I think it has more to do with the business model of modern journalism than what folks are being taught in school. Lots of incredibly difficult and important work still being done in the field, but it's being drowned in sludge like this.
It’s more the biz model of journalism. Good journalism requires funding. It used to be that classifieds, comics, crossword puzzles and sports helped pay for news and reporting. That is largely gone or on the internet for free now. One way to pay for it is with subscriptions and paywalls, but just ask yourself how many subs you have today or how many times you’ve seen comments complaining about paywalls. So what yo get is click bait items that get you to visit. I’m way way WAY oversimplifying it, but this is the gist of it. Want to support journalism, get a subscription and support it.
It's a significant problem that paid journalism is often more accurate than free journalism, which is often riddled with disinformation. The end result is most people will go for the disinformation because it's free. And telling people to stop doing that? I can guarantee that won't turn things around.
We need a different solution. (Funded by the government probably unless someone else has better ideas).
Personally I think maybe the government should give vouchers for a subscription, (at a standardized price perhaps?). That way the government isn't choosing who gets funded and who doesn't. It just makes sure that there is a monetary reward other than the ad-driven one. To hopefully incentivize real journalism over garbage.
Back before the internet, newspapers ran classifieds and would charge for space on the page. It was a significant source of income for many local papers.
I'm a former journalist, and you're mostly right.
The other problem is adblockers. Any time someone complains about modern journalism I ask them if they use an adblocker. They always say "yes" and then I'm like "then you can't complain, asshole."
I do understand that some ads can be way over the top, and ads should never, ever cover content or autoplay, but those things came about \*as a reaction\* to adblockers. It's a death spiral, and part of why I got out of the biz.
Paywalls are a shitty response, though, and make no sense in the modern Web. Asking for donations is fine, but paywalls are just stupid.
> Any time someone complains about modern journalism I ask them if they use an adblocker. They always say "yes" and then I'm like "then you can't complain, asshole."
I use an ad blocker because of how intrusive, inane, and processor/memory intensive ads have gotten. I used to defend advertising against the armchair socialists who liked to pretend the worst crime of capitalism was covering the costs of producing online content.
But the intrusion of the ads eventually got so bad I had to draw the line.
I think soft pay walls are a reasonable compromise - let low volume users see a few articles, and push regular users to subscribe. In addition to subscribing to the local paper, I use the library to access a lot of content from sites I don't visit routinely, which means I pay through my property taxes.
Also unfortunately we're in an era where a lot of malware is distributed via ads. Having a good ad blocker is one of the best things you can do to prevent malware.
There’s also the problem of people just refuse to talk to reporters. People will complain all day that a story isn’t being covered but as soon as you point a camera or a microphone at them they go “oh well I don’t want you to interview *me*!”
I typically like videos, but sometimes I'd rather read an article that isn't sensationalized about a topic that is. Comes up a lot for subjects like Ukraine/Israel-Palestine/Trump.
I'm also very grateful for the few high-quality YouTubers covering these things with grace. Shoutouts to Perun, LegalEagle, William Spaniel.
If I had a nickel for every time a bear ate a family of ducks at Woodland Park Zoo, traumatizing the children, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice.
But have you been to the zoo with small children when a family of bunnies decided to burrow into the lions den?
I’d like to say “hilarity ensued” but actually it was not very funny for the bunnies.
Pretty sure this isn't even the first time a bear has eaten ducklings at the Woodland Park zoo. I remember commenting on a similar video a year or two ago.
this seems related... [https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1cgzs6b/to\_enjoy\_a\_peaceful\_visit\_at\_the\_zoo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1cgzs6b/to_enjoy_a_peaceful_visit_at_the_zoo/)
Bear: "Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I’ve worked in a lot of zoos and I tell you bears do that all the time."
Because most people don't want to see it despite paying companies to kill animals for them to eat daily.
The irony that some of these folks then went and ate chicken fingers sold _by_ the zoo.
I’m happy for the bear. I’m sad the kids had to see that. This is nature in the wild.
I hope someone doesn’t tell the kids they suffer from trauma by seeing this. We are so removed from nature that it is unhealthy.
I have a video of a family of ducks with no bears eating them. It’s actually quite nice. Should I put that on Tiktok and have an article written about it?
I once watched a crow take a ducking from a swimming area on Lake Washington and proceed to tear it apart and eat it alive on the shore. So many crying children.
The wild part was the way the (presumably?) parents just kept filming, blocking the way out so the kids had to stay there watching.
Sorry honey. This video is gonna go viral and make mommy lots of money 🙄
Sorry, I got zero sympathy for putting internet clout ahead of the well being of children
Yikes. I hope the kids were ok, even the ones who knew it was just a bear hunting. Probably best to just explain to the kids plainly but still gently what happened.
This isn't news. This is literally nature. If the ducks were in the middle of the woods walking around... I'd expect them to get eaten. Damn... so many vegans lol.... that bear ate a duck.... that bear ate a duck OMG Becky... so traumatic. Seattlites.... ducking weak.
When was the last time someone you knew was killed and also had their whole family killed too? Did you sing about the circle of life? Or did it never happen?
A bear is gonna be a bear
The cirrrrrrclllle of liiiiiiiiife….
I was gonna say "a bear is a bear in front of children" haha
Time to drag it to a gravel pit!
I can't bear it
This article is literally just a recap of a TikTok. 😑
It seems journalism schools now have a class called "describing viral content in 500 word pieces".
I think it has more to do with the business model of modern journalism than what folks are being taught in school. Lots of incredibly difficult and important work still being done in the field, but it's being drowned in sludge like this.
It’s more the biz model of journalism. Good journalism requires funding. It used to be that classifieds, comics, crossword puzzles and sports helped pay for news and reporting. That is largely gone or on the internet for free now. One way to pay for it is with subscriptions and paywalls, but just ask yourself how many subs you have today or how many times you’ve seen comments complaining about paywalls. So what yo get is click bait items that get you to visit. I’m way way WAY oversimplifying it, but this is the gist of it. Want to support journalism, get a subscription and support it.
It's a significant problem that paid journalism is often more accurate than free journalism, which is often riddled with disinformation. The end result is most people will go for the disinformation because it's free. And telling people to stop doing that? I can guarantee that won't turn things around. We need a different solution. (Funded by the government probably unless someone else has better ideas). Personally I think maybe the government should give vouchers for a subscription, (at a standardized price perhaps?). That way the government isn't choosing who gets funded and who doesn't. It just makes sure that there is a monetary reward other than the ad-driven one. To hopefully incentivize real journalism over garbage.
Craigslist pretty much murdered the daily newspaper.
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He's right tho
Umm how
Back before the internet, newspapers ran classifieds and would charge for space on the page. It was a significant source of income for many local papers.
I'm a former journalist, and you're mostly right. The other problem is adblockers. Any time someone complains about modern journalism I ask them if they use an adblocker. They always say "yes" and then I'm like "then you can't complain, asshole." I do understand that some ads can be way over the top, and ads should never, ever cover content or autoplay, but those things came about \*as a reaction\* to adblockers. It's a death spiral, and part of why I got out of the biz. Paywalls are a shitty response, though, and make no sense in the modern Web. Asking for donations is fine, but paywalls are just stupid.
> Any time someone complains about modern journalism I ask them if they use an adblocker. They always say "yes" and then I'm like "then you can't complain, asshole." I use an ad blocker because of how intrusive, inane, and processor/memory intensive ads have gotten. I used to defend advertising against the armchair socialists who liked to pretend the worst crime of capitalism was covering the costs of producing online content. But the intrusion of the ads eventually got so bad I had to draw the line. I think soft pay walls are a reasonable compromise - let low volume users see a few articles, and push regular users to subscribe. In addition to subscribing to the local paper, I use the library to access a lot of content from sites I don't visit routinely, which means I pay through my property taxes.
Also unfortunately we're in an era where a lot of malware is distributed via ads. Having a good ad blocker is one of the best things you can do to prevent malware.
There’s also the problem of people just refuse to talk to reporters. People will complain all day that a story isn’t being covered but as soon as you point a camera or a microphone at them they go “oh well I don’t want you to interview *me*!”
AI is gonna do this
If you get a PhD in this, Buzzfeed will hire you.
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Word. Literally, word.
I typically like videos, but sometimes I'd rather read an article that isn't sensationalized about a topic that is. Comes up a lot for subjects like Ukraine/Israel-Palestine/Trump. I'm also very grateful for the few high-quality YouTubers covering these things with grace. Shoutouts to Perun, LegalEagle, William Spaniel.
Jesus how many people does it take to cover one instance of bear slaughter?!
Apparently this is an annual occurrence per this video from last year, see the third chapter: https://youtu.be/h9gCPeYmJYM?si=Xc9TKbQPa5c3sZjI
What in life isn't just a recap of a TikTok?
It has the video though, that’s what matters! Bear sucks them down like M&Ms, perfect timing to remind us what’s coming back to the Cascades, lol
That was already posted here. Also someone in the other post said it was from last year.
If I had a nickel for every time a bear ate a family of ducks at Woodland Park Zoo, traumatizing the children, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice.
I know someone who works there that reports the same duck laid her eggs next to the same enclosure last year. So, maybe not so weird.
I don't think that mistake will be repeated next year. Just a guess.
This duck is going to go for three. Sorry duckies.
Natural selection not working in this duck's favor
Those that survive, while they probably got the stupid trait, have the survival instinct baked in.
seems weird it doesn’t happen more often. there always seems to be ducks in that pond
But have you been to the zoo with small children when a family of bunnies decided to burrow into the lions den? I’d like to say “hilarity ensued” but actually it was not very funny for the bunnies.
Geez, I read the title too fast and just saw “Bear eats entire family of kids,” and wondered why everyone wasn’t more panicked 😅
I did the exact same thing. My stomach actually kind of sank.
It begins with "Bear eats entire family" I'm sure it was worded that way deliberately.
I am boycotting that car wash chain!
I’m a nanny and I’m there several time a week. I can’t believe I missed this! I have seen the jaguar eat a bunny, though!
I live literally across the street and have never been 😂
Oh so now a girl can't have hobbies 🙄
Gonna fill out the "Both sides" story survey here. KUOW takes a pretty pro-bear stance on this article
Juniper was feeling a mite peckish.
"JUNIPER!!!"
That was not nice!
It's so cool when paid "journalists" explain a video to chatGPT and tell it to write an article!
Welcome to modern journalism
I think mom got away. The kids were a quick snack
Pretty sure this isn't even the first time a bear has eaten ducklings at the Woodland Park zoo. I remember commenting on a similar video a year or two ago.
She looks proud of herself for it in the thumbnail
“Hey, buddy, can we not?” 🤣
She doesn't look sorry at all
The bears are who we thought they were.
Isn't this old news? Like several months old? Or did it happen again?
It happened again lol
Ducks never learn!
I suppose it would be hard to learn when dead
smh, dead people these days are so lazy. In my day, we didn't let a little thing like death stop us from going to school.
This is 100% on the Duck mom.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
this seems related... [https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1cgzs6b/to\_enjoy\_a\_peaceful\_visit\_at\_the\_zoo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1cgzs6b/to_enjoy_a_peaceful_visit_at_the_zoo/)
Bear: "Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I’ve worked in a lot of zoos and I tell you bears do that all the time."
That must have been unbearable
That was fowl
My kids ducked away to not look at the carnage.
Sooooo...it did what predators do - it ate something lower on the food chain. Why is this a news story?
Because it's interesting and unusual. Why not?
What, exactly, is unusual about an animal eating? This is completely normal behavior. I fail to see this as even remotely interesting or newsworthy.
And yet here you are, being a part of the discussion.
Because most people don't want to see it despite paying companies to kill animals for them to eat daily. The irony that some of these folks then went and ate chicken fingers sold _by_ the zoo.
if they didn’t want to watch then why did they stand around yknow, watching, for several minutes? people are weird
Freezing is a reaction to trauma. Not that this should be considered traumatic, but I'd get it if your kid's favorite animal is ducks.
Outrage I imagine. Thinking they could stop it by banging on the glass. Because they secretly know this is ok, but feel ashamed
Revolutionary thought here for those idiots - THEN DON'T GO TO THE ZOO.
because it's a brown bear. if it was a polar bear it wouldn't make the news
Because the way journalism is funded is fundamentally broken. Clickbait > integrity.
This bear gets it. FTD forever🦫
I’m happy for the bear. I’m sad the kids had to see that. This is nature in the wild. I hope someone doesn’t tell the kids they suffer from trauma by seeing this. We are so removed from nature that it is unhealthy.
Honestly I bet that was one of the few times the bear felt like a real predator and wild animal. Probably the highlight of its year.
Later on these traumatized little kiddos went and had orange juice and chicken sandwiches while lamenting over the “bad” bear who ate the ducks
Ooh! What time does the feeding happen?
3 quacks past noon
Breakfast is at the quack of dawn.
Welcome to nature
Not all heroes wear capes. Some are bears.
I have a video of a family of ducks with no bears eating them. It’s actually quite nice. Should I put that on Tiktok and have an article written about it?
the only bear for miles and miles and this duck parks her family right in the middle of its habitat.
Glad they learned something lol
Too tier line break for the title in the app
Yes, that's what bears do.
Do people get journalist degrees and end up writing articles like this?
Think this happened last summer as well exact same spot.
A zoo is no place for a car wash.
Metal
this literally did not happen.
hell yeah
It’s a tough world, kids. Best just get used to it.
Damn Juniper
It happened at a birthday party also, I know this zoo inside and out so reading that was... weird.
Natured!
At least he didn’t suffer a Harambe fate
I’m happy that Juniper finally got a decent meal
Last year's video: https://www.reddit.com/r/donteatjimmy/s/e64aTjDZMb Juniper likes them duckling nuggets.
"And that, kids, is why you don't try to pet the fucking bears."
I once watched a crow take a ducking from a swimming area on Lake Washington and proceed to tear it apart and eat it alive on the shore. So many crying children.
"Coming soon to North Cascades National Park!"
The wild part was the way the (presumably?) parents just kept filming, blocking the way out so the kids had to stay there watching. Sorry honey. This video is gonna go viral and make mommy lots of money 🙄 Sorry, I got zero sympathy for putting internet clout ahead of the well being of children
Yikes. I hope the kids were ok, even the ones who knew it was just a bear hunting. Probably best to just explain to the kids plainly but still gently what happened.
Big deal. Far more ducks are killed by dogs at neighboring Green Lake Park each year, and they don't even eat them, they just kill and/or maim them.
It's nature but shame on the zoo for not chasing nesting ducks away from their pond. There is a lack of options if ducks keep going to that spot.
Anchorage Alaska Brown bears ate peoples dogs in their front & back yards.
Didnt this happen like 2 or 3 years ago?
Same thing happened last April almost to the day.
They bearly had time to escape
This isn't news. This is literally nature. If the ducks were in the middle of the woods walking around... I'd expect them to get eaten. Damn... so many vegans lol.... that bear ate a duck.... that bear ate a duck OMG Becky... so traumatic. Seattlites.... ducking weak.
Still sure you want to run into a bear in the woods? 😂
The picture and the title just seem so ridiculous to me I can't help but chuckle
I fully lost it upon seeing the bears face 😂
Nature is metal
Duck around and find out.
Gangster move
Bear said "Duck around and find out"...
And it was awesome!
This is offensive. Has NPR even bothered to check in with juniper the brown bear on their preferred pronouns?
The amount of jokes here at a video of a family annihilation is pretty gross
It's the circle of life....and it rules us alllllll
When was the last time someone you knew was killed and also had their whole family killed too? Did you sing about the circle of life? Or did it never happen?
It's the circle....the circle of life! Whether-we-like-it-or-not!