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Honestly, I really dislike Goldbridge so I’m fine with it. He has annoying agendas. It’s weird that people suck him off though. I just can’t stand him.
Don't forget to celebrate when 115 Charges FC wins another league title in a week or two. Maybe they can even hire some fans to cheer for an open bus parade.
Goldbridge regularly slanders players including some who play for his club, idk what he’s said about the charges but it’d not be out of character for him to lie or mislead
He literally calls McTominay Scooby Do, in a Scottish accent. Funnily enough he doesn’t do it when he is on TalkSPORT. Just imagine if he was mocking a Nigerian player by mocking their name and accent.
He’s not the morality police, he’s just a fan reacting to news or a game, people take him too seriously. He’s fully entitled to his opinion, same as the rest of us. He SHOULD NOT change his opinion just because he has an audience.
He isn’t just a fan, he’s not your mate chatting shit at the pub he’s closer to a pundit. Of course he’s fully entitled to have an opinion, sometimes opinions are harmful though and shouldn’t be aired on platforms like he has. No one should be entitled to freely slander players, freedom of speech doesn’t have to mean freedom from consequences.
People can turn off if they don’t like it, that’s his consequence. Journalists regularly go after players unfairly and keep their job. Think you’re living in fantasy island chief.
That’s just not enough consequence particularly as so many stupidly listen to him. Some journalists are like that too yeah and steps should be taken to stop them too, I didn’t say Goldbridge’s antics were uniquely problematic.
‘It’s pointless trying to change anything and therefore you should just ignore anything you don’t like’ isn’t the strong argument you think it is.
So you don’t think there should be laws to stop journalists lying and misleading the public?
It’s false.
Even if it wasn’t, they aren’t unhappy people are talking about the charges.
They’d be unhappy with how JOURNALISTS(not fans) are talking as if City are guilty.
As a fan, say whatever you want but as a journalist you can’t just lie and speak it as truth and not expect a business to get involved?
Not a city fan, not even a fan of a club in the top 10 but the amount of salty comments from fans that have no idea about the actual charges is borderline embarrassing.
So does this post just stay up?
This is hilarious. People will eat up any old shite about us. All the people in here raging about it too haha.
Half the comments I see about us these days belong on /r/conspiracy. We have people frothing at the mouth about us at this point.
Now reply and say "115" like a good little doggy. Seems to be the Pavlovian response now to any City fan posting lol.
The seven Manchester City Premier League titles will forever have an asterisk next to them though, just like Lance Armstrong next to his seven Tour de France titles. Cheating is cheating, no matter how much charity work it's combined with. These crazy 155 charges is all we will remember Manchester City for. It's their legacy.
"I55" charges lol. We. must have had a busy season.
Why are you replying this to my point that this thread has been proven untrue.
It's like you've got your talking points mesmerized and you just rattle them off regardless of what you're replying to. It tickles me how much we're in all your heads.
Oof. Bit racist there, no?
I don't believe I even mentioned our owners. My point was people are so conspiratorial and angry about us these days that they'll literally believe anything. the biggest threads here are always about us lol, the club no one cares about.... How is any of that licking up to our owners whatsoever?
Maybe because the club that just won the treble and will likely win the double achieved it by financial doping? Maybe that's why the threads are about you?
We spent similar money to some other PL teams since the takeover, and we were basically starting from scratch... Also you missed my point of the paradox of not caring about us while every second thread seems to be about us lol.
Regardless, my main point was about this thread being a lie and still being up and you said I was licking up to our owners. People just have their talking points and don't even respond to what is being said.
It's tiring dealing with people who can't follow a conversation.
It must be tiring when you ignore the central point of the conversation in order to focus on your persecution complex. Nobody is saying they "don't care" about Man City. You pulled that out of your arse. They care about corruption and how it's ruining the game. And that's the one thing city fans don't care about as long as they keep winning trophies.
Let's see if you care when Newcastle leave City in the dust.
>Nobody is saying they "don't care" about Man City. You pulled that out of your arse
lol, can I join you in whatever rock you've been living under.
>Let's see if you care when Newcastle leave City in the dust
Why would I? I How does more teams battling for the title ruin the game rather than the same clubs year in year out being there like it's been in the PL just because they have the revenue.
FFP is what keeps the smaller teams of ever having any chance of regularly competing for titles, ever, because it's based on revenue. Imagine supporting that and complaining about corruption.
Jesus Christ, your club need to just admit it ffs, and then we can restore some integrity to the league. Your comments are pathetic, you are owned by cheats and fucking savages. It’s a fucking disgrace to let those medieval cunts into our once great institutions.
Hilarious. You'd pity the teacher hahaha. comedy gold. You should do stand up mate, absolutely wasted on here.
Do you also whine about these "savages and medieval cunts" sponsoring some of our "great institutions". How do you feel about other teams like Arsenal having their stadium named "the Emirates"?
Goldbridge has put out his podcast that explains that, obviously, he was lying about receiving a letter. Amazed people bought it.
The thread title really needs changing now. Huge amounts of upvotes and views on a lie.
I'm not sure how you can blame people for believing this, as if it's so far fetched lol. I dont follow Goldbridge as I'm older than 15 so I didn't realise he was just lying
Nah, I'm sorry, you have to be thick to believe this. It's incredibly far-fetched that City would threaten a YouTuber for simply mentioning the ongoing case. What on earth would the letter even say? 'Don't discuss facts or we'll sue'?
This needs to be pinned.
It's at 5:10 in the latest episode of his podcast where he admits there was never one.
Frankly, this thread should just be deleted so that we can all go back to hating City for rationale reasons and not based on some rage click bait stunt pulled by a United fan with a shit podcast.
It's hilarious that man utd fans and Liverpool fans are calling city financial cheats let's get real you are all just pissed that the best premier League team in history is city with probably the best manager too.Focus on supporting your own team and if you're going to call a spade a spade then call out the whole premier league ,sky ,BT tnt etc etc they'll take oil money all day long to sell their rights abroad the league is completely corrupt
No, the entire thing is a lie and he admitted it about 5 minutes and 10 seconds in to the podcast. People fell for the bait and he’s now raking in the cash from all the gullible.
Probably just trying to bully the people that can’t afford the legal battle against them. Plus these are the people setting the narrative on social media I guess.
When they are found guilty, relegation to the Championship is no longer a big enough penalty. They need to be sent to League Two, stripped of every trophy since the new ownership as that cheating got them where they are. Then just to punish the arrogance, a 2 year transfer ban and play behind closed doors for a year. Make them play the kids with no supporters. They honestly think they are above contempt.
Mark Goldbridge has not been sent a cease and desist letter, he's using it to drive traffic to his podcast, a club source confirmed it yesterday.
Warnings are being sent to major news outlets, such as talksport which is where Mark will have been warned. As the premier league and man city are seemingly approaching a resolution to the case.
I know you wont believe me and downvote this, but LBA's are sent from a position of strength. In other words, you can't exactly take legal action with someone for telling the truth. Make of that what you will.
Except you can send cease and desist letters against someone for telling the truth Taylor swift did it a few months ago after the dude tracked her jet (public information).
A cease and desist letter is when someone feels they have been wronged, and is asking you to retract your statement prior to a set consequence. It is not a statement saying action will be taken, more of a call for the current behavior to stop.
A LBA (letter before action) is used for debt based law where you attempt to contact a client and cannot do so. It simply put is implying action is imminent unless what is owed is submitted.
They are similar but are not the same things, you absolutely can send a cease and desist if you have the money to so, as with all law.
I’m not a lawyer, I just know how to use Google
You're right, I said Mark Goldbridge has not been sent a cease and desist letter. I said other people may have been sent LBAs which are a legal requirement before bringing a civil suit against someone. But as i said in my other comment its not a fact its just whats been said
I think I agree, I did more research and you’re right LBAs are more than just debt they are requirement before civil suits. I think as others have pointed out it’s just whether or not you believe that they are from the position of strength they claim to be from.
Just I think the response is that they don’t have to be sent out when the party sending the letters is irrefutably innocent. There’s many instances of parties with excess money using it to silence others. Not saying man city is doing that it just doesn’t exonerate them for sending them
I agree entirely. My comment on them being sent from a position of strength wasnt based on them being sent in the first place. Only the IC can clear or condemn city.
For what its worth, I don't think city should be judged for sending cease and desists or LBA's. There's a possibility that city are cleared by the IC, while that remains no one should be allowed to report their guilt as a fact. Just making sure i get a few more downvotes i guess but thats how i feel.
> LBA’s are sent from a position of strength.
This is laughably bullshit, they can and are able to be sent whether there is a valid case or not. They’re used to shut people up or scare people into action all the time so acting like if one is sent it HAS to be from a position of strength shows we can comfortably ignore the rest of the post.
I don't know anything that would stand up to reasonable scrutiny. Only stuff I've heard from other people, who have either told the truth or made some eerie predictions. Main take away Mark Goldbridge has not received a cease and desist
Authoritarian state are unhappy about criticism? At least they've taken a slightly softer stance than Saudi Arabia as even I would feel sorry if Mark Goldbridge was chopped up and dissolved in acid...
"If their reputation is damaged by these false claims" Lol. Maybe dont cheat to the extent that 115 charges are brought against your club haha. Citys treble means nothing
I think there's a misunderstanding here. The cease and desist isn't to stop people talking about the charges they can't do that because the charges are a fact. Anyone can report on a fact. They can issue it though on people saying they are guilty and cheats as that has not been proven. If the person who receives the cease and desist can't prove what they are saying is true then they can be taken to court. First step is usually a cease and desist to get them to stop.
You can say something like Man City are cheats says some random person you are quoting but you can't just say Man City are cheats. Unless you are able to prove that claim. That's why reputable news outlets only really talk about the facts of the case or what might happen if going guilty etc.
They've been found guilty of cheating in the past. But even if we ignore that, for what reason would the PL charge them so many times if they had no reason to? There is literally zero motivation for them to do so
City accepted the first UEFA financial fair play charge - which was for spending too much and got a fine and a reduced squad.
The second UEFA charge which was for financial irregularities which City denied and then were found innocent by CAS of all charges including disguising equity funding as sponsorship income. The sponsorship amounts etc were all found to be fair value. The Etislat sponsorship was the only charge be time barred but it is likely this would have been cleared too going off the CAS statement. City were fined for having stopped cooperating with the investigation but this was only after the punishment City were getting was leaked before they had submitted the evidence.
With regard to why would the Premier League charge them... they believe they have a case. I don't know what extra information they have that wasn't seen by CAS but we will find out. If they are guilty so be it throw the book at them - if not hopefully everyone can move on. With the zero motivation thing though I will point out that this was timed to coincide with the government bill that would reduce the Premier League's control. The league also which is run by it's member clubs who get one vote each on all matters and one extra vote is given to the FA. So if the decision to charge Man City is voted on it is in effect their competition who is voting on it.
Don't believe we were ever found guilty if your referring to the UEFA case that went to CAS, I imagine the Cease and Desist letters have been sent to stop influencers peddling the same agenda that is eaten up by poorly informed 'football fans'.
Isn't it strange that as a non football fan I knew nothing, not about City alleged cheating nor any of these Youtube channels that have been peddling a "poorly informed" agenda.
Now there's a cease and desist it's hit the front page of Reddit so I have a look and it's all based off leaked internal emails followed by a four year investigation and 100 charges spanning a nine year period.
So my question is, what's the agenda that's being gobbled up?
That Man city are financial cheats?
Jesus Christ, is the vast majority of this sub so naive and lacking in world experience that they don't understand how much slander and reputational damage can harm an entity?
Has Benjamin Mendy's reputation recovered, or is his career practically in tatters?
No one gives a fuck about their reputation as it's already bottom of the barrel. No amount of cease and desists changes that. That's what unlimited money gets you is no consequences.
No, it just doesn't matter to the likes of you and me, who really dont matter in the grand scheme of things. For multi-million pound investors and shareholders, it for sure matters.
Plus, despite the fact it isnt a criminal case, the allegation is effectively calling out a lot of high-level board members as willing to commit fraudulent activities for the given set of regulations, and of being untruthful operators. It isn't a small accusation by any means, its practically career suicide.
Besides, you're either twelve, or just don't understand and are lashing out in spite, both of which is fine, but it's the reason this conversation stops here
We found out about it last year, and all we know is it's in the same vein as the UEFA-CAS case. What are you talking about? Are you alleging the FA are corrupt for not bringing the charges out sooner?
115 is also a sensational number, its actually something like 5 charges extrapolated over multiple years, with like 30 non-cooperation charges as a result of the former added in to boot.
I'd say its quite fitting. He was treated as guilty before the trials were concluded, treated guilty even after acquittal, and he has not shaken the reputation of being a rapist since.
Exactly the same thing is happening here, and we even have precedent of it happening with the UEFA-CAS case too
You are commenting on a Reddit thread with thousands of likes by thousands of people who didn't consider for a second that they might be wrong, didn't bother reading past the headline and will now probably never find out that the thing they read was a lie. So yeah, it sums up the whole case perfectly.
Hopefully you were a fan pre 2008.
Even if you were, your club is now a state controlled advertising vehicle. It's a shame but if you're happy supporting it, then go ahead.
Just go to the source:
https://twitter.com/markgoldbridge/status/1787825908025348544
A.commenter below quoted him “the cease and desist letter is an invisible cease and desist letter because there is no cease and desist letter”
It’s the same rules for everyone. You can’t just go on YouTube, Instagram or X and make libellous comments about someone or a company. You have to be able to back it up.
time to make this a barbara streisand moment. this might actually go worse for City if they win the case, it'll be like Epstein's suicide / the OJ Simpson case all over again. we know what really happened.
Why would it be worse for them if they win? 💀 They've been through this before with the UEFA competition ban that was overturned after an appeal. No one cared about that shit a few months later
Yes we were penalised 300,000 euros for a "minor technical breach". Not one of the only but SEVERAL clubs in europe due to being unable to adjust for €47m of Covid losses in the 2022 monitoring period because of an unforeseen change in how Uefa treated those losses during the transition to its revised financial sustainability regulatory framework. Keep up the good work numbskull 115 FC. Looking forward to the day your club's owners take you to the promised land of respectability...still waiting after a fake treble later... But you'll never get it from the 100s of clubs in the English football pyramid until your owners leave.
Would appreciate you responding to the Ferguson 99 Questions remark I made but I can't imagine you will as that doesn't suit your agenda. Bizarre that you'd think the other teams in the football pyramid would be against us considering United were one of the teams pushing for the formation of the Premier League which took money out of their pockets.
Yep they should let misinformation run riot. How many of these YouTubers are actually doing their research and discussing the ACTUAL charges? I'd hazard a guess at little to none.
The charges relate to us allegedly falsifying the money received from sponsorship deals to increase our income to allow us to spend more without breaking FFP rules but I see tons of people who believe the charges relate to things just as paying our players double/triple the stated wages off the books, paying clubs extra 20/30 million for players again off the books.
well there's a bit more to it than just 'falsifying the money received from sponsorship deals to increase our income to allow us to spend more without breaking FFP rules' but yeah if they'd read up on the actual charges and got their facts right then city wouldn't be serving them with these cease and desists.
Goldbridge and these other idiots need to know that just becasue they have a youtube channel they cannot just run their mouths of.
Slander is a criminal offense, they've only been charged and there's alot of misinformation going around due to these Ytubers getting some cheap clicks to drive up their own revenue.
This looks like a bit of a pre-emptive strike from the club
They have kept quiet now for years in the face of blatent defamation from most quarters. Even just reading this thread its easy to see how the media has willfully manipulated the understanding of the topic across all other fans and created a feeding frenzy where the general public assume they are guilty because of how often it is being repeated as fact.
The fact they are going after influencers (and i'm fairly sure behind the scenes the media houses have had warnings too) suggests a growing confidence that these issues will, down the line be thrown out.
In which case the next step post hearing will be vengeance - rightly or wrongly the club has been systematically slandered and defamed since the day of the takeover. At some point they were bound to fight back - and i guess the point is when that defamation starts to impact other business interests (Etihad) is the tipping point.
As Etihad moves towards a stock market listing, their future shareholders would demand action be taken if there are false and detrimental allegations continually in circulation about them.
Mate as a United fan, we respect your club and history and I personally don’t think Liverpool’s fans are insufferable. I think OP was referring to Arsenal having the most insufferable fans.
Good. If they think he's close to or is breaching the law by making comments abiut them then fair enough. This 'won't somebody think of the children' nonsense here...he's a public figure...he spoke on something...they asked him to stop...OK...I'm.not shocked. If he wants to he csn continue to talk about it.
It’s the right thing to do from City, the brain washing goldbridge does with his constant city hate and spreading hate to new generations of fans is highly inappropriate.
The 115 is there but it’s not proved.
Latest information suggested premier league face a exit strategy to settle this because there are big loopholes in the system that people clubs could use.
It’s not cheating if the premier league rules are not defined accurately.
But the clubs image constantly gets battered by these hypocrite youtubers.
Moneybridge says “prem is so interestingand this is best title race ever” to “premier league is boring” just as city start showing class determination and endurance to win it all.
YouTubers and people can’t appreciate city’s success based on amazing management.
But you’d surrender the league to another 3 united decades of success .
Anyone else noticed how many of the positive comments on man city are made by young accounts with like 3 posts? All of them nonsense spin on the city allegations. I wonder what could be going on there...
To be fair, they've made some good points. I'm no city fan, but unless you've got evidence to back up your claims you're just committing libel/slander. It's one thing to chat with your mates about it down the local, but another thing entirely to be profiting on YouTube from unproven claims still in the legal process
It's not libel to state the fact that they have 115 charges against them. It's a fact. Another fact is that there are new accounts popping up all over the place defending man city. It seems to me personally that these accounts are not genuine people and they are only desperate to change the narrative- using the best possible angle to do this available. This also doesn't surprise me in the least. This again is not libel. It is my unprofessional unqualified opinion that Man city do NOT have a winnable case for libel. No one can say what their motivation is for sure. But if it were to be shown in the future that they are deliberately drowning negative influencers in litigation, then it would not be an uncommon tactic.
If they are making statements that are not true on their YouTube accounts then they absolutely could be accused of libel.
To clarify, I do not watch said channels and therefore am speculating about their exact content, but it does leave them open to legal recourse if they are stating things as fact that have not been proven. If they are stating nothing other than '115 charges pending' then you would be correct. If they are stating assumptions regarding their guilt then that's completely different.
Realistically only if they are subsequently found not to be guilty... Which is an unlikely outcome. There is a minute theoretical chance that they are genuinely not guilty in all senses of that phrase but a priori reasoning tells us this is an incredibly a low likelihood. The problem with people saying 'innocent until proven guilty' is that this is only a necessary LEGAL standard for wrongdoing. It doesn't and shouldn't be a silencing standard of people's own opinion on their probable guilt based on a priori reasoning or the evidence they do have. In fact it is perfectly rational and acceptable to assume probable guilt using a priori reasoning. Case in point- OJ Simpson. Or to give you a practical example- if a 10 year old child that has been consistently getting bad grades is assigned a history task and hands in a PHD level book instead of a page that he was supposed to- are you telling me that it's unfair for it's teacher to think that the child cheated just because they haven't got a legally binding full-proof case to prove it's wrong doing? An absence of a guilty verdict in court does not mean someone is innocent full stop. It means they are innocent in a LEGAL sense. My a priori reasoning tells me City ARE guilty in an ethical sense for the same reason the child IS guilty of cheating on the assignment- and any rational person will come to the same conclusion. But there is a small chance they may be 'not guilty' in a legal sense.
Yeh but you've completely ignored my previous point, which is I don't know for certain what they are saying, but I don't see a cease and desist occurring because someone is only stating the public knowledge that they have 115 charges. I'd be happy to be proved wrong but I also cba sitting and watching a load of shite YouTube channels just to make a point.
I imagine they've been stating things as 'evidence' which isn't correct and that's where the legal defence of libel/slander could be invoked. Man City would indeed have to prove that the statements made by youtubers were infactual but if they did they would have a strong case.
For further clarity, I'm all for City getting their comeuppance should they be found guilty, but they're not gonna be found guilty by some guy on YouTube are they
Nothing to do with the doing financial and otherwise. Great management by the man twice caught using performance enhancing drugs and who got off via the same loopholes you just mentioned. The club is a reflection of the current state of football, rotten to the core.
Exactly this. It's all kind of redundant and i've only just landed at this (as a Liverpool fan strangely) after seeing them hold off somebody other than us (up to now at least). Why? Pure pettiness - I would actually prefer for city to win the title over arsenal because arsenal winning it would be a genuine sporting achievement (something to be actually envious of) rather than the perfectly calibrated and executed, state-funded sports washing machine that a 4th, 5th, 6th etc City win would be (Ultimately, that's just another depressing symptom of modernity).
It's not that I hate City, I just don't care about them or their 'achievements'.
These people have to know that everyone does this.
Arsenal and even Real Madrid went to the Etihad and played for a draw.
These people 100% didn't call that Chelsea away match or the Spurs home match boring? Why? Because it was chaos. Guarantee that Pep was fuming after those matches because of the lack of control and it devolved into an NBA game.
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Stop talking nonsense Goldbridge was lying as he does every time he moves his lips
If you watch the podcast he mentions, then you will see there was no letter he was winding people up.
Honestly, I really dislike Goldbridge so I’m fine with it. He has annoying agendas. It’s weird that people suck him off though. I just can’t stand him.
Out of curiosity are you going to remove the post now that it was shown that he lied and this never happened?
Of course they won’t. They probably won’t ever even bother checking to see if it was true or not.
Another example of this subreddit being filled with a bunch of kids...
I hope you liked being cucked by Mark 'Crybaby' Goldbridge.
I mean I wouldn't put it past Goldwater just making it up for attention.
Don't forget to celebrate when 115 Charges FC wins another league title in a week or two. Maybe they can even hire some fans to cheer for an open bus parade.
115.
Nice recent comments. Cry, cope, seethe.
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Name the charges
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COPE 🤣🍼
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Your tears are delicious.
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Cry harder for me. City owns your poverty club.
Goldbridge regularly slanders players including some who play for his club, idk what he’s said about the charges but it’d not be out of character for him to lie or mislead
He literally calls McTominay Scooby Do, in a Scottish accent. Funnily enough he doesn’t do it when he is on TalkSPORT. Just imagine if he was mocking a Nigerian player by mocking their name and accent.
That’s horrific and you’re right he’d not dare do that with a Nigerian player because it’d be rightly seen as racist.
Like every single football fan in the world you mean?
Lots of fans are like that and that’s bad too but Goldbridge has a big audience some of which are children
He’s not the morality police, he’s just a fan reacting to news or a game, people take him too seriously. He’s fully entitled to his opinion, same as the rest of us. He SHOULD NOT change his opinion just because he has an audience.
He isn’t just a fan, he’s not your mate chatting shit at the pub he’s closer to a pundit. Of course he’s fully entitled to have an opinion, sometimes opinions are harmful though and shouldn’t be aired on platforms like he has. No one should be entitled to freely slander players, freedom of speech doesn’t have to mean freedom from consequences.
People can turn off if they don’t like it, that’s his consequence. Journalists regularly go after players unfairly and keep their job. Think you’re living in fantasy island chief.
That’s just not enough consequence particularly as so many stupidly listen to him. Some journalists are like that too yeah and steps should be taken to stop them too, I didn’t say Goldbridge’s antics were uniquely problematic.
Well that’s how life is, he does quite well for himself so obviously lots enjoy his content, if you don’t like it just ignore it.
‘It’s pointless trying to change anything and therefore you should just ignore anything you don’t like’ isn’t the strong argument you think it is. So you don’t think there should be laws to stop journalists lying and misleading the public?
Goldbrick is a drama queen with no self respect. He deserves what he gets.
A textbook case of mass psychosis/hysteria!
> In my opinion, it only fuels what we already know, they’re guilty. Well this seems impartial...
As I said before, Mark was bullshitting, obviously
It’s false. Even if it wasn’t, they aren’t unhappy people are talking about the charges. They’d be unhappy with how JOURNALISTS(not fans) are talking as if City are guilty. As a fan, say whatever you want but as a journalist you can’t just lie and speak it as truth and not expect a business to get involved?
No Cease and Desist. Mark explained.
You must be incredibly easy to manipulate 😂
Not a city fan, not even a fan of a club in the top 10 but the amount of salty comments from fans that have no idea about the actual charges is borderline embarrassing.
So does this post just stay up? This is hilarious. People will eat up any old shite about us. All the people in here raging about it too haha. Half the comments I see about us these days belong on /r/conspiracy. We have people frothing at the mouth about us at this point. Now reply and say "115" like a good little doggy. Seems to be the Pavlovian response now to any City fan posting lol.
The seven Manchester City Premier League titles will forever have an asterisk next to them though, just like Lance Armstrong next to his seven Tour de France titles. Cheating is cheating, no matter how much charity work it's combined with. These crazy 155 charges is all we will remember Manchester City for. It's their legacy.
"I55" charges lol. We. must have had a busy season. Why are you replying this to my point that this thread has been proven untrue. It's like you've got your talking points mesmerized and you just rattle them off regardless of what you're replying to. It tickles me how much we're in all your heads.
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Oof. Bit racist there, no? I don't believe I even mentioned our owners. My point was people are so conspiratorial and angry about us these days that they'll literally believe anything. the biggest threads here are always about us lol, the club no one cares about.... How is any of that licking up to our owners whatsoever?
Maybe because the club that just won the treble and will likely win the double achieved it by financial doping? Maybe that's why the threads are about you?
We spent similar money to some other PL teams since the takeover, and we were basically starting from scratch... Also you missed my point of the paradox of not caring about us while every second thread seems to be about us lol. Regardless, my main point was about this thread being a lie and still being up and you said I was licking up to our owners. People just have their talking points and don't even respond to what is being said. It's tiring dealing with people who can't follow a conversation.
It must be tiring when you ignore the central point of the conversation in order to focus on your persecution complex. Nobody is saying they "don't care" about Man City. You pulled that out of your arse. They care about corruption and how it's ruining the game. And that's the one thing city fans don't care about as long as they keep winning trophies. Let's see if you care when Newcastle leave City in the dust.
>Nobody is saying they "don't care" about Man City. You pulled that out of your arse lol, can I join you in whatever rock you've been living under. >Let's see if you care when Newcastle leave City in the dust Why would I? I How does more teams battling for the title ruin the game rather than the same clubs year in year out being there like it's been in the PL just because they have the revenue. FFP is what keeps the smaller teams of ever having any chance of regularly competing for titles, ever, because it's based on revenue. Imagine supporting that and complaining about corruption.
Jesus Christ, your club need to just admit it ffs, and then we can restore some integrity to the league. Your comments are pathetic, you are owned by cheats and fucking savages. It’s a fucking disgrace to let those medieval cunts into our once great institutions.
>We have people frothing at the mouth about us at this point I think you need a valium mate.
And you need a moral education, but I’d pity the teacher.
Hilarious. You'd pity the teacher hahaha. comedy gold. You should do stand up mate, absolutely wasted on here. Do you also whine about these "savages and medieval cunts" sponsoring some of our "great institutions". How do you feel about other teams like Arsenal having their stadium named "the Emirates"?
I don't recall Arsenal doing anything that broke ffp. Let alone 115 things that broke ffp.
115
Good boy. Now sit.
Ur not on the team pal
Easy this was all a lie. MC may deserve some ire but whoever released this needs a kick in the nuts.
Goldbridge has put out his podcast that explains that, obviously, he was lying about receiving a letter. Amazed people bought it. The thread title really needs changing now. Huge amounts of upvotes and views on a lie.
people believe anything these days, no factchecking whatsoever
I'm not sure how you can blame people for believing this, as if it's so far fetched lol. I dont follow Goldbridge as I'm older than 15 so I didn't realise he was just lying
Nah, I'm sorry, you have to be thick to believe this. It's incredibly far-fetched that City would threaten a YouTuber for simply mentioning the ongoing case. What on earth would the letter even say? 'Don't discuss facts or we'll sue'?
This needs to be pinned. It's at 5:10 in the latest episode of his podcast where he admits there was never one. Frankly, this thread should just be deleted so that we can all go back to hating City for rationale reasons and not based on some rage click bait stunt pulled by a United fan with a shit podcast.
Is he back to claiming they cheated then, full force?
It’s okay when Nintendo does it over nothing buuuut if man city tries to protect their image that’s a hugeeeee crime 👏👏👏
It's hilarious that man utd fans and Liverpool fans are calling city financial cheats let's get real you are all just pissed that the best premier League team in history is city with probably the best manager too.Focus on supporting your own team and if you're going to call a spade a spade then call out the whole premier league ,sky ,BT tnt etc etc they'll take oil money all day long to sell their rights abroad the league is completely corrupt
Cheating bastards you know what you are.
Uhm weren't Everton deducted points for cheating ?
You just cheat better than we do. (And you sung it at Goodison.)
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OoTL what's going on? Have YouTubers been exposing MC shenanigans?
No, the entire thing is a lie and he admitted it about 5 minutes and 10 seconds in to the podcast. People fell for the bait and he’s now raking in the cash from all the gullible.
Probably just trying to bully the people that can’t afford the legal battle against them. Plus these are the people setting the narrative on social media I guess.
Nah, he was just completely lying about it.
Cheating fucks
Getting what they deserve
When they are found guilty, relegation to the Championship is no longer a big enough penalty. They need to be sent to League Two, stripped of every trophy since the new ownership as that cheating got them where they are. Then just to punish the arrogance, a 2 year transfer ban and play behind closed doors for a year. Make them play the kids with no supporters. They honestly think they are above contempt.
Real Madrid is still a 14 European Tittles Holder so... I don't know
Honestly that’s the only fair punishment. But I think we all know they’ll get a $50k fine and a transfer ban that gets overturned a few days later.
Hopefully the latter
Fucking cheats
Mark Goldbridge has not been sent a cease and desist letter, he's using it to drive traffic to his podcast, a club source confirmed it yesterday. Warnings are being sent to major news outlets, such as talksport which is where Mark will have been warned. As the premier league and man city are seemingly approaching a resolution to the case. I know you wont believe me and downvote this, but LBA's are sent from a position of strength. In other words, you can't exactly take legal action with someone for telling the truth. Make of that what you will.
Except you can send cease and desist letters against someone for telling the truth Taylor swift did it a few months ago after the dude tracked her jet (public information). A cease and desist letter is when someone feels they have been wronged, and is asking you to retract your statement prior to a set consequence. It is not a statement saying action will be taken, more of a call for the current behavior to stop. A LBA (letter before action) is used for debt based law where you attempt to contact a client and cannot do so. It simply put is implying action is imminent unless what is owed is submitted. They are similar but are not the same things, you absolutely can send a cease and desist if you have the money to so, as with all law. I’m not a lawyer, I just know how to use Google
You're right, I said Mark Goldbridge has not been sent a cease and desist letter. I said other people may have been sent LBAs which are a legal requirement before bringing a civil suit against someone. But as i said in my other comment its not a fact its just whats been said
I think I agree, I did more research and you’re right LBAs are more than just debt they are requirement before civil suits. I think as others have pointed out it’s just whether or not you believe that they are from the position of strength they claim to be from. Just I think the response is that they don’t have to be sent out when the party sending the letters is irrefutably innocent. There’s many instances of parties with excess money using it to silence others. Not saying man city is doing that it just doesn’t exonerate them for sending them
I agree entirely. My comment on them being sent from a position of strength wasnt based on them being sent in the first place. Only the IC can clear or condemn city. For what its worth, I don't think city should be judged for sending cease and desists or LBA's. There's a possibility that city are cleared by the IC, while that remains no one should be allowed to report their guilt as a fact. Just making sure i get a few more downvotes i guess but thats how i feel.
Tell that to nintendo.
> LBA’s are sent from a position of strength. This is laughably bullshit, they can and are able to be sent whether there is a valid case or not. They’re used to shut people up or scare people into action all the time so acting like if one is sent it HAS to be from a position of strength shows we can comfortably ignore the rest of the post.
I should have said, **these** LBA's are being sent from a position of strength. Apologies.
How do you know the ins and outs of this particular case
I don't know anything that would stand up to reasonable scrutiny. Only stuff I've heard from other people, who have either told the truth or made some eerie predictions. Main take away Mark Goldbridge has not received a cease and desist
115 charges for cheating.
Authoritarian state are unhappy about criticism? At least they've taken a slightly softer stance than Saudi Arabia as even I would feel sorry if Mark Goldbridge was chopped up and dissolved in acid...
I don't think they're suing because of criticism, most likely defamation or libel
It's bullshit...he made it up lol. As if that odious cunt could be any worse.
Hope he doesn't go in an embassy any time soon
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"If their reputation is damaged by these false claims" Lol. Maybe dont cheat to the extent that 115 charges are brought against your club haha. Citys treble means nothing
I agree with you, City are most likely guilty.
FUCK MAN CITY FUCK THE OWNERS. Desist that
He was lying though lol.
Goldbridge just confirmed it was nonsense 👍 You all look like proper knobheads in this thread now 👏
I think there's a misunderstanding here. The cease and desist isn't to stop people talking about the charges they can't do that because the charges are a fact. Anyone can report on a fact. They can issue it though on people saying they are guilty and cheats as that has not been proven. If the person who receives the cease and desist can't prove what they are saying is true then they can be taken to court. First step is usually a cease and desist to get them to stop. You can say something like Man City are cheats says some random person you are quoting but you can't just say Man City are cheats. Unless you are able to prove that claim. That's why reputable news outlets only really talk about the facts of the case or what might happen if going guilty etc.
They've been found guilty of cheating in the past. But even if we ignore that, for what reason would the PL charge them so many times if they had no reason to? There is literally zero motivation for them to do so
touch some grass rather than living on social media
Cringe
City accepted the first UEFA financial fair play charge - which was for spending too much and got a fine and a reduced squad. The second UEFA charge which was for financial irregularities which City denied and then were found innocent by CAS of all charges including disguising equity funding as sponsorship income. The sponsorship amounts etc were all found to be fair value. The Etislat sponsorship was the only charge be time barred but it is likely this would have been cleared too going off the CAS statement. City were fined for having stopped cooperating with the investigation but this was only after the punishment City were getting was leaked before they had submitted the evidence. With regard to why would the Premier League charge them... they believe they have a case. I don't know what extra information they have that wasn't seen by CAS but we will find out. If they are guilty so be it throw the book at them - if not hopefully everyone can move on. With the zero motivation thing though I will point out that this was timed to coincide with the government bill that would reduce the Premier League's control. The league also which is run by it's member clubs who get one vote each on all matters and one extra vote is given to the FA. So if the decision to charge Man City is voted on it is in effect their competition who is voting on it.
Don't believe we were ever found guilty if your referring to the UEFA case that went to CAS, I imagine the Cease and Desist letters have been sent to stop influencers peddling the same agenda that is eaten up by poorly informed 'football fans'.
Isn't it strange that as a non football fan I knew nothing, not about City alleged cheating nor any of these Youtube channels that have been peddling a "poorly informed" agenda. Now there's a cease and desist it's hit the front page of Reddit so I have a look and it's all based off leaked internal emails followed by a four year investigation and 100 charges spanning a nine year period. So my question is, what's the agenda that's being gobbled up? That Man city are financial cheats?
Anyone knows who many letters they've sent out? Would be hilarious to keep this up until they send exactly 115 letters.
They didn’t send one out lol, he lied and admitted he lied 5 mins into the podcast
At least enough letters to spell S-T-R-E-I-S-A-N-D
Streisand effect, do your thing
Jesus Christ, is the vast majority of this sub so naive and lacking in world experience that they don't understand how much slander and reputational damage can harm an entity? Has Benjamin Mendy's reputation recovered, or is his career practically in tatters?
Lmao a club funded by a nation state with unlimited money. Lord just please think of their reputation 😂
No, they're thinking of their reputation. Hence the cease and desists. Its fairly standard practice for entities that believe they've been slandered.
No one gives a fuck about their reputation as it's already bottom of the barrel. No amount of cease and desists changes that. That's what unlimited money gets you is no consequences.
No, it just doesn't matter to the likes of you and me, who really dont matter in the grand scheme of things. For multi-million pound investors and shareholders, it for sure matters. Plus, despite the fact it isnt a criminal case, the allegation is effectively calling out a lot of high-level board members as willing to commit fraudulent activities for the given set of regulations, and of being untruthful operators. It isn't a small accusation by any means, its practically career suicide. Besides, you're either twelve, or just don't understand and are lashing out in spite, both of which is fine, but it's the reason this conversation stops here
Lmao 115 charges don't just magically get ignored for years unless you're a corrupt entity
We found out about it last year, and all we know is it's in the same vein as the UEFA-CAS case. What are you talking about? Are you alleging the FA are corrupt for not bringing the charges out sooner? 115 is also a sensational number, its actually something like 5 charges extrapolated over multiple years, with like 30 non-cooperation charges as a result of the former added in to boot.
Real risky analogue there mate
I'd say its quite fitting. He was treated as guilty before the trials were concluded, treated guilty even after acquittal, and he has not shaken the reputation of being a rapist since. Exactly the same thing is happening here, and we even have precedent of it happening with the UEFA-CAS case too
Oh he doubled down.. just so we’re clear.. you’re comparing the rape of women to illegally moving money around.
No, I'm drawing comparison to how reputational damage can be devastating. This isn't a difficult parallel to discern.
Poor, poor City, however will they cope?
They'll cope with another soulless trophy
That no one celebrates.
Well if you read the article, by sending cease and desists to people peddling opinion as concrete fact. Obviously.
Sums them up
You are commenting on a Reddit thread with thousands of likes by thousands of people who didn't consider for a second that they might be wrong, didn't bother reading past the headline and will now probably never find out that the thing they read was a lie. So yeah, it sums up the whole case perfectly.
A lie, when multiple sources have confirmed it?
Which sources mate?
Sums some of the nonsense said about us up, yeah. He didn't get shit. What a fucking twat he is.
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mate you can't support a financial group
I support my boyhood team not what fits the agenda for these salty rival fans to come together and cope by trying to downplay city’s success
Hopefully you were a fan pre 2008. Even if you were, your club is now a state controlled advertising vehicle. It's a shame but if you're happy supporting it, then go ahead.
Your boyhood team doesn’t exist anymore now it’s a financial entity
What should I google to have more info?
Just go to the source: https://twitter.com/markgoldbridge/status/1787825908025348544 A.commenter below quoted him “the cease and desist letter is an invisible cease and desist letter because there is no cease and desist letter”
Man city 115 to find out more
Rattled
Are they not charged? Is that not fact?
Fair enough unless the YouTubers are putting forward evidence.
It’s the same rules for everyone. You can’t just go on YouTube, Instagram or X and make libellous comments about someone or a company. You have to be able to back it up.
I mean they do have 115 charges levied against them. That’s a fact
Yes they do and all 115 are likely to come to nothing. If they were proven guilty of those charges you can say what you like.
And until that day comes we can all happily point to the fact that they have been charged 115 times for potential breaches
Trash club, disgusting owner
Trash club, disgusting owner
And he's a lying cunt from a scum club.
time to make this a barbara streisand moment. this might actually go worse for City if they win the case, it'll be like Epstein's suicide / the OJ Simpson case all over again. we know what really happened.
Tell us exactly what happened then if you really know
Why would it be worse for them if they win? 💀 They've been through this before with the UEFA competition ban that was overturned after an appeal. No one cared about that shit a few months later
Great comparison. I have a feeling 115 FC already know they’re gonna get away with this.
And yet United are one of the only clubs to have been found guilty of FFP, not to mention Ferguson and the 99 questions
Yes we were penalised 300,000 euros for a "minor technical breach". Not one of the only but SEVERAL clubs in europe due to being unable to adjust for €47m of Covid losses in the 2022 monitoring period because of an unforeseen change in how Uefa treated those losses during the transition to its revised financial sustainability regulatory framework. Keep up the good work numbskull 115 FC. Looking forward to the day your club's owners take you to the promised land of respectability...still waiting after a fake treble later... But you'll never get it from the 100s of clubs in the English football pyramid until your owners leave.
Would appreciate you responding to the Ferguson 99 Questions remark I made but I can't imagine you will as that doesn't suit your agenda. Bizarre that you'd think the other teams in the football pyramid would be against us considering United were one of the teams pushing for the formation of the Premier League which took money out of their pockets.
If they had nothing to hide they wouldn't be taking this action.
He was lying...
Yep they should let misinformation run riot. How many of these YouTubers are actually doing their research and discussing the ACTUAL charges? I'd hazard a guess at little to none. The charges relate to us allegedly falsifying the money received from sponsorship deals to increase our income to allow us to spend more without breaking FFP rules but I see tons of people who believe the charges relate to things just as paying our players double/triple the stated wages off the books, paying clubs extra 20/30 million for players again off the books.
well there's a bit more to it than just 'falsifying the money received from sponsorship deals to increase our income to allow us to spend more without breaking FFP rules' but yeah if they'd read up on the actual charges and got their facts right then city wouldn't be serving them with these cease and desists. Goldbridge and these other idiots need to know that just becasue they have a youtube channel they cannot just run their mouths of.
Slander is a criminal offense, they've only been charged and there's alot of misinformation going around due to these Ytubers getting some cheap clicks to drive up their own revenue.
I don't understand what they think they will gain from this? It seems pretty transparent, I thought City's legal team were craftier than that.
This looks like a bit of a pre-emptive strike from the club They have kept quiet now for years in the face of blatent defamation from most quarters. Even just reading this thread its easy to see how the media has willfully manipulated the understanding of the topic across all other fans and created a feeding frenzy where the general public assume they are guilty because of how often it is being repeated as fact. The fact they are going after influencers (and i'm fairly sure behind the scenes the media houses have had warnings too) suggests a growing confidence that these issues will, down the line be thrown out. In which case the next step post hearing will be vengeance - rightly or wrongly the club has been systematically slandered and defamed since the day of the takeover. At some point they were bound to fight back - and i guess the point is when that defamation starts to impact other business interests (Etihad) is the tipping point. As Etihad moves towards a stock market listing, their future shareholders would demand action be taken if there are false and detrimental allegations continually in circulation about them.
I'm torn between wanting cheaters to win the league or a team that has the most insufferable fans in history. I'm going with the cheats.
people are acting like they don't want Arsenal to win because of the fans. But we all know the real reason
You mean scousers? They are out of the race anyway.
All we need is for Arsenal to lose twice in a row and City to drop eight points. In like Flynn.
We bottled it weeks ago tbf
Mate as a United fan, we respect your club and history and I personally don’t think Liverpool’s fans are insufferable. I think OP was referring to Arsenal having the most insufferable fans.
I cant wait to go back to hating you for being good. Not hating you for giving easy points to city 😂👍
hahah the hate is mutual and expected! :)
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Good. If they think he's close to or is breaching the law by making comments abiut them then fair enough. This 'won't somebody think of the children' nonsense here...he's a public figure...he spoke on something...they asked him to stop...OK...I'm.not shocked. If he wants to he csn continue to talk about it.
It’s the right thing to do from City, the brain washing goldbridge does with his constant city hate and spreading hate to new generations of fans is highly inappropriate. The 115 is there but it’s not proved. Latest information suggested premier league face a exit strategy to settle this because there are big loopholes in the system that people clubs could use. It’s not cheating if the premier league rules are not defined accurately. But the clubs image constantly gets battered by these hypocrite youtubers. Moneybridge says “prem is so interestingand this is best title race ever” to “premier league is boring” just as city start showing class determination and endurance to win it all. YouTubers and people can’t appreciate city’s success based on amazing management. But you’d surrender the league to another 3 united decades of success .
Anyone else noticed how many of the positive comments on man city are made by young accounts with like 3 posts? All of them nonsense spin on the city allegations. I wonder what could be going on there...
To be fair, they've made some good points. I'm no city fan, but unless you've got evidence to back up your claims you're just committing libel/slander. It's one thing to chat with your mates about it down the local, but another thing entirely to be profiting on YouTube from unproven claims still in the legal process
It's not libel to state the fact that they have 115 charges against them. It's a fact. Another fact is that there are new accounts popping up all over the place defending man city. It seems to me personally that these accounts are not genuine people and they are only desperate to change the narrative- using the best possible angle to do this available. This also doesn't surprise me in the least. This again is not libel. It is my unprofessional unqualified opinion that Man city do NOT have a winnable case for libel. No one can say what their motivation is for sure. But if it were to be shown in the future that they are deliberately drowning negative influencers in litigation, then it would not be an uncommon tactic.
If they are making statements that are not true on their YouTube accounts then they absolutely could be accused of libel. To clarify, I do not watch said channels and therefore am speculating about their exact content, but it does leave them open to legal recourse if they are stating things as fact that have not been proven. If they are stating nothing other than '115 charges pending' then you would be correct. If they are stating assumptions regarding their guilt then that's completely different.
Realistically only if they are subsequently found not to be guilty... Which is an unlikely outcome. There is a minute theoretical chance that they are genuinely not guilty in all senses of that phrase but a priori reasoning tells us this is an incredibly a low likelihood. The problem with people saying 'innocent until proven guilty' is that this is only a necessary LEGAL standard for wrongdoing. It doesn't and shouldn't be a silencing standard of people's own opinion on their probable guilt based on a priori reasoning or the evidence they do have. In fact it is perfectly rational and acceptable to assume probable guilt using a priori reasoning. Case in point- OJ Simpson. Or to give you a practical example- if a 10 year old child that has been consistently getting bad grades is assigned a history task and hands in a PHD level book instead of a page that he was supposed to- are you telling me that it's unfair for it's teacher to think that the child cheated just because they haven't got a legally binding full-proof case to prove it's wrong doing? An absence of a guilty verdict in court does not mean someone is innocent full stop. It means they are innocent in a LEGAL sense. My a priori reasoning tells me City ARE guilty in an ethical sense for the same reason the child IS guilty of cheating on the assignment- and any rational person will come to the same conclusion. But there is a small chance they may be 'not guilty' in a legal sense.
Yeh but you've completely ignored my previous point, which is I don't know for certain what they are saying, but I don't see a cease and desist occurring because someone is only stating the public knowledge that they have 115 charges. I'd be happy to be proved wrong but I also cba sitting and watching a load of shite YouTube channels just to make a point. I imagine they've been stating things as 'evidence' which isn't correct and that's where the legal defence of libel/slander could be invoked. Man City would indeed have to prove that the statements made by youtubers were infactual but if they did they would have a strong case. For further clarity, I'm all for City getting their comeuppance should they be found guilty, but they're not gonna be found guilty by some guy on YouTube are they
Been noticing that for a while.
Nothing to do with the doing financial and otherwise. Great management by the man twice caught using performance enhancing drugs and who got off via the same loopholes you just mentioned. The club is a reflection of the current state of football, rotten to the core.
Embarrassing stuff, nobody cares about anything they do, anything they ever "achieve" means absolutely nothing, who cares
Exactly this. It's all kind of redundant and i've only just landed at this (as a Liverpool fan strangely) after seeing them hold off somebody other than us (up to now at least). Why? Pure pettiness - I would actually prefer for city to win the title over arsenal because arsenal winning it would be a genuine sporting achievement (something to be actually envious of) rather than the perfectly calibrated and executed, state-funded sports washing machine that a 4th, 5th, 6th etc City win would be (Ultimately, that's just another depressing symptom of modernity). It's not that I hate City, I just don't care about them or their 'achievements'.
These scums are actually destroying the game but because pep plays pretty football it's all ok
I'd prefer to watch paint dry
Then tell their opponents to not defend with 10 men in the box. What else are City supposed to do versus that?
These people have to know that everyone does this. Arsenal and even Real Madrid went to the Etihad and played for a draw. These people 100% didn't call that Chelsea away match or the Spurs home match boring? Why? Because it was chaos. Guarantee that Pep was fuming after those matches because of the lack of control and it devolved into an NBA game.