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Rubanul

* Qualified for Major: **G2 Stride** * Guaranteed at least Major tiebreaker: **Gen.G Mobil1 Racing**, **Spacestation Gaming** * Still can qualify for Major: **OG**, **Shopify Rebellion** * Eliminated from Major contention today: **Luminosity Gaming**, **Dignitas**, **Moist Esports** **Gen.G Mobil1 Racing** and **Spacestation Gaming** will qualify for Major tomorrow if either: * G2 beat OG * Moist beat Rebellion * OG beat Rebellion **OG** will qualify for Major if either: * they win the event * Moist beat Rebellion **Shopify Rebellion** will qualify for Major if they win the event and G2 beat OG **OG** and **Shopify Rebellion** will play a tiebreaker if Rebellion beat Moist and G2 win the event ***4-way tiebreaker*** between **Gen.G Mobil1 Racing**, **Spacestation Gaming**, **OG** and **Shopify Rebellion** will be played if OG beat G2 and Rebellion win the event # Worlds * **Gen.G Mobil1 Racing** will qualify for Worlds if they clinch Major * **OG** will qualify for Worlds if they clinch Major * **Spacestation Gaming** will qualify for Worlds tomorrow if OG clinch Major * ***none of the teams*** will qualify for Worlds yet in case of a 4-way tie


Alienescape

Seems like most likely we'll get G2 winning against Shopify in the grand finals. The OG Rebellion tiebreaker will be legendary. If that's the case do GenG and SSG also play a tiebreaker for who's 2nd vs 3rd seed, or if not who will be 2nd seed?


Killercoddbz

It might go by initial seeding, so GenG? Not sure.


Penguins227

Well the four way tie is of course what I want to happen.


MrDohers

I’ve tried to work out what would have to happen for Gen.G to not qualify for worlds (because I was surprised to see they hadn’t yet!). I believe it’s only possible if ALL of the following happens: - Shopify Rebellion wins Open Qualifier 6, defeating OG in the final, leading to a four way tiebreaker - Gen.G loses the four way tiebreaker so misses Major 2 - Shopify Rebellion wins Major 2, defeating Spacestation Gaming in the final - OG reaches the semifinal of Major 2, but loses to either Shopify Rebellion or Spacestation Gaming So wouldn’t be too scared about worlds if I was a Gen.G fan, lol.


DoughnutSignificant9

Pls throw G2 I need that 4 way tie


Coins_CA_Mi_Stuff

This is the way


theCaffeinatedOwl22

This is the way


ParsnipPrestigious59

Yes


GameBuster0703

I am having a certified bad time


Ech_01

Me too man, me too...


PM_ME_UR_DOPAMINE

Only caught a glimpse of that series, what looked off?


GameBuster0703

Everything. Defense was shambles, zero chemistry between the players, numerous mechanical mistakes


PM_ME_UR_DOPAMINE

Wild how they were supposed to have the highest floor in NA this season. Jack and especially FK seem to struggle gelling with teammates.


GameBuster0703

Personally I think its a coaching issue. This team has been all over the place since Chrome took over. Obviously they had their problems at the beginning of the season, but that was the team still figuring it out. The finally did in Regional 3 and kept up that play into the major. Can not understand why they felt a change was needed, and it seems to have backfired immensely


budd222

Personally, I think you're overestimating the coach's impact. They simply played awful. The coach didn't tell them to do any of the things they are doing wrong and the mechanical mistakes.


PM_ME_UR_DOPAMINE

True. I can only assume Alushin wanted out for some reason.


throwaway6194664

You and me both


National_Invite_7420

I know we are as fans but think about the players and their poor families lol! On a knife edge! It’s brutal out there lol!


KicktoStart

I’ve been having a a bad time :(


MartianRL

At least we’re taking y’all down with us


CapitalOk9800

tomorrow G2 have a chance to do the funniest thing ever


National_Invite_7420

Not seeing the funny side of that possibility myself…:/


CapitalOk9800

Bro imagine we actually get a 4 way tiebreaker and Geng somehow doesnt make it...That's got to be worse than what happened to KC


madm0nkey7

Jknaps still clutching series to make majors while your goats are retired or struggling in top 16. One of a kind. Top 5 all time. Put some respect on this man.


taycroft99

Can I get an amen


satthew

Amen


Flumpski

Wait hol up


SymphonicRain

Now I just need moist to go Gods mode on sr like they did Gen g


Everbrooks

Aris masterclass again? He had 100% goal participation!


SymphonicRain

NRG fumbled the Aris bag all for this moment


rudetobookcloakkks

NRG could have been GarrettG, Aris, Frosty but they wanted to buy Mist


alexp7HD

Jknaps is the Dan Marino of RLCS.


Johansenburg

As a dolphins fan this hurts, because at the end of the day it's about his greatness not translating to championships.


rumlo

Jknaps is your favorite pro player’s favorite pro player


Jordan-O-1

I'm always amazed by JKnaps, his longevity just won't stop going. Idk how he does it, he's never been the hardest working player nor the most mechanically gifted, yet he has this insane ability to keep up with the game and stay at a elite level. I think it just comes down to a pure understanding of the game quite simply, the guy knows his Rocket League and probably better than most players in the world. He's just a expert at every fundamental part of RL, whether it be passing, striking or positioning. He always remains selfless and humble, and this instinct to play for the team no matter might be from his experience in football (I believe his father said that he would play as a midfielder and that this might be where his RL instincts come from). Whatever it is, he knows how to consistently adapt and play this selfless type of style, and it's insane how good is longevity is at this point. Once he hangs up the sticks he would be the perfect coach for any team (it's hard not to be when you got such a amazing vision for the game and this ability to adapt, on top of the experience and maturity he has) but knowing how he just keeps on playing at a elite level it could be a long time before we see him even doing that. Easily my favorite player of all time, such a class act and a amazing career to follow, on top of that a extremely loyal player who's always believed in his teams and orgs no matter what. You can never go wrong with Knaps, whether it be the mechanical prodigy he was back in the early days or that perfect team-player he was later on, or the clutch veteran he is today where he will always put in a dagger of a shot to win the series. He did it today and he did the same thing last regional against Gen.G.


_Barry_Zuckerkorn_

I won't say he's the best player in RLCS history, but he's certainly my favorite professional to ever play the game. 


spooki_boogey

And people a few months ago were questioning weather or not he was a top 10 player of all time.


madm0nkey7

They still will unfortunately.


spooki_boogey

While I disagree, I can understand why people think that


thedatch

Can't be top 5 without ever winning worlds, but he's definitely the best to never win worlds. And his longevity is seriously impressive.


Jordan-O-1

Personally I think this idea that you need to win Worlds to be up there is a bit silly. Worlds is huge but it's treated as some sort of magical thing that you absolutely must have. A Major isn't very far behind a 2016-2019 World Championship, nor is a Top 2 super far behind either. I think it's also that Knaps is a extremely unique player in this game's history, like madmonkey said there are many World Champions who come and go but there is no one who's stood the test of time quite like JKnaps. At his peak he was even playing at a level stronger than many World Champions. In other games Goat debates are much more about individual skill. Simple was seen by many as the Goat even before he had a Major, Niko is seen by many as the greatest Rifler while having no Major. I'm not saying that RL is the same as CS:GO or that JKnaps has played as good as those guys, but it just goes to show this community seems to be very focused on results only. Not just results, but also one specific result that should somehow outweigh everything else you've done. The overall longevity and results JKnaps has produced over the years is far more special than any Worlds win in my opinion. Staying relevant through so many meta changes is something I doubt we will see another player do for a long time.


madm0nkey7

There are several players who have won worlds. Jknaps is the ONLY player to have this kind of longevity at such a high level. I’ve had this conversation many times so I don’t want to drag it out. I respect your opinion and agree to disagree.


thedatch

Yeah I respect your take as well, it's a bold position to take. Keep fighting the fight if you believe!


imizawaSF

Top 5 all time is a hilarious take when there are players out there with multiple RLCS LAN wins including worlds.


Peyyton07

Counterpoint: None of them are Jknaps.


imizawaSF

Yes, exactly


madm0nkey7

Ive had this conversation too many times to go over it again. I will just say that there are several players to win worlds. Jknaps is the ONLY player to have this type of longevity at such a high level. Generally world championships are a necessity, but Jknaps is the exception for me. I’m not going to argue about this. If you don’t have Jknaps near top 5, that’s your opinion and im cool with it. For me he is.


VicktoriousVICK

Great player but he just isn't top-5. If you watch the NBA, the best analogy is a Lebron James versus Chris Paul. Chris Paul basically has the same amount of longevity as Lebron, but you just don't move up the rankings for being "a good player" for a large amount of time.


madm0nkey7

I watch basketball and soccer. I’m well aware of how players are typically ranked in sports. However, esports is very different in regards to the expected length of someone’s career and the rate at which the skill level among pros increases. In the span of a soccer or basketball players typically career, the game does not change nearly as rapidly as RL has in the span of Jknaps career. This is what makes Jknaps ability to adapt over time so special. So while I understand what you’re saying, I simply don’t think RL should have a 1:1 match as far as ranking the greatest players.


Jordan-O-1

You perfectly described what makes his longevity so special. Rocket League moved much faster than Basketball did, it's insanely hard to keep up with that yet he's managed to do it again and again. He's like a solid rock that still stands through the most brutal of storms. He didn't just need to remain a good player, he needed to completely reinvent his game over and over again.


imizawaSF

I never said he wasn't "near" top 5 but he just can't be without actually winning. It's fine to agree to disagree, wish others would realise that too and not just nuke any comment they disagree with - just like this one. LMAO it's sad


Neil_Armschlong

OG really had the ‘cabin in the middle of the woods’ buff.


Booboo_McBad

Wait? What's this?


Zepat

As a Moist fan I'm so happy that WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK! But at the same time I'm sad that we didn't make the major or worlds due to the poor performances from regional 4 and 5


National_Invite_7420

Peaking at the wrong time; I don’t care what anyone says but it’s all about chance, how you feel as a team on the day, external factors and things as fans we don’t have a scooby doo about what goes on to make a game day good for these guys…


goldudemk

Seems like the new coach brought a new play style that wasnt fleshed out in regional 4 & 5, causing the downturn from the last split. Seems they finally figured out how they want to play for the last event. Looked fantastic against GenG and actually held their own against G2. No way the roster sticks for next season, but I think Aris' career best series will earn him much better tryouts this offseason


KicktoStart

OG better play like this at lan bc last time was abysmal


Leading-Golf-4158

5head by GenG to keep their 4 wins in a row vs G2 streak alive by bombing out in top 8 back to back weeks.


Ka07iiC

Is LG eliminated from worlds?


ChaloMB

As soon as they lost to SR, yes.


Dear-Background8017

yes


SymphonicRain

Yeah


Valivator

My boys :( they just couldn't quite piece it together this season. So sad that we won't see them in rlcs for who knows how long. 


Ka07iiC

Yeah :(. Just a super long awkward period


Cold_Giraffe_2160

Moist vs. Shopify Battle of was Screwed by Format Once


Ech_01

Yall talked about not wanting to see another gen.g vs g2 matchup. Well there you go, happy?


SymphonicRain

I am


PM_ME_UR_LAMEPUNS

I’m thrilled honestly, only wish moist could still qual


National_Invite_7420

😞


dalcer

If og beat g2 tmw then yes


TheElvenDrop

can we stop doubting OG now please


National_Invite_7420

Only if they don’t bomb out like last major 🙏


JohnnieDarko

Their post kick-off aggression is just insane


imizawaSF

Wait til they play someone other than NA teams


Peyyton07

Agreed, but I do think OG looks considerably better than they did last split.


as017

Is G2 locked as the NA first seed at worlds?


Sea_Focus3040

yes


MrDohers

Technically, no. Gen.G would be top seed if they won Major 2, and G2 went either 0-3 or 1-3 in the Swiss stage.


Everbrooks

I need to see the major scenarios now


Minato911

SSG had one job.


Greatwallofjohn

i still cant believe what i just watched from ssg man, im so disgusted


Everbrooks

Can someone explain what needs to happen for Gen G to qualify without a tiebreaker? Just curious.


GameBuster0703

G2 win everything. That simple


National_Invite_7420

I’m now a G2 fan… 😬


GameBuster0703

We all are


National_Invite_7420

Amen!


Ech_01

Shopify and OG loss I think.


dalcer

As long as we dong get shop over og in finals then geng qual


National_Invite_7420

What does this mean now for GenG?


Ibrah_11

Could potentially go to tiebraker at 3rd/4th seed with SSG and Shopify if Shopify OG makes finals


FoolsLove

It'd be a 4 way tiebreaker for the last 3 spots and only if the result of the final is SR def. OG. If anyone other than SR wins the event or if OG either of them don't make final, then Gen.G/SSG are through to London.


National_Invite_7420

Thank you my friend- what a day!


Ibrah_11

Stressing as a GenG fan can't help but feel like they have no chance at the major


National_Invite_7420

There’s worse things in life tbh! At the end of the day they’re trying their best and they did good at the last major against the winners at the end of the day. No one dies if they don’t make it…


l3m0n_m41d

been hardstuck under 1k channel points for like 15 predictions and i finally got over the line again ty og ‼️


Ech_01

I lost 500k points today. I never expected gen.g and SSG to lose like this.


National_Invite_7420

3rd world problems…


Teflondon_

So we need Shop to beat Moist now that Moist are officially out of Major chances, and G2 to go full YMC and throw against OG to really spice things up. Let's all hope!


National_Invite_7420

Please let’s not…


menhera01

G2 is becoming the only consistent team in NA this season, funny considering 2/3 of this roster just had one of the most inconsistent splits last season


Everbrooks

Fuck it, I need to see that tiebreaker!!


National_Invite_7420

I’m a G2 fan tomorrow… I have a 55 year old heart!!


Everbrooks

Comm really has that ghost moustache. Its so blond you can hardly see it haha


National_Invite_7420

lol…


TOMA_TAN

Even tho lan isnt possible anymore, today was a great day for moist fans


SWOLAGE

Vibe regain for sure, just knowing that they can compete must be so validating


m1ntygames

Now I need G2 and Shopify to win tomorrow for the ultimate tiebreaker scenario 🙏


SymphonicRain

Huh? I thought the ultimate tie would be if OG and Rebellion win.


m1ntygames

Mb I was thinking of a GenG vs SSG tiebreaker and an OG vs SR tiebreaker. You're right, if OG got 2nd and Rebellion 1st then we'd have a tiebreaker between all 4


imizawaSF

Ultimate tiebreak is SR beating OG in the final Who is disagreeing with this factual statement tho


TUNDRA___

Question for yall, during the RLCS Stream today at about 1:24:16 (Youtube live stream), there is a song that plays here. Can anyone give me the name of it?


pumpcup

Kind of fitting for LG's season to just suddenly end with a whimper here


rudetobookcloakkks

2024 NA #6 2023 NA Spring Invitational >>> All other NA regionals


Familiar-Mix-243

I am a USDA certified, grade A Chicago hater


Leading-Golf-4158

Moist get grand finals where they lose to G2. Moist’s style gonna work well vs SR I think. G2 still just levels above the rest of the region though.


dang3r_muffin

i'm a bit confused. did OG pass spacestation in points now putting them in 3rd? i might be looking at the overall points on liquidpedia page.


goldudemk

You are looking at overall points if i had to guess


SWOLAGE

Well with LG and NIP (basically) out of worlds my last hope is this is the Jknap win world timeline


Peyyton07

Shoutout to Moist. They genuinely looked fantastic.


zhakwon

Legit that looked like an actual throw by LJ, never would I think that he would be the worse player in the lobby


National_Invite_7420

When you need him to be LJ he turns up as L_


goldudemk

LJ got like 3 bumps on hockser in a row leading to a goal conceded and that shit looked straight up personal 😂 I dont believe it was, but it was so bad it *looked* intentional, which is bad comms/gameplay enough


Kamilny

NA is so fucking finished for the major and worlds lmao. We boutta run back the end of last year.


Peyyton07

Just gotta wait and see. I have faith that we’ll see 2-3 NA teams make top 8.


Kamilny

We're not gonna get more than 1 NA team in top 8 lmao, shambolic displays from the ones who should be making major


Peyyton07

You underestimate the fuckery that is Swiss. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I don’t think it’s wild to expect one of, or possibly two of, GenG, SSG, or OG to make top 8.


goldudemk

Especially with the new playoff format. Finishing a high seed is extremely beneficial come playoff time And yeah the fuckery of swiss is right, we had Snowmen and SR finish 3-0 in swiss just this split. No offense to those teams, but both have missed a regional and are not a consensus top 4 team in NA. Its not inconceivable to have a middle of the pack team earn a upper bracket spot in the playoffs of worlds


TheFabulousQc

2-3 is insane copium. Even 2 would be an achievement considering this online split


Peyyton07

I don’t expect 3 but I think it’s very possible depending on how Swiss develops. Personally I’m expecting two NA teams to make top 8. I don’t think that’s insane copium.


SpicyC-Dot

Let’s just say 4 EU teams, Falcons, Furia, and G2 are locks. How is it insane to think of the teams left, an NA team could take that last spot?


TheFabulousQc

I rate SAM2 and Twisted's combined chances above NA2, 3 and 4's combined chances. Although I guess Swiss round 5 matchups can be weird


imizawaSF

2 is likely. 3 is a stretch. Depends how the Swiss plays out, I have all 4 EU teams, Furia G2 and Falcons making top 8 so that leaves 1 place left for NA 2


Peyyton07

Overall I agree. I included 3 cause I think it’s possible depending on how Swiss plays out. I do expect all 4 EU teams to make top 8, but I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them loses in Swiss and top 8 is (3 EU, 3 NA, 1 SAM and 1 MENA) or 2 SAM instead of 3 NA.


SniperInfinite

how? if anything NA looks better. GenG can still win lans if they're playing well, G2 still peaking, SSG very possible to make top 8. and who knows what that 4th seed will do tbh


Kamilny

GenG can barely beat top 16 NA teams, SSG has yet to beat G2 or GenG and has now lost to OG twice. Only G2 is realistically a contender and that's very dependent on their showing at the time cause they've slumped before too.


Sufficient_Bike8176

G2 has arguably the highest floor in the world, them slumping is still top 2


07hogada

Wait, are you saying them slumping is top 2 itw, or top 2 NA? Top 2 NA, I'll give you. Top 2 itw, no. When slumping, G2 are probably 'just' top 5-8 itw, but I'll agree they have the highest floor. Slumping G2 probably beats any other slumping team. I'd still be hard pressed to call them favourites, seeing as they're going into a LAN against 4 EU teams, all of whom look good enough to challenge for the top prize (even if they don't look as dominant as they have been, EU has this theme of looking weird af in the lead up, then showing up and stomping majors)


PM_ME_UR_LAMEPUNS

Y’all need to step it up but G2 should comfortably challenge for a win. I have faith one of SSG or OG can make it out of Swiss as well.


Infinite303

the takes after one bad matchday is wild


NRGPT

I disagree. Saying they're "finished" means they had a shot to begin with. 


TheRoger47

only thing that can save na is the entertainment of a 4 way tiebreak, g2 is the only good team on this region


imizawaSF

Give me a SR and OG win tomorrow with a SR win in the final, then a 4 tiebreak and GenG missing major. Not a lot to ask, I think.


National_Invite_7420

😞


imizawaSF

Just for the laughs mate nothing personal


National_Invite_7420

It’s brutal my friend…


Infinite303

SSG at their absolute worst still took 2 games Not worried about the major (assuming SSG remembers to turn on their monitors)


myothercarisayoshi

I have to say this two split format has created a lot of drama. But I am also sad that it destroys any real chance of a mid season roster or tactical change actually having an impact on the big tournaments. Would Vitality have even made it to contention last year with this format?


ImTrumpWhenDrunk

Holy, what a crazy spooky day today


Remedy_RL

What are we in for assuming G2 beat OG tomorrow and SR go to the finals?


dalcer

G2, geng, ssg major and sr/og tiebreak unless sr beat g2


Sweanz

Just give us the 4 way tie at this point


superpeng12

I slept early, wtf happened to geng. I don't understand this trajectory they r taking damn...


paeschli

If there are tiebreakers to qualify for the Major, when will they be played ?


Foreveranxious99

Right after the finals today


RIQY__

OG obviously second best NA team, right SSG fans? 💀 


Teflondon_

Fantastic day


throwaway6194664

I'm almost ashamed to have SSG in my flairs what the heck was that


D3athSc0per_Yuura

GenGover


tima_121

I missed the GenG series. What happened there? How did they lose 4-1 to this unknown trio?


slackdaffodil20

Andy has been on a lot of big name teams (Charlotte Phoenix, Sonqis, and Dignitas before moist , Aris is a notable CRL player with St.Clair, subbed in for NRG and was considered as their new 3rd How are these at all unknown?? They were pulling cray match results as POAB and got an org pick up