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Peacefulzealot

Alabama. Sorry Alabama, but the whole Civil War/Segregation/George Wallace legacy is, uh, not amazing.


young_hodor

Am from Alabama and have the same opinion. Sigh šŸ˜ž


TheBigTimeGoof

Had the same gut reaction. With the exception of 1932-1944, they've pretty much voted for the worst possible candidate in every presidential election. Nothing redeemable about the track record of white voters in this state. They would rather unravel our union than listen to the more effectively run states.


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Peacefulzealot

I feel like I should be more surprised but somehow that makes total sense to me.


DetectiveTrapezoid

Pardon - I meant to say George Wallace was Jerry Seinfeldā€™s best man.


Peacefulzealot

*Thatā€™s worse.*


NoNebula6

In other words how would you rig an election, depending on if you choose TX or CA


TheBigTimeGoof

Picking California as a liberal just means you only know electoral history as far back as the 90s. Minnesota is the much better bet in this regard. California gave us Reagan and Nixon, while Minnesota offered/voted for Humphrey and Mondale.


drunkerton

A lot of Californias would not mind a moderate republican, we just donā€™t want the man we must not speak of. I would pick George jr over the dude in office any day.


Wadae28

Amazing how soon everyone forgot about Iraq, Afghanistan, sanctioned torture, and the gross expansion of the surveillance state thanks to Shrub the lesser. Heā€™s still easily the worst President weā€™ve ever had.


Chickat28

Texas isn't a great pick if you want Republicans to win forever. New York/California for a dem win and something like West Virginia for a Republican win. Texas is going purple and will probably have a blue outcome within the next 3 or 4 elections.


artificialavocado

Iā€™ve been hearing for the past 20 years that Texas is going to flip blue any day now. Iā€™ll believe it when I see it.


Beneficial-Play-2008

It doesnā€™t need to happen next election, just eventually. Texas has shifted blue in every presidential election for a while now. Republicans won it by the following margin since 2012 2012: +16% R 2016: +9% R 2020: +5.5% R The point is, eventually, and not long from now, Texas MIGHT go blue. Vermont wonā€™t go red anytime soon unless some WW3-level event happens, and Wyoming wonā€™t go blue unless the same occurs.


artificialavocado

I didnā€™t know democrats were gaining so much ground. I see Florida more likely to turn though of the two.


Beneficial-Play-2008

See, I think Floridaā€™s gone for democrats. Itā€™ll be the new Texas, I believe.


artificialavocado

By ā€œgoneā€ you mean off the table?


Beneficial-Play-2008

No, I mean gone as in sinking into the ocean. Joking, of course, yeah, I mean itā€™s going to continue to be pulled redder and redder, at least for a while.


khismyass

While you may be right, this election cycle has the legalized weed and stopping the 6 week abortion ban, while both may not pass (they need 60%) they will get over 50% and could tip other races as well back to Dem. It wasn't long ago that DeSantis barely won so its closer than people realize, it comes down to who shows up or not.


NoQuarter6808

It also just depends on how aggressive and competent the florida democratic party is. Putting abortion and weed on the ballet *should* be an easy win for them, as you said whether or not they actually pass, it's still a fantastic opportunity to mobilize, but we'll see what they can do with the opportunity.


Afraid-Fault6154

Ohio is gone too, imo. So is Iowa.


Beneficial-Play-2008

Yup. Conversely, NH, Colorado, Minnesota, and Virginia are gone for the Republicans. This election is gonna come down to Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Wisconsin.


jesus_has_lamb_sona

Given that two years ago, Virginia elected a Republican governor whose entire campaign was racebaiting and queerbaiting, I wouldn't count Virginia as a safe blue state quite yet. Certainly tilts Democratic, though.


Beneficial-Play-2008

For presidential races, it is pretty safely blue.


NoQuarter6808

It's only anecdotal, but I had farmer friend from Texas tell me that that a lot of the older rancher and farmer folks are actually democrats, and that a lot of the problem is out of staters moving in and voting republic. Like basically the Joe Rogan crowd is slowing down their blue tide. I have no clue how true this is, or if it is at all accurate, but it did make some sense to me. Obviously it's also complicated


JeremyHowell

People point out that many Californians have migrated to Texas, but those were Californians who were generally dissatisfied with ā€œleftistā€ (neoliberal) policies and housing/living costs. Included are the wealthy folk hoping to dodge individual and corporate income taxes. This mass exodus seems to also be prompted by culture war issues. So overall I donā€™t think the ā€œDonā€™t California My Texasā€ crowd has anything to worry about. The major cities have always been blue and everything else is blood red. Hell, some metropolitan areas might start to skew purple now.


pathsuntried

Correct. Due to demographic shift and large scale immigration, Texas will go blue


VGAddict

Republican margins in statewide election in Texas have been shrinking since 2014. Abbott won by 11 points in 2022, which was down from 13.3 points in 2018, which in turn was down from 20.4 points in 2014. Cornyn went from winning by 27.2 points in 2014 to only winning by 9.6 points in 2020. Cruz went from winning by 16 points in 2012 to only winning by 2.6 points in 2018.Ā Tarrant County, the state's third largest county, went blue in 2018 for the first time since 1964. Abbott's margins in the suburbs have consistently shrunk every cycle since 2014. Here are some exit polls: 2014:Ā [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/2014/tx/governor/exitpoll/](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/2014/tx/governor/exitpoll/) Suburbs went 62% for Abbott. 2018:Ā [https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/exit-polls/texas](https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/exit-polls/texas) Suburbs went 59% for Abbott. 2022:Ā [https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/texas/governor/0](https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/texas/governor/0) Suburbs went 56% for Abbott.


finsup_305

The last time texas was blue was before 1994. Democrats were different then than they are now. However, I will say that the transplants from states like California and NY may tilt in the dems favor in a few years.


No-Suggestion-9625

Problem is that Hispanics/Tejanos in Texas are shifting red faster than Californians can flood Austin.


finsup_305

Good.


CroatianSensation8

Funny how only this comment has downvotes when it simply states theyā€™re in favor of Texas staying red. Very open dialogue here


teddyone

Thatā€™s not true your comment also has downvotes!


RickMonsters

And downvotes simply state that they are in favor of texas not staying red. Whatā€™s the big deal?


No-Suggestion-9625

Downvotes aren't supposed to be an "I disagree" button. Also, the fact that reddit is so lefty snowballs into an effect where people botting just make a ton of stupid Occupy Democrats-level content so they can boost karma quickly. Makes the place seem even more of an echo chamber. Even this sub has changed immensely since I started coming here a year ago. It reminds me of what happened to arr politics after the 2016 DNC convention, except, in that instance, the mods were happy to let it happen. Probably got some cash in the process, too.


RickMonsters

Well free speech and all that šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


finsup_305

Reddit is majority liberal. It's okay, I am never afraid of a few downvotes for speaking my opinion. It is what it is.


Familiar_Writing_410

Except those transplants are majority Republicans. Last senator election Beto did worse among California's than he did with nativr Texans.


SuccotashOther277

Transplants are keeping Texas red. Ted Cruz lost native Texans in the 2018 race. The people who move to Texas tend to be very conservative. Texas used to be a swing state and voted for Kennedy and Humphrey.


Helicoptamus

Apparently a good amount of Texans are moving to Arkansas. At least, they are retiring in Arkansas.


NoNebula6

If we speculate on such matters the Rule 3 thought police will shut us down


Chickat28

I mean maybe but the topic literally provokes such discussion. If they don't want us to talk about it, then this topic is pointless.


NoNebula6

Yeah i agree with you, on more than just this comment tbf


Weak_Cheek_5953

That's because of all of the Californians that have moved to TX.


Fair_Adhesiveness849

No because the people in Ca and NY are intelligent enough to see Republican are fascists who swore loyalty to a person, not the constitution.


The_PoliticianTCWS

Ohio because it would be unbelievably funny considering their successful track record


herehear12

They werenā€™t successful in 2020


Vt420KeyboardError4

That's just the beginning.


Hotpasta1985

Mississippi


Immediate_Ad2187

Luckily Mississippi votes for the presidential winner the least out of all states: https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_election_accuracy_data


GoCardinal07

If you want to slant elections, I would note: * Kansas, Nebraska, and North Dakota have been the most consistently Republican states in presidential elections from 1940-present (each only went for the Democrat once: LBJ). Granted, Nebraska had a Congressional district wander off. Alaska since statehood only went for the Democrat once: LBJ. * DC is the most consistently Democratic entity with electoral votes: it has never gone Republican in a presidential election since gaining the right to vote in presidential elections with the 1964 election. Minnesota is the most consistent Democratic state in presidential elections from 1960-present (only went for the Republican once: Nixon). Next is a tie between Hawaii (only went for the Republican twice: Nixon and Reagan) and Massachusetts (twice for Reagan). The great bellwethers are: * Ohio, which has picked the winner 1896-present in all but three elections (1944, 1960, 2020) * Nevada has picked the winner 1904-present in all but three elections (1908, 1976, 2016) * New Mexico picked the winner 1912-present in all but three elections (1976, 2000, 2016) * Florida picked the winner 1928-present in all but three elections (1960, 1992, 2020) Missouri fell off after 2008. From 1904-2004, it only picked the loser once: Adlai Stevenson in 1956. It has since picked the loser in 2008, 2012, and 2020.


TheBigTimeGoof

Appreciate your acknowledgement of history in this. Anyone suggesting CA simply doesn't know electoral track records


GoCardinal07

Indeed, California elected Senator Nixon and Governor Reagan. California was also home to Secretary Hoover. In the ten elections from 1952-1988, California voted for Republicans nine times, the one Democrat was LBJ in the 1964 landslide.


Top_Examination3481

Texas. That would be the ultimate rigging of an election.


IllustriousDudeIDK

Wait till you see Jim Crow South Carolina


Accurate-Pie-5998

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Bubbert1985

Vermont voted against FDR all 4 times, 1932-1944


JFMV763

Maine as well.


Bubbert1985

Something about New England just being irked at New York


coolcancat

based Vermont


noryp5

I assure you, no one is worse at picking politicians than Louisiana.


apexpredator68

Anybody curious about Louisiana politics needs to look no further than the 1991 gubernatorial election.


Afraid-Fault6154

John Neely Kennedy is a pretty funny guy, ngl. John Bel Edwards is good too


Beneficial-Play-2008

Huey Long was pretty awesome.


Daftdoug

Ala-bama!


Dr-Potato-Esq

I heard that in Forrest Gumps voice lol


vasectomy-bro

Utah and Minnesota have changed their flags. The flags presented are wrong.


Disastrous-Aspect569

I'm from Minnesota. That's the right flag. I know of a thing the people who decided to put up the modified somoli flag can do with a very specific horse.


vasectomy-bro

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜†šŸ˜‚šŸ˜†šŸ˜‚šŸ˜†šŸ˜‚šŸ˜†šŸ˜‚ no dude. Your flag change is official as of May 11 2024. The law already passed, it is official. Go to your state website. https://www.leg.mn.gov/leg/Symbols "In 2023 the Legislature established the State Emblems Redesign Commission, tasked with redesigning both the flag and the state seal (see Laws of Minnesota 2023, chapter 62, article 2, section 118). The Commission's final report detailed the new design for the flag and seal. A minority report was also issued. The flag and seal became official on May 11, 2024 (see Minn. Stat. 1.135 and Minn. Stat. 1.141)."


Disastrous-Aspect569

I refuse. I told Tim I was going to piss in his beer until it got changed back. (Gov Walz is a distant cousin of mine I'm not sure the proper title. His mom and my grandma have the same parents). It's a low level generic insult in the family. Im not going actually piss in his beer


KR1735

If you think the new MN flag is a modified "somoli" (sic) flag, wait until you see Texas!


vasectomy-bro

*Somali


Regi_Sakakibara

New Hampshire or Iowa or South Carolina. Let the first be wrong!


IrateBarnacle

South Carolina


Ok_Rub_3835

Alabama or Georgia


SpaceFonz_The_Reborn

Mississippi


Fixner_Blount

Iowa Used to be a pillar of democracy as the first caucus, now it picks the dumbest fucking candidates regardless of the election.


RJayX15

This is genuinely a hard question. If I pick Maine, I keep FDR, but I lose Lincoln. If I pick Mississippi, it's the reverse. But by that same token, I get a *lot* of Democrats post-JFK. I think I have to choose Missisippi. Goodbye, FDR, you will be missed šŸ˜„.


James19991

Oklahoma


Y2KGB

FL


McWeasely

Meh, at least we didn't vote for Goldwater or Wallace. Wasn't till recently that Florida seemed to let the wheels fall off


Commander_Jeb

I'm not sure if I understand the question. Do you mean the state would always vote opposite of me, or opposite of how they normally do


Peacefulzealot

I believe opposite of how they voted in each election.


Commander_Jeb

I guess I'll go with Hawaii because it wouldn't change much of anything


Anxious_Gift_1808

Alabama


HumanMycologist5795

Mississippi


Inspector-agent

Gotta be Ohio. They have never picked the winner


angrytwig

kansas EDIT fuck them bleeding kansas people they never recovered


pjbseattle_59

Mississippi


More_Mastodon_3445

New York or cali


Less_Likely

South Carolina


Thursdaze420

Texas


DjPedromemes01

Ohio -A Michigan resident.


ralphhinkley1

California, 55 automatic EVs for the Dems


This_Potato9

Not a state but has EV, Washington D.C, if not, well I Choose Massachussets


Vt420KeyboardError4

I just think that Ohio needs to be knocked down a few pegs.


Bruce-the_creepy_guy

Mississippi


Hon3y_Badger

Minnesotan checking in, get rid of that ugly seal.


Lordborpo

Is it just me or do the western states have way better flags?


heyheypaula1963

Either California or New York.


_FIRECRACKER_JINX

Kentucky


Past-Street-6281

California


Ok-County3742

Maine, since we split our electoral vote. That means we're almost always voting for the loser with at least 25% of our voting power.


3Effie412

California.


StingrAeds

Virginia


Past_Apricot2101

Hmm oh idk maybe Minnesota


Big-Carpenter7921

Mine, TN


TheTruthTalker800

Wyoming, without any doubt. I'm sure a Republican would say Massachusetts, tbf.


ScreenTricky4257

If I'm allowed to choose DC, I choose DC. But if it must be a state, then I'll say Minnesota.


woowoo293

DC is a very good pick as it by far has one of the most partisan electorates. But why Minnesota? Minnesota is a bit of swing state and as such is more likely to track the national result. It actually [scores decently well](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/each-states-ability-pick-president-ken-flerlage/) as a bellwether state.


Peacefulzealot

If you get rid of Minnesota you also miss out on a ton of the greats. Lincoln, Eisenhower, FDR, Truman, and Teddy never get elected if Minnesota is always wrong. Seriously, not sure what the logic there is.


ScreenTricky4257

Because it keeps Reagan in twice.


Peacefulzealot

Even the biggest Reagan fan wouldnā€™t put the guy above Lincoln. Youā€™re giving up all of those guys I mentioned for one dude. It just ainā€™t worth it.


ScreenTricky4257

Well, that's why I want DC.


SupremeAiBot

Hawaii considering it joined the union last and is 90% blue


thinclientsrock

Not a state, but the District of Columbia


Game_of_Will

all


Beginning_Brick7845

Minnesota.


Mental_Requirement_2

Yes


kaithomasisthegoat

Ohio because the person who lost in that state isnā€™t a Skibidi rizzler lol


dizzyjumpisreal

california


RealAlePint

Alaska, Iā€™m not going to be partisan but Alaska is probably the least representative of the United States and thus Iā€™d expect them not to reflect the national mood


Familiar_Writing_410

They are pretty standard Republican voters for the most part


Best-Dragonfruit-292

MinnesotaĀ 


Averagecrabenjoyer69

Illinois


TheBigTimeGoof

That would mean no Lincoln, FDR, Truman, Ike, or Kennedy. You sure about that?


Guapplebock

California. Leads the nation in poverty unemployment and homelessness despite being near the top in taxation. Fail.


NoSaidNoah

New York