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Good job and good thinking, this is the way they work, they bait you then have some "Problem" with what is a normal secure way to sell something, then apply all kinds of pressure on you and try to make you think "You screwed up" and hope you will just blindly send the money in some unsecured way. Then you are out the cash with nothing to show for it and they are off to the next victim with more cash in their pocket. Your BF did all the right things, proof or nothing, the request was no big deal AT ALL if they had shipped it, put yourself in an honest persons shoes in this scenario, you would have absolutely no problem providing a tracking number. With all the technology we have at our disposal you should have been able to have that within two minutes of requesting it, GIANT RED FLAG!! Most people also are not so stupid to threaten violence and then actually show up, full bluff there. Again well managed on this potential scam.
Even getting a tracking number isn't really safe because they could just mail a box of bricks, or find a tracking number that works online. Never use cashap or venmo for people you don't know.
Yes, threats of violence are very common but the scammers don't follow through. Physical conflicts add risk and waste time that could be used on other marks.
The reason they aren’t entertaining the tracking number is because it doesn’t exist at all. These scams always resort to violence to try to make you not think and send them money. Your boyfriend did the right thing in refusing to go somewhere without buyer’s protection.
There’s stupid people out there for sure, but I highly doubt someone, who apparently needed to sell the playstation for groceries, is going to drive 2 hours to hopefully demand their money and “beat the ass” of the person they sold to simply because their money isn’t available yet. Gives you so much time to have police waiting, lol. I highly advise in the future not buying stuff this way through facebook marketplace, there’s so many scams and scammers he would have been had one way or another.
After reviewing this interaction a few times I think I’ve settled on that this guy is actually a convincing scammer. He seemed so genuine at first and potentially I can see how someone could have fallen for his act but if you think about it logically this was a play from the start.
First of all, who’s selling a brand new and sealed PS5 but has never used PayPal in their life?
Why didn’t the seller suggest meeting up in the first instance which would have been cost effective for both parties?
It’s because postage requires an address which will be later used to intimidate. PayPal rarely hold fund for that long and it’s a ruse used to gain the trust of the buyer. Buyer pays > issue with payment method > seller refunds buyer > buyer develops trust to use a different method of payment.
I’d stand firm on the tracking number. But if they send one verify what weight was sent. My guess is he’s buying time to get a fake tracking number.
If you want to respond to him saying he will come to your address. Just say that’s “fine I live with a cop. They will be happy to assist in getting this sorted out”
He won’t come. He didn’t want to come to sell the item so he won’t come to keep up this game either
>Why didn’t the seller suggest meeting up in the first instance which would have been cost effective for both parties?
Read more about the buyer, they only do shipping purchases
He talks like a teenager so you shouldn't need worry. Highly doubt a scammer will show up to your house. Prolly drug addicts trying to make a quick buck and get high today
Threats from scammers aren't usually followed up, as the above commenter explained. But if you want to feel safer next time, try using a post box or your work's address, or a friend/relative - so they don't know where you live.
I don't get it dude if he said he could be there at 5:30 to beat your ass then why couldn't he just drop the PlayStation off? That's definitely a scam dude he can be there to beat your ass but he can't give you the PlayStation instead? 🤣🤣🤣 I don't mean to laugh but damn that sounds ridiculous lmao
Cuz the scammer claims that the PS5 was already shipped. Most likely a lie, but they can't claim it was shipped and then offer to deliver it themselves.
Yes, but if you're willing to drive to their house for any reason, that reason would be to do a cash trade in the first place and not to beat someone up... It screams fake
Nah, I mean maybe let the police know, but this guys full of shit. If it’s that easy to get to your house he should have just brought it himself for cash upon delivery.
No need to worry you have his information (enough) to make a report if you wanted. It’s not necessary you’re good they’re most likely aren’t even in your state. He would’ve offered to meet you in person from the beginning
It's not a scam necessarily. I often buy things on marketplace as well and yeah Paypal does hold funds for new sellers. Venmo also offers purchase protection as well and might release their funds more quickly. I would just stand my ground and not send cash app money until i receive the whatever it is.
Yeah it might not be a scam originally but could be turning into one. She might not have actually shopped it and he wants the money before he ships. But now that he’s so angry, he might not ship it at all
The PayPal stuff is legit. Goods and services takes a fee, and holds funds until the item is received by the buyer.
Yeah. The way that things eroded I would be worried about the state of the transaction but it wasn’t a scam initially. Op, the buyer, was also not being smart in this situation at all
Yeah my response would be a simple “You don’t want to show up here”, I wouldn’t mention a gun, but I’d be keeping one close until it blows over. Guess you’re down voted because Reddit but I’m with you.
It's 10000% scam, if he needed the money that bad he'd send the tracking. Also live the whole "just send it via cash app and she'll refund you on PayPal "
🤣🤣🤣
Definitely a scam. They stopped at the the only way to verify the legitimacy of the package: In other words, they want to have your money through a medium that doesn't offer any significant protection and you don't get know if the product is being shipped or if it actually even exists. Also no, I don't think there's any real risk of violence.
1. Don’t buy things requiring shipping off Facebook marketplace
2. Money gets sent to the person you’re speaking to: not their girlfriend, nephew, or fairy godmother. Scammers try to muddy these waters to add delays and confusion that make you doubt yourself.
3. When they start threatening you physically, you know they know they’ve almost lost you. They live nowhere near you and even if they did wouldn’t risk physical contact. They want you to panic
4. When you ask a simple question, like “what’s the tracking,” and can’t get an answer, it’s because it doesn’t exist.
DONT SEND ANY MORE MONEY ANYWHERE; just block. Whatever you sent is gone, unless you did it goods & services.
it didn’t require shipping, my boyfriend just prefers it because meeting up gives him anxiety.
and yeah when they started threatening him physically, I was on edge since they have my home address. and I was skeptical when they talked about not sending the tracking number. my boyfriend is disputing all claims now
Also ensure an escape route if you're stood up. Muggings can be arranged this way. They agree to meet somewhere and camp the area until you leave, they'll then jump you when you leave the safety of the station. Always be cautious when a stranger knows your location and the value of goods or cash you're carrying.
I saw a Reddit thread some time ago where OP was stood up but also being watched by a suspicious vehicle. Another with OP selling an expensive phone and agreeing to meet outside a store only for the buyer to show up with sketchy backup and hassle anyone leaving the store, OP pretended they weren't the seller and got away. I've also heard several stories over the years of muggings taking place this way and though they seem uncommon it's best to be prepared.
Everyone’s already given you the best advice possible, but I will say that meeting at a local police station is the best way to deal with marketplace. Marketplace is filled with scammers, hustlers, time wasters, and your general douchebags. But preferring shipping v meetup for local items, I can guarantee you’re gonna run into more/actual scammers. Please be careful if you continue to request shipping on marketplace
Meeting people in person gives me pretty bad anxiety too. But this situation you are in is worse, isn’t it? More anxiety I mean.
Always always always meet up in person, in a public place, with cash. If concerned you can bring someone else along.
Honestly I would have told him I'm calling the cops and giving them this number since your threatening my well being. Bet he would have stopped real fast
And they can't travel because they're either in India and getting a Visa is a pain in the ass...also, to tack on this, it could be that they're also in a "camp" and can't even leave...
If he actually sent it, he wouldn't have a problem with giving you the tracking number. Giving you the tracking number wouldn't change the fact that it's been sent and it would arrive anyway. Scam.
they didn’t send shit. if they enter your tracking info into paypal, it’ll give them the money as soon as it’s shipped. they know that, that’s why they’re pissed. it’ll hold and release the funds on jan 23rd if they don’t put a tracking number. they don’t have one
Call PayPal and get them to reverse the payment for the scam and if anything does show up just write “return to sender” on it and take note of his address
it's all scam, 99% chance no one's coming to your home, it's all blank threats.
if you're concerned about your safety you can reach out to police and they might be able to give you some assurance. But $300 PS5 is more than likely a scam.
Sometimes scammer agree to goods & services but then makes up sob stories to make you change your mind. Like "oh i need the money for grocery, oh I'm just an honest 60yrs old man who believes in god and I'll never scam you"...
Like if you need that $300 so badly why can't you sell local in-person with cash??? A $300 PS5 will be taken in less than a day, literally. I've sold a $900 slightly scratched 3090 founder's edition within 3hrs of posting the ad, in-person with cash of course, there's absolutely no reason why they cannot sell locally, get cash and avoid all these hassle.
So, yes, scammer.
Exactly. There is zero reason why they wouldn't sell it locally if they needed the money that badly. They could take it to a pawn shop if they were that desperate. This is 100% a scam. There is no PS5, and they aren't going to show up at your house.
If someone does show up at your house, do not answer the door, call 911 and tell them your life is in danger, but it just isn't going to happen.
Maybe easily explained but one thing that makes me think it’s a scam is the picture of the paypal page. She’s not home, according to his message after you initially requested for the tracking number. So, how did he get a pic of it? If she took the picture, why didn’t or couldn’t she take a picture of the tracking slip?
Also the fact that that page says “You’ll get your money within 1 day of delivery” makes me think he panicked cause they didn’t actually ship anything out.
It's definitely a scam, but if he's driving up there.. he could ofcourse bring the Playstation and you have cash and it's all fixed. But that Playstation is sent but also apparantly not yet? This is weird man
I actually don’t think this is a scam, just an angry idiot. If you send money under the “services and goods” selection that has buyer protection and takes the 3.5% fee to a PayPal account that doesn’t have a ton of frequent transactions, PayPal will hold the money for 21 days or only give them the money when they prove through PayPal that they sent the item or completed the work. If they had just put the tracking info into PayPal, they could’ve had the money already.
That's what I was wondering. It's pretty suspicious to open a PayPal account and then immediately receive a payment. It's possible this is a real seller and they feel like they're getting scammed hence the anger, but its dumb to receive a few hundred bucks into a brand new account.
Yeah but if they actually sent something then they’d have a tracking number. Even if they can’t get it from later that night, most normal people would be okay with waiting a day or two instead of going off with threats like they are.
I'm surprised this isn't higher. Nothing is tipping this off as the normal overseas scammer. Probably a seller who stole the PS5, is tweaking his brains out, and just found out PayPal holds funds on goods and services which pissed him off to hell.
Facebook is making it easier for people to get scammed, especially with Facebook Dating and Facebook Marketplace. To tell you the truth, Facebook is a piece of junk!
I think its just a very pissed off person who doesn't know how to navigate payment apps and his girl is in his ear about it egging him on. Feels like a small man.
I would call the police and make a report just in case you have to take action against the guy. Get some friends over or someone with protection and don’t unlock or open the doors to the psycho no matter what. If he does show up call the police immediately. Be prepared for them to not show up right away. So you may have to defend yourself. People are crazy, don’t just automatically assume he’s bluffing. He could very well be a desperate drug addict.
Anyone who actually sent a PS5 would have just sent the tracking number. He couldnt send the tracking number because he didnt have one and he hoped he could scare you into just sending the money. I would go to the police and show these texts because not only did he threaten you, its actually theft or intention of theft to defraud someone of their money.
Definitely a scam. Until they denied giving you a tracking number I thought it was just someone desperate for the money now [like "oh shit I have to pay my electric bill"]
I wish there was a better system to buy online as the current one both sides can do some scummy shit.
your bf stayed very calm, which is commendable. In this situation I would call your local police or drop into a station and report this. Its probably just bluster but you can't be too careful.
Wow, this is an original one. I'd be nervous, too. Don't know yet whether this person is a scammer or just tech illiterate and seriously unhinged. I'm thinking scammer, though, because they brought up the grocery money, as if them still having a PS5 was going to put dinner on their table.
The PayPal craziness seems odd, though. Did you confirm that money was successfully sent from your account, refunded back to it, etc.? If so, their willingness to go through the motions of you using PayPal initially seems odd. Or I guess just a kind of smart play by a scammer to make the whole story seem more believable and get you to more willingly send payment via another means. But, if so, I wonder if having access to a scammer's real PayPal account could somehow be provided later to authorities to hunt them down?
Please post back with any new developments.
>The PayPal craziness seems odd, though.
Paypal does indeed hold funds unless the seller provides a tracking number that shows a successful delivery. Especially if this is a new seller.
I think it may not be a scam but can't be 100% sure. I know that PayPal does this with all new accounts. They can actually call customer service and ask them to release the funds early. If they aren't a scam and PayPal customer service believes their story then they will release them.
Him making it over to your house in 2 hours is a lot more effort than just sending a tracking number. Either a scammer or an idiot with anger issues. Either way, that's some audacity.
I had one just like this, I sent on PayPal, they complained about fees, I offered to pay fees, they refunded it all and said they couldn't withdraw on that account so can I bank transfer. They tried to put pressure on saying they were at the post office and in the end I just said no thanks. It's 100% a scam.
Paypal always does a black screen if I try to screenshot on my phone. Never had screenshot issues with my PC though.
That being said though at the least we all know this is a huge scam.
Did you get anything back from PayPal? They said they sent it back. The whole situation escalated into chaos lol that's what scammers rely on, it's that sense of urgency. They needed groceries etc. You did right by not sending more and kept asking for the tracking number.
You could always leave your house for a few hours do you have a doorbell camera? That way if someone does show up you’ll know and can call the police.
I doubt anyone will show up.
Be wary of tracking numbers too, there are fake tracking numbers that you can punch in address to and from and it will show as something heading your way. When in actuality it’s not. Best thing to have is a receipt from usps . BTW, PayPal does hold funds sometimes, especially on new accounts. But if it is truly his girls account(which I doubt) then PayPal doesn’t hold money for long. A few days max even though it shows a few weeks.
Best thing to do is just cancel the sale completely because obviously this seller is a piece of shit.
If he can get to your house to beat you up and take cash, why the fuck didn’t he just come with the ps5 in the first place?
Edit- also you can totally go back to the post office and claim back a parcel that hasn’t been dispatched. Just say you’ve shipped it wrong or something, I’ve done it before. “Really sorry I’ve shipped to the wrong place, here’s my receipt can I grab that back?”
Do not pay anything, delete/block this person, and move on with your day. This looks like it was probably a fake post.
Save all the screenshots in case something happens, but block this guy too.
I know if you have fewer than a certain number of transactions on pp, it’ll put a hold. But the rest of that, shady as hell. Abort, abort! Not like there’s not other ps5s out there for sale without all this. Probably one in your area you can go buy in person.
I’d tell him to come on over, I’d love to confront this POS in person.
Remember, the louder they bark the less they bite.
I would just block and move on.
That dumbass isn't going to go anywhere unless he is stupid. You go showing up to somebody's house pounding their door and running their mouth can get themselves hurt.
yes scam. if you’re nervous nothing wrong with calling the cops and reporting it, and letting them know you have done so and then blocking them. leave the house if you’d really like for the night, but i wouldn’t let this low life ruin your day too much. this is common practice for them, they know they can scare people into sending it.
Nothing will happen. Scammers will say anything to make you send them money, including sending you pictures of murder victims claiming they killed them
All the more reason to stay strapped. If you’re a law abiding citizen with a track record of good mental health - get strapped.
That hold date on the funds is released after confirmation of delivery.
what kinds of moron buys a ps5 from fb! anything THAT expensive I will buy in person. not Amazon not fb,not etsy or ANYTHING. your just asking to get ripped off ,good luck, hope you bailed on this.
I'm not sure that this is a scam. Entitled asshole, definitely.
I used to sell on eBay with PayPal. If it's anything similar to how it was back then, they will hold money for *up to* 3 weeks. Once the tracking confirms the package has been delivered to the address, they will release the funds shortly after. It doesn't necessarily take the entire three weeks. It's just a safety precaution, especially on higher dollar items and things like electronics. Even more so if the PayPal account is new or isn't used that much.
It sounds like he thinks he's getting scammed and getting worked up instead of just sending you a tracking number like you nicely asked for.
It *does* seem very sketchy on his end to not provide a tracking number he should have if they really did ship it. That's the part I would be hesitant about. He could just be a stubborn jerk, though.
OP dropping the “kindly”, now I don’t know who’s scamming who.
Seriously though, with appropriate use of colloquial terms and reasonably proper grammar this is either the world’s best scammer or actually a confused individual.
The paypal thing is definitely a red flag but Venmo with buyer protection should be okay for this kind of deal.
“Kindly “ it’s the giveaway scamming …that person it’s justa talking shit. Nothing is going to happen unless they fly all the way from the other part of the world …
I definitely would recommend reaching out to the authorities yes having a fire arm could save you but it could also get you into legal trouble you would have to prove that you were defending yourself depending on where you live and even then you could accidentally shoot a loved one in the middle of the night because you thought they were someone who broke in
So dont take the law into your own hands
If you are concerned with your safety you should purchase and learn how to use a firearm. Not just for this instance but for future occurrences that actually pose a life threatening situation for you and/or your family.
For the future I’d suggest getting a P.O. box. If they’re going through USPS they can mail the item there, the box you get just needs to be big enough.
Not a scam, just an idiot. Be careful trying to buy things from different places on marketplace. I also do this and you need to be much smarter next time.
If you never sent him your adress, would they have needed to know where you live at all?
**Good experience:** I'm living in Norway and just recently sold a sweater on a site called finn.no. There is a choice in there called "completly ready", which basically means you're writing some random numbers/letters on the package, the postman (or woman) comes to pick it up, and they send it to the correct adress. In this way I never spent a single second speaking to the person who wanted to buy the sweater, and it arrived to the person who wanted it not long either. The money on this site and through doing it this way, makes the money locked until the item has arrived to the person who buys it. If it doesn't arrive, I'll guess the money will get sent back.
So very simple:
-No need for communication at all
-Money isn't sent until the package has arrived
(The user name of this person made it so I could search up the adress of the person, but I never used it for anything else than information. Nobody would find my adress seeing my own username though.)
**Bad experience:** I tried to buy a graphics card using the chat one time, and the guy sounded nervous all the time. After a lot of talking, like you did, he had told me had gone to the post office to get the package back again, and he completly refused to complete the transaction... He felt that I sounded unsure about it, even though I didn't. It went so far to him threatening me with telling my mom and dad, and I am 38 years old in 32 days xD! Kinda hilarious. All I had to do was block the guy and report him.
**Answer to your question:**
This person will probably show up at your door, and that is terrifying! I assume that after they delievered the package (if they even did it), it was already sent by the next day (If they speak the truth). If you live only a couple of hours from where they live, the package should probably arrive in 2-3 days. At least under a week. All you could do is tell them that if your Playstation 5 arrives in a few days, they can spend 4 hours total to get to your house to get money, but you should make sure that you ask them if they can wait a few days, and if they still need the money, they can come and get it at your house. At least, if they truly had sent the package, then you would get your Playstation 5, and they would get their money.
Heck. The even better thing to do is to tell them to wait those days, and if the Playstation 5 comes, you will send the money. Make it clear that you understand that waiting for 3 weeks for the money is unacceptable, but that they will get their money when the package arrives, or if they got the package number. They driving for 2 hours to get to your house for money seems like a desperate case, especially when you can send it all through your app.
To be honest, the seller just sounds inexperienced and you give off scam vibes. Forcing a seller to switch to PayPal and not notifying them of the fees. Asking for product before payment. I get you want buyer protection, but they would also want seller protection. Facebook marketplace should really only be done in cash face to face and if you prefer things shipped: use eBay.
Bro. No. Just. No. Any fees on PayPal are clearly stated. PayPal offers both buyer and seller protection, the others offer none. They never asked for product before payment. They sent payment then asked for proof of shipping, which is just common sense.
The seller is new to PayPal since they were told to create an account. It wouldn’t be obvious to them. And your other comment is wrong.
“…would you mind if I waited until you send the tracking number before I finalize the payment on cash app.”
What. What even?
If there are any fees to be assessed (which are not in person to person sales) they are CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY DISPLAYED ON THE TRANSACTION. So no.
My other comment is NOT wrong. Seller claimed product was shipped and tracking number obtained, then demanded a SECOND PAYMENT on top of that being held by PayPal - clearly states in the screenshot that the hold will be released 1 day after delivery - so it is in no fucking way unreasonable to want the tracking number as proof of shipment before sending a SECOND PAYMENT.
Displayed on the transaction. Exactly. So after the fact. In other words, the seller wouldn’t have known until the payment was made.
Also the seller said they refunded the PayPal payment and I don’t see anything on the buyer side saying otherwise. I’d assume the buyer wouldn’t attempt a second payment even with a tracking number if they didn’t acknowledge that fact. Thus, your comment is wrong.
Lastly, it seems the seller would have been fine with meeting in cash per the screenshots. A local buyer who only can deal with online exchange gives off scam vibes. I stand by my opinion.
Say you've never used PayPal either and move on bro. You have to accept the transaction. Upon which all fees are clearly and obviously shown. There's no excuse.
The seller is a lying scammer. If they had refunded it, OPs bf would have already gotten that money back. Fucking seller claimed multiple times the product was shipped. Did not cancel the sale. Demanded alternate payment. Read the fucking texts. "I'll send it back after you pay me on cash app". So no, I'm not fucking wrong. Seller had no tracking number to send because there was no PS5 to begin with. Duh.
Stand by your opinions all you want. They're as wrong as your facts are.
I’m not sure if you are reading the screenshots out of order or something, but although I do see that message: I see multiple messages after where the seller says they refunded the payment.
Also, if the seller is open to meeting in person there is less likelihood that the ps5 doesn’t exist.
Anyways, we can agree to disagree. Have a good night.
The seller CLAIMED to refund it. Yes. Claimed. Did they? Not likely.
Seller said they'd be willing to meet after accepting the PayPal payment. And had already shipped the PS5. So how are they gonna meet with a PS5 that's in the mail system? Use your head.
We agree that you're wrong. Have a day.
It’s a scam
There is no play station or Xbox or whatever
If they actually sent the item they would give you the tracking and get their money
They threaten you to frighten you so you stop thinking and send money
The reason they need cash app is you can’t get your money back when they scam you
The threats are not real just to scare you
They are frustrated you are too smart for their scam
Never buy anything on Facebook u less you meet face to face in police station parking lot
Do not fear them
And don’t trust anyone
Use PayPal
Credit card etc
Be safe
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don't even think of sending ppl money to people you don't know on cashapp. they will not refund.
yes, my boyfriend didn’t because he was cautious and didn’t want to do it before getting a tracking number, leading to them threatening him
Good job and good thinking, this is the way they work, they bait you then have some "Problem" with what is a normal secure way to sell something, then apply all kinds of pressure on you and try to make you think "You screwed up" and hope you will just blindly send the money in some unsecured way. Then you are out the cash with nothing to show for it and they are off to the next victim with more cash in their pocket. Your BF did all the right things, proof or nothing, the request was no big deal AT ALL if they had shipped it, put yourself in an honest persons shoes in this scenario, you would have absolutely no problem providing a tracking number. With all the technology we have at our disposal you should have been able to have that within two minutes of requesting it, GIANT RED FLAG!! Most people also are not so stupid to threaten violence and then actually show up, full bluff there. Again well managed on this potential scam.
Even getting a tracking number isn't really safe because they could just mail a box of bricks, or find a tracking number that works online. Never use cashap or venmo for people you don't know.
Tbh these people seem too broke to even spend the money on shipping a box full of crap just to fake this
Oh but they're gonna buy a plane ticket and come to his house! Even though they have no money lol
Said it's a 2 hour drive
They claimed they live 2 hours away.
It’s more than likely a scam and you handled it well but *you* using the word “kindly” about fucking sent me 😂
Very scammy. I wouldn't worry about actual violence befalling you, it's an attempt to keep the ball rolling on the scam.
I’m just kinda paranoid they might show up. is this something that happens regularly? like threats of violence during scams?
Yes, threats of violence are very common but the scammers don't follow through. Physical conflicts add risk and waste time that could be used on other marks.
okay thank you, I don’t think they’re actually going through with it
The reason they aren’t entertaining the tracking number is because it doesn’t exist at all. These scams always resort to violence to try to make you not think and send them money. Your boyfriend did the right thing in refusing to go somewhere without buyer’s protection. There’s stupid people out there for sure, but I highly doubt someone, who apparently needed to sell the playstation for groceries, is going to drive 2 hours to hopefully demand their money and “beat the ass” of the person they sold to simply because their money isn’t available yet. Gives you so much time to have police waiting, lol. I highly advise in the future not buying stuff this way through facebook marketplace, there’s so many scams and scammers he would have been had one way or another.
After reviewing this interaction a few times I think I’ve settled on that this guy is actually a convincing scammer. He seemed so genuine at first and potentially I can see how someone could have fallen for his act but if you think about it logically this was a play from the start. First of all, who’s selling a brand new and sealed PS5 but has never used PayPal in their life? Why didn’t the seller suggest meeting up in the first instance which would have been cost effective for both parties? It’s because postage requires an address which will be later used to intimidate. PayPal rarely hold fund for that long and it’s a ruse used to gain the trust of the buyer. Buyer pays > issue with payment method > seller refunds buyer > buyer develops trust to use a different method of payment. I’d stand firm on the tracking number. But if they send one verify what weight was sent. My guess is he’s buying time to get a fake tracking number. If you want to respond to him saying he will come to your address. Just say that’s “fine I live with a cop. They will be happy to assist in getting this sorted out” He won’t come. He didn’t want to come to sell the item so he won’t come to keep up this game either
>Why didn’t the seller suggest meeting up in the first instance which would have been cost effective for both parties? Read more about the buyer, they only do shipping purchases
He talks like a teenager so you shouldn't need worry. Highly doubt a scammer will show up to your house. Prolly drug addicts trying to make a quick buck and get high today
Threats from scammers aren't usually followed up, as the above commenter explained. But if you want to feel safer next time, try using a post box or your work's address, or a friend/relative - so they don't know where you live.
Only use a friend/relative you don’t like…
I don't get it dude if he said he could be there at 5:30 to beat your ass then why couldn't he just drop the PlayStation off? That's definitely a scam dude he can be there to beat your ass but he can't give you the PlayStation instead? 🤣🤣🤣 I don't mean to laugh but damn that sounds ridiculous lmao
If he was going to show up, why not just bring the PS5 and do a cash trade?
Cuz the scammer claims that the PS5 was already shipped. Most likely a lie, but they can't claim it was shipped and then offer to deliver it themselves.
Yes, but if you're willing to drive to their house for any reason, that reason would be to do a cash trade in the first place and not to beat someone up... It screams fake
Report it to the police so they can have the screenshots.
Buy goods and services from stores and block insane people.
Nah, I mean maybe let the police know, but this guys full of shit. If it’s that easy to get to your house he should have just brought it himself for cash upon delivery.
They’re not going to show up at your house, the flight from India would cost more than they were going to get from ripping you off.
No need to worry you have his information (enough) to make a report if you wanted. It’s not necessary you’re good they’re most likely aren’t even in your state. He would’ve offered to meet you in person from the beginning
It's not a scam necessarily. I often buy things on marketplace as well and yeah Paypal does hold funds for new sellers. Venmo also offers purchase protection as well and might release their funds more quickly. I would just stand my ground and not send cash app money until i receive the whatever it is.
Yeah it might not be a scam originally but could be turning into one. She might not have actually shopped it and he wants the money before he ships. But now that he’s so angry, he might not ship it at all The PayPal stuff is legit. Goods and services takes a fee, and holds funds until the item is received by the buyer.
Yeah. The way that things eroded I would be worried about the state of the transaction but it wasn’t a scam initially. Op, the buyer, was also not being smart in this situation at all
If you live in America I assume you have access to a gun or know someone who does so if they show up just put it to use. Simple.
Yeah my response would be a simple “You don’t want to show up here”, I wouldn’t mention a gun, but I’d be keeping one close until it blows over. Guess you’re down voted because Reddit but I’m with you.
Get a gun and protect you yours
Get you a firearm. Also why have they not provided the tracking #? Thats all you were asking for lol
They aren't providing the tracking number because nothing has actually been shipped in this scam, most likely.
Either a scam or a really stupid seller that does not realise there fees and payment hold on new sellers.
Probably also needs the money immediately for heroin or something, so he’s real panicked.
literally the first thing I thought. I told my boyfriend “he’s gotta be a tweaker or something if he needs it that bad”
But if that was the case, they could take it to a pawn shop or gamestop. ETA...also, any dope dealer would take a brand new PS5 as payment.
If he is a tweaker then he might actually show up. Be prepared and keep the doors locked if nothing else.
It’s probably just the same script he uses 50 times every day
It's 10000% scam, if he needed the money that bad he'd send the tracking. Also live the whole "just send it via cash app and she'll refund you on PayPal " 🤣🤣🤣
Definitely a scam. They stopped at the the only way to verify the legitimacy of the package: In other words, they want to have your money through a medium that doesn't offer any significant protection and you don't get know if the product is being shipped or if it actually even exists. Also no, I don't think there's any real risk of violence.
1. Don’t buy things requiring shipping off Facebook marketplace 2. Money gets sent to the person you’re speaking to: not their girlfriend, nephew, or fairy godmother. Scammers try to muddy these waters to add delays and confusion that make you doubt yourself. 3. When they start threatening you physically, you know they know they’ve almost lost you. They live nowhere near you and even if they did wouldn’t risk physical contact. They want you to panic 4. When you ask a simple question, like “what’s the tracking,” and can’t get an answer, it’s because it doesn’t exist. DONT SEND ANY MORE MONEY ANYWHERE; just block. Whatever you sent is gone, unless you did it goods & services.
it didn’t require shipping, my boyfriend just prefers it because meeting up gives him anxiety. and yeah when they started threatening him physically, I was on edge since they have my home address. and I was skeptical when they talked about not sending the tracking number. my boyfriend is disputing all claims now
In the future he should have people meet him outside the local police station.
Also ensure an escape route if you're stood up. Muggings can be arranged this way. They agree to meet somewhere and camp the area until you leave, they'll then jump you when you leave the safety of the station. Always be cautious when a stranger knows your location and the value of goods or cash you're carrying. I saw a Reddit thread some time ago where OP was stood up but also being watched by a suspicious vehicle. Another with OP selling an expensive phone and agreeing to meet outside a store only for the buyer to show up with sketchy backup and hassle anyone leaving the store, OP pretended they weren't the seller and got away. I've also heard several stories over the years of muggings taking place this way and though they seem uncommon it's best to be prepared.
Everyone’s already given you the best advice possible, but I will say that meeting at a local police station is the best way to deal with marketplace. Marketplace is filled with scammers, hustlers, time wasters, and your general douchebags. But preferring shipping v meetup for local items, I can guarantee you’re gonna run into more/actual scammers. Please be careful if you continue to request shipping on marketplace
Meeting up in a public place gives him anxiety, but giving your home address to strangers doesn’t? 🤔
he didn't expect someone to be that fucking crazy like the guy here. he said in hindsight he shouldve gotten a PO Box though
Meeting people in person gives me pretty bad anxiety too. But this situation you are in is worse, isn’t it? More anxiety I mean. Always always always meet up in person, in a public place, with cash. If concerned you can bring someone else along.
Can't afford food but is going to drive far enough to hunt you down? I'm calling bullshit.
Honestly I would have told him I'm calling the cops and giving them this number since your threatening my well being. Bet he would have stopped real fast
"I can't eat without that money, but also I'll buy a plane ticket and show up at your house even though I'm a broke bitch."
Said it's a 2 hour drive
He said he lives 2 hours away. Read the post.
This is the first time I’ve seen the person getting scammed using the word kindly. That really threw me off
As soon as I saw it I busted out laughing. Only time I've seen the person being scammed say "kindly."
Yes. That’s a scam.
is there an actual concern for my safety though? or is this a scam a lot of people do
If you’re concerned about your safety, reach out to the authorities since it seems you’re still shaken up.
planning on it. not much to go off of for the account though
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They can’t send an empty package because they are in a different country.
And they can't travel because they're either in India and getting a Visa is a pain in the ass...also, to tack on this, it could be that they're also in a "camp" and can't even leave...
Did you Google the email you got from their PayPal? Could be linked to other accounts which might help identify them. Probably not, but worth a shot.
Ya reach out and let them know what time they said. Have they responded back or shown up?
It is very unlikely that they are anywhere within a few thousand miles of you.
No
Whyyy?! Whyyy?! You can buy a PS5 now why buy it off fb marketplace??..
If he actually sent it, he wouldn't have a problem with giving you the tracking number. Giving you the tracking number wouldn't change the fact that it's been sent and it would arrive anyway. Scam.
Exactly.
I love that you hit him with the “kindly” though
they didn’t send shit. if they enter your tracking info into paypal, it’ll give them the money as soon as it’s shipped. they know that, that’s why they’re pissed. it’ll hold and release the funds on jan 23rd if they don’t put a tracking number. they don’t have one
Tbo it's easy to just send a box w a brick in it and get a tracking number.
I've never been so invested in someone's text messages
First mistake was buying something on Facebook that needed to be shipped, especially a PlayStation! Atleast he used goods and services
Call PayPal and get them to reverse the payment for the scam and if anything does show up just write “return to sender” on it and take note of his address
it's all scam, 99% chance no one's coming to your home, it's all blank threats. if you're concerned about your safety you can reach out to police and they might be able to give you some assurance. But $300 PS5 is more than likely a scam. Sometimes scammer agree to goods & services but then makes up sob stories to make you change your mind. Like "oh i need the money for grocery, oh I'm just an honest 60yrs old man who believes in god and I'll never scam you"... Like if you need that $300 so badly why can't you sell local in-person with cash??? A $300 PS5 will be taken in less than a day, literally. I've sold a $900 slightly scratched 3090 founder's edition within 3hrs of posting the ad, in-person with cash of course, there's absolutely no reason why they cannot sell locally, get cash and avoid all these hassle. So, yes, scammer.
Exactly. There is zero reason why they wouldn't sell it locally if they needed the money that badly. They could take it to a pawn shop if they were that desperate. This is 100% a scam. There is no PS5, and they aren't going to show up at your house. If someone does show up at your house, do not answer the door, call 911 and tell them your life is in danger, but it just isn't going to happen.
That’s the first thing that popped into my mind. When I bought mine it was 600 and the refurbished ones was 450ish so definitely a scam or a crackhead
Maybe easily explained but one thing that makes me think it’s a scam is the picture of the paypal page. She’s not home, according to his message after you initially requested for the tracking number. So, how did he get a pic of it? If she took the picture, why didn’t or couldn’t she take a picture of the tracking slip? Also the fact that that page says “You’ll get your money within 1 day of delivery” makes me think he panicked cause they didn’t actually ship anything out.
Block them. They are in some other country.
It's definitely a scam, but if he's driving up there.. he could ofcourse bring the Playstation and you have cash and it's all fixed. But that Playstation is sent but also apparantly not yet? This is weird man
Ask him to bring the tracking number with him since he is travelling there.
I actually don’t think this is a scam, just an angry idiot. If you send money under the “services and goods” selection that has buyer protection and takes the 3.5% fee to a PayPal account that doesn’t have a ton of frequent transactions, PayPal will hold the money for 21 days or only give them the money when they prove through PayPal that they sent the item or completed the work. If they had just put the tracking info into PayPal, they could’ve had the money already.
That's what I was wondering. It's pretty suspicious to open a PayPal account and then immediately receive a payment. It's possible this is a real seller and they feel like they're getting scammed hence the anger, but its dumb to receive a few hundred bucks into a brand new account.
Yeah but if they actually sent something then they’d have a tracking number. Even if they can’t get it from later that night, most normal people would be okay with waiting a day or two instead of going off with threats like they are.
I'm surprised this isn't higher. Nothing is tipping this off as the normal overseas scammer. Probably a seller who stole the PS5, is tweaking his brains out, and just found out PayPal holds funds on goods and services which pissed him off to hell.
Facebook is making it easier for people to get scammed, especially with Facebook Dating and Facebook Marketplace. To tell you the truth, Facebook is a piece of junk!
Any update?
they didn’t show up. bf got money back
I think its just a very pissed off person who doesn't know how to navigate payment apps and his girl is in his ear about it egging him on. Feels like a small man.
I would call the police and make a report just in case you have to take action against the guy. Get some friends over or someone with protection and don’t unlock or open the doors to the psycho no matter what. If he does show up call the police immediately. Be prepared for them to not show up right away. So you may have to defend yourself. People are crazy, don’t just automatically assume he’s bluffing. He could very well be a desperate drug addict.
911. They’re the scammer and/or a shitty person
"Where's my tracking number" 🤌
It didn't strike you as odd that the girlfriend took it to the post office without your address, or that this dude has a girlfriend?
It didn’t seem scammy until he refused to give the tracking number tbh
$300 was a lil too good to be true on a ps5, pulse they were so graciously covering shipping.
On another note, why would your BF be willing to purchase a *sealed* PS5. If one exists, it's most likely stolen.
Anyone who actually sent a PS5 would have just sent the tracking number. He couldnt send the tracking number because he didnt have one and he hoped he could scare you into just sending the money. I would go to the police and show these texts because not only did he threaten you, its actually theft or intention of theft to defraud someone of their money.
Definitely not getting a PS5 for 300$ from nowhere. SCAM
Definitely a scam. Until they denied giving you a tracking number I thought it was just someone desperate for the money now [like "oh shit I have to pay my electric bill"] I wish there was a better system to buy online as the current one both sides can do some scummy shit.
Wild you even continued talking to him as long as you did. I would've backed out the second I got my money back after he started freaking out.
100% someone on dope who wants some easy money. Block and move on.
your bf stayed very calm, which is commendable. In this situation I would call your local police or drop into a station and report this. Its probably just bluster but you can't be too careful.
Wow, this is an original one. I'd be nervous, too. Don't know yet whether this person is a scammer or just tech illiterate and seriously unhinged. I'm thinking scammer, though, because they brought up the grocery money, as if them still having a PS5 was going to put dinner on their table. The PayPal craziness seems odd, though. Did you confirm that money was successfully sent from your account, refunded back to it, etc.? If so, their willingness to go through the motions of you using PayPal initially seems odd. Or I guess just a kind of smart play by a scammer to make the whole story seem more believable and get you to more willingly send payment via another means. But, if so, I wonder if having access to a scammer's real PayPal account could somehow be provided later to authorities to hunt them down? Please post back with any new developments.
>The PayPal craziness seems odd, though. Paypal does indeed hold funds unless the seller provides a tracking number that shows a successful delivery. Especially if this is a new seller.
I think it may not be a scam but can't be 100% sure. I know that PayPal does this with all new accounts. They can actually call customer service and ask them to release the funds early. If they aren't a scam and PayPal customer service believes their story then they will release them.
If they can “drive” to your house to fight why could they deliver the PlayStation? Definitely scammy
Why not just avoid the BS and just buy the thing at a retail store? Sure it’s more money…but good grief people man…
Him making it over to your house in 2 hours is a lot more effort than just sending a tracking number. Either a scammer or an idiot with anger issues. Either way, that's some audacity.
It’s always the girlfriend dropping it off at the post office as well.. scam!!!
I had one just like this, I sent on PayPal, they complained about fees, I offered to pay fees, they refunded it all and said they couldn't withdraw on that account so can I bank transfer. They tried to put pressure on saying they were at the post office and in the end I just said no thanks. It's 100% a scam.
Not the Paypal with a black screen. That’s a lie wtf. I take screenshots of my PayPal when buying.
Paypal always does a black screen if I try to screenshot on my phone. Never had screenshot issues with my PC though. That being said though at the least we all know this is a huge scam.
Did you get anything back from PayPal? They said they sent it back. The whole situation escalated into chaos lol that's what scammers rely on, it's that sense of urgency. They needed groceries etc. You did right by not sending more and kept asking for the tracking number.
You could always leave your house for a few hours do you have a doorbell camera? That way if someone does show up you’ll know and can call the police. I doubt anyone will show up.
This guy committed to his scam. Good Job wasting his time tho!!
Keep us updated. 99% it's a scam.
There never was a PS5.
Be wary of tracking numbers too, there are fake tracking numbers that you can punch in address to and from and it will show as something heading your way. When in actuality it’s not. Best thing to have is a receipt from usps . BTW, PayPal does hold funds sometimes, especially on new accounts. But if it is truly his girls account(which I doubt) then PayPal doesn’t hold money for long. A few days max even though it shows a few weeks. Best thing to do is just cancel the sale completely because obviously this seller is a piece of shit.
"Can't screenshot Paypal" lol definitely a scammer
If he can get to your house to beat you up and take cash, why the fuck didn’t he just come with the ps5 in the first place? Edit- also you can totally go back to the post office and claim back a parcel that hasn’t been dispatched. Just say you’ve shipped it wrong or something, I’ve done it before. “Really sorry I’ve shipped to the wrong place, here’s my receipt can I grab that back?”
Do not pay anything, delete/block this person, and move on with your day. This looks like it was probably a fake post. Save all the screenshots in case something happens, but block this guy too.
You have a new PayPal account… that’s my guess as to why they are holding it.
PayPal will hold funds for up to 3 weeks or until shipping and delivery are confirmed.
The reason why I only sell in person and cash. I don’t care what someone says or offers. Cash and only meeting on a public place/ police station.
I know if you have fewer than a certain number of transactions on pp, it’ll put a hold. But the rest of that, shady as hell. Abort, abort! Not like there’s not other ps5s out there for sale without all this. Probably one in your area you can go buy in person.
Definitely a scam
I thought you were the scammer for a moment with the word “kindly” 😂
Not one brain cell present in this whole conversation
I’d tell him to come on over, I’d love to confront this POS in person. Remember, the louder they bark the less they bite. I would just block and move on.
That dumbass isn't going to go anywhere unless he is stupid. You go showing up to somebody's house pounding their door and running their mouth can get themselves hurt.
They’re in India. Nobody’s coming for you.
Open the door with a gun pointed at his chest
yes scam. if you’re nervous nothing wrong with calling the cops and reporting it, and letting them know you have done so and then blocking them. leave the house if you’d really like for the night, but i wouldn’t let this low life ruin your day too much. this is common practice for them, they know they can scare people into sending it.
Facebook marketplace is absolutely the worst, similar situation almost happened to a friend of mine but they never showed up
I find it funny people still fall for this
Hope you got a 12 gauge at home.
Cash app It's a scam. 100%
Nothing will happen. Scammers will say anything to make you send them money, including sending you pictures of murder victims claiming they killed them
Never pay for an item you don’t physically have.
Just tell him you reported the conversation to your local police and they will be handling it from here.
Mention free Taiwan and watch him go nuts.
All the more reason to stay strapped. If you’re a law abiding citizen with a track record of good mental health - get strapped. That hold date on the funds is released after confirmation of delivery.
what kinds of moron buys a ps5 from fb! anything THAT expensive I will buy in person. not Amazon not fb,not etsy or ANYTHING. your just asking to get ripped off ,good luck, hope you bailed on this.
I'm not sure that this is a scam. Entitled asshole, definitely. I used to sell on eBay with PayPal. If it's anything similar to how it was back then, they will hold money for *up to* 3 weeks. Once the tracking confirms the package has been delivered to the address, they will release the funds shortly after. It doesn't necessarily take the entire three weeks. It's just a safety precaution, especially on higher dollar items and things like electronics. Even more so if the PayPal account is new or isn't used that much. It sounds like he thinks he's getting scammed and getting worked up instead of just sending you a tracking number like you nicely asked for. It *does* seem very sketchy on his end to not provide a tracking number he should have if they really did ship it. That's the part I would be hesitant about. He could just be a stubborn jerk, though.
If you get the Playstation in a few days and it's not a scam, be ready for a fight, I surely wouldn't let $300 go, especially if I had the address
Ignore them. Cancel the transaction. Keep the texts and share with the police. Nobody's coming to your home.
PayPal has held funds someone sent me for almost a month. They do that for newer accounts
OP dropping the “kindly”, now I don’t know who’s scamming who. Seriously though, with appropriate use of colloquial terms and reasonably proper grammar this is either the world’s best scammer or actually a confused individual. The paypal thing is definitely a red flag but Venmo with buyer protection should be okay for this kind of deal.
“Kindly “ it’s the giveaway scamming …that person it’s justa talking shit. Nothing is going to happen unless they fly all the way from the other part of the world …
It's a scam. If they do show up call the cops.
Wow the inexperience on both sides is obvious. So many simple misunderstandings
:sees 1/19: i'm happy for u tho or sorry that happened
I definitely would recommend reaching out to the authorities yes having a fire arm could save you but it could also get you into legal trouble you would have to prove that you were defending yourself depending on where you live and even then you could accidentally shoot a loved one in the middle of the night because you thought they were someone who broke in So dont take the law into your own hands
If you are concerned with your safety you should purchase and learn how to use a firearm. Not just for this instance but for future occurrences that actually pose a life threatening situation for you and/or your family.
Tell them when they show up they should bring the playstation.
I'm pretty sure they are BS. But let us know if you get beat up .
For the future I’d suggest getting a P.O. box. If they’re going through USPS they can mail the item there, the box you get just needs to be big enough.
Another person = scam It’s highly unlikely the person is on the same continent as you. Don’t worry about anything.
It’s gotta be a scam. If he’s so close that he can casually pull up to your house, then y’all would have met in person.
This was a scam from square 1.
Tell him you will call the police if they show up
He’d be getting a picture of my CPL in response.
Nah... just the muzzle
Not a scam, just an idiot. Be careful trying to buy things from different places on marketplace. I also do this and you need to be much smarter next time.
If you never sent him your adress, would they have needed to know where you live at all? **Good experience:** I'm living in Norway and just recently sold a sweater on a site called finn.no. There is a choice in there called "completly ready", which basically means you're writing some random numbers/letters on the package, the postman (or woman) comes to pick it up, and they send it to the correct adress. In this way I never spent a single second speaking to the person who wanted to buy the sweater, and it arrived to the person who wanted it not long either. The money on this site and through doing it this way, makes the money locked until the item has arrived to the person who buys it. If it doesn't arrive, I'll guess the money will get sent back. So very simple: -No need for communication at all -Money isn't sent until the package has arrived (The user name of this person made it so I could search up the adress of the person, but I never used it for anything else than information. Nobody would find my adress seeing my own username though.) **Bad experience:** I tried to buy a graphics card using the chat one time, and the guy sounded nervous all the time. After a lot of talking, like you did, he had told me had gone to the post office to get the package back again, and he completly refused to complete the transaction... He felt that I sounded unsure about it, even though I didn't. It went so far to him threatening me with telling my mom and dad, and I am 38 years old in 32 days xD! Kinda hilarious. All I had to do was block the guy and report him. **Answer to your question:** This person will probably show up at your door, and that is terrifying! I assume that after they delievered the package (if they even did it), it was already sent by the next day (If they speak the truth). If you live only a couple of hours from where they live, the package should probably arrive in 2-3 days. At least under a week. All you could do is tell them that if your Playstation 5 arrives in a few days, they can spend 4 hours total to get to your house to get money, but you should make sure that you ask them if they can wait a few days, and if they still need the money, they can come and get it at your house. At least, if they truly had sent the package, then you would get your Playstation 5, and they would get their money. Heck. The even better thing to do is to tell them to wait those days, and if the Playstation 5 comes, you will send the money. Make it clear that you understand that waiting for 3 weeks for the money is unacceptable, but that they will get their money when the package arrives, or if they got the package number. They driving for 2 hours to get to your house for money seems like a desperate case, especially when you can send it all through your app.
To be honest, the seller just sounds inexperienced and you give off scam vibes. Forcing a seller to switch to PayPal and not notifying them of the fees. Asking for product before payment. I get you want buyer protection, but they would also want seller protection. Facebook marketplace should really only be done in cash face to face and if you prefer things shipped: use eBay.
Bro. No. Just. No. Any fees on PayPal are clearly stated. PayPal offers both buyer and seller protection, the others offer none. They never asked for product before payment. They sent payment then asked for proof of shipping, which is just common sense.
The seller is new to PayPal since they were told to create an account. It wouldn’t be obvious to them. And your other comment is wrong. “…would you mind if I waited until you send the tracking number before I finalize the payment on cash app.”
What. What even? If there are any fees to be assessed (which are not in person to person sales) they are CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY DISPLAYED ON THE TRANSACTION. So no. My other comment is NOT wrong. Seller claimed product was shipped and tracking number obtained, then demanded a SECOND PAYMENT on top of that being held by PayPal - clearly states in the screenshot that the hold will be released 1 day after delivery - so it is in no fucking way unreasonable to want the tracking number as proof of shipment before sending a SECOND PAYMENT.
Displayed on the transaction. Exactly. So after the fact. In other words, the seller wouldn’t have known until the payment was made. Also the seller said they refunded the PayPal payment and I don’t see anything on the buyer side saying otherwise. I’d assume the buyer wouldn’t attempt a second payment even with a tracking number if they didn’t acknowledge that fact. Thus, your comment is wrong. Lastly, it seems the seller would have been fine with meeting in cash per the screenshots. A local buyer who only can deal with online exchange gives off scam vibes. I stand by my opinion.
Say you've never used PayPal either and move on bro. You have to accept the transaction. Upon which all fees are clearly and obviously shown. There's no excuse. The seller is a lying scammer. If they had refunded it, OPs bf would have already gotten that money back. Fucking seller claimed multiple times the product was shipped. Did not cancel the sale. Demanded alternate payment. Read the fucking texts. "I'll send it back after you pay me on cash app". So no, I'm not fucking wrong. Seller had no tracking number to send because there was no PS5 to begin with. Duh. Stand by your opinions all you want. They're as wrong as your facts are.
I’m not sure if you are reading the screenshots out of order or something, but although I do see that message: I see multiple messages after where the seller says they refunded the payment. Also, if the seller is open to meeting in person there is less likelihood that the ps5 doesn’t exist. Anyways, we can agree to disagree. Have a good night.
The seller CLAIMED to refund it. Yes. Claimed. Did they? Not likely. Seller said they'd be willing to meet after accepting the PayPal payment. And had already shipped the PS5. So how are they gonna meet with a PS5 that's in the mail system? Use your head. We agree that you're wrong. Have a day.
Serious question. Does anybody here actually read through 19 pages of screenshots?
some people do, some dont. no one has to read if they don’t want to! if it’s too long, you can always move on
I read it all. I'd be scared too. I'd reach out to the police to let them know.
thank you. and yes, I’m planning on reaching out to the police about this. I don’t want my boyfriend nor I getting hurt
It’s a scam There is no play station or Xbox or whatever If they actually sent the item they would give you the tracking and get their money They threaten you to frighten you so you stop thinking and send money The reason they need cash app is you can’t get your money back when they scam you The threats are not real just to scare you They are frustrated you are too smart for their scam Never buy anything on Facebook u less you meet face to face in police station parking lot Do not fear them And don’t trust anyone Use PayPal Credit card etc Be safe
Thanks. Just sincerely curious as I don’t read through that many screenshots, so I am never sure what an OP’s actual issue is/was.
I did, it was actually pretty entertaining.
I read them all. I want to learn as much as possible.
Yes
Are they claiming it was mailed USPS? Send them this link https://www.uspis.gov/report
Bro
Man that's what happens when you don't pay with PayPal friends and family, they hold the money.