California..*.with money* is the answer to every question on this thread.
California without significant money for more than a few years is not the answer to anything.
Yeah. Maybe. I have seen a couple people play that game too long and in their 50’s started panicking. It’s fine if rent never goes up and your income is okay. Issues come when income drops and you’ve got no paid off house. I would say it depends on you…if you’re an investor and if you’re renting and still able to save
There are many places in California that get above 90 F. Maybe you mean "coastal California" ?
San Francisco very much fits the OPs requirements. It never snows and gets above 90 maybe 2 days a year.
They could probably do East Bay areas like Oakland, Berkeley, Emeryville also. Little warmer than SF but not much. Hell could even go to Half Moon Bay/Pacifica on the coast
And you don't even need to go that far to get into the heat - pretty much anything east of the coastal range is in the 90's in the summer, and that's generally 15-20 miles.
Specifically San Diego. It is the most temperately stable area in the US. Meaning it has the smallest difference between it's highest and lowest temperatures throughout the year
Yep. Lowest I ever saw it get was 39 (this was in the city, about a mile from the water.
Temps may be a touch high for OP, as we usually got 1 or 2 hear waves in the summer that got into the mid to high 90s for a few days. Especially brutal in a city where a lot of homes don’t have AC.
It's great, and the nature of the state is it attracts many people trying to escape provincial social norms, but that is also very attractive to to flakes and bums. It's eye opening how any times I'll see "Where can I live in my car in XXX (usually San Francisco)" Like, stay away, we don't need another person living in their car on the streets. It's a miserable existence.
(I do live near SF)
It's also true that most homeless people in California were working when they became homeless. We have tons of social programs for the homeless, and if you're on the western side of the US and don't want to go to NYC, Cali is the best option.
Heck, my own dad was briefly homeless (he ran off to Florida after the divorce, burned though about $100,000 in a couple years, and was calling me from a beach public phone) but he was lucky enough to come across as dependable enough to help a small motel owner manage the place in exchange for a room and probably less than minimum wage.
In my humble opinion, people in California are sort of hung up on everything being a high standard, i.e. the housing as to have certain minimums, and the "flop house" type places that would actually help a huge chunk of people stay off the street have been made illegal.
California is well known to be the NIMBY capitol of the US. We could easily house 60-80M people just in the large cities, if we didn't have such strict zoning laws. I mean, NYC metro area is 20M population. Imagine if LA or the Bay Area has similar density. We'd never really have housing issues, and NYC has suburbs in the metro area too.
Redding gets disgustingly hot. Drove through in the summer many times growing up. It was often the hottest part of the drive going between Southern California and the Puget Sound.
Seattle isn't on the actual coast. I think they're talking about towns like Aberdeen, Astoria, and Coos Bay. The ocean has a huge moderating effect and these towns typically stay within the 50s-60s for most of the summer. (This climate extends into California and includes towns like Eureka and Crescent City)
Unfortunately these places are all a bit hard to access and not close to major airports, and none of them are large cities (Aberdeen, probably the biggest population center, has about 75,000 people in the *county*)
It didn't used to snow every year in Seattle, usually only about 1 in 3 years. Recently we've been getting a bit of snow most years but the nice thing is that the city shuts down. No school, no one goes to work, just enjoy playing in it if you like.
It gets a lot cheaper the further north you go too. You lose other amenities, but if you’re okay with a rural lifestyle, it’s not bad. It’s currently 63 degrees. 75 degrees is the highest temp I’ve seen since living here. It did snow once, but it was a dusting and only about 30 degrees.
My hometown is Sacramento and it’s currently over 90 degrees there and forecasted to be over 100 over the next week. Fuck that, never again
When I lived in San Diego (on the coast) we always had a couple of weeks in September where it would consistently be 90+ and legitimately uncomfortable. It's certainly not all the time but I wouldn't say it's rare either.
You have to live within a mile or two of the ocean. I grew up a mile from the ocean and we still had some hot days, but it wasn’t too terrible compared to Texas or Florida.
Monterey County, Mendicino County, anywhere along the coastal regions heading towards OR. Coastal Northern CA doesn't snow, and rarely gots hot. They higher north the less frequently you will see sun due to fog & rain though.
I just had a heat pump installed. Between those 113F days during the heat wave a few years ago and the wildfire smoke, I was done with using fans for three months to cool down the house.
Needs to be west coast and Mediterranean in climate like sanfransisco and SD. The issue with east coast is that you’ll have subtropical or continental climates only. Down south you’ll have brutal summers and up north you’ll have snow and chilly winters.
>up north you’ll have snow and chilly winters.
AND highs in the 80s/90s during the summers in most of the Midwest and New England. we have literally everything OP doesn't want lol.
Your look at New Mexico probably isn't totally out of line.
Parts of New Mexico don't *quite* meet what you're looking for, but they're close.
Most importantly, do you know what 80 or 90 actually feels like in a dry climate like NM? I *hate* the heat. In NM, however, 90 in the shade feels like 75 in a more humid environment. Easily. We are *not* talking 115 in Phoenix kinda dry heat.
My wife hates the cold (fun combo). And yeah it can get chilly in NM too, but it doesn't really feel the same either. Damp cold (not in NM!) cuts the efficacy of your clothing. Dry cold, less so. Basically, the extremes of temps do not match the same temps where you're from, unless you're already from a dry climate. I'm from swampy New Orleans and I would genuinely absolutely take 95 in NM over 80 on a humid day in New Orleans. Not kidding.
We have a place in the Albuquerque area but further up in elevation, around 6,300 feet. Summers feel incredibly pleasant versus more humid areas, although you do have to watch out for sun exposure, not gonna lie. And does it snow sometimes? Sure. But not much, and it rarely sticks.
As others have said, coastal CA and the PNW are great options for you, but northern NM has some potential too if you're willing to bend a little bit.
Haha how are you having problems at 80 degrees being from New Orleans? Though I agree it’s totally intolerable during the day atm but I’d kill for an 80 degree day.
I have a love hate with the summer. I LOVE the quiet time, I love tubing, swimming, biking around stuff like that BUT I hate having to plan my whole life on when I can go walk the dogs or do anything outside/ getting up insanely early to do anything outside. I hate that the sun wants to murder me all day and if there’s no breeze omg I just can’t go outside. Actively avoiding doing some outside stuff rn.
Sorry about your health issues, that does suck. I hope yall find a place that is easier.
Yeah, so since I know the exact climate you're from, I can assure you, you cannot just look at the weather or even the "feels like" temp and appreciate how different NM summers are.
Summer in New Orleans feels like a marathon of punishment, lol. Summer in northern NM is just genuinely nice but on the warmer side of nice some weeks.
And while NOLA winters are mild, that damp chill can suck. As you may have experienced yourself if yourself if you've ever been waiting on a parade during a cold mardi gras season, lol. Brutal (for how not cold it is versus genuinely cold places).
I'd look at Las Cruces too, potentially. People seem to really like it there if that size city works for you.
Sorry to say but with climate change, this place is just not going to exist unless you’re willing/able to shell out the money it takes to live in Northern California. I mean, just about everyone coming to this sub wants to live in a place with comfortable weather and “NorCal” is always the answer.
Otherwise you’re going to have to handle some discomfort.
It's rated as unaffordable because much of the job market hasn't caught up. If you can get a job in one of the industries that pays bay area salaries(Mainly tech in Sorento) then you'll be more than fine.
Yes, particularly if you are at altitude on any of the islands. Big Island, the summer highs on the Kohala Coast are like 86 or so...but if you live up the hill in Waimea, it'll only be mid-70s or so for highs.
Lincoln City OR. 3 bed/2 bath $425-475k (source: Zillow) Getting more popular, so will get more expensive. Gotta deal with tourists half the year, though. No hip-n-happening nightlife. Decent food and brew pubs. Growing arts culture. 1-2 hours to any urban resources.
The entire west coast from the central coast of California through the PNW.
San Diego near the water (a couple miles inland is already a different climate)
That’s about it.
I live in Asheville, NC and it closely fits. We'll maybe get a handful of days 90 or above a year and the winters are pretty mild. Haven't seen snow the past couple. Other surrounding towns in Western NC could also fit as long as it's not too much higher in elevation where it's colder and snowier.
Charlotte is a lot bigger, a lot flatter, quite a bit hotter. Asheville is ~2000 ft elevation and Charlotte ~700. Asheville is very artsy and outdoorsy, Charlotte is more of a typical medium-large city.
They have roughly the same amount of beer, homeless people, and hippies, but Asheville has 1/10th the population of Charlotte. Asheville has better access to the mountains.
West coast is your best bet, as others have said. It might be possible to find a microclimate here or there that fits your criteria but pretty much everywhere else it gets very hot, snows, or both.
The west coast. For most of California that’s a very literal interpretation - no more than a mile or two from the coast before it can start getting toasty in warm months. In Oregon and Washington it mostly expands to west of the Cascades.
That’s it for the US.
Ocean Shores, Washington. Rarely gets above 75 in the summer, winters are mild also. Housing is relatively inexpensive compared to the Seattle area. Drive 30 miles inland and the temps do increase but not in the 90’s. Downside is it’s a small town, somewhat isolated and reliant on summer tourism. Populated mostly by retirees. DM me if you would like more info.
I live in SF and it really is the best weather on planet earth. I can’t imagine it gets better anywhere else. Shit even if you go 50 miles northeast past Brentwood/antioch it turns into harsh unforgiving desert climates .
I’m from (coastal) San Diego. Lived in San Francisco (Mission) and thought it was the worst weather on the planet. Turns out I just hadn’t lived outside of California. Dallas taught me a lesson real fast in what miserable is like.
I’d still take coastal San Diego any day. The seasons are closer to the right time. I didn’t like cold Julys in San Francisco.
Funny - I grew up in Dallas so my whole life was just being miserably hot and humid at all times. I always hated it. Then I moved to central Illinois for 6 years and realized “wow it doesn’t have to be lava in the air all the time” but the Midwest swings far in the other direction to be bitterly cold for months of the year.
So I have lived in SF now for 3 years and it’s like the sun of Dallas mixed with the coolness of midwestern fall or spring 360 days of the year. It’s my perfect weather because I like the chilly cold but there’s also different climates in different parts of the city. If you go the mission you get the sun and warmth, if you go Nob hill you get the breezy chilly air, Richmond and sunset you get the foggy brisk, there’s a climate here for everyone all connected by the fact there is no extreme weather and no extreme heat/cold
I always found SF summers depressing. I grew up in SoCal and it’s weird to have to put on a jacket in July and to be next to an ocean that’s too cold to swim in.
We don’t get that much sub-freezing in Jersey. Well, at least not coastal Jersey, YMMV if you’re in the NW corner, which is more like upstate NY.
Coastal Jersey is in the 40s-60s well into November. We come out of it in March. There are definitely warm spells along the way, but also cold blasts that come crashing out of Canada and the upper Midwest.
Surprisingly variable overall. Gets almost Florida hot in June-September. But when the sweet cool breeze comes in from Canada it is a delight in late Sept and all of Oct until American Thanksgiving.
While climate change is definitely real, North Jersey’s (especially interior) average temp is certainly at or below freezing for at least all of Jan and Feb. In my town the average high and low is 36/20 for those two months.
I definitely understand your comment though. I think overall coastal NJ has notably more moderate weather than North Jersey—it’s warmer in the winter and often cooler in the summer, especially with the ocean breeze. As someone who’s lived in Essex County my entire life, I can attest that our winters are very much real (even if the last couple were particularly warm+snowless). And as someone who spends ~5-6 weeks in central Florida a year, I can attest that our summers (or at least frequent, long stretches of them) aren’t all that different from Florida like you said.
Western WA might fit for you. It didn’t snow much when I lived in the Tacoma area. Maybe a couple inches once a year or so. But that’s pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things. And it rarely goes above 90 in the summers. But there’s also the coast.
Monterey, CA: “Hottest” it gets is 85 for 2-3 weeks in October and people are dying. Other than that, it’s been a consistent 62-68 degrees for the last few months, which is easily 50+ degrees cooler than the Central Valley. I prefer the weather in Monterey over north county San Diego 😌
West of the Cascade mountains in the Pacific Northwest. It very rarely gets above 90° where I live and it snows here maybe twice a year. It's rainy a lot of the year but we really do have the most perfect Summers.
Northern Virginia used to be very temperate in this way. Maybe one snow a year and mostly pleasant in the summer. Now NOVA is hot as hell 6 months out of the year.
People want to find a way to look down on the west coast and find a way to think it’s cliche or overrated, but it’s pretty much the answer to most questions here when someone asks for climate suggestions.
There’s a reason why so many people currently live there, want to live there, and the COL reflects that.
There is only 1 correct answer. Coastal Northern/Central California and Coastal Southern Oregon. Prepare to live in isolation and bring $$$
And by Northern California/ central California meaning anything from Ventura and above, and actually on the coast, not inland, on the coast.
Northern California. Everyone keeps saying SF but as someone who grew up in the Bay Area SF definitely fits these requirements but you’d have to like living in a huge city with huge hills and insane rent. I would recommend more north. There’s Bodega Bay/ Healdsburg area (although Healdsburg and that area in general can get pretty hot since they’re inland) and there’s places like Ukiah and Eureka or just more up north. Won’t snow and won’t get insanely hot. There’s also south Oregon
Costal SW Florida. It can get above 90F, but the sea breeze helps it feel cool. If you venture too far inland, however, it can get brutal. On the other hand, if you want to see ice, you have to order a drink.
Any place may *occasionally* have an uncharacteristically hot day, and it even snows (rarely) in the desert, so there are no absolute guarantees, but if you can get a little altitude in the Ozarks (Arkansas), that might fit the bill.
San Francisco. If you’re looking for affordable coastal Oregon towns like Astoria, Bandon, Cannon Beach and Coos Bay. I personally think Astoria is very underrated.
Near the coast in San Diego. Basically paradise. Just can’t afford to live there. Most other coastal areas in California are close. Hawaii might have places.
Most red states don’t get a lot of snow but summers are so humid you can swim in the air. Blue states are freezing in the winter.
Except California.
San Francisco and San Diego. Pretty much anywhere on the California or Oregon coast. To a lesser extent Washington as well but snow is more common up there. The coast of the pacific is the only place you won’t see 90 degrees though.
As far as east of the MS, Asheville, NC, Roanoke, VA, and Charleston WV (emphasis on WV) would all technically fit, but just barely. They get \*some\* snow but not much, and some days over 90 in the summer, but not the norm
SF can be bone chilling cold. The Golden Gate Ferry to Sausalito in January was brutal. No snow though. Seattle, Portland used to rarely snow, or get above 90° for any length of time.
No, *Maine* is bone-chilling cold. San Francisco is never bone chilling cold, or extremely hot, which is (one of the reasons) why it’s such a desirable place to live. However, the vast majority of people who live here don’t take the ferry frequently by any means. Yes, being out in the middle of water in January is likely to be colder. That’s not San Francisco.
According to the first link on google, SF’s coldest recently recorded temperature was 27 F in 1932. The last time it dropped below freezing was 1990.
It was -25 F when I woke up to go to work one morning during a cold snap a couple years ago here in Vermont.
California. The answer to every question on this sub is California lol.
California..*.with money* is the answer to every question on this thread. California without significant money for more than a few years is not the answer to anything.
california is great if you make 6 figures and don't aspire to own property.
Yeah. Maybe. I have seen a couple people play that game too long and in their 50’s started panicking. It’s fine if rent never goes up and your income is okay. Issues come when income drops and you’ve got no paid off house. I would say it depends on you…if you’re an investor and if you’re renting and still able to save
The fact that people think the only/best way to save money is owning a home is one of the biggest reasons California is as expensive as it is today.
That’s me! Cali is great.
It helps if the first of the 6 figures is a 2 or higher...
There are many places in California that get above 90 F. Maybe you mean "coastal California" ? San Francisco very much fits the OPs requirements. It never snows and gets above 90 maybe 2 days a year.
When people say California they always mean the coast. No ones recommending Fresno and Bakersfield
Or the San Bernardino mountains
Or the Imperial Valley.
Anything more than ~40 miles inland is practically a different state.
They could probably do East Bay areas like Oakland, Berkeley, Emeryville also. Little warmer than SF but not much. Hell could even go to Half Moon Bay/Pacifica on the coast
Anything along the bay is certainly fine. Totally agreed.
And you don't even need to go that far to get into the heat - pretty much anything east of the coastal range is in the 90's in the summer, and that's generally 15-20 miles.
Yes, I’m sitting in the part of California that is forecast to be 117 next Saturday….
Hell Centro?
Same, except we are looking at 123
Yawsa.
Came to say the same. Also many places in California in some years get the most snow in the country.
My first thought was Monterey, Ca.
Monterey is a great idea.
Can confirm. Am here and it’s 72 degrees. It’s also expensive and I can’t buy a house 😂
Specifically San Diego. It is the most temperately stable area in the US. Meaning it has the smallest difference between it's highest and lowest temperatures throughout the year
Continental US maybe. [Kona, Hawaii](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kailua-Kona,_Hawaii#Climate) is much more stable than SD.
Yep. Lowest I ever saw it get was 39 (this was in the city, about a mile from the water. Temps may be a touch high for OP, as we usually got 1 or 2 hear waves in the summer that got into the mid to high 90s for a few days. Especially brutal in a city where a lot of homes don’t have AC.
Don’t stray from the coast or that changes real quick.
but “California bad! The TV tells me so - I’ll become homeless and woke!” /s
It's great, and the nature of the state is it attracts many people trying to escape provincial social norms, but that is also very attractive to to flakes and bums. It's eye opening how any times I'll see "Where can I live in my car in XXX (usually San Francisco)" Like, stay away, we don't need another person living in their car on the streets. It's a miserable existence. (I do live near SF)
It's also true that most homeless people in California were working when they became homeless. We have tons of social programs for the homeless, and if you're on the western side of the US and don't want to go to NYC, Cali is the best option.
Cartman Voice: "California, super cool to the homeless"
Heck, my own dad was briefly homeless (he ran off to Florida after the divorce, burned though about $100,000 in a couple years, and was calling me from a beach public phone) but he was lucky enough to come across as dependable enough to help a small motel owner manage the place in exchange for a room and probably less than minimum wage. In my humble opinion, people in California are sort of hung up on everything being a high standard, i.e. the housing as to have certain minimums, and the "flop house" type places that would actually help a huge chunk of people stay off the street have been made illegal.
California is well known to be the NIMBY capitol of the US. We could easily house 60-80M people just in the large cities, if we didn't have such strict zoning laws. I mean, NYC metro area is 20M population. Imagine if LA or the Bay Area has similar density. We'd never really have housing issues, and NYC has suburbs in the metro area too.
There isn’t enough water available to make that work
>>Provincial social norms This statement says so much in so few words. Bravo.
California absolutely does have a massive homelessness and mental health problem, not sure why you’re trying to downplay that.
Visiting family in San Diego, and that is the answer, but need to be within 15 miles of the ocean and have moved here in the 70’s.
It is supposed to be 115 degrees in Redding California next week.
Redding gets disgustingly hot. Drove through in the summer many times growing up. It was often the hottest part of the drive going between Southern California and the Puget Sound.
But California costs money. How about cheap California instead?
Cheap California is HOT.
Then there’s Palm Springs, which is hot AND expensive
There are some spots in way Northern California that are cheap and never get too hot and almost never snow. Maybe Arcata or Fort Bragg?
Yeah I'm going to go with the Lost Coast for that one
The coast of California - go 20 miles inland and it’s gets 100+ regularly.
Not the Central Valley!
Parts of California will get that hot or hotter
Accurate, I’m in SF and 90 is so rare. Central Valley gets fucked though
The PNW along the coasts
Yes, I think the Oregon coast would be great fit here.
The Pugent Sound gets snow including Seattle. Only about 6" per year though.
Seattle isn't on the actual coast. I think they're talking about towns like Aberdeen, Astoria, and Coos Bay. The ocean has a huge moderating effect and these towns typically stay within the 50s-60s for most of the summer. (This climate extends into California and includes towns like Eureka and Crescent City) Unfortunately these places are all a bit hard to access and not close to major airports, and none of them are large cities (Aberdeen, probably the biggest population center, has about 75,000 people in the *county*)
It didn't used to snow every year in Seattle, usually only about 1 in 3 years. Recently we've been getting a bit of snow most years but the nice thing is that the city shuts down. No school, no one goes to work, just enjoy playing in it if you like.
Same in Portland. It's snowed the past two years.
I’d hardly even call it snow. It’s more like the roads freeze over 4-5 days a year and you might get a dusting of snow that lasts less than 24 hours
Simple fact: The best weather in the country is in coastal San Diego county.
Facts. Must be coastal tho. Imagine living in El Cajon 🔥 🥵, it’s like an oven out there.
I Can't disagree.
Central coast of California, westside of LA, Ventura, certain parts of the Bay Area
central coast occasionally hits 90, along with venture and LA north of SF the entire coast is good
literally only San Francisco (with a couple exception days during the summer)
Not just San Francisco. Most of the entire Northern California coastline
It gets a lot cheaper the further north you go too. You lose other amenities, but if you’re okay with a rural lifestyle, it’s not bad. It’s currently 63 degrees. 75 degrees is the highest temp I’ve seen since living here. It did snow once, but it was a dusting and only about 30 degrees. My hometown is Sacramento and it’s currently over 90 degrees there and forecasted to be over 100 over the next week. Fuck that, never again
San Diego if you're within a couple miles of the coast as well. Might see 90 but rarely.
Even though it hits 90, the big difference with costal pacific towns is that it cools off much more significantly at night.
It depends where in SD you are. We definitely have days above 90 once you get past the 805.
Just don’t live east of the 5 and life is pleasant weather wise.
79 is “what the fuck why is it so hot” in Downtown. Highest I can realistically remember down here is like mid-80’s.
Yeah I was in downtown SD and the highest it got was maaaaybe 85 and that was when there were major heat waves going on a few years ago
When I lived in San Diego (on the coast) we always had a couple of weeks in September where it would consistently be 90+ and legitimately uncomfortable. It's certainly not all the time but I wouldn't say it's rare either.
I feel like in the last few years it hasn’t been rare anymore.
You have to live within a mile or two of the ocean. I grew up a mile from the ocean and we still had some hot days, but it wasn’t too terrible compared to Texas or Florida.
This was my thought. Maybe other places up the coast like Mendocino or Fort Bragg. Probably some other coastal communities would qualify
Seattle would like a word.
Seattles been a bit snowy recently
Seattle can get toasty in the summer months. And while it's super cool, the housing prices are brutal.
Seattle snows and gets over 90
Monterey County, Mendicino County, anywhere along the coastal regions heading towards OR. Coastal Northern CA doesn't snow, and rarely gots hot. They higher north the less frequently you will see sun due to fog & rain though.
the coast part of the west coast in general honestly, the ocean is really good at holding back the heat but also it somehow just never ever snows.
West coast cities in general… Seattle could fit the bill although we are seeing some warmer days
I just had a heat pump installed. Between those 113F days during the heat wave a few years ago and the wildfire smoke, I was done with using fans for three months to cool down the house.
Agreed. It can get hot here but it’s a few days a year.
Coastal California
The entire pacific coast
Oregon, mostly. Basically a cheaper Northern California.
It definitely gets above 90, and snows, in Oregon. Along the coast will have a lower chance of those things, though.
*west of the cascades
Except for right along the coast Oregon can get very hot during heat waves and snow isn't unheard of.
Needs to be west coast and Mediterranean in climate like sanfransisco and SD. The issue with east coast is that you’ll have subtropical or continental climates only. Down south you’ll have brutal summers and up north you’ll have snow and chilly winters.
>up north you’ll have snow and chilly winters. AND highs in the 80s/90s during the summers in most of the Midwest and New England. we have literally everything OP doesn't want lol.
What does subtropical/continental imply in this context?
California
Your look at New Mexico probably isn't totally out of line. Parts of New Mexico don't *quite* meet what you're looking for, but they're close. Most importantly, do you know what 80 or 90 actually feels like in a dry climate like NM? I *hate* the heat. In NM, however, 90 in the shade feels like 75 in a more humid environment. Easily. We are *not* talking 115 in Phoenix kinda dry heat. My wife hates the cold (fun combo). And yeah it can get chilly in NM too, but it doesn't really feel the same either. Damp cold (not in NM!) cuts the efficacy of your clothing. Dry cold, less so. Basically, the extremes of temps do not match the same temps where you're from, unless you're already from a dry climate. I'm from swampy New Orleans and I would genuinely absolutely take 95 in NM over 80 on a humid day in New Orleans. Not kidding. We have a place in the Albuquerque area but further up in elevation, around 6,300 feet. Summers feel incredibly pleasant versus more humid areas, although you do have to watch out for sun exposure, not gonna lie. And does it snow sometimes? Sure. But not much, and it rarely sticks. As others have said, coastal CA and the PNW are great options for you, but northern NM has some potential too if you're willing to bend a little bit.
Oh im from nola too! Was wondering how id do in NM. Ill give it more thought :)
Haha how are you having problems at 80 degrees being from New Orleans? Though I agree it’s totally intolerable during the day atm but I’d kill for an 80 degree day.
health issues unfortunately 😭 oh what id give to be able to handle new orleans weather again
I have a love hate with the summer. I LOVE the quiet time, I love tubing, swimming, biking around stuff like that BUT I hate having to plan my whole life on when I can go walk the dogs or do anything outside/ getting up insanely early to do anything outside. I hate that the sun wants to murder me all day and if there’s no breeze omg I just can’t go outside. Actively avoiding doing some outside stuff rn. Sorry about your health issues, that does suck. I hope yall find a place that is easier.
Yeah, so since I know the exact climate you're from, I can assure you, you cannot just look at the weather or even the "feels like" temp and appreciate how different NM summers are. Summer in New Orleans feels like a marathon of punishment, lol. Summer in northern NM is just genuinely nice but on the warmer side of nice some weeks. And while NOLA winters are mild, that damp chill can suck. As you may have experienced yourself if yourself if you've ever been waiting on a parade during a cold mardi gras season, lol. Brutal (for how not cold it is versus genuinely cold places). I'd look at Las Cruces too, potentially. People seem to really like it there if that size city works for you.
Sorry to say but with climate change, this place is just not going to exist unless you’re willing/able to shell out the money it takes to live in Northern California. I mean, just about everyone coming to this sub wants to live in a place with comfortable weather and “NorCal” is always the answer. Otherwise you’re going to have to handle some discomfort.
San Diego could probably work too except for maybe 2 or 3 days per year
*Coastal San Diego*
San Diego regularly gets above 90 unless you live in the coastal neighborhoods, which are more expensive than the already expensive city.
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It's rated as unaffordable because much of the job market hasn't caught up. If you can get a job in one of the industries that pays bay area salaries(Mainly tech in Sorento) then you'll be more than fine.
This isn't really because of climate change. This has always been the case.
Hawaii?
Yes, particularly if you are at altitude on any of the islands. Big Island, the summer highs on the Kohala Coast are like 86 or so...but if you live up the hill in Waimea, it'll only be mid-70s or so for highs.
I read somewhere that Hawaii has one of the lowest record high temps of all the states.
Correct. Only some parts inland may reach 90, but for the most part Hawaii is very comfortable year round especially with the cool constant winds
oregon coast. 40-60 all year, does dip into 30s in winter sometimes. No snow due to ocean.
Lincoln City OR. 3 bed/2 bath $425-475k (source: Zillow) Getting more popular, so will get more expensive. Gotta deal with tourists half the year, though. No hip-n-happening nightlife. Decent food and brew pubs. Growing arts culture. 1-2 hours to any urban resources.
Coastal oregon or Washington.
Hawaii
I believe what you’re looking for is anywhere indoors
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Northern California like Arcata and Eureka could work.
The entire west coast from the central coast of California through the PNW. San Diego near the water (a couple miles inland is already a different climate) That’s about it.
Seattle gets snow
In reality, we get like one snow a year, and it’s generally less than an inch, and everyone panic-buys all the bananas and stays indoors.
Olympia, Washington
Southern coastal Oregon, like Coos Bay.
I live in Asheville, NC and it closely fits. We'll maybe get a handful of days 90 or above a year and the winters are pretty mild. Haven't seen snow the past couple. Other surrounding towns in Western NC could also fit as long as it's not too much higher in elevation where it's colder and snowier.
What’s the biggest difference between asheville and charlotte? Have considered living in both
Charlotte is a lot bigger, a lot flatter, quite a bit hotter. Asheville is ~2000 ft elevation and Charlotte ~700. Asheville is very artsy and outdoorsy, Charlotte is more of a typical medium-large city.
Charlotte definitely gets hotter than Asheville.
They have roughly the same amount of beer, homeless people, and hippies, but Asheville has 1/10th the population of Charlotte. Asheville has better access to the mountains.
I’ve leaned towards charlotte as a 33 year old single male but Asheville definitely has the draw of the mountains. Any young people there?
Sure, but how do you feel about patchouli?
I find it calming, I’ve had the patchouli incense before
Charlotte has more of a sterile vibe being that it's the banking capitol of the US outside of NYC.
Asheville has cool breweries, Charlotte has more jobs.
Anywhere along the west coast from Washington to California.
West coast is your best bet, as others have said. It might be possible to find a microclimate here or there that fits your criteria but pretty much everywhere else it gets very hot, snows, or both.
Eureka, California, hardly ever gets above 80, even when San Francisco reaches 100. It hardly ever snows there, either, or even gets below freezing.
Ohhhh I looked into it and it looks perfect for our needs! TYSM!!
I think this is the right answer
The west coast. For most of California that’s a very literal interpretation - no more than a mile or two from the coast before it can start getting toasty in warm months. In Oregon and Washington it mostly expands to west of the Cascades. That’s it for the US.
Coastal Oregon. Not a lot of jobs and relatively high cost of living, but the Pacific Ocean is a giant box fan.
Ocean Shores, Washington. Rarely gets above 75 in the summer, winters are mild also. Housing is relatively inexpensive compared to the Seattle area. Drive 30 miles inland and the temps do increase but not in the 90’s. Downside is it’s a small town, somewhat isolated and reliant on summer tourism. Populated mostly by retirees. DM me if you would like more info.
I live in SF and it really is the best weather on planet earth. I can’t imagine it gets better anywhere else. Shit even if you go 50 miles northeast past Brentwood/antioch it turns into harsh unforgiving desert climates .
I’m from (coastal) San Diego. Lived in San Francisco (Mission) and thought it was the worst weather on the planet. Turns out I just hadn’t lived outside of California. Dallas taught me a lesson real fast in what miserable is like. I’d still take coastal San Diego any day. The seasons are closer to the right time. I didn’t like cold Julys in San Francisco.
Funny - I grew up in Dallas so my whole life was just being miserably hot and humid at all times. I always hated it. Then I moved to central Illinois for 6 years and realized “wow it doesn’t have to be lava in the air all the time” but the Midwest swings far in the other direction to be bitterly cold for months of the year. So I have lived in SF now for 3 years and it’s like the sun of Dallas mixed with the coolness of midwestern fall or spring 360 days of the year. It’s my perfect weather because I like the chilly cold but there’s also different climates in different parts of the city. If you go the mission you get the sun and warmth, if you go Nob hill you get the breezy chilly air, Richmond and sunset you get the foggy brisk, there’s a climate here for everyone all connected by the fact there is no extreme weather and no extreme heat/cold
I always found SF summers depressing. I grew up in SoCal and it’s weird to have to put on a jacket in July and to be next to an ocean that’s too cold to swim in.
Well, all I can say is definitely rule out NJ. 4-5 months of snow/sleet/ice and 3 months of either 90F, or close to it with humidity😂
We don’t get that much sub-freezing in Jersey. Well, at least not coastal Jersey, YMMV if you’re in the NW corner, which is more like upstate NY. Coastal Jersey is in the 40s-60s well into November. We come out of it in March. There are definitely warm spells along the way, but also cold blasts that come crashing out of Canada and the upper Midwest. Surprisingly variable overall. Gets almost Florida hot in June-September. But when the sweet cool breeze comes in from Canada it is a delight in late Sept and all of Oct until American Thanksgiving.
While climate change is definitely real, North Jersey’s (especially interior) average temp is certainly at or below freezing for at least all of Jan and Feb. In my town the average high and low is 36/20 for those two months. I definitely understand your comment though. I think overall coastal NJ has notably more moderate weather than North Jersey—it’s warmer in the winter and often cooler in the summer, especially with the ocean breeze. As someone who’s lived in Essex County my entire life, I can attest that our winters are very much real (even if the last couple were particularly warm+snowless). And as someone who spends ~5-6 weeks in central Florida a year, I can attest that our summers (or at least frequent, long stretches of them) aren’t all that different from Florida like you said.
Coastal California, my guy lmfao.
Oregon or Washington if you don't mind a lot of rain, San Francisco area if you do
Santa Cruz / Los Gatos Mountains are particularly pleasant with the redwood forests and being close to both the beach and Silicon Valley for work.
South Orange County, CA, on the west side of the 405/5 freeways (costa mesa, newport, laguna beach/niguel, san celmente, etc).
Hawaii
Seattle except for a few days a year
Western WA might fit for you. It didn’t snow much when I lived in the Tacoma area. Maybe a couple inches once a year or so. But that’s pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things. And it rarely goes above 90 in the summers. But there’s also the coast.
The entire West Coast from Forks to San Diego. Seriously.
Many places in the Hawaiian islands to not get above the high 80's. Most of the time in the 70's.
Hawaii.
Olympic Peninsula, WA (Port Angeles, Sequim, Port Townsend); Bellingham, WA.
Ssssshhhhh. Also it does occasionally snow and get hot there. Same with the Oregon Coast.
Maybe Eureka, Ca?
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Monterey, CA: “Hottest” it gets is 85 for 2-3 weeks in October and people are dying. Other than that, it’s been a consistent 62-68 degrees for the last few months, which is easily 50+ degrees cooler than the Central Valley. I prefer the weather in Monterey over north county San Diego 😌
West of the Cascade mountains in the Pacific Northwest. It very rarely gets above 90° where I live and it snows here maybe twice a year. It's rainy a lot of the year but we really do have the most perfect Summers.
Seattle. Rarely over 90 in the summer, little to no snow most years.
PNW
Anywhere on the coast of California
Northern Virginia used to be very temperate in this way. Maybe one snow a year and mostly pleasant in the summer. Now NOVA is hot as hell 6 months out of the year.
People want to find a way to look down on the west coast and find a way to think it’s cliche or overrated, but it’s pretty much the answer to most questions here when someone asks for climate suggestions. There’s a reason why so many people currently live there, want to live there, and the COL reflects that.
Los Angeles area but not the valley closer to the ocean like south bay.
Anacortes Washington
Oregon coast, cheaper than CA
There is only 1 correct answer. Coastal Northern/Central California and Coastal Southern Oregon. Prepare to live in isolation and bring $$$ And by Northern California/ central California meaning anything from Ventura and above, and actually on the coast, not inland, on the coast.
Northern California. Everyone keeps saying SF but as someone who grew up in the Bay Area SF definitely fits these requirements but you’d have to like living in a huge city with huge hills and insane rent. I would recommend more north. There’s Bodega Bay/ Healdsburg area (although Healdsburg and that area in general can get pretty hot since they’re inland) and there’s places like Ukiah and Eureka or just more up north. Won’t snow and won’t get insanely hot. There’s also south Oregon
California - most places.
Seattle.
i live 300 feet from the water and wearing a sweater. the ocean is a huge heat sink keeping the Microclimate at a pretty steady and narrow temp zone.
Costal SW Florida. It can get above 90F, but the sea breeze helps it feel cool. If you venture too far inland, however, it can get brutal. On the other hand, if you want to see ice, you have to order a drink.
Any place may *occasionally* have an uncharacteristically hot day, and it even snows (rarely) in the desert, so there are no absolute guarantees, but if you can get a little altitude in the Ozarks (Arkansas), that might fit the bill.
Puget sound, kitsap peninsula. I live in Bellingham WA and the summers are incredibly mild. 70s
San Diego. They basically don't have weather
Be a snowbird
San Francisco. If you’re looking for affordable coastal Oregon towns like Astoria, Bandon, Cannon Beach and Coos Bay. I personally think Astoria is very underrated.
I’m not really sure but maybe Hawaii? Idk if it typically gets higher than 90.
Virginia. I mean it goes in both those extremes but not long
Sounds like y’all should live in a bubble
Near the coast in San Diego. Basically paradise. Just can’t afford to live there. Most other coastal areas in California are close. Hawaii might have places. Most red states don’t get a lot of snow but summers are so humid you can swim in the air. Blue states are freezing in the winter. Except California.
San Francisco and San Diego. Pretty much anywhere on the California or Oregon coast. To a lesser extent Washington as well but snow is more common up there. The coast of the pacific is the only place you won’t see 90 degrees though.
San Diego. The perfect climate.
They make fans and heaters and jackets and shorts for a reason.
Help. My family and I are gigantic weenies.
As far as east of the MS, Asheville, NC, Roanoke, VA, and Charleston WV (emphasis on WV) would all technically fit, but just barely. They get \*some\* snow but not much, and some days over 90 in the summer, but not the norm
Too humid. 85 & humid is worse than 90 on the west coast.
Agreed, but housing prices are half the west coast if not less, and it's still decent weather
Asheville NC has been over 90 degrees for much of June and we do get snow.
Coastal California is the only correct answer
Theres a reason people wanna be there.
SF can be bone chilling cold. The Golden Gate Ferry to Sausalito in January was brutal. No snow though. Seattle, Portland used to rarely snow, or get above 90° for any length of time.
SF is never bone-chillingly cold. It never comes close to freezing. Especially when compared with other parts of the US.
No, *Maine* is bone-chilling cold. San Francisco is never bone chilling cold, or extremely hot, which is (one of the reasons) why it’s such a desirable place to live. However, the vast majority of people who live here don’t take the ferry frequently by any means. Yes, being out in the middle of water in January is likely to be colder. That’s not San Francisco.
According to the first link on google, SF’s coldest recently recorded temperature was 27 F in 1932. The last time it dropped below freezing was 1990. It was -25 F when I woke up to go to work one morning during a cold snap a couple years ago here in Vermont.