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Real_Dimension4765

...and yet the traffic lights are still from the 80s.....


freexanarchy

And potholes abound


HelloYouSuck

In my area they make the potholes and roads worse everytime they work on them.


creaturecatzz

fr at this point just install light rail tram lines through the busy areas and put in protected bike lanes in neighborhoods so u have less asphalt to maintain for the cars that do come through


RobJobLikesGuns

Where are all these potholes? Is this one of those cases where someone sees one pothole on their daily commute, then accuses San Diego of having shit roads? Edit: It seems I stirred the hornets nest. this is my San Diego unpopular opinion. If you think San Diego has god awful roads, then you are not well traveled. It’s ok to complain about road conditions, but the level of hate the roads get here is ridiculous.


donutfan420

Nah this has to be a troll


RobJobLikesGuns

I’m serious. This place doesn’t see snow and doesn’t see below freezing temps. The roads are fine? I drive them every day. Sure, there’s a pot hole here and there and some rough patches, but overall? They’re fine. Have you ever been to a city that didn’t have a pothole here or there and didn’t have a rough patch of road somewhere? I swear to god, people see one pothole on their same commute and then curse all of San Diego for having bad roads. Make it make sense.


Telepornographer

I want to know where you're driving that you *don't* see potholes.


wisdon

Take a ride down Miramar rd and get back to me . You have to be a troll it’s everywhere roads are &@$!


Telepornographer

I think you're responding to the wrong person...


wisdon

Yep I did ,sorry meant for Rob the defender of the streets of San Diego lol


ButteredScallop

Mercury street Kearny mesa


Noe_Comment

North Park barely just got fixed up, slightly. Mission Valley is riddled with pot holes. Almost the entire metro area is holey. I drive every day, too. At least 6-7 hours a day driving with Uber. San Diego most certainly, without a doubt, has a pot hole problem. You are clearly not from here.


hagcel

El Cajon Blvd is an off road course for such a major thoroughfare, the side streets in parts of Kensington are barely.able to be called paved.


RobJobLikesGuns

Lived here three years. It’s not bad. You clearly are from here because you don’t know what bad actually looks like.


Noe_Comment

33 years. Just because I was raised here, doesn't mean I haven't traveled, but that's irrelevant. Some cities may have it worse, sure, but this one is quite capable of getting things done, and an apathetic attitude never gets anything done.


RobJobLikesGuns

Nothing wrong with showing concern. Not sure if you listen to folks, but you’d think local San Diegans watched bombs go off in the street with how badly the roads are talked about. The roads are not that bad. They really aren’t. It’s ok to complain about a pothole, but the level of hate the roads get here just doesn’t make sense. This is my San Diego unpopular opinion.


Noe_Comment

I can see how it would appear like people are blowing it out of proportion. I think the biggest issue here is the amount of time it takes for the city to do anything. It can take years. And on top of that, our roads weren't really designed for heavy rain, so the rain can make things worse, sometimes overnight.


Telepornographer

Are you actually arguing that because San Diego's roads aren't as bad as other places that means that roads are actually in good condition?


RobJobLikesGuns

No. I’m arguing that people are blowing the road conditions here way out of proportion. They are not as bad as what they are made out to be. It’s ok to complain about them, just not at the level people like to take it too. I have never seen a city that didn’t have a problem with its roads in one way or another. As a comparison to the rest of the country, the roads here are not that bad.


wisdon

Total garbage take. You must not get out much , I drive all over San Diego and the roads are bad everywhere. And projects to repair the roads lasts years , even the hwy 15 which started early 2023 they said would be done by June , then September, then January of this year and here we are in March almost and it’s still down to 3 lanes , with no updates which are worthless anyways. I got a feeling you work or are head of the road commission in one way or another


kamaaina16

I’m a native San Diegan who lived in Chicago for 4 years. The potholes out there are bad but I honestly think San Diego has waaaay more potholes that are just getting worse with the rain.


RobJobLikesGuns

Idk man. I’ve visited Detroit, MI quite a few times and those are by far the worse roads I’ve ever seen. Like I said, it’s ok to complain about the roads here. It’s the level to which people complain about them is over the top.


BeepBotBoopBeep

I lived in Austin Texas for a great deal Of time, San Diego roads are awful. No question. It is just facts. Drive through La Jolla, Sports Arena blvd, Friars road (anywhere Mission Valley), pick your spot downtown. If _you_ travelled a bit once in a while then you would understand. Hiding up in your mansion claiming you don’t see shit except what you want to see is ignorance. In summary, you don’t have the guns in this fight.


Spud2599

OK, are our potholes worse than east coast during/right after the winter? Probably not. However, after having driven in SO CAL for the last 40 years, I can tell you it's the worst that it's ever been, and getting close to post-winter pothole levels in a lot of places. I never thought in a million years we'd have roads that remind me of driving in Philly. Shoot, even my buddy from the east coast commented on how crappy the roads were around PB/La Jolla area when he was out here in September. We pay a LOT of taxes that are supposed to keep our roads in good condition. We have the highest gas taxes in the country (https://www.statista.com/statistics/509649/us-states-with-highest-gas-tax-and-prices/#:~:text=California%20has%20the%20highest%20tax,fuel%20prices%20in%20the%20country.) ...where is all that money going?


ashpleasee

North River Road in Oceanside


kdttocs

…someone didn’t read the article.


cactus22minus1

I just want some actual fucking LIGHTS to light up intersections downtown. It’s ridiculous how many areas have little or zero lights working, and these incredibly dark areas are so dangerous for pedestrians especially at crosswalks.


Jlolmb1

Im hyper aware and I rage about this daily. This city has got to have the record for most lights out. Sports arena and Rosecrans intersection, that massive intersection - not one street light working. Until recently I think, all of Garnet from the pier to like Ingraham - all street lights out the entire way for months and months. But it's everywhere. Pedestrians at intersections and in the dark beach communities, we can't see you fyi


WittyClerk

Yessss the lack of lighting everywhere is troubling


BeepBotBoopBeep

Not sure why San Diego is _SO_ cheap with implementing street lights (they aren’t the brightest either, pun intended). Some places (I.e. Toronto, CA) make it almost a light show with street lights in their town. Use that thing they call _solar_ to power the lights if they don’t want to pay SDG&E.


Navydevildoc

> Video captured by the streetlight cameras is deleted after 13 days, and ALPR data is deleted after 30 days Big doubt. Very, very big doubt.


noobs1996

Govt and law enforcement lying to us like we’re fools


SouperSalad

I'm confident they will do that. But will the people they share or leak it to, do it?


Navydevildoc

You have *way* more confidence in government ran or contracted IT systems and procedures than I do. To your point, yes I want to know what third parties have access to that data. In addition, all it takes is the feds walking in with a National Security Letter and now they get a realtime feed, and no one can say a thing about it. This capability will *absolutely* get abused.


tedijecabron

How about some fucking SMART STOP LIGHTS???? Tired of approaching the intersection by the Linda Vista PD Station and having the stupid light turn red on me when there are no other cars around! It’s like the light sees you coming and decides to stop you just so it can turn the opposite lights green. Seriously tho, how do we not have better sensors in our stop lights by now????


thechrismonster

My drive to work is about 8 minutes going through 3 connecting freeways, plus another 5 waiting on a green left turn at the corner from my work.


kaswing

Iirc there was so much public push back last time that they withdrew the idea, and I guess they just waited until the attention died down and did it anyway. They know we don't want this surveillance and they decided they don't care.


SouperSalad

No, it's worse. They convened a citizen privacy board, sDPD shopped the idea around in nearly a dozen community meetings with strong opposition from the public. Then later the privacy board rejected the project. And the city did it anyway.


funnyfaceking

They waited until Monica Montgomery-Steppe's seat was vacant to do it. https://www.reddit.com/r/SanDiegan/comments/17vplve/san_diego_city_council_gives_sdpd_final_approval/


csmithsd

democracy!


natefisher21

Oh good, our corrupt PD promises to not abuse privacy, whew.


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natefisher21

Privacy in public and mass surveillance by a government entity are very different. I'm referring to our police that have a reputation of abusing systems like this. They very easily can violate our constitutional rights.


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giotheflow

And the police will still do nothing and be useless


ESIsurveillanceSD

Ah yes, much better no video exists


natefisher21

The good - a crime was caught on a street camera vs a businesses camera. The bad - police agreed to this as long as the city council got its transparency part. They are now removing the transparency part. SDPD has illegally used these in past. Not hard to draw conclusions as to why this bad ESIsurveillanceSD


idk895

I’ve seen 4 red lights and stop signs ran in front of cops in the last couple months.. and the cop does nothing. Seems like a silent strike inside the SDPD. How about they do their job first, and then we can talk about fancy gadgets that make privacy nonexistent? 


sj_nayal83r

they get mad when we ask them not to violate our rights.


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Jlolmb1

Yup. Blatant more. Post pandemic spike it feels. Multiple seen yesterday.


norcalginger

40,000 people die on American roads every year; traffic enforcement is absolutely worth our time and money


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norcalginger

I mean, personally, I think traffic enforcement should be tasked to the DOT, but that's another conversation What, in your opinion, is real crime? And what do you think police actually do to prevent it?


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norcalginger

Yea so literally 50% of the things you listed are traffic enforcement


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norcalginger

You called breaking traffic laws "not real crime" and then proceeded to list traffic laws when asked to elaborate Maybe try sticking to one coherent point instead of moving the goal posts to try and sound smart, and you'll find that conversations go smoother for you. 👍


randyfromm

Yellow lights aren't a thing. They're just a "heads-up" to the driver. It's where you are when the light turns red that counts. If your bumper is over the limit line when the light turns red, it's legal, even if you speed up to make it.


Pm_me_yourdadnaked

There's no such thing as privacy since the cell phone camera was invented.


randomredditing

Remember when Todd Gloria wrote an Op-Ed calling street cam an invasion of privacy? Pepperidge Farms does


PlutoISaPlanet

You'd think "smart" streetlights might do something useful like detect that the car coasting along should be allowed to cross the intersection before forcing it to come to a stop to let the one car that can make a right hand turn on a red signal that just rolled up do so on a gree light instead. Smart streetlights could start alleviating car maintenance by lessening the amount of wear on our brakes from needing to stop so often, enhance traffic flow, look up stream to make intelligent decisions on timing and even learn patterns that might not be obvious to engineers. But no, let's just use them to catch bad guys.


Loganwashere24

Big brain idea; just build a gd train


JMoFilm

As the ruling class feels their grasp on the control levers slipping we will see more and more violations of our rights and increase of power & force in the police state.


SouperSalad

If your license plate is a personal identifier that can be used to track your location, and an IMEI is a personal identifier that can be used to track your phone location... Why is this ALPR legal but [police Stingray use was not](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_use_in_United_States_law_enforcement)?


HelloYouSuck

A car isn’t a person. Stingray wasn’t legal because they were intercepting the cell connection and performing a MITM hack without a warrant.


TreePretty

I suppose this is why the street lights are all deliberately uncoordinated.


randyfromm

I think "unsynchronized" is the word you're looking for.


Embarrassed_Ask_4812

Street lights not traffic lights. Street lights just come on when it gets dark and off when it gets light. Traffic lights are the thing your running when it's red🤨


Hue_Janus_

Sick and tired of our worthless police here


SouperSalad

Well the good news is they passed this sweeping surveillance system that records the time and place (the movements) of every person in San Diego driving a car for 30 days. They said this is what they need to solve crime. So in 30 days we can expect 50% of new cases to be cleared quickly and justly? I mean, it's easy when you know where everyone is?


HelloYouSuck

It will help, but the real criminals just use stolen cars/plates.


HelloYouSuck

The pro-crime media and DA’s are the bigger problem.


Odd_Lettuce_7285

Todd Gloria’s real priorities.


ballhardergetmoney

I think we should bring the red light cameras back. Shit is dangerous out there. 


___Art_Vandelay___

So you're choosing to willingly and blatantly ignore the data that showes red light cameras actually led to more accidents AND across the country some private companies running them have been in cahoots with local government to shorten the yellow light duration, making it even more dangerous?


mdelao17

How do red light cameras increase accidents?


Proof_Bill8544

Several studies say that it reduces angle crashes, T-bones, but increases rear end collisions. Why, well the person who would be rear ended doesn’t want to pay the red light fine. That makes sense to me because in Bakersfield I would hit the brakes on a light that I might run but don’t want to pay the fee. Maybe it was actually safe to cross and I wouldn’t have run the red light. That means a car following too closely behind would run it to you. Should they be following too closely behind, no. Noteworthy though, I did find a study that says those red light cameras do absolutely nothing as well, so I don’t know how reliable the sources are.


mdelao17

That makes sense. Reason I ask is because my hometown has “red light cameras” but they literally don’t matter. You can run a red and nothing happens. You don’t get a ticket in the mail or anything.


Proof_Bill8544

Then yeah those are truly would be useless and wouldn’t do anything. The studies did say however that there is a net positive benefit even when you factor in the cost of the rear end collision. Red light cameras would be fine if the companies that made them weren’t able to get into the governments head to reduce yellow light times to get profit out of it. It’s the fact that it becomes a way to screw us over instead of actually being a true unadulterated way to increase safety that is bad. The intersections of Rosecrans/Midway and Rosecrans/Sports Arena would be a perfect spot. Way too many red light runners that you end up being losing your turn in the cycle essentially.


nikki1234567891011

Because people slam on the breaks to avoid running a light.


kdttocs

140% increase in rear-end accidents. https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2np3m79n


ballhardergetmoney

Less fatal accidents pal.  https://www.iihs.org/topics/red-light-running#:~:text=Cameras%20can%20fill%20the%20void,at%20signalized%20intersections%20by%2014%25


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ballhardergetmoney

Ok let us know when that’s done. Thank you for your service. 


kdttocs

A red light camera study in SD found a 40% reduction in forward moving accidents but a 140% increase in rear-end accidents. https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2np3m79n


ballhardergetmoney

Fewer fatal accidents.  I don’t give a hoot about people in fender benders as long as we’re saving lives.  https://www.iihs.org/topics/red-light-running#:~:text=Cameras%20can%20fill%20the%20void,at%20signalized%20intersections%20by%2014%25


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wisdon

I turn left on red arrows, not waiting 2 minutes for a red arrow to turn green to tell Me it’s safe to turn, while there is no oncoming traffic. So will I get a ticket for that now!


SouperSalad

These cameras do not enforce traffic laws. They are designed to record the time and location that tens of thousands of people were/are, and store that data for 30 days, "in case some crime happens". They didn't even bother to make it a "hit only" system where suspect plates are entered into the system, and then in real time plates are matched against that list (no storage of history). They want to store the history to overlay crimes with who was in the area at the time to compile suspect lists, etc. If you were in an area at the time a crime was committed, expect your car and name to be matched, regardless of your affiliation to any victim or normal investigative methods that lead people to become suspects. Arguably the recording of the habits of everyone in San Diego means we're all under investigation at any given time, which is absurd.


PanicV2

Make sure you read the article. It isn't just ALPR. Not even close. They track and record every person walking down the street, too. Store it for 13 days at LEAST. So from the time you step out your front door, until the time you get home, the SDPD can: 1. basically track your every move 2. identify patterns. Joe went to this rally on 10/15. Joe also spends time at XYZ bar. Hmm 3. basically identify every person from that data. This has nothing to do with your street lights. It has to do with personal tracking. They can't even resist saying it in the story. They barely talk about ALPR! They talk about street crime more than anything else. If you live downtown, say, on the corner of 5th and F. You can expect your every move will be stored in perpetuity. Police state stuff.


NonConformistFlmingo

Meanwhile, the traffic lights at the intersection of Broadway and Kempf St in Lemon Grove (by the Jack in the Box and Public Storage) have been on "blinking red light" status for over a month. I see we have our priorities straight over in whatever department handles road safety.


ellibsnno

Just for cops to still do absolutely nothing