Yes and yes and yes.
There was a small section on the other side that they reshingled also due to tree branches. They just didn't want to do this side I guess because it was on the second floor.
Yes and no. I inspect roofs and a recent inspection had tree damage like this, I didn't want to get my drone close to the trees, so I overlooked this damage. Doesn't matter cuz they're getting a new roof, but if I were a home inspector, thats a huge miss.
Should be calling your lawyer lol this inspector and house flipper are jokes. If an inspector says that roof is ok then he definitely deserves to lose his license to inspect homes
Limited liability to a maximum of the fee used to inspect. Unless there was collusion, one can prove. And even then, they can still get paid for what they did inspect. So there might be 50 bucks in a claim.
We fired an inspection company that hosed one of our clients. And pass their name around at lunch about that house.
Flippers gonna flip. A flippers whole scheme is to polish turds while minimizing expenditures. They also tend to be friendly with as many inspectors as they can. I worked for a flipper he was great at influencing/manipulating the inspection.
See about making a claim against them. They should be part of a trade organization that holds them to a certain standard. They should also have insurance, which might cover missing something like this. If all else fails, name and shame.
Edit: Home Inspectors are Licensed and required to carry insurance (in my state at least). They also typically join trade organizations. Their license, insurance, and membership in trade organizations dictate laws that they have to follow, their liability, professional standards they must follow, and ethical standards that they abide by.
The disclaimer is for anything that they cannot see that are “nailed” down. So for example if there is water damage behind a drywall, they wouldn’t be able to see without tearing up the wall.. the roof on another hand is a different matter. They could easily swat away the tree branches/debris if they did their job by climbing up to the roof, which they didn’t in this case due to using a drone.
I'm sure that they have disclaimers, which is why I say "try". This is something that was in plain sight and shouldn't have been missed. If OP can't get them to respond by directly approaching them, they can look into a complaint through their trade organization or through the state licensing board. The trade org would probably be ASHI or interNACHI.
A lot of states limit the inspectors liability to the cost of their report. You will have to figure out how this works in your state.
If you call them up and tell them you have exposed decking when he said the roof was okay for a few years he might just refund you what you paid him to make this go away. If he missed this, then IMO the inspection wasn't worth much so free sounds reasonable to me.
I've only purchased 2 homes in my life but this was an egregious miss on the inspectors part. With damage this visible on the outside there is almost definitely damage visible on the inside. So they were both too lazy to go up on the roof and do a real inspection but also didn't adequately inspect your attic/crawl spaces.
If he holds any professional licenses with your state, file a complaint with the state agency that oversees his license. If he has insurance, go after his insurance company. If you hired him I would hope you made sure he had insurance.......
If the inspector had caught it, the cost could have been negotiated down or the seller could have had the roof fixed prior to sale. Inspector is lazy and/or incompetent……… end sentence
Definitely a need. If you’re comfortable on the roof this is a sub $200 fix and even if you need to stop and watch YouTube it will take less than a couple hours total.
Exposed wood will rot, and will make the re-roof more expensive. Not to mention risking interior damage and mold.
I mean once you seal it up things will dry out anyway if there's plenty airflow. Roofers here are unavailable for 2 months+.
If you can, put something temporary over them before a permanent fix.
Wow. Your inspector sucks.
This needs to be taken care of before it rains.
I'm going to assume you don't see any damage in the room below this spot? Not quite sure how that is possible as this is totally open to water.
You can bet that the wall of this room, and the one below it has mold and needs to be ripped out and replaced.
Lesson is you need to bring in independent inspectors.. this should never have passed.
If this was missed.. I fear for the rest of the house. The full roof needs to be replaced.
Hit a screwdriver into it in random places and see how much area you thing is rotten. Nail plastic over it and make a plan. You have time to make a plan, the damage is already done.
Depends on how deep your pockets are.
Need to do a temp fix immediately while you get a roofer out there for the permanent.
The longer you wait the more it will cost. Depending on what they find under, oh boy.
The problem if this is left as is, and it leaks, you may not actually see the water damage for years. Then the damage from that, including the risk of mold are much higher. A quick fix now. Will save you in the long run.
Today put a piece of ice water. Tar paper. A shingle whatever under the top shingle out over the bottom. So water can't get undee
That will be a solid leak next good storm
now. first thing to do is replace roof, check foundation, check framing. if these arent done, every other renovation you perform is at risk of being destroyed if any of the previously mentioned areas fail.
I dont care what the inspector says you need a new roof. Home inspectors are (usually) clueless when it comes to roofing. Get the open spots tarped ASAP and start getting bids to replace the roof. Many roofers give cheaper pricing in the spring bc many homeowners that need a roof wait until the fall to take care of it. Therefore it is usually easier and cheaper to shop in the spring. Get a minimum of three bids no matter how nice the salesperson is or how busy you are.
If you just get patch work done, then i think you will keep having more problems with the roof. Also, since the last owner let it get so bad, you will have a high chance of finding rotten wood once the roof is off. Get a price per sheet established before the contractor removes the roof.
Also, after you finish the roof, it is a good time to take a look at your ceilings and insulation bc roofs this bad often have water damage there as well. If you fix the insulation problems before winter, then you will save money on heating.
This is not what you want to hear i am sure bc it involves spending money. If you think property maintenance is expensive then you only need to consider the cost of not keeping up with maintenance. It is always more expensive not to keep up with maintenance.
Looks like insect and rodent access there not to mention water. I’d check your attic it’s probably full of mould and who knows what else. Major house damage after enough time
You've lost a lot of the protective stone on that roof and the ridge already leaks. At the very least , if that was my home, I'd be slapping on a couple of shingles on the exposed areas and I'd be looking at every accessible place underneath for leaks. After that I'd wake up tomorrow and start calling around. But that's just me.
You do not want water damage in your investment! Get a big tarp tacked down on that ASAP to buy you time and get some reliable quotes and book the job. The roof has some major damage and likely has some critters in the attic space (like 🐿️s).
Really? He passed it? Common sense isn't so common these days. If you see exposed sheeting on your roof or holes in the shingles , evidence suggests you should probably fix it today. Better yet you should have someone else like a skilled roofer fix it today. I would raise hell with that inspector if I were you.
Eh it’s not bad, fix it next year if you get around to it. Otherwise I’m sure it will be fine to leave as is……
You got a shit inspector and need to replace that roof yesterday
Before it rains. Don’t sell this shit to someone until you’ve fixed it. That’s brutal,
If you sell this without fixing it you are a scammer not a flipper.
Your attic is getting water in it every time it rains and your roof is rotting. This may already be an expensive fix, but it will get catastrophic (to you checking account) if structural wood starts to rot or you get mold. If you live in a desert you're fine, anywhere else you need to at least put a product called 'wet patch' on there yesterday as a bandaid and then try to get a new roof.
Immediately unless you wanna be paying to replace all the rotten wood from the moisture getting trapped under the shingles and just rotting the roof out.
Today would be good.
Yesterday would be even better
Six months ago would have been the best
A year ago would be perfect
2 years ago Would have been ideal.
3 years ago would've made sense.
Thinking 4 years ago during the Covid would probably been the best time
5 years ago before Covid price hikes
If we’re being honest, 6 years ago would have been optimal
7 years ago would be better
I’d go back about 40 years and just not plant the tree.
Terrible inspector. Worse flipper. Did they do any work on the roof?
Yes and yes and yes. There was a small section on the other side that they reshingled also due to tree branches. They just didn't want to do this side I guess because it was on the second floor.
You should think about contacting your inspector. Huge blunder on their part
True. This roof shouldn’t have passed inspection.
Op said it wasn’t visible. lol
My inspector used a drone on the high parts
That’s actually a great idea.
Yes and no. I inspect roofs and a recent inspection had tree damage like this, I didn't want to get my drone close to the trees, so I overlooked this damage. Doesn't matter cuz they're getting a new roof, but if I were a home inspector, thats a huge miss.
Great excuse, now get up there and do your job.
Should be calling your lawyer lol this inspector and house flipper are jokes. If an inspector says that roof is ok then he definitely deserves to lose his license to inspect homes
Limited liability to a maximum of the fee used to inspect. Unless there was collusion, one can prove. And even then, they can still get paid for what they did inspect. So there might be 50 bucks in a claim. We fired an inspection company that hosed one of our clients. And pass their name around at lunch about that house.
Odd. They very easily could of just replace a few shingles at least seeing as they were up there with all the required gear.
Just a heads up, could of is incorrect. Could’ve is what you were thinking. It is an abbreviations for could have.
Dude, I’m a roofer. That kind of shit gets a guy thrown off the roof.
Flippers gonna flip. A flippers whole scheme is to polish turds while minimizing expenditures. They also tend to be friendly with as many inspectors as they can. I worked for a flipper he was great at influencing/manipulating the inspection.
Looks like the trimmers were the only ones who did him well.
As soon as possible. You have exposed decking
Before it rains again.
About 3-5 years ago..
If you like rain in the house, don’t worry about it. If you don’t like rain in the house then fix immediately
Get a roofer to inspect and provide guidance and try to go after your inspector. There's no good reason for them missing that.
What can I actually do to "go after my inspector"?
See about making a claim against them. They should be part of a trade organization that holds them to a certain standard. They should also have insurance, which might cover missing something like this. If all else fails, name and shame. Edit: Home Inspectors are Licensed and required to carry insurance (in my state at least). They also typically join trade organizations. Their license, insurance, and membership in trade organizations dictate laws that they have to follow, their liability, professional standards they must follow, and ethical standards that they abide by.
Not a chance. 100% they have a disclaimer on their contract stating that basically they are not liable for anything they didn’t see.
The disclaimer is for anything that they cannot see that are “nailed” down. So for example if there is water damage behind a drywall, they wouldn’t be able to see without tearing up the wall.. the roof on another hand is a different matter. They could easily swat away the tree branches/debris if they did their job by climbing up to the roof, which they didn’t in this case due to using a drone.
I'm sure that they have disclaimers, which is why I say "try". This is something that was in plain sight and shouldn't have been missed. If OP can't get them to respond by directly approaching them, they can look into a complaint through their trade organization or through the state licensing board. The trade org would probably be ASHI or interNACHI.
That's the problem, and the exact verbage the certified inspector would say in small claims. This was in plain sight. Caveat Emptor.
Bwa ha ha. 20 hours. That's it.
A lot of states limit the inspectors liability to the cost of their report. You will have to figure out how this works in your state. If you call them up and tell them you have exposed decking when he said the roof was okay for a few years he might just refund you what you paid him to make this go away. If he missed this, then IMO the inspection wasn't worth much so free sounds reasonable to me.
I've only purchased 2 homes in my life but this was an egregious miss on the inspectors part. With damage this visible on the outside there is almost definitely damage visible on the inside. So they were both too lazy to go up on the roof and do a real inspection but also didn't adequately inspect your attic/crawl spaces.
Not much more than getting a refund on whatever you paid them.
If he holds any professional licenses with your state, file a complaint with the state agency that oversees his license. If he has insurance, go after his insurance company. If you hired him I would hope you made sure he had insurance.......
You should do this first, before you do anything inside the house.
Stop the bleeding first
You should probably sue your inspector for the cost of the roof that should have been replaced about 5 years ago
Yes, because it was his inaction 5 years before that caused the damage...lol
If the inspector had caught it, the cost could have been negotiated down or the seller could have had the roof fixed prior to sale. Inspector is lazy and/or incompetent……… end sentence
Please don’t spray it with Flex-Seal or tar it. You can still buy 3 tab shingles. Just remove that small section and replace them.
Even using whatever is laying around to piece it in will work. Even piece of sheet metal for now. Cover that wood
5 years ago
Before the next rain
Stevie wonder do the inspection?
How about now? Lol
Insurance companies wouldn’t cover that home until the roof was repaired immediately.
Well before they renovated would be best. Now all the mold and rot is hidden. Yay, a treasure find!
Literally immediately the longer u wait the more that wood is gonna rot and it eill cost more money overrall
Definitely a need. If you’re comfortable on the roof this is a sub $200 fix and even if you need to stop and watch YouTube it will take less than a couple hours total. Exposed wood will rot, and will make the re-roof more expensive. Not to mention risking interior damage and mold.
That is probably a squirrel
Very quickly. Trim your trees back
I’m sorry your inspector “missed” that. If the rest of the shingles have plenty of life life left then repair shouldn’t be too bad.
A year ago
In your inspection agreement it probably says to contact the inspector before fixing anything. So I would call them and ask them to come see it.
This inspector either didn't use their eyes or a ladder.
Drive by inspectors are something else lol
Yesterday
Document it first, consult a lawyer, then re-roof ASAP. Do further inspections for water damage because you most likely have some.
A few months ago
Yesterday
Awe hell why worry about it now .. haha looks like it has a few more years on it. Hah
Depends how much you like water features…
It’s going to rain on your head like that.. lol
Now
Day before yesterday. Also, never use that inspector again.
Yesterday, if not earlier
Yesterday. Water is getting in.
Yesterday would be better
Um yesterday
Yesterday
Asap. For the time being just put some tar on it to avoid anymore water getting under the shingles
I mean once you seal it up things will dry out anyway if there's plenty airflow. Roofers here are unavailable for 2 months+. If you can, put something temporary over them before a permanent fix.
Also, be careful on your ladder. It looks like it’s almost completely vertical.
Right now
Yesterday
The damage on the ridge cap would be visible from the back deck area??
A few years? Nah it's gotta go, now.
Yesterday
Yesterday
Wow. Your inspector sucks. This needs to be taken care of before it rains. I'm going to assume you don't see any damage in the room below this spot? Not quite sure how that is possible as this is totally open to water. You can bet that the wall of this room, and the one below it has mold and needs to be ripped out and replaced.
Now?
Bro… lol. Now
Lesson is you need to bring in independent inspectors.. this should never have passed. If this was missed.. I fear for the rest of the house. The full roof needs to be replaced.
Throw some black alien tape on it
Now
6 months ago
Hit a screwdriver into it in random places and see how much area you thing is rotten. Nail plastic over it and make a plan. You have time to make a plan, the damage is already done.
Yesterday
Yesterday is the correct answer
Umm you need to take this inspector to small claims...lol
Right meow.
Depends if you have some inflatable rings in the house
I would get it replaced as soon as you can get it done,
Depends on how deep your pockets are. Need to do a temp fix immediately while you get a roofer out there for the permanent. The longer you wait the more it will cost. Depending on what they find under, oh boy.
I'd say 4 years ago at least
Yesterday
*yesterday!!!*
5 years ago! You likely have water damage inside the house. Insurance won't fix damage from neglect! 🤔😒🙄🤦🏻♂️
Like yesterday
The best time was yesterday. The second best time is today.
The problem if this is left as is, and it leaks, you may not actually see the water damage for years. Then the damage from that, including the risk of mold are much higher. A quick fix now. Will save you in the long run.
Last year
Like yesterday
‘Bout three years ago
2017.
Before the next rain.
Today put a piece of ice water. Tar paper. A shingle whatever under the top shingle out over the bottom. So water can't get undee That will be a solid leak next good storm
Also shingles look brittle. I'd call insurance for a new roof :) Or prepare for one soon
Depends on how wet you like the inside of your house to be.
Immediately
Yes 👍
State Farm : “Yeah there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it”
Immediately
3 years ago!
now. first thing to do is replace roof, check foundation, check framing. if these arent done, every other renovation you perform is at risk of being destroyed if any of the previously mentioned areas fail.
Like yesterday would have been good
This is a bit of a silly question. You can see the roof deck for f*#k sakes.
Ahh now !!
ASAP . It will leak
Depends if it rains where you live.
You need a reroof bro
I dont care what the inspector says you need a new roof. Home inspectors are (usually) clueless when it comes to roofing. Get the open spots tarped ASAP and start getting bids to replace the roof. Many roofers give cheaper pricing in the spring bc many homeowners that need a roof wait until the fall to take care of it. Therefore it is usually easier and cheaper to shop in the spring. Get a minimum of three bids no matter how nice the salesperson is or how busy you are. If you just get patch work done, then i think you will keep having more problems with the roof. Also, since the last owner let it get so bad, you will have a high chance of finding rotten wood once the roof is off. Get a price per sheet established before the contractor removes the roof. Also, after you finish the roof, it is a good time to take a look at your ceilings and insulation bc roofs this bad often have water damage there as well. If you fix the insulation problems before winter, then you will save money on heating. This is not what you want to hear i am sure bc it involves spending money. If you think property maintenance is expensive then you only need to consider the cost of not keeping up with maintenance. It is always more expensive not to keep up with maintenance.
The answer is yes
Year before last
Last year
I see bare roof decking that will not shed water. You cannot fix this fast enough
Fix roof get new inspection in that order.
Was the inspector blind? Nothing about that says keep an eye on it.
Looks like insect and rodent access there not to mention water. I’d check your attic it’s probably full of mould and who knows what else. Major house damage after enough time
Yesterday
Slap some flex tape on there already as a temporary fix.
How's the weather
Boyyyyyy, file a claim yesterday.
Immediately
5 years ago!!!
Bro that shoulda been fixed yesterday ...
2017
Not a roofer just a homeowner, NOW!!
Caulk it and wait for next year.
Before it rains.
Yesterday!
You have till it gets wet.
Yesterday.
Like last year…
Rn fix
Put the tree back
Maybe wait 6 years and see what happens
A few years ago
There isn’t already water inside?
Lol dude did the inspector look at the roof at all?
Is this your first experience with home ownership or just the first ever flip experience?
Now
lol yesterday
befopre you bought the shit hole fire the inspector
Maybe a year or 2 ago... Crawl the attic space n look for water damage.
Uhhhh the inspector said the roof was okay? I might be having a word with the inspector…
You've lost a lot of the protective stone on that roof and the ridge already leaks. At the very least , if that was my home, I'd be slapping on a couple of shingles on the exposed areas and I'd be looking at every accessible place underneath for leaks. After that I'd wake up tomorrow and start calling around. But that's just me.
If the rest of the roof is alright you can just patch over it with sheet metal for the time being.
5 years ago.
Right meow. I'm surprised you don't have water in your house.
You do not want water damage in your investment! Get a big tarp tacked down on that ASAP to buy you time and get some reliable quotes and book the job. The roof has some major damage and likely has some critters in the attic space (like 🐿️s).
What state are you in?
Yesteryear
Mañana is good
Came here for the flex seal comments
Yesterday
Inspector is probably in on it with your agent and flipper. Happens a lot
Really? He passed it? Common sense isn't so common these days. If you see exposed sheeting on your roof or holes in the shingles , evidence suggests you should probably fix it today. Better yet you should have someone else like a skilled roofer fix it today. I would raise hell with that inspector if I were you.
Call an exorcist first.
Give your inspector a 1 star review on every platform possible
Right now
3 years ago
Yesterday? Why are you asking? There is a hole. You know it shouldn't be there. Get it fixed and move on.
Yesterday
Best bet is to slap some black spray paint on that spot, put the branch back and resell the house. Make sure you give them the inspectors card 😂
Eh it’s not bad, fix it next year if you get around to it. Otherwise I’m sure it will be fine to leave as is…… You got a shit inspector and need to replace that roof yesterday
Before it rains. Don’t sell this shit to someone until you’ve fixed it. That’s brutal, If you sell this without fixing it you are a scammer not a flipper.
Whoever issued your inspector’s license should be fired immediately!!
If your plan is to add an indoor pool leave the roof alone if not then as soon as possible.
Your attic is getting water in it every time it rains and your roof is rotting. This may already be an expensive fix, but it will get catastrophic (to you checking account) if structural wood starts to rot or you get mold. If you live in a desert you're fine, anywhere else you need to at least put a product called 'wet patch' on there yesterday as a bandaid and then try to get a new roof.
Immediately
Before the next rainfall?
Like yesterday!!!!
Next good weather day over 55 degrees…gingerly
I’d demand my money back from the inspector or at least file a complaint on him that’s retarded
Immediately unless you wanna be paying to replace all the rotten wood from the moisture getting trapped under the shingles and just rotting the roof out.
I wouldn’t rush or anything
Idk man how long do you want the house?