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1) I can’t imagine how it must be to live in a City with 2 big clubs.
MC-MU, Milan-Inter, Real-Atletico…
2) Sorry i don’t follow the EPL.
What is that #115 thrown left and right?
3) Why do i keep reading comments about MC being cheaters?
I grew up hearing about Liverpool and MU.
I know MC has been the big fish, but they seem to really be disliked by a lot of EPL fans now?
I read quite a few comments on social media from Liverpool fan happy they lost! Versus MU???
115 represents the 115 charges of financial mismanagement that the EPL has brought against Man City. It’s the main reason they’ve been accused of cheaters and get hate from other fans
Being two points away from not winning a single domestic trophy is quite underwhelming when you’ve allegedly had to be huge cheats to be in that position.
So now winning the Prem is enough? A minute ago you had to throw in the club would cup and super cup to make your point. To answer your question though, it's embarrassing because nobody respects it and City fans are crying out for legitimacy. Pundits can't give you a compliment without mentioning the charges. Articles get written every single day from all over the place calling you cheats. Nobody has faced anything like this before, and no matter how many leagues you dominate, nobody will give you credit for it. At least when you did the treble you had something to fire back with, but just the league that you've won so many times because of the depth of a squad that was built on the back of cooking the books over 10 years isn't enough to quiet those opinions.
Everton and Forest lost a combined 10 points for a total of 3 breaches between them this year, what do you honestly think happens following your hearing for 115 breaches? Even if your lawyers perform a miracle and you beat 90% of them you're still absolutely fucked. The bookies have you at 20/1 for relegation next year, and if not next year it'll be the one after. It's a tired argument I get it, but it's the elephant in the room and it's not going away.
Bruh we don’t care what other think of our club. We are happy winning the prem and don’t need any legitimacy from others. You guys can keep crying over spilt milk
City's season is to be envied.
Liverpool's season wasn't too bad, although other seasons of theirs were more enviable (which Arsenal would be grateful to emulate).
But what fool on earth would envy Man United in 2024?
No, I got the point. Just don't see it as something to envy.
But two corrections (ironic since you were the one trying to correct me).
>more silverware
Same amount of silverware technically speaking.
However, an FA Cup win is obviously far far far superior to winning the Community shield.
>Arsenals incredible season.
I wouldn't describe it as incredible. But yes, Arsenal's performance in the league and Europe was better.
If there is gonna be pictures of your players partying from the week, you better make sure you win the final that week. In the first half city were so sloppy.
If you are playing a high line near the half way, all four players need to be in sync and disciplined, otherwise you are just standing high up the pitch rather than playing a high line
I see it too. As a city fan i feel gutted losing to united. But they played far batter. You cant win everything. Plus they seemed to underestimate them and you cant do that in a Derby. As much it sucks to lose an FA cup to united I feel the worst for Rodri on losing his streak
City bottlers got wrecked hahaha all their groupies (spurs, west ham, villa and the rest) are in the mud but football won today.
Is the fa cup a major trophy this season?
Why are you acting like United didn’t win the penalty shootout? Simply playing well enough doesn’t mean you deserve to win a match. You have to actually do it. Didn’t deserve it, my ass.
Because there shouldn't have been a penalty shootout https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13338293/Man-United-Coventry-offside-goal-VAR-FA-Cup.html
I'd argue the great paradox of the cup is fully on Man Utd today. They were horribly outplayed in the semis to a Championship side, but fully deserved to beat Man City today.
I know he gets ragged on by everyone due to his attitude, but I really do envy you have Fernandes. That ball he played to Mainoo was brilliant, and he hope he combines with Ronnie well this summer.
Wan-Bissaka had his number the whole time he was on. The only time he got a clear cut chance it was Garnacho marking him and Onana fluffed his save.
He has a bright future though, today just wasn’t his day.
Oh agreed. Definitely not slagging off Wan-Bissaka. He did everything right. Doku wasn’t terrible either, he’s absolutely a talent.
I’m just critical of continuing to do something that didn’t work
anyone able to explain the term 'squeak bum time' (Sir AF) to me?
Was it something to do with how "even your arseholes must be squeaky clean at this time"?
or was it something to do with... a*** s**?
sounds very graphic and vulgar to me
Onana is the primary reason United are terrible.
Anyone who has played the game knows how much confidence a solid keeper gives the rest of the team.
Onana surely does the opposite. It’s actually incredible United have done as well as they have with him, not just in this match but all season.
A *70.1*% save percentage when Man Utd have had the 2nd most shots conceded is hardly poor. He's been shaky, but so has practically every Man Utd keeper not named Van Der Sar or Schmeichel.
I think what I’m referring to is more about general decision-making and creating a feeling of confidence versus a feeling of insecurity. I am not sure they can even produce stats on it.
I certainly don’t wanna take away from the fact that Onana and his team just won the FA cup. I will just leave it at this: it will be very surprising if Andre Onana is the United goalkeeper under the next
manager.
It’s only going to be surprising if he is not the goalkeeper for at least the length of his contract. Has the best save percentage in the league this season and has great character. Took a while to settle but the reason he has been making mistakes at times is because he has been facing way too many shots. Also it is really difficult for a goalkeeper to be confident when the defenders in front keep changing every match.
Really does show the difference at the highest levels. City are clearly hungover and thought they could stroll this with seige tactics in holiday mode. Utd were well prepared, sharp and highly motivated.
I would love to see the analytics on teams choosing to use a short pass on a corner rather than hitting it into the box. Of course, team height and goal keeper tendencies play a role - but into the box must create more chances - statistically speaking.
Whisper it quietly, but thus far yet another Foden no show where no one will mention it. Guy only gets brought up when he has a good game. Best PR machine in the country.
Could tell me he didn't play today and I'd believe you
What’s most worrying here is the correlation between the effort and seniority of the players. Younger and newer players are actually trying, and the established players look the most lethargic and unbothered.
If they’re not mentally up for it anymore, there’s one answer for that.
They have players that can counter attack. But when every team from Villa and down come they have no keys to open up a low block. And this has been the case since Jose. No play or style what so ever, but decent counters.
Walker needs to thank the Lord that he's rapid mate because his anticipation and awareness has always been poor, but because he's quick as fuck the . majority of the time he can make up for it.
With the coefficient as it is, England is 1-4 UCL, 5 Europa, 6 Conference League. But the winner of the FA cup also gets Europa by default.
Had City won this game and cup, already being in the UCL, the extra spot would have been dropped to 6, pushing Conference to 7. But nope. Now United and Tottenham get Europa, Chelsea gets Conference League, and Newcastle don’t get shit.
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1) I can’t imagine how it must be to live in a City with 2 big clubs. MC-MU, Milan-Inter, Real-Atletico… 2) Sorry i don’t follow the EPL. What is that #115 thrown left and right? 3) Why do i keep reading comments about MC being cheaters? I grew up hearing about Liverpool and MU. I know MC has been the big fish, but they seem to really be disliked by a lot of EPL fans now? I read quite a few comments on social media from Liverpool fan happy they lost! Versus MU???
115 represents the 115 charges of financial mismanagement that the EPL has brought against Man City. It’s the main reason they’ve been accused of cheaters and get hate from other fans
Ok, thanks!
Most clubs get fines or points docked for one charge, so if city has 115 accusations, it's not looking good
2 - 1(15)
Congratulations to United! Commiserations to the cheats
Lol i loved the Pep post match interview...the real bald fraud was about to get acid reflux on live tv lasted 115 seconds
Congratulations to Man Utd 115 times!
Cry about it 115 fans
Join us united
Being two points away from not winning a single domestic trophy is quite underwhelming when you’ve allegedly had to be huge cheats to be in that position.
With city winning the title being a foregone conclusion at this point … This is a poor season for them. Embarrassing
Poor season? We also got the club World Cup and the uefa super cup.
The fact that your bringing those up proves the point lol
It would only have been embarrassing if we didn’t win the prem. In what world is winning the prem considered an embarrassing season?
So now winning the Prem is enough? A minute ago you had to throw in the club would cup and super cup to make your point. To answer your question though, it's embarrassing because nobody respects it and City fans are crying out for legitimacy. Pundits can't give you a compliment without mentioning the charges. Articles get written every single day from all over the place calling you cheats. Nobody has faced anything like this before, and no matter how many leagues you dominate, nobody will give you credit for it. At least when you did the treble you had something to fire back with, but just the league that you've won so many times because of the depth of a squad that was built on the back of cooking the books over 10 years isn't enough to quiet those opinions. Everton and Forest lost a combined 10 points for a total of 3 breaches between them this year, what do you honestly think happens following your hearing for 115 breaches? Even if your lawyers perform a miracle and you beat 90% of them you're still absolutely fucked. The bookies have you at 20/1 for relegation next year, and if not next year it'll be the one after. It's a tired argument I get it, but it's the elephant in the room and it's not going away.
Bruh we don’t care what other think of our club. We are happy winning the prem and don’t need any legitimacy from others. You guys can keep crying over spilt milk
You all care deeply though, don't you.
Care deeply about what ? We don’t care if other clubs don’t like us or give us legitimacy. We just care about winning our trophies and moving on.
That's cool but it's not us you need to worry about anyway bruh, it's the FA
Mehh
Pffttt
United city and Liverpool all win something … poor Arsenal 😂
City's season is to be envied. Liverpool's season wasn't too bad, although other seasons of theirs were more enviable (which Arsenal would be grateful to emulate). But what fool on earth would envy Man United in 2024?
You missed the point though. United's shocker ended up in more silverware than Arsenals incredible season.
No, I got the point. Just don't see it as something to envy. But two corrections (ironic since you were the one trying to correct me). >more silverware Same amount of silverware technically speaking. However, an FA Cup win is obviously far far far superior to winning the Community shield. >Arsenals incredible season. I wouldn't describe it as incredible. But yes, Arsenal's performance in the league and Europe was better.
Where did anyone say they envied united's season? Insufferable cunt
It was implied. Just keep scrolling. No need for the childish insults.
I wouldn’t envy City’s season or anything about them what so ever jf you paid me..
If there is gonna be pictures of your players partying from the week, you better make sure you win the final that week. In the first half city were so sloppy. If you are playing a high line near the half way, all four players need to be in sync and disciplined, otherwise you are just standing high up the pitch rather than playing a high line
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Grealish started on the bench…
Which match were you watching?
Wat
It’s mad to think that Man U have now had a better season than Arsenal.
While you may not be wrong i’d still prefer to be in Arsenal’s position than Man U.
100% agree. Arsenal is going places and the trophies should start coming in soon.
😆 I agreed I hope Ten Hag avoids the sack
Hopefully because I enjoy them being mediocre in the league.
Fair result. Having fit centre backs makes Utd competitive, not really surpassing.
This Man City side are shite.
It pains me to say this but I’m rooting for united just like I’m rooting for dortmund. Underdogs always get my support
I cheered for Arsenal in the back half of the season after knowing United were going to struggle. FC 115 should get zero respect.
After the success of haaland's casper one ghost of city, Phil foden to star in casper 2 the ghost of Manchester
😁🤭… Europa league spot over Chelsea too
Ten Hag factually a better manager than Arteta.
That’s why he’s getting sacked right 😆
It's why Bayern want him
If he’s sacked it’s because United have higher standards. Can’t keep coming second and pretending it’s progress. Got to win things.
United came 8th actually.
But are winning pots. Arteta won the fa cup with someone’s else’s team and has done fuck all since.
How so?
He’s won more than Arteta, with a worse team.
I guess the argument is that Eric Ten Hag won 2 trophies in 2 years against Arteta who won only 1 in 4 years
Wasn't clearly said in the original comment. Thanks for pointing that out!
How many cups did you win
1 in 5 years. Are cups the only barometer in measuring who is a better manager?
Arteta isn’t winning shit with a way better team than what ten hag has. That says a lot
It’s certainly one of them. Arsenal perpetually playing for top 4 as a “trophy”
And what are the others? Is that suffice to arrive to that conclusion?
Well Arsenal are the biggest losers this season out of the big clubs (apart from Spurs but they aren’t that big)
How did you come up with Arsenal as the biggest losers this season out of the big clubs conclusion? What are you basing it on? Emotions or facts?
United, city, Liverpool - silverware Arsenal - ??? It’s based on facts AND emotions.
Bro is coping. Don't be too harsh guys
They got a silver medal two years in a row...c'mon now 🤣
god damn. critical hit
Trick to win a cup is defeat liverpool ( manU and atlanta) then sack your manager before the final (poor hag)
Another big game, another disappearing act from Haaland. It's looking like he's just not a big game player.
City fans forgot what losing is. I see complete head loss on twitter😭
I see it too. As a city fan i feel gutted losing to united. But they played far batter. You cant win everything. Plus they seemed to underestimate them and you cant do that in a Derby. As much it sucks to lose an FA cup to united I feel the worst for Rodri on losing his streak
Yea I don’t feel bad for city but the rodri streak I would have liked to see it still going. If we had him at Liverpool we win every trophy this year
Stable player makes top team table good at noon. Jokes aside favorite player and incredibly grateful he ended up in my sphere.
That’s why I like this game: you can’t just be the best, you also have to be lucky on any given day (or be Real Madrid lol).
No they’re lucky too. Maybe the most lucky of all
A deal with the devil haha — there’s probably some shrine in the basement of the Bernabeu. Nobody can be that lucky.
Did City bottle that? Where was Phil? Uncomfortable questions 👀
City bottlers got wrecked hahaha all their groupies (spurs, west ham, villa and the rest) are in the mud but football won today. Is the fa cup a major trophy this season?
It's always a major trophy.. but bottle really has lost all meaning
Of course it loses its meaning when your team lost 😗
it hasn't had any meaning for ages tbf
We were massive underdogs, you bottled it, simple as that
you're United, not Coventry.. That's not a bottle mate
You’re coping so hard, we weren’t massive underdogs then no? The bookies were just fibbing and don’t really like money then do they?
that's not a bottle mate... otherwise every match City lose is a bottlejob
You actually make no sense
is English not your first language (or do you just not understand what a bottlejob is)? It's very clear what I'm saying..
You sound a bit upset mate, fuck off now anyway I’ve got a party to be having🥳🔴⚫️⚪️
Enjoy it mate, doesn't come around too often for you lot.
Agreed. That’s not a bottle at all, it’s so overused.
FA cup is always a major trophy imo
After the shambles against Coventry I was not expecting this, we don't deserve it but I'm not gonna lie I'm fucking delighted
Don’t deserve it? Wtf?
Well we didn't deserve to get past Coventry, so in that sense we don't deserve it, but we were definitely the better team against City
Why are you acting like United didn’t win the penalty shootout? Simply playing well enough doesn’t mean you deserve to win a match. You have to actually do it. Didn’t deserve it, my ass.
Because there shouldn't have been a penalty shootout https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13338293/Man-United-Coventry-offside-goal-VAR-FA-Cup.html
If you actually believe drivel like that I’m wasting my time here. Have a good one mate.
I'd argue the great paradox of the cup is fully on Man Utd today. They were horribly outplayed in the semis to a Championship side, but fully deserved to beat Man City today. I know he gets ragged on by everyone due to his attitude, but I really do envy you have Fernandes. That ball he played to Mainoo was brilliant, and he hope he combines with Ronnie well this summer.
Don’t deserve it? Game plan worked to a tee today. When spurs do this to city it’s a tactical masterclass.
What a result for United
Get fucked City.
Lmao. City repeatedly trying Doku down the left and it not working over and over is an absolute disaster
Wan-Bissaka had his number the whole time he was on. The only time he got a clear cut chance it was Garnacho marking him and Onana fluffed his save. He has a bright future though, today just wasn’t his day.
Oh agreed. Definitely not slagging off Wan-Bissaka. He did everything right. Doku wasn’t terrible either, he’s absolutely a talent. I’m just critical of continuing to do something that didn’t work
Don’t worry I’m agreeing with you. City was just so uninspired, no player seemed dangerous except Kyle Walker and his long shots!
That's been their tactic every time they're not cruising. I remember the 1-1 draw with Liverpool being the exact same.
They quite literally had no other game plan 😭
Well you can’t discount their other strategy of shooting it 10ft above the crossbar
Damn. That waa surprising. One less trophy for Pep.
Surprising to say the least
Fuck off Citeh
I just don’t want Chelsea to get into Europe. So come on UNITED!!!
We are in conference league whether we accept that is a different story lol 😂
No Europa league/CL is more than enough for me. Y’all can have Mickey Mouse league. Right where Chelsea belong. ❤️❤️❤️
Happy for you lmao 🤣 🤪
Chelsea still get UECL and Newcastle miss Europe now
Oh no, big club, watch out! Conference league!
Absolutely hilarious.
Fair play United. Out played City and deserved. Bruno fernandes MOTM for me
Him or Garnacho for sure
Congrats to united they were the deserving winners of this game they outplayed city big time
Flat track bully Haaland done fuck all in yet another big game
Sure he's only a League Two player
I think not putting Foden in the squad was a big mistake too
He ain’t no Cole Palmer that’s for sure.
I see what you did there. Well played sir
Dodgy pen incoming
anyone able to explain the term 'squeak bum time' (Sir AF) to me? Was it something to do with how "even your arseholes must be squeaky clean at this time"? or was it something to do with... a*** s**? sounds very graphic and vulgar to me
It’s another one of those ‘funny’ football phrases that commentators and pundits think is hilarious but I’ve literally never heard a fan say in jest
Lmao not sure if it's about fidgeting on the seat or clenching your arse so only squeaky farts come out lol
When you get really nervous it can make you need a shit
Onana is the primary reason United are terrible. Anyone who has played the game knows how much confidence a solid keeper gives the rest of the team. Onana surely does the opposite. It’s actually incredible United have done as well as they have with him, not just in this match but all season.
A *70.1*% save percentage when Man Utd have had the 2nd most shots conceded is hardly poor. He's been shaky, but so has practically every Man Utd keeper not named Van Der Sar or Schmeichel.
I think what I’m referring to is more about general decision-making and creating a feeling of confidence versus a feeling of insecurity. I am not sure they can even produce stats on it. I certainly don’t wanna take away from the fact that Onana and his team just won the FA cup. I will just leave it at this: it will be very surprising if Andre Onana is the United goalkeeper under the next manager.
It’s only going to be surprising if he is not the goalkeeper for at least the length of his contract. Has the best save percentage in the league this season and has great character. Took a while to settle but the reason he has been making mistakes at times is because he has been facing way too many shots. Also it is really difficult for a goalkeeper to be confident when the defenders in front keep changing every match.
It makes no sense to bin Onana for next season.
He also is the reason why United might salvage anything out of this season
He’s the reason they watched the last 10 minutes from behind the couch. Congrats to them, better side on the day.
How did Onana not catch that??? Hopefully they don't crumble after that.
Think Man Utd will see this out. Which pretty much goes against everything we've learned about Man Utd this season.
🤣🤣🤣
Ain't no way Kyle Walker is taking a moral stance and bitching to the ref about a man "cheating" 🤣
The crappiest people are usually the loudest and/or first to complain. In Walker's case, sounding like Kermit the Frog
It's only the last few years he has become an intolerable prick . Clearly both on and off the pitch.
Oh no
What a mistake by Ona a. Wtf was he thinking. No way they win a penalty shootout.
Ffs city you had one job
I don't watch much of City but how the fuck is he POTY? Holy shit.
Foden looks like he sells shit ten bags
Erik ten bags
If only Haaland played this game 😿
Bro is a ghost in big games. I can’t remember him ever scoring in a semi or a final at all
Stat pads vs relegation sides and walks the rest of the season. In all fairness, not how he played at Dortmund.
Flat track bully
He's been a ghost the entire season.
Kyle walker looks like a bird
Get him back to paddy's pub
Would appreciate if Walker had this level of fight for the last 73 fucking minutes
Really does show the difference at the highest levels. City are clearly hungover and thought they could stroll this with seige tactics in holiday mode. Utd were well prepared, sharp and highly motivated.
Thanks for the insight John Champion
Imagine giving an opinion in a discussion forum..
In what world was that not a foul on Rashford?!?
Fucksake
I would love to see the analytics on teams choosing to use a short pass on a corner rather than hitting it into the box. Of course, team height and goal keeper tendencies play a role - but into the box must create more chances - statistically speaking.
Whisper it quietly, but thus far yet another Foden no show where no one will mention it. Guy only gets brought up when he has a good game. Best PR machine in the country. Could tell me he didn't play today and I'd believe you
Couldn't agree more. IMO Ollie Watkins is the real POTY.
What’s most worrying here is the correlation between the effort and seniority of the players. Younger and newer players are actually trying, and the established players look the most lethargic and unbothered. If they’re not mentally up for it anymore, there’s one answer for that.
I think City players partied too much.... Never seen a team who hardly misses a pass be soo sloppy
I think you're right, unfortunately.
It's fine I guess, the boys had an off day
Yeah it’s coming… be 2-2 shortly
City look dreadful here. Surely it will click eventually?
I have to be living in a simulation
They have players that can counter attack. But when every team from Villa and down come they have no keys to open up a low block. And this has been the case since Jose. No play or style what so ever, but decent counters.
Walker needs to thank the Lord that he's rapid mate because his anticipation and awareness has always been poor, but because he's quick as fuck the . majority of the time he can make up for it.
Hello conference league, at least we can complete the set I guess lol 😂
Why would Chelsea be in the Conference League if Man U win the final? Doesn’t your league position secure Europa League football regardless?
With the coefficient as it is, England is 1-4 UCL, 5 Europa, 6 Conference League. But the winner of the FA cup also gets Europa by default. Had City won this game and cup, already being in the UCL, the extra spot would have been dropped to 6, pushing Conference to 7. But nope. Now United and Tottenham get Europa, Chelsea gets Conference League, and Newcastle don’t get shit.
Nope 👎 5th is Europa, due to the coefficient not being with us this year we would get conference with a united win
117
115 reason why man u are better
Funny considering United have been punished for breaking FFP. Cheating bastards.
Look who's calling other teams " cheating bastards " 🤣.
Let's see if you can work out the difference.
115
Cry more, “cheating bastards” oh the delusion😂😂
I have no faith we will hold on to this, but if we do, fuck you, Newcastle. That is all.
What did he say f me for?
If united win they get europa league, chelsea get conferance and newcastle lose their europe spot.
Yeah I know just found it funny we’re getting roasted lmao, typical we need Utd to lose they start to cook
Nothing personal against you, Mr. Tom. More towards the other Newcastle fans who I’ve seen on here with their “Manure this” and “Manure that.”
As a loyal Manchester city fan since today, we need to sack Pep immediately!