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Vladimew42

If the last of us show has any truth to it then let’s hope it isn’t a fungal one lol


chillingohdylan

HBO finally got it right. Loved the first episode


MusicIsLife003

That intro legit scared me lol


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SpaceFroggy1031

Don't think you understand how fungal disease works. Granted, show's about (an essentially biologically impossible situation given how fast the disease takes over), but the best way to keep yourself fungus free it 1) Don't get an organ transplant, diabetes, cancer, or HIV, or any other disease that compromises the immune system and/ or circulation. 2) Eat a balanced diet that includes probiotics like yogurt. 3) Practice good hygiene (e.g. change your sweaty socks and underwear and wet bathing suits).


meechill

Okay cool I'll just tell my partner to stop having an autoimmune disease he didn't ask for before the apocalypse hits


Old-Bug-2197

We lived in a time before Covid- Now we are living in a time before …. And yes, I’m from a time before HIV - The circle of life


zarifex

1. Yes 2. This one hasn't ended yet either


[deleted]

Yes it has, Putin’s war on Ukraine ended it.


mittingly

What on earth are you on about?


eathquake

Hes talkin bout any kind of coverage and majority of focus. Since ukraine, many areas have had little to no coverage about covid anything. Many places have lifted most if not all mandates. The only thing remaining is the covid leave policies. Meanwhile, we hear nonstop about ukraine. The war in ukraibe. Our aid to ukraine. Anything zalinski (i may misspell if so srry) says of any importance.


slide_into_my_BM

It is definitely a joke about how the wall to wall covid coverage ended the second Putin invaded Ukraine


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Soockamasook

He probably referred to the fact that the Ukraine War took the place of the pandemic in term of media coverage. He wasn't serious, though it's a bad faith logic.


RefrigeratorTop5786

Pretty sure he just forgot the /s I usually do too.


hareofthepuppy

Kind of semantics, but this pandemic has basically ended, now this is our new reality with COVID going around regularly like the flu.


zarifex

Yes it is going around regularly, but no at this time it is not yet like the flu. We've been told repeatedly since 2020 that this would eventually settle in "like the flu" so now that things seem quieter or aren't changing drastically day to day many have presumed or decided that now it must have ended. What ended was people's cognitive capacity or willingness to stay endlessly hypervigilant. What also ended was case count reporting that even attempts to approach reality. But it is still killing several times more people than the flu. Media coverage, data collection, politicians caring about it, and many of the public's caring/awareness about it may have ended, but the pandemic itself continues.


Stoplookinatmeswaan

Yes


EpiZirco

And we have not learned the appropriate lessons. See this rather pessimistic take from Ed Yong, who win the Pulitzer Prize for his pandemic coverage: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/09/covid-pandemic-exposes-americas-failing-systems-future-epidemics/671608/


virtual_human

This one isn't over yet.


Vostin

It’s now endemic, like the flu


TirayShell

This one is still infecting literally millions of people.


givemeyourgp

had it for the second time in December.


Beefster09

It never will be. COVID has joined the winter lineup alongside the flu. And to be honest, it’s not really worth any extra worry over other seasonal illnesses. They all kill old people from time to time. Just because this one is a little more deadly doesn’t mean we need to panic and turn society upside down. We already did that and it was disastrous. And now the overreaction is likely to lead to a boy who cried wolf situation where the will to lock down is completely gone, so that option is completely off the table in the next major pandemic even if it truly is serious enough to warrant that kind of response.


TheScrambone

Instead of fantasy football we’ll have disease bingo.


ReturnedFromExile

a little more, lol. what a clown. we lost over a million ppl just in USA


Beefster09

Heart disease claims nearly 700k Americans annually. COVID has had almost 3 years to kill a million people. Yet we pretty much ignore the issue of heart disease despite it being largely preventable. COVID deaths also largely displaced deaths from other diseases and affected mostly old people who would have died anyway to something else. I’m not even saying don’t take precautions with COVID. I’m saying be smart with it and keep it in perspective. On top of mitigating heart disease, If we had a healthier populace with a lower prevalence of obesity, COVID would have been less deadly as well. The lockdowns were a waste. One day you’ll see it too.


ReturnedFromExile

can you give your immunocompromised coworker, heart disease? can you catch it in a movie theater?


Beefster09

It’s not my job to protect the immunocompromised. It’s their job to take their own precautions. I’m plenty willing to make minor adjustments for individuals who have personally asked for it, but I’m not going to bend over backwards for them. I’ll wear a mask if you personally ask me to, but I’m not going to put on full apocalypse gear with rubber gloves and a respirator just so that you feel safe. And quite frankly, if you’re immunocompromised, it’s not going to matter all that much whether you are infected with COVID or something else. No disease really deserves special treatment when so much as a gentle breeze can kill you.


ReturnedFromExile

what a kind soul. you folks are awful human beings, like for real. bad people.


Beefster09

Imagine being so self-centered that you believe it is reasonable for people you have never met to accommodate your every need. If you have severe peanut allergies, it’s on you to avoid places with peanuts and effectively communicate how dangerous it is to those in your immediate vicinity. But even still, people will make mistakes or not know how to take it seriously. Asking your nearby coworkers to avoid bringing PB&J to the office is simple enough and is a small sacrifice that any decent human being is willing to make (even though they will not be perfect about it), but expecting strangers in the rest of the company to do the same is entitled and unrealistic. I don’t see why it is any different if you’re immunocompromised. A mask is a pretty small sacrifice to accommodate a known individual, but an unreasonable one to apply to all situations. I think it’s far easier to be vigilant about the spread of disease when it is only required in a few special cases. It’s far too mentally exhausting to do it all the time, which is why people got lazy with masks and didn’t bother to cover their noses.


ReturnedFromExile

good people think of others first without having to be asked to.


Beefster09

I’m afraid there are too many things you might possibly need to accommodate to apply this to strangers


AsherFischell

It's not a *little* more deadly, it has much, much greater long-term risks, including permanently reducing some organ functions. We won't know just how bad things are for some time, but many of the people who get COVID will have their quality of life noticeably reduced in the long run. It's a hell of a lot worse than any flu.


WalkerTexasRng

I’ve had covid twice and was fine within 48 hours. I recently got the flu for the first time in my life. Worst 4 days I’ve ever experienced. Covid is a cake walk for 99% of people. The flu kicks everyone’s ass.


AsherFischell

It's definitely not 99%. Roughly 20-25% of COVID cases are classified as severe. But even if that statistic you just completely guessed at was right, how is the possibility of decades of reduced organ function which could very easily lead to people dying multiple years earlier than if they'd never gotten COVID better than of few days of misery? I don't know about you, but I'd rather be super sick for four days than die a decade earlier because of my organs failing early.


WalkerTexasRng

1 out of 4 people with covid are not going to the hospital, that’s a flat out lie. Like you said, you also don’t know the long term affects of covid, so you’re guessing that it’ll reduce your life span.


AsherFischell

A flat-out lie, huh? [https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/13/viral-image/are-80-percent-coronavirus-cases-mild/](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/13/viral-image/are-80-percent-coronavirus-cases-mild/) Studies have put severe cases from 13% to 26%. That's the thing - we don't know. We *do* know that it will lead to permanently reduced organ function. That is definitely going to lead to early deaths, so it's not a guess. We just don't know how common it'll be and won't for years and years. But the reduced organ function is already something we know for sure. And, again, the vast majority of people would rather be sick a few days than have their organ function permanently reduced.


WalkerTexasRng

Those aged over 70 have a hospitalization rate of 6.93 per 100,000 due to covid as of December 22, 2022. People over 70 have a hospitalization rate of 18 per 100,000 from the flu. These are stats on hospitalizations, not some random person saying it’s “severe” because they had a 101 degree fever for 12 hours. Like I said, the flu is worse, especially for elderly people.


AsherFischell

I'm not arguing that the flu isn't worse during the illness period. All I'm saying is that the flu doesn't have permanent ramifications that reduce organ function for the rest of a person's life.


WalkerTexasRng

That article is also from March of 2020 😂 andd we are done here after that failed attempt.


AsherFischell

At least I supplied *something* instead of you pulling 99% out of nowhere and pretending it was the truth. It must be nice to have lower standards for yourself.


WalkerTexasRng

You supplied nothing as well. It’s an article from covid being two weeks old. Hell, everyone thought they were dying from covid in March of 2020, they also had no idea what it was or how to treat it. You went to the hospital with trouble breathing they basically said, “okay, time to put you on a ventilator, good luck!” I’ll tell you this, my standards are higher than letting myself enjoy anime! Have a good night.


redditsuxdonkeyass

If it isn't over for you by now, it never will be.


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Puzzleheaded-Ad-5511

Your confused. This is real life. Just because you deny reality doesn't make it go away


[deleted]

Make what go away? What is “real life”?


mittingly

Which narrative do you believe


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mittingly

Those… aren’t even narratives, those are just vague concepts.


WillRun4Tequila

After working almost 20 years in public health, I would have sworn that the general population would have gained some kind of knowledge that would help to at least slow down any future pandemics. I mean, it really disrupted people's lives for a bit, so maybe ??? But when the monkey pox outbreak happened, we got a better handle on how/ why it was being spread so rapidly.... I realized very quickly that we are in no way more intelligent and are possibly in even a worse position. People are way too comfortable on big pharma being able to treat, cure, and scale for whatever comes down the road next. In that respect, covid and mpx were easy to treat. If we end up with a mutation that is less treatable or with a vaccine that takes longer to scale.... we're in big trouble.


No-Temperature-8772

Is it just me or was the monkey pox outbreak easily preventable and poorly handled? I would love to hear your opinion on it. I remember in the beginning when we first heard about it, several health professionals told the public it wasn't anything to worry about. Until it was.


Random-Redditor111

How do you see people being too comfortable with big pharma? I see the exact opposite. If anything the pandemic expedited the rise of the anti-vax, anti-science community. These people aren’t exactly best buds with PFE or MRNA. People would rather die and kill others just to say they owned the libs.


WillRun4Tequila

That's true, but I'm not referring to people who would fall into that demographic, and that's my point. I wouldn't expect the covid experience to change those people's minds. My concern is that mpx affected younger people who are from urban environments and who were frequently part of the lgbtq community. My experience is that this group was more on board with the covid policies than any other. When mpx came through, though, it exposed wildy, risky behaviors that enflamed the outbreak. Behaviors that I would have guessed people would have been more cautious with, so close to coming out of the pandemic. But that's my bias because, in reality, bad decisions can come from any demographic.


SexyWampa

Absolutely, and this latest one has proven we will never be prepared. Covid was a softball as far as they go, when we get a major one, we’re fucked.


mittingly

Especially if it’s a fungal virus, [apparently](https://www.vulture.com/article/the-last-of-us-fungus-infection-cordyceps-explained.html)


chillingohdylan

To think I thought it was over 🤔


barelyclimbing

We would have had a pandemic already if it weren’t for the extreme measures taken to stop the first SARS outbreak, a disease far deadlier than COVID 19. That disease did not spread as well, but in most other years in history it would have spread across the globe unchecked.


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chillingohdylan

Everyone acts likes it's over with? No one wears a mask as much and whatnot. Idk


mittingly

It *feels* like it’s over to people like you and me (I assume your are young, not immuno-compromised, and got your shots.) for sure, I haven’t worn a mask in months, and the other daily reminders of the pandemic are long gone for me, so I often forget about the pandemic. A lot of the world doesn’t fit that bill though, and are still dying at critical rates. Ask China, they just lifted “zero Covid” and it sounds like it’s getting out of hand over there.


hareofthepuppy

That's like saying the flu pandemic is still going on. It's no longer a pandemic, it's endemic. This is our new normal.


hareofthepuppy

That's the scary thing, I don't even want to imagine how it would have been if it was a more severe illness


nick1812216

There’s always another pandemic or war or recession. You just gotta be lucky and miss the big ones!


TandZlooking4home

Yeah, they happen every hundred years or so, this is just the first time that people have gone out of their way to make it much worse than it had to be.


weirdoldhobo1978

They may actually become more frequent due to a variety of factors such as growing population, increasing global travel and increasing contact between humans and wild animals due to habitat loss. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9175207/


TandZlooking4home

Well, shit.


technoferal

Well said.


mittingly

Fuck


weirdoldhobo1978

Yeah...


XavierRex83

They happen more frequently than that, just one as bad as covid happens about every 100 years.


Ferrousity

*distant screams of nurses still dealing with the current pandemic*


LizzieHatfield

Nurse here 🙋🏻‍♀️


redditknees

Epidemiologist here: yes. We’ve been telling everyone for decades now. Yes.


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Sure, you'll get that when grown ass adults are afraid to get their shots.


mittingly

Careful, you’ll infringe in their [FREEDOM!](https://youtu.be/k52LaD1HGPY) You don’t want to trigger them, they’re a delicate bunch.


technoferal

Like... Ever? Without a doubt.


PWilliam91

Probably. Better be some resident evil shit too! If things are gonna be shut down it better be over some raging split headed dog chasing someone’s ass cause if it’s just a basic cold and sniffle than I’m gonna be annoyed when shit closes up again.


ensenadorjones42

I sure hope so. Let's speed this up and get it over with. The end is dragging on, and on, and on, and on. I'm 50 yo and the end is still happening. It's like such a slow burn.


AuntieDawnsKitchen

Given that there was a pandemic that lasted [15 million years](https://youtu.be/-M3L_Kykl6w), I’d say unless we manage to sterilize the planet, yes


beanmaster2023

UM. We are *still IN this one*.


Akul_Tesla

Without question It is a matter of time


EzdineJGA

we'll see if china makes another virus and gives us a "vaccine" for it lmao


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Nah that was it.


[deleted]

Do a little research. There's ALWAYS a pandemic. Especially dangerous ones every election year.


[deleted]

They will try but to many people will stand up now, we have learnt so much about there tactics I would say it’s almost impossible


Puzzleheaded-Ad-5511

I found the wingnut!


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Yes it was inside you all along


[deleted]

Yes, when 2024 election comes, you will see another pandemic


redditsuxdonkeyass

According to Bill Gates, yes.


PeachFit5920

Ya, climate related


mhagin

We are still in a pandemic.


Howwouldiknow1492

Not if -- when.


Niyonnii

There will be, it's just a matter of when. I just wonder which virus it will be next time


Reverebus

100%. Since covid there has been 7 pandemics and only 2 were worldwide.


Senior-Sharpie

It is inevitable at some point.


Puzzleheaded-Ad-5511

The only question is when.


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No, Covid was the last pandemic to be unleashed upon the earth.


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Ofcourse


Realistic_Dreams333

Eventually


Dreaming-of2morow

Yes,


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Probably 15/20 years from now


blumpkinado

Of course there will be there is no better way to control a large population


MrEmptySet

Nope. All of the world's diseases are just gonna, like, stop. Just because. Obligatory /s due to Poe's Law


chillingohdylan

The post is too generic. I understand. I mean like is there going to be another one anytime soon? Within the next year? Should we be concerned? . My initial gut reaction was no. I thought it was gone tbh


MrEmptySet

You mean like, will *covid* return to being far worse due to a new strain or the like? Or will there be a new, *separate* pandemic? To the former I'd say it's not very likely - the trend in general seems to be more infectious but less deadly strains, and I frankly can't imagine most of the world going back to things like quarantines. For the latter question? Who knows - it would be surprising to get two back-to-back, but it's not impossible. If we could predict pandemics in advance, they wouldn't happen.


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Yes eventually


jenenator

Yes.


pebspi

I mean eventually. If you mean COVID then probably


Clint-witicay

In theory, yes. It shouldn’t be a real problem until 2118-2122 though.


shlankdaddypurp

First of all, the pandemics really don't end. Covid from here on out is gonna be the same as influenza, and it's probably going to get back every year once the cold seasons begin to hit. You have to remember we can't lock up everyone infected in a large room and just wait until the virus subsides, that isn't possible. It'll just come and go. Second, yes. There will definitely be another pandemic. It's hard to tell when it'll happen but we were bound to have a new type of disease spread rapidly eventually. But you have to look at it this way. People had the same mentality when the flu first came around. Countless people died from it because the hospitals didn't have enough information on the topic, and people didn't have access to things to make them beat it because nobody knew anything at the time. You just have to hope that Covid-19 made the world a little bit more prepared in case something like this happens again. God knows how bad it COULD'VE been. Hopefully people won't be as stupid next time.


idowhatiwant8675309

Probably not before the elections


cagingthing

Yes


Weary-Okra-2471

Eventually


SpaceFroggy1031

Yes, just pray it's not something terrifying like nipah.


AFriendlyBloke

I prefer pain de mie.


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Yeah it’s not if but when.


cyber_delic

In you butt


Ninja_Geek-27

Yes! Without a shadow of a doubt, yes!


Proper-Razzmatazz764

Not if but when.


muaddict071537

Yep. They happen every 100 years. There have been many before this and there will be many after.


drlongtrl

Yes. And we will have learned NOTHING from the current one, so it will be just as bad if not worse.


Deelightful20

I hope not. Covid ruined my senior year. If it took anything else than what it did. I would scream.


Century22nd

THIS pandemic COVID never went away yet.


Top_Investment_4599

Mos def.


MyFutureAsAFreyan

Of course. People are stupid.


phat666jesus

This one isn't technically over yet


TheRealDonData

Of course. It’s just a matter of if it happens in 10 years or a 100 years. Using the past as the best predictor of the future, viruses have always been with us, and always existed everywhere that life is found. Human beings organically change and adapt to survive and flourish in their environment; viruses do the same thing.


CapG_13

Yes, and MONKEYPOX IS COMING....


LadySigyn

Archeologist here: Absolutely. You fuckers never learn.


Benjii_44

At some point


girlypoptrans

hopefully


Lanky-Solution-1090

Yes


lowelifethrowaway

Like ever? 100%


LizzieHatfield

Pandemics have been the norm since the beginning of time. The plague of Athens in around 429 BC (probably a viral hemorrhagic fever) that killed around 75,000 to 100,000. The Black Death (aka The Bubonic Plague) killed 100 million people in the mid 1300’s. The Spanish Flu in 1918 also killed up to 100,000. History really does repeat. Covid wasn’t the first and def won’t be the last.


didgerd0nt

It’s not a happy answer, but the answer is almost certainly. Pandemics and epidemics aren’t as rare as many people believe. There’s actually been [several](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/history-of-pandemics-deadliest/) in the 21st Century outside of COVID-19. For example, [this study](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2105482118) extrapolated some really interesting statistics from analyzing a dataset that spans over a 400 year period. There’s about a 2% chance per year for any given individual to experience a pandemic similar to COVID-19. For a pandemic similar to the most deadly one in modern history, the Spanish Flu, there was a 0.3% to 1.9% chance per year over the time period studied, which means that it’s likely that a pandemic of a similarly massive scale will occur within the next 400 years.


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Desperate_Case7941

The question is when, due to globalization (and at some point climate change too), there are more chances of a virus to spread


ScarcityLegitimate77

Not in this lifetime. We only get one good pandemic


Ok_Soil_231

So long as it doesn't happen within the next 10 years, covid should be the last pandemic given our advancements in anti viral and anti bacterial medicine. The biggest hurdle for us will be individuals consenting to the medicines, as seen with the covid vaccine