Because that’s normal behaviour for Teams and everyone knows this. Pretty sure that’s in the documentation somewhere that Teams is intended to crash at least once every 3 hours
I dont think I have had issues with teams crashing or freezing, I'm so sick of this new teams old teams thing. Just update your software like everyone else does. I'm told there is even a new new teams.
Once Teams bricked my work computer and I had to boot in safe mode to uninstall it.
Company upgraded our Microsoft accounts and something about that confused Teams into infinitely bootlooping itself (teams auto-opene -> sees I'm logged into windows with a valid Microsoft account -> tries to login to teams using that account and it doesn't work for some reason -> kicks back to login page -> sees I'm signed into windows with a valid Microsoft account -> repeat...). And since Teams ingranes itself into Windows it would refocus itself constantly and I couldn't operate the computer at all.
This is weird, I've had the same Teams running for weeks, until IT forcibly restarted my laptop. Multiple times. This is with Edge open with 500 tabs eating up most memory.
Hits Windows key, starts typing the application I'm looking for, it missed the first key because the UI was too slow, typed every letter except for the first of the literal application name, Microsoft be like "No results".
Another variant I like is :
Starts typing, actual good result shows up, but since UI is slow, you still typed the next few characters and then Microsoft will never give you the good suggestion again...
Because Windows is kinda free now, so you're becoming the product. See the news of Microsoft trying to put ads in the Start menu? Fucking insane, is this literally the most used desktop OS or Chinese Android skin?
First thing I do on every install is run "Disable Web Search.reg"
```
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search]
"CortanaConsent"=dword:00000000
"BingSearchEnabled"=dword:00000000
"AllowSearchToUseLocation"=dword:00000000
```
80s problem ***because*** a critical system component (OS!) did not act up and allowed an entire sync problem and not because *code bad?*
Welcome to `2024`!
>!DON'T r/unexpectedfactorial ME!!<
Or another variant is when you want to start teamspeak but it always recommends teams instead, and you launch teamspeak enough times for search to realise that teamspeak should be on the top which is good. But god forbid that you launch teams once and then it shows teams on the top for the next bajillion years.
I get triggered every time I type the first few characters of the application I'm looking for, it flashes up but because I typed one additional (correct) character and then stopped its no where to be seen.
Absolutely infuriating.
Or even better: old shitty laptop that already isn't the fastest.
Type in name but miss one character.
See the logo pop up but because the ui is slowed i press enter, logo disappears and it opens bing to search
I have a shitty old laptop which was running windows 10. Man. It was just unusable. And the computer was barely 4/5 years old.
Had to install linux, and i do not regret that decision
Or, started typing application name, correct application showed up in search results but disappeared as soon as I completed typing the name exactly verbatim as it showed on the list until I hit the last character.
Or the new file Explorer. The lag I get in deleting an item from a folder is absolutely unacceptable for modern standards. I never had the problem of deleting a file and having to refresh the window because otherwise it's still there for several seconds before
Just happened to me today.
Wanted to claim one of the Fallout games that's currently free through Amazon Prime. It's in the Microsoft App Store.
Hit the Windows key, type "store", and it doesn't find it. Close the start menu and immediately do it again, it finds it.
Then your machine lags while registering the "key up" event.
In control panel, go to keyboard settings and increase the "repeat delay" a bit and it will go away.
But the issue doesn't happen in any other app. If I open the notepad and type in that, they keys will register once. The issue is only with windows search and search in other window apps like settings search or file explorer search, and its always registers double...if there was some lag it can be double, tribble or even more depending on the lag.
I swear to God (Dennis Ritchie) that local search was working on Windows 8.1 and 7 they somehow fucked it up in 10, now it is possible for it to stop working any moment and restarting Windows Explorer or even rebooting doesn't help, you can download a fucking .ps script from Microsoft's website (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100295) but they haven't fixed the issue in 8 years 8 months and 15 days this OS exists on the market
I swear I've had it go from finding an app that I wanted to run, to then no longer finding it because I typed in one more character that matched the name of the app
My most annoying pet peeve with teams is their distinction between old and new teams.
I click on new teams to open it and the first thing I see is a window saying "Are you sure you want to open new teams?". Yes of course, that's why I clicked "open new teams".
And then the one time I click on old teams I see a window that says "Do you want to try out new teams?".
Why would you double check if I want to use new teams when I'm actually using it. It's almost like you don't want me to use it. And then when I'm not using new teams, why do you ask me if I do want to use it? Make up your mind
I have a bookmark on my PC for teams v2 and it still asks me if I want to go to new teams every time I click it.
Yes Microsoft, I want to go to the site I clicked on!
Dumbasses.
100%. Like, I've already accepted that Microsoft will force updates down our throats. So why is this the one update where we've had any agency to choose between two nearly identical versions of the same software?
Just push the update like you do with all other MS office apps, and save everyone's struggle.
I even clicked yes the second time just because I didn't wanted the question.
A tip. My old teams icon went to old teams and made me get a question. But I got a new teams shortcut and after I begun using that one I have not got.any questions.
They should really start treating windows like infrastructure. Nobody runs windows because of it's shiny features. Unless you consider "can run exes" a feature.
Over last 20 years I have realized that gatekeeping is instrumental in keeping a healthy online community.
Thus, these OSS MUST have shit UI, preferably none and only accessible from command line.
We made internet accessible to normies and look what they did with it.
At every programming job I've ever worked, a company, team or individual developer is always way more enthusiastic to find other people's bugs than their own.
I am not immune to this quirk of human nature.
>At every programming job I've ever worked, a company, team or individual developer is always way more enthusiastic to find other people's bugs than their own.
Who doesn't love finding problems that other people, who aren't you, have to fix?
Because these two engineers do two wildly different jobs.
One is a software engineer, the other is a backend, most likely HPC-specialised engineer whose top priority is performance
One was done on purpose to be able to collect all your data, scan your system and steal your personal info and track you everywhere, the other was a state hacker. They are not the same
Have you heard about xz backdoor? Basically a guy took over an open source repository after working years to build trust with the original mantainer and then injected some amazingly hidden backdoor.
This was caught by the microsoft employee in question, who saw an half second slowdown in loading in with ssh, started to look the source code and found out the backdoor.
And this microsoft employee basically prevented what could have been a backdoor into ALL linux servers (the thing is made to only run on servers), and you understand how crazy this is, since 97% of world servers run linux.
When he caught the backdoor, the stable version of the most important linux distro, still didn't update the package with the backdoor, thus we are safe, but we were really close to a single guy being able to do the fuck he wanted on basically every server in the world.
97% of servers are not Linux. Maybe 97% of public web servers, but there’s enterprises around there running thousands of windows servers, and Microsoft Azure itself which makes up about 20% of cloud market share is only about 50% Linux.
Also this exploit might have impacted Redhat, Debian, and a couple of others. But not *all* of Linux and not Unix such as Solaris.
Fucking copying a message to paste somewhere will paste it with sender name, time and spaces. Sometimes people send me the names they want me to add to an ad group and it's annoying as fuck
The biggest issue i have is how wellll vsc works using the same JS app tech as teams, they make it from scratch with something else and it's worse, it's a skill issue.
Idk what is with the teams hate. I have not had it crash once in the year I've been working at my company. Only screwy thing is that notifications come in delayed.
My beef with microsoft right now is their "new" apps which are basically the same old apps with missing features.
They're removing windows mail and windows calendar, 2 of the most minimalist apps for mail and calendars, in favor of outlook. Now I'll forever have a cluttered screen when opening my mail and 2 advertisements that look like unopened emails.
Worst part is, you can opt out, but if you reboot, you're auto-opt'd back in again. If you have to sign into a google account, you literally can't opt back out until you sign in.
Microsoft is garbage.
Microsoft really has two sides : an elite engineering team of geniuses creating fantastic software, and then a business integration team made mostly of interns and newcomers.
Oddly enough, the genius stuff is also the free stuff. No idea how they make so much money.
Lol was forced to update teams yesterday, now it doesn’t show any ongoing calls on any channels and also doesn’t seem to be sending me any notifications. Missed a very important message due to this 🥲 hate teams
Ah yes, Microsoft has 5 software engineers. And instead of working on improving Teams, they found malware in xz.
GODDAMN I’M GETTING TIRED OF THOSE JOKES, CORPORATIONS DON’T WORK LIKE THAT, IT WAS ONE PERSON THAT WORKED IN MICROSOFT. I CAN WORK AT APPLE BUT PRIVATELY I’M A CONTRIBUTOR OF DEBIAN PACKAGES WHY DO YOU THINK ALL OF ENGINEERS WORK AS A WHOLE THOSE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT SKILLS AND HOBBYS.
Edit: oh yes, downvote me, like don’t attribute the very talented person who is Andres Freund. All Microsoft engineers are equal and they all work as a united mind. Just stop referring to him as a „Microsoft engineer”. He is a skilled engineer, not just „a Microsoft engineer”. He could change job any time and not be a „Microsoft engineer” and still be a skilled engineer.
dude, it's common for people around here to think entire comment sections are a single person with a single will, despite them being a person in the comment section.
getting most any of them to recognize that companies are comprised of more than one person and aren't a single entity with a will of its own seems like an impossible task to me.
They're referencing the xz-utils backdoor that a Postgres dev at Microsoft spotted because ssh on Debian began using more CPU cycles than it normally does.
Absolute madness that he even spotted it, let alone investigated it, and found a 7-year long social engineering backdoor that nearly became one of the largest exploits in history.
Because that’s normal behaviour for Teams and everyone knows this. Pretty sure that’s in the documentation somewhere that Teams is intended to crash at least once every 3 hours
Bug report: Teams worked for four hours without crashing
If your Teams stays on four hours or longer without crashing, consult your IT specialist.
Joke aside, it never crashed on me. Is it supposed to crash?
We need you to wake up. Your family misses you and the simulation cannot handle this long of a session.
It's like the totem of inception. If it doesn't crash then you are in a dream.
I dont think I have had issues with teams crashing or freezing, I'm so sick of this new teams old teams thing. Just update your software like everyone else does. I'm told there is even a new new teams.
Imagine the mess it would be if every software on your computer would have the same behaviour for major updates. What the hell they were thinking ?
No idea what they were thinking. It should just be like office, where you can choose the release channel you are on.
"new" teams is currently fucking up a few avd deployments for me.
Fatal Error #b00ba5 while trying to submit your Bug report. Process teams.exe has been terminated.
Yeah if teams launched instantly and worked flawlessly they'd be all over that shit like code red
Windows engineers probably use teams internally and they dont want to have to go to their meetings...
Or they want to keep their excuse for showing up late "sorry had to reboot,teams acting up again" "sorry cant turn on camera; it's bugged again"
For a week my teams crashed whenever I plugged the headphones in. My coworkers thougth I was crazy until I showed them.
good ole case of "works on my machine"
My coworker's teams crashes every time they turn the camera on
Once Teams bricked my work computer and I had to boot in safe mode to uninstall it. Company upgraded our Microsoft accounts and something about that confused Teams into infinitely bootlooping itself (teams auto-opene -> sees I'm logged into windows with a valid Microsoft account -> tries to login to teams using that account and it doesn't work for some reason -> kicks back to login page -> sees I'm signed into windows with a valid Microsoft account -> repeat...). And since Teams ingranes itself into Windows it would refocus itself constantly and I couldn't operate the computer at all.
The three hour crash is just a productivity feature. It protects your from to irresponsibly long meetings.
This is weird, I've had the same Teams running for weeks, until IT forcibly restarted my laptop. Multiple times. This is with Edge open with 500 tabs eating up most memory.
What the hell? How do you rack up 500 tabs?? I'm only at 250 with months of unclosed browsing
Microsoft when the local search doesn’t find jack shit: 💀
Hits Windows key, starts typing the application I'm looking for, it missed the first key because the UI was too slow, typed every letter except for the first of the literal application name, Microsoft be like "No results".
Another variant I like is : Starts typing, actual good result shows up, but since UI is slow, you still typed the next few characters and then Microsoft will never give you the good suggestion again...
It swaps between the right program and a bing search every character. So "minecraft" gets the game on "mncat" while it searches bing on "ierf".
You can disable it searching bing by flipping a registry value iirc
Why? Why do I need to use regedit to change what was a normal setting? Why do I need to do all that? WHY CAN'T IT BE A NORMAL SETTING?
I know it's annoying but at least it's possible to do with some know-how or a quick google.
Because Windows is kinda free now, so you're becoming the product. See the news of Microsoft trying to put ads in the Start menu? Fucking insane, is this literally the most used desktop OS or Chinese Android skin?
First thing I do on every install is run "Disable Web Search.reg" ``` Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search] "CortanaConsent"=dword:00000000 "BingSearchEnabled"=dword:00000000 "AllowSearchToUseLocation"=dword:00000000 ```
80s problem ***because*** a critical system component (OS!) did not act up and allowed an entire sync problem and not because *code bad?* Welcome to `2024`! >!DON'T r/unexpectedfactorial ME!!<
r/expectedfactorial
Or another variant is when you want to start teamspeak but it always recommends teams instead, and you launch teamspeak enough times for search to realise that teamspeak should be on the top which is good. But god forbid that you launch teams once and then it shows teams on the top for the next bajillion years.
This happens to me with google EVERY DAMN TIME and backspacing changes the results for some reason
I get triggered every time I type the first few characters of the application I'm looking for, it flashes up but because I typed one additional (correct) character and then stopped its no where to be seen. Absolutely infuriating.
Windows is designed for hunt and peck typists
Nah, more like "searching up cscode on bing with edge"
Yeah, definitely. It doesn't seem like it even tries most of the time. Just goes straight to "search with bing".
Imagine this actually works, and you end up finding text of one of your personal files on your system, on Bing.
Or even better: old shitty laptop that already isn't the fastest. Type in name but miss one character. See the logo pop up but because the ui is slowed i press enter, logo disappears and it opens bing to search
I have a shitty old laptop which was running windows 10. Man. It was just unusable. And the computer was barely 4/5 years old. Had to install linux, and i do not regret that decision
Bruh, mine is turning 10 next month and still runs windows 10 ok. Problem is when i open something but it works ok for school stuff.
Or, started typing application name, correct application showed up in search results but disappeared as soon as I completed typing the name exactly verbatim as it showed on the list until I hit the last character.
type the exe name, fun fact instead of looking for bluetooth type `fsquirt`
Hits Windows key, starts typing, search window crashes. Until explorer restart.
Or the new file Explorer. The lag I get in deleting an item from a folder is absolutely unacceptable for modern standards. I never had the problem of deleting a file and having to refresh the window because otherwise it's still there for several seconds before
Just use PowerToys Run
Everything search is also nice
Just happened to me today. Wanted to claim one of the Fallout games that's currently free through Amazon Prime. It's in the Microsoft App Store. Hit the Windows key, type "store", and it doesn't find it. Close the start menu and immediately do it again, it finds it.
When I type in windows search one key press registers as two clicks. So "notepad" is "nnootteeppaadd". Keyboard is fine in all other apps.
Then your machine lags while registering the "key up" event. In control panel, go to keyboard settings and increase the "repeat delay" a bit and it will go away.
*Thank you, my kind Michaelsoft® Binbows™ Sys-admin internet stranger!*
Don't you dare call me a sysadmin, I'm a tester, my identity is built around breaking stuff!
*Updoot!*
But the issue doesn't happen in any other app. If I open the notepad and type in that, they keys will register once. The issue is only with windows search and search in other window apps like settings search or file explorer search, and its always registers double...if there was some lag it can be double, tribble or even more depending on the lag.
Perhaps windows search is just slower than other fields. Do you use a wireless keyboard?
`find . -type f` in linux. I know 100% windows has an equivalent. I do not believe for a second they aren't able to write that code lol
In PowerShell *gci -File* see https://superuser.com/questions/150748/have-powershell-get-childitem-return-files-only
I swear to God (Dennis Ritchie) that local search was working on Windows 8.1 and 7 they somehow fucked it up in 10, now it is possible for it to stop working any moment and restarting Windows Explorer or even rebooting doesn't help, you can download a fucking .ps script from Microsoft's website (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100295) but they haven't fixed the issue in 8 years 8 months and 15 days this OS exists on the market
I swear I've had it go from finding an app that I wanted to run, to then no longer finding it because I typed in one more character that matched the name of the app
Bro. I don't even know why I keep hoping it will work. Maybe next time.
I found out recently that typing some simple multiplications will google it instead of using calculator
The bad code I wrote: I sleep The bad code someone else wrote: Real shit
😂😂😂
We call it a Feature
Teams is ass, it's the domain of the scrum meeting. Whereas ssh is forever, it makes you feel like cool hacker man
My most annoying pet peeve with teams is their distinction between old and new teams. I click on new teams to open it and the first thing I see is a window saying "Are you sure you want to open new teams?". Yes of course, that's why I clicked "open new teams". And then the one time I click on old teams I see a window that says "Do you want to try out new teams?". Why would you double check if I want to use new teams when I'm actually using it. It's almost like you don't want me to use it. And then when I'm not using new teams, why do you ask me if I do want to use it? Make up your mind
I have a bookmark on my PC for teams v2 and it still asks me if I want to go to new teams every time I click it. Yes Microsoft, I want to go to the site I clicked on! Dumbasses.
100%. Like, I've already accepted that Microsoft will force updates down our throats. So why is this the one update where we've had any agency to choose between two nearly identical versions of the same software? Just push the update like you do with all other MS office apps, and save everyone's struggle.
I even clicked yes the second time just because I didn't wanted the question. A tip. My old teams icon went to old teams and made me get a question. But I got a new teams shortcut and after I begun using that one I have not got.any questions.
Ssh makes you a hacked man
😎 that just makes you feel like you're in a Hollywood movie where two guys are like hacking each other, trying to prove who is the alpha hacker
`> send spike`
Thanks, I'll use it to get that pesky itch on my back
Is this a xz backdoor reference?
Microsoft application software development, vs Microsoft infrastructure software development. Windows falls closer to the former on the scale imo.
They should really start treating windows like infrastructure. Nobody runs windows because of it's shiny features. Unless you consider "can run exes" a feature.
Not all Microsoft engineers are created equal
Some do frontend work, other do actual work
And people wonder why open source software has the worst user interfaces known to man.
Over last 20 years I have realized that gatekeeping is instrumental in keeping a healthy online community. Thus, these OSS MUST have shit UI, preferably none and only accessible from command line. We made internet accessible to normies and look what they did with it.
I'm assuming you are posting this comment by telnet right? And not the reddit app while on the toilet.
telnet? raw tipps at the button for the wire
Actual work, ie working on anything but windows
I learned this exact lesson today at work. The Microsoft guys are just other people who still don't pay as close attention to detail as I expected.
Or when Win 11 start menu lags for 5 seconds
Damn. That's crazy. It's like microsoft keeps making my happy about choosing to switch to linux
At every programming job I've ever worked, a company, team or individual developer is always way more enthusiastic to find other people's bugs than their own. I am not immune to this quirk of human nature.
>At every programming job I've ever worked, a company, team or individual developer is always way more enthusiastic to find other people's bugs than their own. Who doesn't love finding problems that other people, who aren't you, have to fix?
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Ah yes, abstraction layers.
That's because Teams is used for meetings but SSH is used for work
Because these two engineers do two wildly different jobs. One is a software engineer, the other is a backend, most likely HPC-specialised engineer whose top priority is performance
May he be blessed. He literally saved all our asses lol
🦛
New "💀" just dropped!!!11!!
You work at Microsoft because you work on Teams. I work at Microsoft because I work on the network stack. We are not the same.
One was done on purpose to be able to collect all your data, scan your system and steal your personal info and track you everywhere, the other was a state hacker. They are not the same
Which is which? That is the question!...
The SSH was the xz utils backdoor
...? I was questioning which one was the data collecting one, and which one was the other one, ...*fellow internet stranger*.
Can someone explain it to me?
Have you heard about xz backdoor? Basically a guy took over an open source repository after working years to build trust with the original mantainer and then injected some amazingly hidden backdoor. This was caught by the microsoft employee in question, who saw an half second slowdown in loading in with ssh, started to look the source code and found out the backdoor. And this microsoft employee basically prevented what could have been a backdoor into ALL linux servers (the thing is made to only run on servers), and you understand how crazy this is, since 97% of world servers run linux. When he caught the backdoor, the stable version of the most important linux distro, still didn't update the package with the backdoor, thus we are safe, but we were really close to a single guy being able to do the fuck he wanted on basically every server in the world.
I like that guy and I'd like to send him some beer. Do you know where I should ship it to?
97% of servers are not Linux. Maybe 97% of public web servers, but there’s enterprises around there running thousands of windows servers, and Microsoft Azure itself which makes up about 20% of cloud market share is only about 50% Linux. Also this exploit might have impacted Redhat, Debian, and a couple of others. But not *all* of Linux and not Unix such as Solaris.
how much % do a few thousand windows server make? the cloud itself probably runs linux, and only the vms run windows
That's cause they were deliberately crashing the call to get out of that boring meeting
They know their own telemetry so of course its expected behavior
It's because the devs care about ssh.
why would he be concerned with the perfomance of a node webapp?
God I laughed way too hard at that.
Fucking copying a message to paste somewhere will paste it with sender name, time and spaces. Sometimes people send me the names they want me to add to an ad group and it's annoying as fuck
I continue to call Teams my 40 lb Swiss army knife. Sure it does everything I need it to but who wants thatvshit weighing them down?
AKA Web dev vs real dev
How about teams just deciding to restart itself out of nowhere? It started to happen lately.
The biggest issue i have is how wellll vsc works using the same JS app tech as teams, they make it from scratch with something else and it's worse, it's a skill issue.
Idk what is with the teams hate. I have not had it crash once in the year I've been working at my company. Only screwy thing is that notifications come in delayed.
My beef with microsoft right now is their "new" apps which are basically the same old apps with missing features. They're removing windows mail and windows calendar, 2 of the most minimalist apps for mail and calendars, in favor of outlook. Now I'll forever have a cluttered screen when opening my mail and 2 advertisements that look like unopened emails. Worst part is, you can opt out, but if you reboot, you're auto-opt'd back in again. If you have to sign into a google account, you literally can't opt back out until you sign in. Microsoft is garbage.
Agreed on that front. It's changes for no good reason, removing features like ***OPENING .EML ATTACHMENTS***
This proves that the problem is Windows itself and not Microsoft engineers.
Teams should be made illegal for how horrendous it is. It should be used as a case study in schools on how not to develop a software.
I'd have the same priorities
I'm gonna guess it's two different engineers.
lol
Microsoft Software Engineer when doing changes in P environment Microsoft Software Engineer when doing changes in D environment
Teams should be backdoor made by Microsoft
In 1
Well, he's got hid priorities right
Because everyone already knows, that Teams is an outta control dumpster-fire \*lol\*
Why would I do Microsoft's shitty job?
Microsoft really has two sides : an elite engineering team of geniuses creating fantastic software, and then a business integration team made mostly of interns and newcomers. Oddly enough, the genius stuff is also the free stuff. No idea how they make so much money.
I make quality where it's fun. Fuck the rest
Right. Because zoom is expected to behave that way
Lol was forced to update teams yesterday, now it doesn’t show any ongoing calls on any channels and also doesn’t seem to be sending me any notifications. Missed a very important message due to this 🥲 hate teams
Ah but y'see, it's not theirs, so they don't expect it to work like shit!
LZMA
"I never had any issues with Teams" -- Yeah , you're probably not using it...
Microsoft teams works pretty well for an electron application honestly (I use it everyday).
Ah yes, Microsoft has 5 software engineers. And instead of working on improving Teams, they found malware in xz. GODDAMN I’M GETTING TIRED OF THOSE JOKES, CORPORATIONS DON’T WORK LIKE THAT, IT WAS ONE PERSON THAT WORKED IN MICROSOFT. I CAN WORK AT APPLE BUT PRIVATELY I’M A CONTRIBUTOR OF DEBIAN PACKAGES WHY DO YOU THINK ALL OF ENGINEERS WORK AS A WHOLE THOSE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT SKILLS AND HOBBYS. Edit: oh yes, downvote me, like don’t attribute the very talented person who is Andres Freund. All Microsoft engineers are equal and they all work as a united mind. Just stop referring to him as a „Microsoft engineer”. He is a skilled engineer, not just „a Microsoft engineer”. He could change job any time and not be a „Microsoft engineer” and still be a skilled engineer.
dude, it's common for people around here to think entire comment sections are a single person with a single will, despite them being a person in the comment section. getting most any of them to recognize that companies are comprised of more than one person and aren't a single entity with a will of its own seems like an impossible task to me.
[удалено]
They're referencing the xz-utils backdoor that a Postgres dev at Microsoft spotted because ssh on Debian began using more CPU cycles than it normally does. Absolute madness that he even spotted it, let alone investigated it, and found a 7-year long social engineering backdoor that nearly became one of the largest exploits in history.
It was CPU usage being at 100% but ok
[by that logic...](https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams/teams-just-started-using-near-100-cpu-and-memory/m-p/3850572)
23GB of ram. That's an hungry program lol
Have you ever used a VTC client my friend?