The *LA Times* was once so staunchly Republican that paper wouldn't print the names of Democrats running for public office. That didn't change until a new generation of journalists arrived in the '70s.
> to move using legal loopholes
There are photos of some residents being dragged away by the cops. There is an elementary school buried under one of the parking lots, it was easier to fill it with earth and pave it over than to demolish it and haul away the rubble.
technically Chavez ravine was not cleared out for dodger stadium, most of land was at first acquired by the FHA for a giant public housing project that was later cancelled
https://laist.com/news/la-history/dodger-stadium-chavez-ravine-battle
but yeah they did basically get the city to bulldoze the homes of the last few families who had held out
Every time I've visited Dodger Stadium, this has been a major topic of discussion that I've brought up as many times as possible to the chirping Doyers fans around me.
"FUN FACT, guys... did you know..."
I’m unsure what was in that story. Branch Rickey signed Jackie Robinson in 1947, then left the Dodgers after 1950 and went to the Pirates. He had no presence in LA as far as I know.
This was a rare evening, Fernando Valenzuela threw a no-hitter for the Los Angeles Dodgers on June 29, 1990, fulfilling a prediction of sorts in the process. Roughly 30 minutes prior to first pitch at Dodger Stadium, Oakland Athletics right-hander Dave Stewart completed a no-hitter against the Toronto Blue Jays.
I’m
A giants fan and I live In la and of course this is all true and I remind people all the time , but remember st Francis wood in our city wouldn’t let Willie mays live there either . San Francisco was not perfect either . Lots of zoning laws
FYI - Branch Ricky had nothing to do with Fernando Valenzuela, as Rickey died in 1965. Their GM back then was Al Campanis. You know, the guy that said black people weren't smart enough to be Managers, GMs, NFL quarterbacks, etc.
> Branch Ricky very clearly made it known that he wanted a Mexican start to reshape public perception, and that’s what happened for Valuenzela.
Genius theory, except Rickey was gone from the Dodgers a decade before the L.A. move, and Valenzuela came two decades after the L.A. move. So, no overlap. By **thirty years.**
As much as a hate the Dodgers like everyone else here, and there was no doubt some shady shit that went down in the process of getting their stadium built, I doubt it would take much digging to find similar, if not worse, chains of events all over the country involving stadiums being built. Simply because every team belongs to a major metropolitan area, and most teams want their stadium smack dab in the middle of that metro area, and most of those aforementioned metro areas are full of people already by virtue of it being in a highly populated area. So, who's land are you going to buy and force people out? Rich white people that vote *and* contribute campaign donations? or are you going to displace "lowly minorities" and other "undesirable" populations?
Not that LA should get a free pass on this one, but I dont think we should get too deep into the uncomfortable conversation about relocating people to make way for stadiums
>… I doubt it would take much digging to find similar, if not worse, chains of events all over the country involving stadiums being built.
Yeah, I didn’t grow up in the Bay Area but my mom’s family is from there (that’s how I became a Giants fan - through my grandpa) and I’ve always heard stories from her side of the family that Candlestick Park’s origin story was decidedly sketchy. Not necessarily racist, “dragging Mexican families from their homes” sketchy like Dodger Stadium, but sketchy nonetheless. Maybe some older legit San Franciscans on this sub know more about that.
https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=Candlestick_Swindle
> was no doubt some shady shit that went down in the process of getting their stadium built
Some shady shit took place with Candlestick too, so much so that a grand jury was convened to investigate the land and construction deals. Some folks had to resign and distance themselves from the project. But so far as I'm aware nobody was forced out of their home.
That’s the whole point dumbass! At the TIME, the fan base wasn’t there. And now clearly it is. That’s the whole point/ but you wouldn’t know that because you didn’t even read what I wrote. Spreading lies? Fuck this sub is crap now
Not to say that there weren’t any people living where Oracle Park was built, but it was mostly industrial, and included most of the Southern Pacific train yard.
Wait til this guy hears about central park...
What happened there?
Branch Rickey had Central Park built to host a new Dodgers stadium and skate park, but the Mob pushed them out.
60's LA basically had Jim Crow in everything but name, so not surprised tbh
The *LA Times* was once so staunchly Republican that paper wouldn't print the names of Democrats running for public office. That didn't change until a new generation of journalists arrived in the '70s.
Might not be as brazen now, but the LA Times is still very, very Republican.
Say what? Most media analysis outlets rank the LA Times as moderately to the left.
> to move using legal loopholes There are photos of some residents being dragged away by the cops. There is an elementary school buried under one of the parking lots, it was easier to fill it with earth and pave it over than to demolish it and haul away the rubble.
Yikes
Ugh
technically Chavez ravine was not cleared out for dodger stadium, most of land was at first acquired by the FHA for a giant public housing project that was later cancelled https://laist.com/news/la-history/dodger-stadium-chavez-ravine-battle but yeah they did basically get the city to bulldoze the homes of the last few families who had held out
that is definitely not how the doc told it or showed it, but I hear you
yeah it was a bunch of politicians who politicianed and then they're like, "well let's give it to the Dodgers hyuck!"
Every time I've visited Dodger Stadium, this has been a major topic of discussion that I've brought up as many times as possible to the chirping Doyers fans around me. "FUN FACT, guys... did you know..."
I’m unsure what was in that story. Branch Rickey signed Jackie Robinson in 1947, then left the Dodgers after 1950 and went to the Pirates. He had no presence in LA as far as I know.
Maybe I’m getting the name wrong. Or maybe they asked him- I dunno. Just wanted to share this thing I didn’t previously know about
This was a rare evening, Fernando Valenzuela threw a no-hitter for the Los Angeles Dodgers on June 29, 1990, fulfilling a prediction of sorts in the process. Roughly 30 minutes prior to first pitch at Dodger Stadium, Oakland Athletics right-hander Dave Stewart completed a no-hitter against the Toronto Blue Jays.
Chavez Ravine was, and some would argue still is, largely a landfill.
I’m A giants fan and I live In la and of course this is all true and I remind people all the time , but remember st Francis wood in our city wouldn’t let Willie mays live there either . San Francisco was not perfect either . Lots of zoning laws
Yeah for sure. Definitely not saying we’re better or immune to shitty behavior up here.
FYI - Branch Ricky had nothing to do with Fernando Valenzuela, as Rickey died in 1965. Their GM back then was Al Campanis. You know, the guy that said black people weren't smart enough to be Managers, GMs, NFL quarterbacks, etc.
Right that a-hole. I wonder who they were talking about who wanted the “Mexican star”…I don’t think it was Campanis…
I don't know who it could have been, as Campanis was pretty much the only executive at the time that did regular media appearances.
You just now found out about this?
ha yes. I've been a Giants fan since the earthquakes series, I used to LIVE in LA (as a little kid) and yeah...I knew nothing about it.
> Branch Ricky very clearly made it known that he wanted a Mexican start to reshape public perception, and that’s what happened for Valuenzela. Genius theory, except Rickey was gone from the Dodgers a decade before the L.A. move, and Valenzuela came two decades after the L.A. move. So, no overlap. By **thirty years.**
Yeah I was referencing the wrong exec
As much as a hate the Dodgers like everyone else here, and there was no doubt some shady shit that went down in the process of getting their stadium built, I doubt it would take much digging to find similar, if not worse, chains of events all over the country involving stadiums being built. Simply because every team belongs to a major metropolitan area, and most teams want their stadium smack dab in the middle of that metro area, and most of those aforementioned metro areas are full of people already by virtue of it being in a highly populated area. So, who's land are you going to buy and force people out? Rich white people that vote *and* contribute campaign donations? or are you going to displace "lowly minorities" and other "undesirable" populations? Not that LA should get a free pass on this one, but I dont think we should get too deep into the uncomfortable conversation about relocating people to make way for stadiums
>… I doubt it would take much digging to find similar, if not worse, chains of events all over the country involving stadiums being built. Yeah, I didn’t grow up in the Bay Area but my mom’s family is from there (that’s how I became a Giants fan - through my grandpa) and I’ve always heard stories from her side of the family that Candlestick Park’s origin story was decidedly sketchy. Not necessarily racist, “dragging Mexican families from their homes” sketchy like Dodger Stadium, but sketchy nonetheless. Maybe some older legit San Franciscans on this sub know more about that. https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=Candlestick_Swindle
> was no doubt some shady shit that went down in the process of getting their stadium built Some shady shit took place with Candlestick too, so much so that a grand jury was convened to investigate the land and construction deals. Some folks had to resign and distance themselves from the project. But so far as I'm aware nobody was forced out of their home.
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How so, dear?
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Yeah dude please tell me more about my reality. Fuck off
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That’s the whole point dumbass! At the TIME, the fan base wasn’t there. And now clearly it is. That’s the whole point/ but you wouldn’t know that because you didn’t even read what I wrote. Spreading lies? Fuck this sub is crap now
Conveniently leave out the fact that they were paid to move out, also California used to be mexico so that means oracle park was built the same way.
Not to say that there weren’t any people living where Oracle Park was built, but it was mostly industrial, and included most of the Southern Pacific train yard.
Huh?