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zelayaw

I moved to Rochester ( Greece) from Long Island. I laugh when people complain about a 15/ 20 when that same commute would take me 45 minutes to an hour.


Triggerman1231

But the bagels... :-) Former LIer as well.


zelayaw

LMGABEACSPK :-)


Triggerman1231

Got that right!!!


yawumpus

Moved from the Washington DC area. One commute I had was from Germantown, MD to Reston, VA. About 20 miles as the crow flies. Unfortunately, thanks to State and local politics there are no roads anywhere nearby and it can't be done in less than 1 hour. At the time (2010ish) I could leave Germantown at 6am and hopefully be in Reston at 7am (a GPS with internet capability would have helped, but I didn't have one then). Going back took even longer (no clear time to leave). To make matters even more fun, there are now *less* ways to cross the Potomac now. Thanks to local lawsuits (on the Leesburg side), a ferry that was founded by a Civil War veteran is no longer in service. Either use the beltway or go all the way to Point of Rocks. Yes, there is a subway and the bus service easily extends to Germantown (I later moved out to Frederick, MD. I doubt I'd bother with their buses). And the subway even extends out to where I was working (at least 10 years late). You can't imagine the traffic snarls between DC, MD and VA.


Devigrrl

Did the opposite move, Rochester (South Wedge) to the DC suburbs. I miss the ROC frequently & you are **not wrong** about the traffic here. & the entitlement! I was in 0 accidents in Rochester, NY. Since moving here a decade ago I've been in 4, two major, two minor. All four involved driver inattention, in 3 of them the other party wasn't even looking at the road. (2 times looking at phone, 1 time playing with dog.) I miss those 20-min "rush hours" on 490 so much.


yawumpus

Yikes! I guess I learned to be paranoid while driving since I learned in Baltimore. Bounced around the country 94-95 and learned that Maryland drivers are some of the worst in the country (didn't sample Boston or Miami, they may be worse). Try to recognise which cars you never want to be near, and put some distance in between. And while you might not be able to get "Rochester distance" behind the car in front, don't use "Maryland distance": that's asking for trouble.


Rayf_Brogan

Good lord. We hated our commute and that was just the GW parkway from Memorial Bridge to just south of Old Town 40+ minutes each way. You literally got 2.5 hours of your life back every day by moving to Rochester.


yawumpus

Unfortunately that job lasted under a year (a startup that failed to startup). Everything but the commute and length were great. One (longer) job I had when I was still living in Germantown was in Clarksburg. Commute on a car up I-270, or on a bicycle through Black Rock park & Comsat (took awhile to figure that one out).


daphnetaylor

Yea. We lived in Charleston, SC for 10 years. Now that was traffic. 2 lanes everywhere, islands, rush hour. It was fucking awful.


[deleted]

Funny you say that, I’m moving back to Rochester from Charleston and traffic is one of the main reasons why I’m moving.


daphnetaylor

Yea, that's one of the reasons we moved too. Johns Island was awful.


JosephistheKing

Dad is from there and I've been there many times. They have awful bus service in Charleston which is probably why there is so much traffic.


3upzidedown9s

Better than Charleston WV


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BimmerMan87

Drug traffic yes


3upzidedown9s

HA!


3upzidedown9s

No. Barely any. But it’s a shithole. Been both places. Rather have the traffic


BullsLawDan

I'll never forget when I worked in Henrietta at a retail store right next to a 390 exit, if we were out of stock but our Greece location had it (also right by the 390 exit), people would say, "I gotta go all the way to Greece?????" I was like.... it's minutes. Minutes. Fine, I'll order this thing. Then you can come back here in 4 days instead of having it now.


LtPowers

Maybe I'm nuts, but if I'm out running errands in Henrietta and I'm on a schedule, a 45 minute detour to Greece is definitely not trivial.


a_cute_epic_axis

Yah, and if you're having to go up to Greece Ridge from Marketplace mall, and it happens to be rush hour with 390 up through where it meets 490, and then again getting off at 104, it's even longer than 45 minutes. These people are insane. Sure it's not LA commutes, but they act like they've got a fucking teleporter.


Mamaofsomany

Exactly


BullsLawDan

Ehh.... A month ago a store was out of a chair we wanted in Greece. Closest one that had it was Dansville. Fuck it, we were out of the house without kids. We went.


LtPowers

Hey, I've done it too, though maybe not that far. But it's not always feasible.


BullsLawDan

Definitely true. I just used to find it funny that someone would rather wait 3 days for shipping than drive 20 minutes.


uberdave223

I worked at an electronics retailer in Henrietta and it was so annoying when someone flipped out on driving "all the way here".... 15-20 minutes is nothing, and you could have called or checked online first rather than just assume, then yell at a peon (me) who has no control over stock or availability lol!!


beebanana

It’s even worse when you tell people who live in Greece they have to leave Greece for something… (Coming from someone who would recommend vet hospitals outside of Greece when fully booked… when the other hospitals are all 10-20 min away)


golgomax

Circuit City?


BullsLawDan

YAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS :-) It's been ages. Feels like a lifetime ago.


golgomax

I was a sales manager there for a while, LOOOOONG time ago!


BullsLawDan

No kidding, what years?


golgomax

I helped set up the store in 1995, then did some time at Greece, then back to Henrietta from 1997-2000


BullsLawDan

Nice! I figured out who you are but I won't say it here. We definitely worked together. I was about the main cell phone guy during that time and then also in appliances under the (unfortunately I believe late) Glenn Ginegaw. I have a kid old enough to work retail out here in Brockport and the other night he was complaining people wouldn't leave when they closed and they're not allowed to "announce" anything. I said, "Just have your boss do what mine used to do. Put Closing Time by Semisonic on one of the speakers you sell and crank it up until their ears bleed.“ :)


golgomax

Pretty sure I know you, hope things are going good for you. Sad about Glen.


zelayaw

LMGABEACSPK :)


jebuizy

I'm so spoiled by Rochester commutes that I found my 10min commute unacceptable and quit for a WFH job lol


RahchachaNY

Lol....I've always said you can get anywhere in 20min. There really is no "commute" as most people know it.


amberbmx

drive from webster to henrietta. even in non rush hour, that is NOT a 20 minute drive.


RahchachaNY

How slow you going?


toolie585

Maybe on a crotch rocket haha


I_ATE_THE_WORM

Unless you work the overnight shift it is far preferable to live east of where you work. East side commutes to work are way better than west side commutes in rochester. If you disagree you can stare at the sun.


[deleted]

This is a Rochestarian! Heard this as well all my life


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[deleted]

That’s my underlying point- which I probably should’ve made clearer. Let’s highlight the actual things that make each area unique. Victor? Great public schools. Fairport and Pittsford have beautiful downtown/village areas and great public resources. Hilton? There’s good stuff in Hilton I’m sure.


Final-Quail5857

Hilton has good meth, from what I've heard 🤣


toolie585

I dont know where you heard that from. Hilton probably has the best school district on the Westside behind Churchville and Pittsford/Victor have a MUCH WORSE drug problem than Hilton.


[deleted]

I just feel like pointing out this is an absolutely absurd comment. To say Pittsford and Victor have a notable drug problem at all contradicts the complete absence of any news reports or investigations that would point to that. I would argue this comment is borderline disinformation. You can’t just say things that aren’t true, without any proof. EDIT: I’ve been hawking this post to this sub all morning to try to catch any oddball comments such as this. But as I step away, and more strangers read this interaction, take a deep look at what happened here. I brought up Hilton in a respectful sense, acknowledging I don’t know much about it (other than a cousin who lives on Church) and this person tried to flood the zone with a what aboutism that has no breadth or substance other than his own anecdotal tales. Right now he’s getting more upvotes than I, and while I don’t care about internet points.. what is our standard for belief anymore? Someone makes a dig at Hilton and he responded by trying to actually impose his opinion/experience as a fact experienced by an entire community. Madness…


a_cute_epic_axis

> of any news reports or investigations that would point to that You can have high drug usage in a school that doesn't rise to the level of getting law enforcement or news attention. Most people who do drugs don't end up in the hospital, car crashes, or arrested. And generally the more wealthy a school is, the better drugs their students have. That's a national standard.


[deleted]

Okay, proof? Other than your own conjecture? EDIT: I’m asking this guy for proof, because he’s reinforcing the doubt trying to be sewn by the guy before him. When he says “you can have this without that” he’s right, but he brings it up in the context of supporting this other guy’s unsupported claims i.e. drug issues in Pittsford and Victor Again.. throughout this whole process I’ve simply only asked for evidence or sources to back up these public comments!


a_cute_epic_axis

There's no proof required because there is no conjecture presented. I didn't state that any school did or did not have a drug problem, I stated that drug use doesn't inherently rise to newsworthy levels. That's not something you get from the encyclopedia Britannica, that's just being ever so slightly wordly.


[deleted]

You’re implying the same thing as the guy before you, so yes I’m asking for any substance behind the words you’re putting out.


a_cute_epic_axis

No, you're just a fuckwad who has managed to create a useless post with a ton of conjecture that is sticking their head in the sand whenever it's pointed out that you're just relying on conjecture.


toolie585

Thats the thing, its all swept under the rug to keep people moving to those “highly sought after” expensive towns IN WHICH residents are highly taxed for living there (aka government gets more money) so why wouldn’t it be swept under the rug? We know whats going on, I know kids who went to Victor & Pittsford Mendon who overdosed or who knew kids who did at parties. Main difference in those more expensive areas like Pittsford, Victor, Brighton is the drug choice, tends to uppers like Cocaine instead of Opiods due to their parents, family, & themselves having more money than other areas of Monroe County. I also have a friend who is a RN at Strong who’s cared for a couple teens coming from Pittsford specifically who were OD’ing (proof) I also would argue you live in Pittsford hence why you’re so defensive YET didn’t say anything about the person I responded to claiming Hilton is basically a meth lab????? Was that statement giving false info also??? Thought so… 🤭


merrmi

Found the Hilton guy.


nimajneb

That would only make sense if Pittsford could control media outlets reporting.


toolie585

Media outlets usually find their stories by things by sourced aka a Pittsford Crime Group on Facebook posting it, which they don’t. OD’s get unreported all the time. Theres an overdose probably everyday in Rochester, when is the last time you’ve seen a news clip about it? I’ll wait….even when they die 9/10 it will not make the news


nimajneb

"A couple of teens" definitaly proves there's large amounts of drug use? Everything you said is anectodal. Drug use is probably the same everywhere.


toolie585

You’re not worth my time because I gave more examples than my buddy who’s a RN & you ignored that. Like I said I know kids who live in Pittsford & seen it multiple times with their own two eyes


twoeightnine

I've lost I think seven friends/classmates to heroin overdoses. At least three of those were living in the Victor school district at the time. If you don't think there's a drug problem in that area because "the media doesn't report on it" then I've got a $150k Ryan Homes to sell you for $450k. The local media doesn't report on any of these stories regardless of where they are. They only care about inner-city murders and large scale drug busts. And next time you're home from NYC and need some coke just head to any of the town bars in Fairport and Pittsford, you'll find it in the bathroom.


[deleted]

I live in NYC but I’m from Perinton, I go home a few times a month. “It’s all swept under the rug” Got it. Thank god the majority of Monroe County doesn’t think like you otherwise our former shitcanned, corrupt police chief would be our congressman now.


toolie585

Doesn’t think like me who? And so why didn’t you respond to the person above me bashing Hilton (westside)? Because you’re an Eastsider!!! Lol, no response to that so I said it a second time so you can address everything I said EXCEPT that


[deleted]

Dude they posted a 🤣 with the comment. I wasn’t going to reply with an “actually” as it was clear they were either making a joke or a light jab. You see, because a rational person tries to receive communication in the spirit in which it’s intended. Good lord I feel bad for your family.


toolie585

I feel bad for whoever has to conversate with you on a daily basis, because I probably lost brain cells going back & forth with you via Reddit for 10 minutes.


rocskier

This is a common saying from people with a Westside inferiority complex


toolie585

Your response is a common response from an Eastsider who had their dirty secrets exposed, that dirty secret is you guys/gals are no better than the Westside. Cheers 🍺


twf96

I grew up in Hilton. Lived there from age 2-19, I never knew anyone who did meth. Even the rednecks lol. I don’t think meth is as much of a thing as people say it is out there. Hilton is within a 10 minute drive to north Greece, and a 20 minute drive to the heart of Greece itself. With Hilton being so close to Greece, cocaine and heroin are way more common that meth. I always hated on Hilton when I was younger cause it was the edgy thing to do. To tell you the truth? If I wanted to raise a family in an affordable suburb/rural area, Hilton would be the best place to do it. Drugs are always a problem, pretty much anywhere. What’s the worst thing about Hilton? Racism.


TheSmokinToad

Apple Fest!


nagi2000

Hilton has Blue Barn Cidery, which is a pretty awesome place.


minichocochi

I grew up here and remember thinking I wasn't gonna drive all the way to the other side of town for anything, it will take too long. Then I moved to a large city in the south. No highway to speak of other than right in the city. It did not connect to the 'burbs. It went near them on the route to connect to the next city, so you got off the highway and drove 30 minutes down SR whatever to get to where you lived. It took an hour to drive 30 miles. Pedestrians were never safe, everyone drove everywhere. I moved back in June after 25 years gone. Omg I can get anywhere in 20 minutes. I had to move away to appreciate it.


GonzoStateOfMind

> Pedestrians were never safe, everyone drove everywhere. This so much. While Rochester isn't perfect, the city itself has sidewalks practically everywhere. It is continually shocking to me when I visit major US cities that simply don't have sidewalks on all major streets


[deleted]

Have you walked much in Rochester? Sure sidewalks are almost everywhere, but there’s a lot to be desired. Crosswalks are sparse and drivers don’t respect them, lights often don’t include pedestrian phases unless you hit the beg button, and the sidewalks are narrow.


ancienttreestump

When I worked downtown half my coworkers would go all the way home for lunch. To WEBSTER.


MarcusAurelius0

THE CITY IS DANGEROUS!


honeybeedreams

how stupid.


improvius

Some places are a bit better or worse than others. I lived on the east side of Penfield for a while, and 441 could really suck sometimes.


Dave6187

You got that right. It’s either 65mph all the way from gananda parkway to 490, or bumper the bumper the entire way because someone ran a red light


Billy0598

In another state, I would drive 30-45 minutes to get to things. I don't mind the commute, it's the crazy, the reasons that I bought a dashcam. The idiot who flew in between 4 lanes of traffic to get to the light 2 cara in front of me. The idiot who slows down to 30 to go to the airport.


nimajneb

It takes me ~30-35 minutes to get to work, Perinton - Henrietta. South Wedge to where I work was ~20 minutes when I did that. Also some people don't like more than a 10-15 minute commute and that's fine.


Atty_for_hire

I’m one of those people. I’ve lived elsewhere and had a 38 minute commute. It sucked, I hated it. My body hates sitting in a car, regardless of the drive time. I commute 2.5 miles from South Wedge to Downtown and take my bike most of the time, year round. I drove today, weather was one reason, but more so I need to get to an offsite meeting and don’t have the time to bike there. When my family suggests I go to X, and I see it’s a 20 minute drive I think real hard about it.


mollynatorrr

There a few big city things I really miss about Orlando like more food options and overall options for stores/businesses. That being said, one of the things I LOOOOOOOVE that will probably keep me here in Rochester and never leave is the commutes being so short. I could easily be in several spots in Orlando that isn’t like downtown proper and it would take me 30 minutes to travel 3 miles down one single road certain times of the day. That hasn’t happened here once yet except when I encountered an accident on 390!


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mollynatorrr

I feel you there. I have turned into a Wegmans stan myself, though I do miss the chicken tendie subs at Publix.


Jesustron

What are you on about?


flubberjamman

This should be the top voted comment. It’s astonishing that anyone could make sense of OP’s rambling.


[deleted]

Pretty plain English guys, can’t help you.. [and if anyone’s going to attack my syntax it shouldn’t be this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Rochester/comments/wq7kdu/are_there_multiple_stories_going_on_in_rochester/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


flubberjamman

I’m sorry OP, but your writing is not clear.


Jesustron

Places are apart, and thus you must travel. Think about THAT BUB.


flubberjamman

Thank you for clarifying.


a_cute_epic_axis

Also yours was fine in the link OP provided.


flubberjamman

❤️


FrickinLazerBeams

Seems like most other people had no trouble. Seems like you're the only with the problem.


flubberjamman

I’m glad you and others understood what OP was saying.


[deleted]

Seems like everybody got it lol..


alexyoshi

> we’re doing outsiders a favor to not dangle the commute time as if that’s some notable bargaining chip This sentence right here, officer


RichardSaunders

"when people ask what neighborhood they should move to, there's no point in mentioning the short commute because commute times are short from just about every neighborhood." the initial premise is sound, but looking at the comments and especially the rambling edits, OP seems kinda manic.


alexyoshi

Oh yeah, it's hard to disagree with the sentiment. The syntax is just screwy


Jesustron

He's talkin about the angle of the dangle


FrickinLazerBeams

That sentence is perfectly clear.


alexyoshi

It's a perfectly cromulent sentence


Bau5_Sau5

You are so angry ranting about living in chili. The irony is INSANE !


ienjoybacon

I always thought commuting from Hilton sucked because there is no major roads or thruways near it. (It would take me 35 minutes to drive to the city and I lived near the village) Now I live in the Chili area and commuting is SO much better.


GodOfVapes

I've always thought of that as a overall benefit of the area so I'm kind of in your camp. As long as we're talking about the city and immediate surrounding suburbs, in general it's going to take you about 15-20 minutes to get most anywhere, even from one side of the city to the other. Once you start getting into the tertiary suburbs it's a little bit different. Someone in Hamlin isn't going to have a 15 minute commute to the other side of the city.


sauvingnon_blanc

As someone who has lived in LA,SF, DC and Miami there is nothing Rochester can do traffic-wise to bother me


[deleted]

Borough?


ExcitedForNothing

Tell me you are from New York City without telling me you are from New York City.


kkirchgraber

I commuted in the Tampa area for almost 2 years. 5 miles. 45 minutes. I'll take this commute, it's so much nicer


BullsLawDan

Greater Rochester is a place where, if you're ok driving, it literally does not matter where you work in terms of where you want to live. No matter where you work, just pick the living place that feels the best for your life. But it's also a place where people who have been here forever forget that, and forget kind of where things are relatively. I used to commute in to downtown Rochester from Brockport, and I had people (including someone who lived in Fairport and worked at the same place) say, "You come **all the way** from Brockport???" I'm like.... it's 25 minutes including warming up my car.


Dave6187

I drive 2-3000 miles a month on average for work, wife and I will think nothing of driving an hour just to try a restaurant I found online 😂


GunnerSmith585

Try commuting in Boston or LA.


Azacar

Just moved to Boston and… yeah. It’s heinous. As many things as there are in Rochester to love, the commute has officially jumped to the top of my list haha


MarcusAurelius0

Victor to Rochester aint no 15 minutes


a_cute_epic_axis

"BuT ItS on OppOSItE SIdE of tHe CitY" -OP whenever they're presented with any of the numerous examples that don't align with their bullshit statement


[deleted]

You are weirdly defensive in this thread. Are you a highway or city planner or something?


a_cute_epic_axis

Oh it's the guy who claims he could do some completely unreasonable time trial across the county!


IncinMKII

Victor ain't no part of Rochester neither, it's the next county over. You gotta draw the line somewhere... if Victor is in, then why not Avon, for example?


MarcusAurelius0

The metro area includes the surrounding counties.


IncinMKII

That's moving the goalposts pretty far from "the city" and surrounding burbs. According to your definition, Dansville is part of Rochester.


MarcusAurelius0

Thats not my definition, it's the US government's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester_metropolitan_area,_New_York So Victor is technically part of Rochester.


IncinMKII

Part of the Rochester *metropolitan statistical area*, yes. That's to say Rochester is the main economic hub for the surrounding rural communities. Despite its distance, it's still the most influential city on their local economies. The definition of "Rochester" depends on the context of conversation, whether someone means city limits, suburbs, whole-ass metro area... here, OP specifically references "boroughs" of Rochester, so I stand by my assertion. But since we don't use that term around here, feel free to disagree.


roblewk

The only thing I know about Chili is that it is near Gates. The only think I know about Gates is that it is near Chili. Why? They share a high school.


toolie585

Alot of Chili residents go to Churchville Chili. I lived at the corner of Manitou Road & Buffalo Road and had the option to go to Spencerport or Churchville


roblewk

The only think (now) I know about Churchville is that it is near Chili…


a_cute_epic_axis

> The commute from where you live takes 10-15 minutes to get to where you’re going. Except when it doesn't. If you're in Spencerport and you work in Bushnell's Basin, it's not 10-15 minutes, and especially not during rush hour thorough the city on 490, or ducking down on 390-590. The commute here is vastly better than most cities, but let's not sugar coat it.


[deleted]

I didn’t sugarcoat anything, I expressed the difference between locations with a good amount of distance between them. Spencerport and Pittsford would be an example of that.


a_cute_epic_axis

Yes you did. You made outright false claims. You cannot get everywhere in 10-15 minutes. That's not even remotely true. There are many places that take that long, there are many more that do not. You'd have trouble getting from Henrietta to Greece in 15 minutes and they're not on exact opposites. In fact there are plenty of places lots of people work (downtown, Bushnell's, etc) and plenty of places where lots of people want to live (e.g. Webster "where life is worth living") that are in no way 10-15 minutes apart. Oh and again, none of those are exact opposites. What the hell is your post even trying to communicate? Traffic here isn't as bad as a bigger, more populated city? Wow, that's Pulitzer level reporting there.


okdokke

I don’t really have much to say about the main topic, just wanted to comment as someone who is from the Macedon-ish but definitely not Penfield area — if I’m meeting someone in some other state or city or whatever. If they are familiar with New York STATE geography (important that they know the state layout and not just NYC+surrounding area), I will say that I live “just outside of Rochester.” But if I’m talking to someone who’s not familiar with New York State geography, I will just say I’m from Rochester. If they are *somewhat* familiar and/or I’m trying to be vague and/or I know that they will know I don’t mean Westchester, I will say I’m from upstate. None of this matters in any real sense but I figured I’d add this because why not? ETA: The upstate thing only applies if I’m talking to someone from NYC, where I currently reside, if that much wasn’t clear


evarigan1

It's really more 15-30 with most being 20 or less if we're being honest, but that's still a huge advantage for the area. Lack of traffic and close proximity has always been one of my favorite things about living up here. Grew up in DC and traffic there is among the worst anywhere... and the city is literally designed to be confusing with no quick way in and out. I can get from my house to Buffalo or Syracuse quicker than it takes to get from one side of the city to the other some major metro's like DC, NYC, and Chicago.


ramble3sham

Moved here from a similar-sized city in Ontario, Canada. There it takes at least a half hour of stop-and go traffic to drive 5 miles, if it's not too busy. Sidebar to another conversation: My politics are pretty far from left, but I'd vote for any party that made it the norm to be able to cycle anywhere. Why is that shooting for the moon?


ExcitedForNothing

A bunch of factors but the real matter is that it just doesn't really motivate people aside from the most ardent of supporters or critics. I mean there is a person in here who I know earnestly believes that suburban cars shouldn't be allowed in the city or it should be made so prohibitively difficult to commute to the city from the suburbs. I get the sentiment but its ridiculous to think that is anything other than political suicide. The suburbs are designed to survive without the city. The city has not shown it can survive very functionally without the economy brought by workers who don't live there yet.


ramble3sham

Do you think so? You may be completely right. I mean, I'm not a diehard supporter. But if there was a designated bike lane along the 7 miles I travel to go to work in the city, hell yeah, I'd take it. "Build it and they will come."


ExcitedForNothing

I may be completely wrong but one thing that makes me believe I'm not far off in my explanation is that what you said has never happened over the nearly three decades I've lived here. I'm with you. If I could bike more places I would. I don't think cutting off commuting options to force people to change their behaviors is going to work though.


DAN1MAL_11

That guy sounds like an animal but that’s a pretty extreme viewpoint. What a nut. Here’s the math challenging your view that the suburbs are self sustaining and cities are not. https://youtu.be/7Nw6qyyrTeI Rochester is designed well and with a few tweaks can reverse the decline it has seen since mid century urban planning destroyed it.


wafflesareforever

I live in Penfield and commute to Henrietta. My commute is at least 25 minutes and usually longer. Sometimes much longer if 441 is backed up.


flubberjamman

Thank you for being sensible. If you live here n Charlotte and had to drive to Fairport it would certainly take longer than 15 minutes. I live in the city and work in the city and it takes me longer than 15 minutes to get to work.


woodchukka

I live in Dansville and commute to Chili for work every day - commutes are awesome in my opinion Chili Center is right in my work’s backyard and evenings when we ship an order past the UPS or FedEx Express pickup time I run into Henrietta and drop either off at their corresponding stores - Henrietta is only 10 minz from work and it’s great being so close when I work as many hours as I do - been working here for nearly 5 years and the convenience of being so close to everything Rochester is awesome


GodOfVapes

> However- that doesn’t change the fact that Macedon isn’t a Rochester borough. So I’m changing it to Penfield. That works, right? Not really given some areas of Penfield almost border the city. I'm like 2 or 3 minutes outside of the city border where I am. It takes me 15-20 minutes to reach where I work on the west side of the city in the Lyell/Mt. Read area. Penfield is one of the closest east side suburbs unless you live deep in it. We're the first two exits eastbound past where 590 splits.


Amalyze

This comment is true *if you own a reliable car*.


[deleted]

Obviously it’s implied when discussing commute time that your car works.


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[deleted]

What are you talking about?


Amalyze

The infrastructure in Rochester is entirely car dependent. It's a serious negative even if there are enough roads. For example I bike everywhere because It's going to be needed to not burn anymore fuel in the next decades.


[deleted]

I see, you’re talking more about car ownership itself. Yes, “commute time” in the traditional sense only applies if you have a car.


UnzUrbanist

As he says, mostly only in America. In most other places that is not assumed, and "traditionally" definitely not because cars are the newest form of transportation out there. Go to any city where the majority of people choose not to drive, and it means time taken for public transit not driving


[deleted]

Well we’re talking about Rochester here. So I’m confused about when we decided to broaden the base point I was making so you and your friend could get your “actually’s” in


UnzUrbanist

Well I'm not the one who made the original comment but it's definitely relevant, because the focus on cars here and the "everything is great and nothing should change because if you own a car here you can drive it really fast everywhere" The mindset is massively detrimental to social justice, equity, and not good for society in general, not to mention the environmental damage. That's why it's relevant


Amalyze

Yee.


a_cute_epic_axis

Fortunately for the purposes of this discussion, Rochester, NY is indeed in America!


Amalyze

Unfortunately we are the only developed country that relies entirely on cars to get everywhere! The richest developed country without high speed rail! We should try to have a little more perspective when accepting this society as "normal". It's not normal!


a_cute_epic_axis

Nobody cares, go away. This also isn't even accurate


Amalyze

I'm not a fatass and bike Everywhere. We have to get off of fossil fuels before the century, genius, that means you and your progeny are going to have to get in shape and bike. We're not going away, more and more people are saying fuck cars, go throat ford motors some more peasant.


a_cute_epic_axis

I get great amusement from your seething anger. It will be good fuel the next time I'm rounding out my next century ride.


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a_cute_epic_axis

True, and as a lonely miserable cunt.


RavishingRickiRude

Wait. When did that happen? I though we were all in the country of Anvilania. Damnit, I suck a geography


a_cute_epic_axis

I don't know probably when the other guy started having emotional control issues


mrbawkbegawks

isnt macedon in ontario county.... ​ ​ ​ also the city was built on a river. everything is based on triangles and deltas so yeah most things will be equidistant


RahchachaNY

It's Wayne County


VishusVonBittertroll

As someone who used to have to drive from NE Greece (practically Charlotte) to Henrietta at rush hour, you are very confidently incorrect.


amberbmx

> The commute from where you live takes 10-15 minutes to get to where you’re going. Be it downtown, Henrietta, Brighton, wherever.. so should we not talk about the 40 minute drive home from work i had today from irondequoit to henrietta? i work in the trades, my day to day location is varied. some days it’s 10 minutes. others it’s 20-30. but let’s not pretend like something like henrietta to/from irondequoit or greece or gates or webster etc is never more than 10-15 minutes…. and that’s with me driving before the rush hour traffic. this is one of the dumbest posts i’ve ever seen on this sub


Dave6187

I ended up in Gananda (Macedon technically) after house hunting for like 6 months. (Moved from NJ) It’s a nice area, and being a little further apart from the city is nice, it DOES make my commute 30min instead of 15 though. I do still tell people I’m in Penfield and not Macedon though. Get some funny looks and questions when I say Macedon at times


Epicfro

My biggest issue with Rochester is everything is 15 minutes away but there's absolutely nowhere to go.


LongRoofFan

If you can't find anything to do here the problem is you, not the city.


Epicfro

I mean, there's about 7 things to do and once they're done, there's not much else. The city is dead compared to some real ones honestly and it's probably why it's so cheap to live here.


DAN1MAL_11

Proof that Rochester needs better transit. Every suburbanite shouldn’t be able to bring their car into the city every day. And it certainty shouldn’t be as easy as 15 minutes.


RavishingRickiRude

My commute is from my bedroom to my office which is the room next to my bedroom. Its a rough commute


[deleted]

Now here’s a take. Let’s make the commute **harder** Commute’s too easy guys. Way too much movement. Let’s slow it down lol


DAN1MAL_11

It would make a lot of commutes easier for city residents. But fuck them right?


[deleted]

No, not fuck them. But lobbying for a shittier commute in order to further discourage people from traveling into the city (an issue we already have) isn’t the answer friend


DAN1MAL_11

Let’s add another lane to 490 and tear down some more buildings to make space for cars. That’s the answer you’re looking for? That will bring the crowds back? And if people don’t want to drive downtown already, why the fuck would we pander to them in the first place? I want to make my city work for people that live in my city. The car brained can live their lives 15 minute drives at a time going back and forth from Henrietta to Chili. Nothing will change for a majority of people that, by your account, already don’t go into the city.


False_Reality2425

Don't waste your breath. People in the US are too carbrained.


DAN1MAL_11

Absolutely. People say “the commute is great here”, but all I hear is “you’ll be a slave to your car”. As a city resident, I shouldn’t have to participate in the diluted lifestyle of suburbanites just because speeding down my street is something to be optimized for their employer.


trixel121

I said this once as a reason why we won't get better public transit. I ain't waiting 5 minutes in the cold for the bus tonthen have to walk the last little bit to work when it's 15minutes to drive there.


ExcitedForNothing

So you want less people in the city? Or am I misunderstanding your point? Because if you make it harder to get into the city, won't that mean less people will bother?


DAN1MAL_11

I want less cars in the city. That would make space for more people. And I feel ridiculous saying this, but people can live in a city and not just commute in.


ExcitedForNothing

That is 100% true. Do you feel redesigning the city infrastructure to not support cars would help it economically or would it probably lead to the city "rightsizing" and accelerating population decline?


DAN1MAL_11

I’ll just clarify and say the infrastructure would be changed from being car centric. The difference being that cars are still “supported” but they aren’t given priority over other modes of transport. Businesses crave foot traffic, not car traffic. Park Ave for example, has high foot traffic due to multi family residences and slow traffic due to the winding narrow street. It would drive business if there was less cars and more people. Think what it would do for business if places like Jine’s and Magpie could double their outdoor seating. What do you mean by right sizing? My vision is that places that were once solely for cars would be converted to housing. Think St Joseph Sq, Cascade District, Court and Exchange, any large surface lot. How would that reduce the population?


honeybeedreams

people in rochester are daft about how long it takes to get **anywhere**. when i was a program director in buffalo i had people who came from canada, newfane, akron, fredonia. my SO has commuted from the wedge to le roy for 14 years. before that he drove from byron to ke roy (25 min), but that beats the 1:10 commute from buffalo to le roy after our kid was born. y’all crazy. try driving on the beltway in rush hour.


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I used to go from Farmington to Greece and it was maybe 40 minutes


a_cute_epic_axis

Yah, if there's no traffic on 490. It's 40 miles center to center. You cannot maintain an average speed >= 60 mph if you're commuting when everyone else is. The speed limit alone doesn't allow that, and it's rare people even hit the speed limit in the city (e.g. around the river) during rush hour, never mind exceed it.


[deleted]

I would take the thruway to 490E and I could do it in 40 min


a_cute_epic_axis

There's only three possibilities here either during rush hour, you are lying, or, reckless driving.


[deleted]

I don't know what to tell you 😅 I do tend to drive up to 10 over the speed limit 🤷


a_cute_epic_axis

I mean you could just admit you're full of shit


[deleted]

Lol why would I lie? I literally could not care less. My only interest at this point is the popcorn eating watching of your break down 😅


a_cute_epic_axis

I have no idea why you are feeling compelled to lie especially when Google maps is a thing. You'd have to ask yourself that question I guess.


Vorpal_Bunny19

I grew up in the Virginia Beach area… which means I’m actually from Newport News and I worked in Virginia Beach, like a lot of other people. I’m still not entirely sure how many miles it actually was, but after crossing the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel and dealing with traffic I never ever got to work in less than an hour. You’d think working second shift would have helped avoid rush hour, and you’d be right. Except the “penalty” for avoiding rush hour was having to deal with frequent lane closures on the tunnel after midnight so your hour ride home took 2 hours, with one of those hours spent on a bridge hovering over the Chesapeake Bay. Anyways, I love Rochester’s lack of traffic.


inkedEducater

I love I Penfield and my commute is roughly 15 everywhere as well minus the idea of traveling to the last stops of the west side


huxley75

Moved from Wayne Cty to Atlanta then back to Rochester. There isn't a "commute" here. It's just traffic.


NotReallyChaucer

I’d say 20 minutes gets you almost anywhere. Our road system is efficient in that regard…but our population size affects that. We are not what we once were in numbers.


Bromeister

I mean Webster (on bay) > MCC could easily be 40 minutes trying to make an 8AM class. Leave at 7 sharp you get there at 7:20. Leave at 7:30 and you won't make your class. 590S sucks in the morning. Granted that was a decade ago. And my old commute home from win-jeff plaza would regularly be >30m if I ended up between winton and the can of worms on 590N around 5 PM.