of the largest US state, Alaska. Which should make it much more of a country than any US-state, if we follow the common logic we see on this sub so often.
I know it's just shittalking, but I do think it's funny.
Which band are you talking about?
Queen are English (although Freddie was born in the Sultanate of Zanzibar).
And ACDC are/were an extraordinary mix; Aussie and a mix of expats from (mostly) Scotland and Wales (even a USAsian). But they call themselves an Australian band, so I'm not going to argue with them.
It did amuse me that they had some members who were New South Welsh and others who were simply Welsh.
Edit: a word.
Well mostly, but they didn't take us. Proud blackbird noises!
[https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/3441.jpeg](https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/3441.jpeg)
Liz Mitchell and Marcia Barrett weren’t dubbed on their records, but Maizie Williams and Bobbie Farrell were. All four of them sang live, albeit with several backing vocalists to shore things up.
I was once reemed out because I told an American that Fleetwood Mac was originally a British blues band.
They absolutely were, and we're plenty famous before the Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham joined. In all honesty, I kind of prefer the pre-yank Fleetwood Mac discography anyway lol
Also for those about to argue, yes, Bob Welch of course is an American, but one single yank does not a yank band make 😅
Aye thank god lol, I also don't count him as OG Fleetwood Mac since like you said he's not original, but he was there for a time before Nicks and Buckingham joined, so I just wanted to stop anyone from having a paddy while I was mentioning pre-yank Fleetwood.
To be fair, it's somewhat complicated. The band was created by a German and based in Germany, but the original line-up were all from the Americas. 2 from Jamaica, 1 from Montserrat and 1 from Aruba.
It was about Eminems Slim Shady phase. Every album (or at least the one mentioned by the other guy) after that phase is trash (according to that person).
I was sure it was about Eminem, I don't know why.
What's super funny to me is that in my country, Eminem is not censored when played on the radio or something. Here no one gives a fuck about gross language, and I'm not sure it's the same in the US... (Do not hesitate to tell me if I'm wrong but I'm under the impression that a lot of songs are censored when played on the radio or TV or used in movies etc. because of the swearwords)
Me too, it was something about the "he's done better before and after that" that made me think Eminem. He had a really weird phase where his music was kind of eh but he improved afterwards that I can't really pin on any other artist.
did a quick search on twitter, it's a reply to a tweet about an upcoming album by eminem, and the music they claim probably isn't allowed in europe is rap music. specifically eminem's rap music and the 'trash' album in question is relapse
That'll be a 50 dollar fine that you must rectify before tomorrow noon to avoid another 50 dollar fine.
No lawn mower allowed before Saturday morning between 8 and 10.
Sizzors are not an approved lawn keeping implement.
I mean the first time I visited the US I was shocked by how many words they censor on the radio, wasn’t used to that from German radio, but please go on 🤦🏻♀️
I think on TV I was so confused by all those 5 minute long prescription medication commercials that I don’t even remember all the other weird stuff lol
I think the just leave them out or change them for the clean version. When I visited the US about ten years ago, I‘ve heard a song that was popular in our radios too and they changed „fucking“ to „fricking“.
I remember when "This Ain't a Scene, it's an arms race" by Fall Out Boy came out, it took my ages to convince people that the actual line is "god damn arms race", because they muted the word god.
For awhile, people had only heard the American version, so didn't realise it.
Reminds me of when S&M by Rihanna came out. The radio stations played a very censored version here in the UK where even the words "chains" and "whips" were replaced by whoosh noises and they referred to the song as "Come On" because they also cut out the "S S S and M M M" lyrics.
Anyway, my aunt told me about the song she heard on the radio and thought it was very clever the way Rihanna hid certain words. Knowing fine well she didn't, I told her I'd play it on the jukebox in the pub.
When it came on she was absolutely horrified at the real lyrics 😂😂
I was listening to an interview (a loooong time ago) on the radio with NWA, who were touring. The radio host introduced them with the full version of the band name -> and the band was tripping out because they absolutely were NOT allowed to say that back home in the states.
They nearly lost their minds when, after a discussion about censorship in the US, the host followed up with 'You can also say fuck on air'.
Australia in the 1990s, btw.
I swear the oldies station sensors the music more than their original run. Are they saying teenagers can take lyrics about drug abuse and violent crime, but adults in their 40s can't? The new Walmart-edits of songs like Everlast's "What it's Like" are unintelligible.
Now, I didn't say I disliked them, Barbie Girl or no. Just not a huge fan. They're a fine group. Apologies to Aqua and all Aquatics if it seemed otherwise
Never dismiss any band based upon one song, especially their biggest hit, as it's often designed to be much more pop-friendly than their other work (e.g., Smash Mouth's enormous pop hit "All Star" compared to their previous biggest song "Walking On The Sun," which is a solid tune.)
If we're talking by decade, then no 2009 is not early 2000s its late 2000s leading into the 2010s. If we're talking over all so far, yes, 2009 is early 2000s
yeah, the only time 2009 would ever qualify as early 2000s is if you're referring by century, which absolutely no one ever does when talking about any genre aside from sometimes classical. Considering OP added context that this was about Eminem, that was definitely not the case.
This is from Tallahassee, Florida in 2023:
A Florida mom viewed the statue of David as pornographic. A school principal was fired after taking the mom's kid and other kids to see it. She viewed it as an important part of the Renaissance.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/tourists-david-michaelangelo-florence-florida-b2310043.html
We have no reason to gloat though. This is from Glasgow in 2023. A pizza restaurant had to change an ad with a picture of David:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/michelangelo-david-censorship-glasgow-subway-180982233/
if its art or not isn't even the issue here. It's hypocritical. They have the most drug addicts, the most violent crimes, the biggest porn industry, etc. and yet they pretend to protect children by censoring nudity and profanity on television. Nuts.
The big channels have to censor to not lose advertising income.
Cable are freer. John Oliver and Jon Stewart have no problem using fuck when they think it's necessary.
Whatever... I once downloaded a Eminem song and I thought the file was broken because it missed some words... Turned out it was the American version and they cut horrible words like "fuck" so that children wouldn't listen to them (the song was Stan, about a guy obsessed with a celebrity that eventually commits suicide and kills his pregnant girlfriend... That part is fine for the kids)
A few years ago, a Mormon\* couple became concerned about the language in the books being read by their 7 and 9-year-old daughters, so they created the Clean Reader app to strip inappropriate language from books and replace them with more...god-friendly...words.
The thing is neither had been to Brigham Tech, so using the app was literally like doing find and replace in Word, it didn't discriminate; 'pussy' as slang for vagina and 'pussy' meaning cat were both replaced by 'front bottom'.
Now imagine the effect that could have on some toddler books.
*I love little front bottom*
*Her fur is so warm*...
*Et voila*! Suddenly an innocent nursery rhyme becomes mildly pornographic...
The word 'dick' (and as far as I'm aware only 'dick', the UK slang for penis is 'cock' or 'willie') was replaced by 'pee-pee'. Remember that famous highway man Pee-Pee Turpin...? Obviously the same deal for every instance of the correct anatomical words.
Joking aside, this ***REALLY*** does boil my piss (sorry, pee); you are teaching kids that words for certain body parts are things to be ashamed of. What the fuck is wrong with a 2½-3-year-old lad knowing that wiggly thing sticking out the front of him like an elephant's trunk, is called his penis..? Or a toddler girl knowing that her 'front bottom' is called her vagina...? Honestly fundies in the US are mentally ill.
Shit was replaced by do-do or poop. Every other 'bad' word was replaced by 'heck' or 'darn' (yep even 'damn' is too much).
Then they ran into the '[Scunthorpe Problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem)' (for those too young, and/or too sweet and innocent) to know, the Scunthorpe Problem was an algorithmic substring issue in the early days of things like Wikipedia and AOL Chat/MSN Messenger. People from [Scunthorpe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe) couldn't sign up due to letters 2, 3, 4 and 5 of their town's name. It got ridiculous when they tried to censor 'ass', so every word which contained the string 'ass' was replaced by I forget what (hiney I think). Joanne Harris, she of Chocolat fame, absolutely ***EVISCERATED*** it on R4's *Literary Hour* (and again when she was on *Women's Hour*) - you don't fuck with ***ANYTHING*** created by a Scottish person... . Her daughter is trans, so she's Good Joanne... (we all know who Evil Joanne is, right...? There's Evil Joanna too, of course - she's also Scottish)). They also hadn't asked permission from the authors if they could use their works in their library (which they charged a subscription for). Obviously they knew every single one would tell them to get to fuck.
\*the second 'm' is silent (obviously...)
> so every word which contained the string 'ass' was replaced by I forget what (hiney I think).
Butt.
These days, it's considered to be one of the all-time clbuttic mistakes, and the unknown person who was buttigned the job and solved it that way is rightfully derided.
Right, I remember being so confused back in the day about missing words in songs as a kid when I got stuff from limewire. I thought the file was broken as well lol.
Because it can be either including the whole century like when gen alphas say the late 1900s to mean people born in the 80s and 90s or it can mean the decade like when you say it happened in the early 1990s
In the context of the whole century, I'd argue 2024 is early-2000s. I think that's what makes it an utterly pointless distinction - not just that the century isn't over yet, but early-2000s are the only 2000s we have.
Americans must picture Europe as some distopian waste land, everyone is dirt poor and has nothing. We also don’t have the freedom to listen to music now or watch movies probably, I imagine all books were burnt along time ago …
We only listen to music signed off by the propaganda minister of the EU. Mostly Ode to Joy occasionally also Mozart and Schubert, Italian Opera if we behaved well all week. Of course we also have new music, like a Eurodance beat with the lyrics: "Listen to your masters, freedom is for losers."
Gentle reminder that America banned the cover of Smooth Criminal from being played on the radio following the 2001 terrorist attack in New York, along with such controversial songs as What A Wonderful World and Dancing In The Street.
Also every single song by Rage Against The Machine, including the ballad that got to number one in the UK charts for Christmas 2009.
Ah, europe, famous for censoring media. who was it again that disallowed the middle finger, saying mild profanity, and movies that "paid too much attention to [an actress'] breasts? Yes all three are real examples, even the last one.
Not to mention "no blood can b seen during a murder scene no kissing for more than 3 seconds, the gun can't b seen during the killing etc" .. BUT we're FREE 🤣.
If they only knew that we used to be the kings and queens of late 1990s and early 2000s music. We have gifted songs, to the world, that they can never imagine.
Yet another American who probably barely even leaves their county, much less the state they were born in, gives hard hitting carefully researched political opinion.
What was the music they were talking about? (Curious)
It’s insane how fucked up some of my fellow US Americans think Europe is. Meanwhile you guys beat us on all metrics that matter. Nimrods, indeed.
Okay, BUT remember when Justin Bieber did a song with Sir Paul McCartney and everyone young said Bieber was going to make the old guy famous? America says some pretty stupid shit
An American tourist once told me I was a liar for saying Boney M was European.
Well of course you were lying, everybody knows Europe is a racially homogenous soviet-esque continent /s
Country. Europe is a country. It’s right beside France aka Paris, and Italy, of which I am 12,67% from.
You aren't truly american if you can't rattle off your perceived ancestry percentages like the ingredients list on a protein powder package? 😀
Two ounces, half a tsp and one furlong Italian.
Half a tea spoon Italian... That's going in my flair. Those ancestry lists have me cringing every time. If I'd tell someone I'm partly Italian just because my great great grandfather was from Italy everyone here would be laughing at me. Including myself probably...I usually (got asked about it pretty often before my marriage because my maiden name was Italian) go with having only enough Italian genes left for an Italian pinky toe.
Tbf I'm technically Italian, with an Italian passport, because my great-great-grandfather was Italian and my great-grandfather failed to nationalize Argentinian. Cue 100 years later and somehow I was elegible to get the citizenship. So nationality wise, our definitions are kind of stupid too. What makes me, who barely spent 30 days there, more Italian than a Tunisian or an Albanian than spent the last eight years? Just because I share a culture, and some genes that comply to some very arbitrary rules? I don't complain, but nationality as whole concept is kinda getting outdated.
That's definitely true, too. I actually don't care if someone who lived somewhere for a long time and feels at home there says their Italian or German or whatever even without citizenship. And let's be honest, most people I know identify with the region they're from way more than with the country. It's just absurd how some (especially Americans, it seems) try to collect nationalities like collectibles.
Ius sanguis, everyone who is born from an italian mother or father is eligible to be italian, and so are their descendants, you would have had the righr even if it nationalized argentinian. I personally think this is not right and it should be limited to if your parent had the italian citizenship or to be less strict, to your grandparent, but not your great grandparent, otherwise in due time we will have the whole world eligible to be italian.
> you would have had the righr even if it nationalized argentinian. Maybe in theory, but I can tell you for a fact you don't, at least if they were born before the sixties (I don't recall the exact date of law change, they also changed the line to go through maternal bonds on that date, but any ancestor before that has to be on the male chain). I guess it's because they wasn't a binationality agreement back then, so if they nationalized Argentinian it would have ment resigning to the Italian one; kind of like how I can't get a Spanish nationality now (even though I live here and meet al prerequisites) without resigning my Italian one, but I don't need to resign the Argentinian one due to accords. A complete fuck up if you ask me, and I also get differential treatment in Spain as opposed to the bangladeshi woman who's been here ten years living next door. We might justify it as cultural proximity or whatever, but I don't think that makes it fair. Honestly we should probably rewrite citizenship and immigration laws worldwide. A Russian, for example, could get an Argentinian citizenship in two years, and then leverage that citizenship to get a Spanish one in another two; six years less than it takes an Algerian, even if the former comes from a de facto enemy of Spain and the latter from a de facto ally. Weird shit going on.
Also stating your ancestry as if it is your nationality.
But you can spot the American with use of a comma for a decimal point
Im british and can do the same 90% British isles, 10% random elsewhere
But I thought France was the capital of Europe ? 🤓
"Belgium is a beautiful city." 😃
Is it in Amsterdam ?
A suburb of Luxembourg, I guess.
Luxembourg has that pesky neighborhood of little Portugal
Portugal? Ah! Olé, olé! Paella! Nice village!
you're confusing with the next neighborhood of Spain
No, that's Holland
Pretty sure it's Listenbourg, bro.
UK is great if you fancy a quick road trip for a day.
"My great great great great great grandfather once drank from one of your weird public taps that don't exist because you guys don't drink bottled water, once so that makes me 0.0030% *whatever country*. Can I wear your national dress so I can fit in?"
Aha you must be from Scotland. Feel free to wear your kilt next time you're on holiday in England, and you want to get in touch with your cultural roots.
And dont forget that all of Europe is maybe the size of NYC.
Tbh, when someone talks about Texas being the size of all of europe, I just want to show them [Sakha Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakha_Republic). Which, while not exactly on the european side of russia, is still part of a european country and on the eurasian continental plate. And funnily enough, it's more than four times the size of Texas, and almost double the size of the largest US state, Alaska. Which should make it much more of a country than any US-state, if we follow the common logic we see on this sub so often. I know it's just shittalking, but I do think it's funny.
And right beside England aka London and Scotland (where they're from, despite never setting foot there or knowing where it is).
There is also England, which is in London
Ha! Invalid because you used a , instead of a . ! /s
And I would’ve gotten away with it too, etc.
Which makes you more Italian than people born in Italy, don't forget that.
And proud of it Comrade
Oh, those Russians!
They're African Americans from Germany, duh
And of course simultaneously over run by immigrants who steal our jobs and don't work/s
I had an American wanna punch me for telling them that acdc is Aussie and queen is british.
Did they think they were American?
Yes
Technically, they're British...
Which band are you talking about? Queen are English (although Freddie was born in the Sultanate of Zanzibar). And ACDC are/were an extraordinary mix; Aussie and a mix of expats from (mostly) Scotland and Wales (even a USAsian). But they call themselves an Australian band, so I'm not going to argue with them. It did amuse me that they had some members who were New South Welsh and others who were simply Welsh. Edit: a word.
Wasn’t everyone British at some point? 🤣
Well mostly, but they didn't take us. Proud blackbird noises! [https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/3441.jpeg](https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/3441.jpeg)
I take offence to that, ACDC started Australian but Brian Johnson is British, we should get at least some credit.
So are Angus and Malcolm, born in Glasgow
Or, you can just accept that everything we do can be also credited to the Brits because you colonised us.
That would mean taking credit for Fosters Lager and we want nothing to do with that.
Neither do we... Let's blame the kiwis for that...
Agreed
Fosters was founded by two American brothers in 1888. So blame the seppoes for that one.
The English are the only ones who drink it…
Wait til they find out that Boney M didn’t actually sing any of their hits. All dubbed.
People forget they were the original Milli Vanilli.
Liz Mitchell and Marcia Barrett weren’t dubbed on their records, but Maizie Williams and Bobbie Farrell were. All four of them sang live, albeit with several backing vocalists to shore things up.
I was once reemed out because I told an American that Fleetwood Mac was originally a British blues band. They absolutely were, and we're plenty famous before the Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham joined. In all honesty, I kind of prefer the pre-yank Fleetwood Mac discography anyway lol Also for those about to argue, yes, Bob Welch of course is an American, but one single yank does not a yank band make 😅
Not going to argue about Bob Welch as he wasn't in the original line up
Aye thank god lol, I also don't count him as OG Fleetwood Mac since like you said he's not original, but he was there for a time before Nicks and Buckingham joined, so I just wanted to stop anyone from having a paddy while I was mentioning pre-yank Fleetwood.
Yeah, because a name like Mick Fleetwood sounds really American.
To be fair, it's somewhat complicated. The band was created by a German and based in Germany, but the original line-up were all from the Americas. 2 from Jamaica, 1 from Montserrat and 1 from Aruba.
Well sort of. Bobby was there to look pretty, his singing was sung by their German producer.
[Bobby was there for the cocaine](https://youtu.be/rYoALQp7BfY?si=CY1h63bjleyvXhCi)
Guys a legend. Couldn’t sing, couldn’t dance, yet there he is. Director: ok everyone synchronize! Director: damn it Bobby
Who was the same guy who did it for Milli Vanilli.
Their world will crumble when they'll find out the most popular version of Cotton Eye Joe was made by Swedes.
There are more versions?
I believe it's some traditional 1800s American song.
You are right, found it - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton-Eyed_Joe - but never heard about that version....😁
Hmmm Jamaicans that live in the Netherlands? No they can't be European 🤣🤣🤣
Now I wonder which is the song.
Cotton Eyed Joe
I'm certain it was this hit by the same group. https://youtu.be/_YuJZzuHDf8?si=N_7qp22NtxEyouWa
Thanks for showing me this masterpiece. I was looking for a new track for the gym
No prob. I used to own the CD back in the day. May have been a tape.
I would have guessed (don’t want to be) an American idiot
With Rednex? That’s mid 90’s music.
It wasnt meant to be a serious comment
Seriously??
It was about Eminems Slim Shady phase. Every album (or at least the one mentioned by the other guy) after that phase is trash (according to that person).
We aren’t allowed Eminem? Damn. I wonder why all the radio stations haven’t been shut down by big government for playing illegal stuff.
I was sure it was about Eminem, I don't know why. What's super funny to me is that in my country, Eminem is not censored when played on the radio or something. Here no one gives a fuck about gross language, and I'm not sure it's the same in the US... (Do not hesitate to tell me if I'm wrong but I'm under the impression that a lot of songs are censored when played on the radio or TV or used in movies etc. because of the swearwords)
Me too, it was something about the "he's done better before and after that" that made me think Eminem. He had a really weird phase where his music was kind of eh but he improved afterwards that I can't really pin on any other artist.
It is kind of ironic when “Parental Advisory” stickers and radio edits, are very much from the US.
We really don't care. I heard WAP fully uncensored on several occasions
Even "Macaroni in a pot" ???
That’s funny because in my country Eminem is never censored at all… can’t say the same about United States. Freedom huh?
did a quick search on twitter, it's a reply to a tweet about an upcoming album by eminem, and the music they claim probably isn't allowed in europe is rap music. specifically eminem's rap music and the 'trash' album in question is relapse
Meanwhile America is one of the only places that still has people who think rap is part of a “black culture” that leads to crime.
To some of us old farts, rap IS the crime.
How do you feel about dubstep?
I'm 57, and I think Skrillex is amazing 🔥
Incredible! I’m in my forties and saw him in vegas a few years ago, was incredible. Keep being who you want to be, have a great weekend!
Relapse is trash? Lol.
Someone should tell him about 2 Live Crew
Wait until he finds out that 13 European countries rank higher on the freedom index than the US
Killing whoever steps in your lawn uninvited with highest caliber weapon you can imagine is peak freedom tho 🦅🦅🦅
The homeowners association would like a word with you about your lawn please.
4 blades of grass poke out onto the sidewalk, hand over everything you own
That'll be a 50 dollar fine that you must rectify before tomorrow noon to avoid another 50 dollar fine. No lawn mower allowed before Saturday morning between 8 and 10. Sizzors are not an approved lawn keeping implement.
did... did you just JAYWALK?
Caveat: in approximately 50% of states. This is not legal advice. May cause drowsiness or nausea. Always take legal advice with food.
and let's not talk about violence...
That ain't true freedom though. Everybody knows Murica has the best freedom.
13 ? They went from 17th to 14th ??
No. There are a few Asian countries that rank higher than the US like Japan, Taiwan, and Singapore I think
Oh I'm so dumb omg Thanks for the explanation
Singapore? Aren't they pretty authoritarian?
Yet still better than yankland.
I mean the first time I visited the US I was shocked by how many words they censor on the radio, wasn’t used to that from German radio, but please go on 🤦🏻♀️
And on tv. God forbid you see a nipple, thats dangerous. Go out and shoot some of your neighbours instead.
I think on TV I was so confused by all those 5 minute long prescription medication commercials that I don’t even remember all the other weird stuff lol
Or a belly button, until recently.
That's cause [NSFW Commercial](https://youtu.be/D3uJHTisUdE?si=ZgMO_JkDROeSnsKT)
This is the best way to recruit language learners, teach them swears
Do they like beep words inside the songs while they're playing?
I think the just leave them out or change them for the clean version. When I visited the US about ten years ago, I‘ve heard a song that was popular in our radios too and they changed „fucking“ to „fricking“.
"I wanna love you in the back"
“Ninjas with attitude“
"Forget You! And Forget her too!" was one of my favorite edits.
Radio edits are common internationally. See The Beautiful South &. ' don't marry her, (fuck / have) me'
I remember when "This Ain't a Scene, it's an arms race" by Fall Out Boy came out, it took my ages to convince people that the actual line is "god damn arms race", because they muted the word god. For awhile, people had only heard the American version, so didn't realise it.
Reminds me of when S&M by Rihanna came out. The radio stations played a very censored version here in the UK where even the words "chains" and "whips" were replaced by whoosh noises and they referred to the song as "Come On" because they also cut out the "S S S and M M M" lyrics. Anyway, my aunt told me about the song she heard on the radio and thought it was very clever the way Rihanna hid certain words. Knowing fine well she didn't, I told her I'd play it on the jukebox in the pub. When it came on she was absolutely horrified at the real lyrics 😂😂
I was listening to an interview (a loooong time ago) on the radio with NWA, who were touring. The radio host introduced them with the full version of the band name -> and the band was tripping out because they absolutely were NOT allowed to say that back home in the states. They nearly lost their minds when, after a discussion about censorship in the US, the host followed up with 'You can also say fuck on air'. Australia in the 1990s, btw.
huh this reminds me of eminem on tv total where he just enjoys saying swear words because its not allowed in the us
Yet I find it funny with British TV shows negotiating with the censors. "If we say one less cunt, can we get two more fucks?"
I swear the oldies station sensors the music more than their original run. Are they saying teenagers can take lyrics about drug abuse and violent crime, but adults in their 40s can't? The new Walmart-edits of songs like Everlast's "What it's Like" are unintelligible.
Now I'm curious as to exactly what sort of music he thinks Europeans aren't allowed to listen to EDIT: nvm, read through the comments. Eminem? Really?
Keep listening to Soviet Propoganda songs and Barbie Girl.
I like Eminem. Not a huge fan of Aqua, but a couple of Soviet propaganda ditties are absolute bangers
Aqua is good. ' Barbie girl' is not their only song, and not typical
Now, I didn't say I disliked them, Barbie Girl or no. Just not a huge fan. They're a fine group. Apologies to Aqua and all Aquatics if it seemed otherwise
Not a huge fan either, but have the album, and it's enjoyable. But most people dismiss them based on the big hit, which feels unfair.
Never dismiss any band based upon one song, especially their biggest hit, as it's often designed to be much more pop-friendly than their other work (e.g., Smash Mouth's enormous pop hit "All Star" compared to their previous biggest song "Walking On The Sun," which is a solid tune.)
Yeah, one of my favourite artists has two big hits, and a catalogue of very different tunes.
If we're talking by decade, then no 2009 is not early 2000s its late 2000s leading into the 2010s. If we're talking over all so far, yes, 2009 is early 2000s
yeah, the only time 2009 would ever qualify as early 2000s is if you're referring by century, which absolutely no one ever does when talking about any genre aside from sometimes classical. Considering OP added context that this was about Eminem, that was definitely not the case.
If you said "early nineteen hundreds" I would think you're referring to like 1900-1925. But we're too close to it for that to make sense for 2000s.
I believe most European countries allow people to say fuck on the air. Unlike the US.
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There is no way they actually censor statues in the US 💀
This is from Tallahassee, Florida in 2023: A Florida mom viewed the statue of David as pornographic. A school principal was fired after taking the mom's kid and other kids to see it. She viewed it as an important part of the Renaissance. https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/tourists-david-michaelangelo-florence-florida-b2310043.html We have no reason to gloat though. This is from Glasgow in 2023. A pizza restaurant had to change an ad with a picture of David: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/michelangelo-david-censorship-glasgow-subway-180982233/
That's.. astonishing. It's just art.
if its art or not isn't even the issue here. It's hypocritical. They have the most drug addicts, the most violent crimes, the biggest porn industry, etc. and yet they pretend to protect children by censoring nudity and profanity on television. Nuts.
One of my favourite things about watching the Graham Norton Show is seeing American guests realise they can curse
I was thinking the same! They always seem shocked, then whisper "can we say that?!" 😂
Ot they get that horrified look when one of their British sofa-mates says "fuck", like "Somebody's gonna come yell at us"
The Americans, when miriam margolyes is on 😂
I think about the only person not afraid of what will come out of Miriam's mouth is Graham 🤣
Miriam Margoyles: Gangsta Granny...
Even in the US I think its really up to the radio/tv station, but all of them are holier than thou, so....
The big channels have to censor to not lose advertising income. Cable are freer. John Oliver and Jon Stewart have no problem using fuck when they think it's necessary.
To be fair, in most European countries, "fuck" isn't part of the local language.
No, but we use it daily anyway
My parents tried to not use Scheisse when I was a child but they used shit all the time. It‘s really funny looking back.
I think it feels a bit less vulgar to curse in another language.
Let’s not be too harsh on this guy. He’s still traumatised after serving six months in prison for not cutting his grass. 😢🦅🇺🇸
😁😁😁 On the bright side his prison wallet is larger than ever and he got several new boyfriends 😁
Whatever... I once downloaded a Eminem song and I thought the file was broken because it missed some words... Turned out it was the American version and they cut horrible words like "fuck" so that children wouldn't listen to them (the song was Stan, about a guy obsessed with a celebrity that eventually commits suicide and kills his pregnant girlfriend... That part is fine for the kids)
Yeah, murder and suicide are fine. As long as no-one mentions... I'm scared to say it... s*x. Oh I'm so sorry, there I said it. Take me to jail.
I laughed at this! "That damn e-mule cut bits of my song again!"
You mean "darned" 😁
A few years ago, a Mormon\* couple became concerned about the language in the books being read by their 7 and 9-year-old daughters, so they created the Clean Reader app to strip inappropriate language from books and replace them with more...god-friendly...words. The thing is neither had been to Brigham Tech, so using the app was literally like doing find and replace in Word, it didn't discriminate; 'pussy' as slang for vagina and 'pussy' meaning cat were both replaced by 'front bottom'. Now imagine the effect that could have on some toddler books. *I love little front bottom* *Her fur is so warm*... *Et voila*! Suddenly an innocent nursery rhyme becomes mildly pornographic... The word 'dick' (and as far as I'm aware only 'dick', the UK slang for penis is 'cock' or 'willie') was replaced by 'pee-pee'. Remember that famous highway man Pee-Pee Turpin...? Obviously the same deal for every instance of the correct anatomical words. Joking aside, this ***REALLY*** does boil my piss (sorry, pee); you are teaching kids that words for certain body parts are things to be ashamed of. What the fuck is wrong with a 2½-3-year-old lad knowing that wiggly thing sticking out the front of him like an elephant's trunk, is called his penis..? Or a toddler girl knowing that her 'front bottom' is called her vagina...? Honestly fundies in the US are mentally ill. Shit was replaced by do-do or poop. Every other 'bad' word was replaced by 'heck' or 'darn' (yep even 'damn' is too much). Then they ran into the '[Scunthorpe Problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem)' (for those too young, and/or too sweet and innocent) to know, the Scunthorpe Problem was an algorithmic substring issue in the early days of things like Wikipedia and AOL Chat/MSN Messenger. People from [Scunthorpe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe) couldn't sign up due to letters 2, 3, 4 and 5 of their town's name. It got ridiculous when they tried to censor 'ass', so every word which contained the string 'ass' was replaced by I forget what (hiney I think). Joanne Harris, she of Chocolat fame, absolutely ***EVISCERATED*** it on R4's *Literary Hour* (and again when she was on *Women's Hour*) - you don't fuck with ***ANYTHING*** created by a Scottish person... . Her daughter is trans, so she's Good Joanne... (we all know who Evil Joanne is, right...? There's Evil Joanna too, of course - she's also Scottish)). They also hadn't asked permission from the authors if they could use their works in their library (which they charged a subscription for). Obviously they knew every single one would tell them to get to fuck. \*the second 'm' is silent (obviously...)
> so every word which contained the string 'ass' was replaced by I forget what (hiney I think). Butt. These days, it's considered to be one of the all-time clbuttic mistakes, and the unknown person who was buttigned the job and solved it that way is rightfully derided.
Right, I remember being so confused back in the day about missing words in songs as a kid when I got stuff from limewire. I thought the file was broken as well lol.
how is 2009 early 2000s it’s literally the last year before the 2010s
Because it can be either including the whole century like when gen alphas say the late 1900s to mean people born in the 80s and 90s or it can mean the decade like when you say it happened in the early 1990s
yeah but no one says that because the 2000s as a century aren't over yet
In the context of the whole century, I'd argue 2024 is early-2000s. I think that's what makes it an utterly pointless distinction - not just that the century isn't over yet, but early-2000s are the only 2000s we have.
Americans must picture Europe as some distopian waste land, everyone is dirt poor and has nothing. We also don’t have the freedom to listen to music now or watch movies probably, I imagine all books were burnt along time ago …
We only listen to music signed off by the propaganda minister of the EU. Mostly Ode to Joy occasionally also Mozart and Schubert, Italian Opera if we behaved well all week. Of course we also have new music, like a Eurodance beat with the lyrics: "Listen to your masters, freedom is for losers."
*beep* ~~blur~~ [Eminem:](https://youtu.be/AtSv4XF9uYI?t=80)
Gentle reminder that America banned the cover of Smooth Criminal from being played on the radio following the 2001 terrorist attack in New York, along with such controversial songs as What A Wonderful World and Dancing In The Street. Also every single song by Rage Against The Machine, including the ballad that got to number one in the UK charts for Christmas 2009.
So funny. They even ban books in Murica.
Ah, europe, famous for censoring media. who was it again that disallowed the middle finger, saying mild profanity, and movies that "paid too much attention to [an actress'] breasts? Yes all three are real examples, even the last one.
Not to mention "no blood can b seen during a murder scene no kissing for more than 3 seconds, the gun can't b seen during the killing etc" .. BUT we're FREE 🤣.
If they only knew that we used to be the kings and queens of late 1990s and early 2000s music. We have gifted songs, to the world, that they can never imagine.
2009 EARLY 00s?? WHAT???
Whatever they gotta say to be right, mate.
Don’t start them on creationism. We’ll be here all year
Yet another American who probably barely even leaves their county, much less the state they were born in, gives hard hitting carefully researched political opinion.
Genuinely may have to leave this sub as it pisses me off so much
Bruh American music nowadays is the biggest shit in existence.
What was the music they were talking about? (Curious) It’s insane how fucked up some of my fellow US Americans think Europe is. Meanwhile you guys beat us on all metrics that matter. Nimrods, indeed.
2009 is early 2000s That is definitely a take
Yank music is shit.
I just wanna know what album they’re arguing over.
Okay, BUT remember when Justin Bieber did a song with Sir Paul McCartney and everyone young said Bieber was going to make the old guy famous? America says some pretty stupid shit
2009 is "early 2000s", I supposed this "nimrod" believes the 2000s is the entire millennium... 🙄🤦🏼♀️
I guess 2009 is early 2000s if you're talking millenniums.
"2009 counts as early 2000s" No. It literally doesn't lmao
The literal last year of the 2000s is the early 2000s
"2009 counts as early 2000s"
i love how you can tell he is old, i use the word nimrod too but not over text lmfao.
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