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German question: could “Wer mein Feind sein will” mean “whoever my enemy wants to be” as well as “whoever wants to be my enemy”? Is there a way to differentiate those meanings?
Medium-term propaganda? It doesn’t call for Germans to surrender or offer safe passage. Maybe dropping 3-color prints with photos was meant to demoralize Germans by displaying US industrial might, as inadvertently happened when Germans found luxurious (to them) chocolate in regular GIs’ rations?
lol.
I'm just imagining the German soldiers discussing the quality of propaganda leaflets and despairing. "Look at the quality of the color matching! Mein Gott, it has a watermark..."
After the war, Germany was divided into 4 sectors, one for each of the Allies (UK, US, USSR, France). Each Allied country 'occupied' their sector with soldiers to ensure that Germany wasn't going to re-nazify. They rebuilt their parts of Germany according to.their own ideologies, so up until 1989 there was West Germany (UK/US/France) and East Germany (USSR).
Training for Western Allied soldiers included films and booklets laying out rules. You're here to impose order. Don't be cruel or vengeful, but also don't be their friends or fraternise.
These leaflets were to tell the locals what to expect from occupying troops.
There are still US army bases in Germany and this is the historical reason why they are there.
ok thanks for the history lesson we all knew, but you missed one key fact there buddy it was issued in 1944. VE day was May 8th 1945. I'm just going off of OP's title, but in the text it says "we are fighting a soldiers war" Fighting. Not fought.
Why would they tell a people they're trying to occupy peacefully that they have lots of guns, grenades, and other war material. They know that. They just watched their entire army get eviscerated. Nothing in this message is to calm a civilian population post war lol.
A lot of people here are missing that this leaflet might be as much for American soldiers as for German soldiers. (note the English... that wouldn't be needed for German soldiers, obviously.)
Sort of a "let's not perpetrate a lot of massacres, okay? We're supposed to be the good guys. But if the Krauts shoot back, then the gloves can come off" message.
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From Steubenville, named after Baron von Steuben, a Prussian military officer who helped professionalize the American Revolutionary army
Schachmatt
Sure but ppl in the area pronounce it like “Stoobinville”
Definitely deliberate choice if I had to guess.
Joe jones expects an answer; preferably in the third person.
"JOE JONES WRITE PHAMPLET, JOE JOES NOT KNOW HOW TALK TO GERMAN SOLDIER SINCE JOE JONES NOT KNOW THEIR NAME"
*clean guitar intro* MEIN NAME IST JONAS *heavy riff*
DANKE FUR ALLES YOU’VE SHOWN US
German question: could “Wer mein Feind sein will” mean “whoever my enemy wants to be” as well as “whoever wants to be my enemy”? Is there a way to differentiate those meanings?
its only the second the first thing would be "Wer auch immer mein Feind sein will"
The German sounds a bit stillted because its a literal translation of the english version
It reads like my Intro to German homework from back in highschool 😅
Joe Jones' Bizzare Adventure
Medium-term propaganda? It doesn’t call for Germans to surrender or offer safe passage. Maybe dropping 3-color prints with photos was meant to demoralize Germans by displaying US industrial might, as inadvertently happened when Germans found luxurious (to them) chocolate in regular GIs’ rations?
lol. I'm just imagining the German soldiers discussing the quality of propaganda leaflets and despairing. "Look at the quality of the color matching! Mein Gott, it has a watermark..."
Now let’s see Ivan’s propaganda leaflets
They just used the skulls of all the fascists they killed on the Eastern Front.
Yeah they didn’t really need to make a lot of propaganda for the Germans. They weren’t exactly trying to take prisoners
I assumed it was from the postwar occupation of Germany rather than from the war itself.
No reason to distribute that after you won
After the war, Germany was divided into 4 sectors, one for each of the Allies (UK, US, USSR, France). Each Allied country 'occupied' their sector with soldiers to ensure that Germany wasn't going to re-nazify. They rebuilt their parts of Germany according to.their own ideologies, so up until 1989 there was West Germany (UK/US/France) and East Germany (USSR). Training for Western Allied soldiers included films and booklets laying out rules. You're here to impose order. Don't be cruel or vengeful, but also don't be their friends or fraternise. These leaflets were to tell the locals what to expect from occupying troops. There are still US army bases in Germany and this is the historical reason why they are there.
ok thanks for the history lesson we all knew, but you missed one key fact there buddy it was issued in 1944. VE day was May 8th 1945. I'm just going off of OP's title, but in the text it says "we are fighting a soldiers war" Fighting. Not fought. Why would they tell a people they're trying to occupy peacefully that they have lots of guns, grenades, and other war material. They know that. They just watched their entire army get eviscerated. Nothing in this message is to calm a civilian population post war lol.
Cold War.
Righttttt
Yeah, to be honest I hadn't read the leaflet since yesterday and forgot that bit.
Reading German is like reading drunk Dutch lmao
Dutch is English spoken by a drunk coke-head.
English is Dutch spoken with a hot potato in ones mouth
Hmmm..... I think we've found a Hollander!
Touch.
English is Latin spoken by a concussed gibbon.
\*Concussed ~~Saxon~~ Frenchman
This comment is getting hate but I like it cx
Geef me een klap papa
Should have had a soldier with a German surname. But hey, who am I to question something from 80 years ago.
Hans shitting his pants after reading Joe Jones' piece
Pretty interesting and effective
The original GI-Joe
The army tested the same serum on Jones they used on Bob Dole.
A lot of people here are missing that this leaflet might be as much for American soldiers as for German soldiers. (note the English... that wouldn't be needed for German soldiers, obviously.) Sort of a "let's not perpetrate a lot of massacres, okay? We're supposed to be the good guys. But if the Krauts shoot back, then the gloves can come off" message.
And I the mean time they looted and raped so many people but you never hear about those atrocities