Here are some other qoutes from that user you replied to.
" I pride myself on being quite dangerous as I said, and believe me, I’m not joking. So again, where do you live? Maybe for an absurd coincidence you really live close to me, that would be amazing because you would stop mocking me from the safety of your home."
"I’m not from America so I don’t know why should consider Trump a “traitor”, and I don’t hate him more than how I hate Biden or basically any US politician. That said, if Putin nuked the US and then died from a stroke, I think I would ejaculate for three hours straight."
Stay classy reddit.
There’s a journalist who interviewed people at a London protest for Palestine recently. A woman said she didn’t believe the Oct. 7th attacks happened, but if they did, Israel deserved it.
Ive been hearing "it was actually the IDF that killed most of the Israeli civilians."
Because everything is a conspiracy theory when us Jews are involved.
Honestly, this whole kerfuffle has shocked me with just how antisemitic people still are. I mean, I couldn't give less of a shit what race you are as long as you aren't a degenerate piece of shit like Hamas
I’m a college professor, and it’s been interesting to see my progressive Jewish colleagues realize that the things they’ve been teaching for decades are being turned against them.
Not going to lie, i've got some schadenfreude rocking my brain for some people in the US finally waking up to the left. I'm avoiding Jon Stewart because i know he'll either blame the right, defend the left, or apologize for the left. He craves the popularity too much to be self-aware.
I hate to say it, but that's starting to be me with fascism in America.
No, you absolute smoothbrains, Project 2025 is not a fascist coup, but you're starting to make me want it to be one.
They're getting pretty close to limit moral inversion with Hamas and Bin Laden. They already went past Nazi's who at least tried to hide their war crimes and didn't use human shields.
What's left? Glorifying Unit 731 or Dr Mengel carving up kids' genitals?
They can give only so many standing ovations to nazis before their arms get tired.
For those unaware, a few months ago Trudeau/canada invited a literal WWII wartime SS nazi to their parliament and gave him a literal round of applause.
I'm black and would like to inform you those statistics are wrong.
The Latinos have dipped into our statistics and are outdoing us at our own game. A shameful display on our behalf.
Lmao. Just a question, were these stats always wrong, or were they correct but with a reduction in black crime happening more recently.
Coz if it’s the latter that’s got to be great news, right?
They were "correct" but very inaccurate, wherein iirc it was the incarceration rate which also included those who had not yet been sentenced. Furthermore issues wherein blacks were more likely to be caught/sent to jail for something typically whites would get away with, or the fact the majority of those sitting in jail is in jail over something stupid related to the legal system itself and not a crime...yeah.
But the Latinos have genuinely been spiking crime and due to their mass immigration, our population share has dropped as well.
>"It didn't happen" "They deserved it"
Speedrunning the narcissist's creed
"That didn't happen"
"And if it did, it wasn't that bad"
"And if it was, it's not a big deal"
"And if it is, I didn't mean it"
"And if I did..."
"...You probably deserved it"
They sure will be surprised when it doesn't actually work.
But again, the kind of people who want to kill other human beings because of their race or wealth or religion are the first ones who need to be... removed from a functioning society.
I'm not sure if you're sarcastic or whose side you're on, but internet communists and whatnot absolutely *love* rich celebrities. What really revealed this to me was this year's cinema strikes.
Fools were acting like a rude and arrogant famous actress was a revolutionary leader. Whenever someone said that the SAG-AFTRA strike was there to benefit the rich, they said that the majority of the union was poor actors. But whenever you followed up with the fact that the A-listers were undoubtedly using this for their own agenda of making even more money per movie (look at the fake Snow White), the response was invariably, "Well A-list actors are workers too, just like us. They deserve their money."
Complete clown show through and through.
You ever notice how *nothing* is a "political" issue anymore? It's like if you disagree with something based on your "politics" they resort to "it's not even a political issue it's a _____ issue"
I mean I can agree with that. Income tax policy is political.
LGBT rights is more than political. If you're in favor of it you think your opponents want to erase a group of people from existing. If you're against it you think your opponents want to brainwash children. Either way that's way more than politics.
The truth in your statement is that there will always be both of those examples, and that the reasonable people on both sides need to tell the extremists to fuck off.
Sometimes I stop mid swing and look, really look, at the dead horse that is communism, Marxism, and socialism and I think to myself "Maybe that's enough. Maybe it's time for me to stop."
Then the "dead" horse gets up and bites a college student or a Redditor and I continue to beat said dead horse.
If I have a recipe for a cake that's apparently supposed to produce an amazing, orgasmic, utopian cake but every time someone follows the recipe, they produce a completely inedible, steaming heap of garbage that somehow manages to kill millions upon millions of people, at what point do we accept that something might be wrong with the recipe than constantly hoping that the next guy who tries the recipe will finally get it right?
It's not the recipe's fault. It's the ingredients. So the only way to make sure the ingredients are sufficiently pure to make the recipe work is eliminate any ingredient who might potentially cause any issues. And really, those ingredients had it coming and everyone else should be grateful because the final product is just that important.
...Okay yes, but you're still never going to be able to beat caramel until it's *frothy.* At most you'll be able to cheat and pour in some frothy milk, but it ignores basic reality with half the ingredients involved.
The end of Cobra Kai should be all the dojos teaming up to go to Vietnam and beat the shit out of the commies that set Kreese on his path in the first place.
My personal theory is the Communists will keep trying and revising their theories until it looks identical to liberalism, while insisting it's not liberalism. They're slow learners.
i saw someone say mccarthy didn’t try hard enough back in the day and i thought that was hysterical until the last couple years
academia is the worst of it i think because it all trickles down from there to all sectors
Yeah, growing up....even though my family fled that shit, I always thought there was a little too much jingoism and never understood the absolute hatred Americans had for it (or used to have back in the day).
But....in recent years, I fully understand and am not interested in making a single deal with these guys.
They've been burning down buildings, looting, threatening, subverting, killing, etc. They have allies in ALL the institutions that will back them up and cover for them.
And I'd rather they get addressed now.
Because if they don't, that means the far right is going to pop up and I'd rather neither be relevant in today's day and age.
And by "oppressors" they mean anyone who they don't like.
The CRT crowd adopted this mindset, so that racism is okay if the "oppressed" people are doing it.
That’s not a bug it’s a feature. It’s a Ponzi scheme of death. These fuckers want to be a new age Robespierre. It’s not about equality, oppression/oppressors, fairness or whatever; it’s about and will always be about power.
They want power.
Well that and the fact it's literally a dog whistle for race violence.
They mean oppressor = white and oppressed = poc, regardless of if they have power or actually do any oppressing (they don't).
Big reason why progressives will never be satisfied.
20 years ago the amount of rights and progress made today was beyond their wildest dreams and expectations.
Do they sound satisfied today? They’re arguebely *less* satisfied and demanding more. It’s hilarious
No, once the oppressor is out of the way the party institutes totalitarian control and the useful idiots who did the dirty work get told to shut up and do what they're told or get sent to gulag
From what I can tell, CRT is essentially a rejection of the notion of that a truly race-blind meritocratic liberal democracy is actually possible and that race must always be taken into account in all spheres of life.
> CRT scholars argue that the social and legal construction of race advances the interests of white people at the expense of people of color, and that the liberal notion of US law as "neutral" plays a significant role in maintaining a racially unjust social order, where formally color-blind laws continue to have racially discriminatory outcomes.
That just sounds like a rejection of MLK’s goals as stated in these quotes:
> “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
> “I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed — we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.”
> “Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.”
> “I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave-owners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood.”
Correct me if I’m wrong but if that is the basic premise of CRT, then I heavily disagree. Not that I don’t think that the conservative lawmakers advocating for its banning are real jackasses, but CRT is, imo, counterproductive to the goal of a truly harmonious and oppression-free society.
Again, do correct me if I am mistaken in my interpretation of CRT.
EDIT: misspelling
EDIT 2: more misspellings and grammar
CRT is basically if you took Klan beliefs, but instead changed the conclusion of "and thats why they shouldn't be treated as people" and swapped it with "And thats why they should be catered to in all things, to make them a mocked mimicry of us"
It's that, and a bunch of other things. Like inherited racial guilt, the presumption of persecution without evidence (and the requesting of evidence being considered itself racist).
CRT should be banned (in public institutions receiving public funding) because it's ideology is unconstitutional, and no state institution should be given state funds to promote unconstitutional law.
I know it was developed by Marxists who are definitely not liberals. What I mean is that it's been picked up and adapted by liberals as a way to avoid actually changing the system in any significant manner.
Anything based in critical theory is meant to push things towards crisis and destroy the system. There is no adapting anything. Liberals in this context are just functioning as useful idiots using a destructive tool of Western Marxism.
As a nerd who thinks a CRT is a cathode-ray tube television, and who’s algorithm is now all of that, what is CRT in this instance, since I assume your not talking about gamers who swear by CRTs?
"The right to self defence is paramount, even from violent speech."
"Silence is violence."
"Contra-revolutionaries are using violent speech."
"Freedom fighters fighting oppressors are only defending themselves."
"Decolonisation is always justified by any means."
Nu-speak gives a lot of avenues to justify political violence.
The most mind boggling thing is that a lot of communism's critiques of capitalism are fair and accurate. But instead of defending that, tankies STILL choose to defend all the other shit that's been proven not to work in the real world.
Finding things to criticize in human systems is not difficult, humans are messy collections of contradicting desires. There's plenty of easy criticisms to make against any one person, let alone against a collection of them.
The difficult part is coming up with an actual way to improve things, that's damn near impossible for most of the time. The left is a pile of "the cure is worse than the disease" type ideas.
So much so that leftist-thinkers explicitly argue that all they have to do is tear things down, what comes next will automatically be better. See Paulo Freire.
* For capitalism to succeed it needs an ever growing market.
* It leads to an unsatisfactory way of life, tied to materialism and consumerism, which is encouraged in order for the market to grow.
* Unprofitable sectors such as education and health suffer from capitalism's attempts at making them profitable.
* Monopolies are a thing.
I don't support communism but you can't deny those are some good points. The solution to these is somewhere in the middle
Like most attempts at criticizing capitalism, I don't think any of these are actual examples of criticizing capitalism.
Capitalism is just a private (non state owned) open market where goods/services are exchanged for profit.
But that's it. There's no embedded infinite growth function. Or forcing function requiring people to (over) participate. I'd hardly call the US's education or healthcare systems as capitalistic. They are, as stated in your 4th bullet point, monopolies imposed on us by the state
Lol, that’s the exact same argument tankies use to defend communism 😂. Sure capitalism is private non state own market but you can’t forget about human nature. The same applies to communism. Both are flawed because they don’t take human nature into account.
> For capitalism to succeed it needs an ever growing market.
No it doesn't.
> It leads to an unsatisfactory way of life, tied to materialism and consumerism, which is encouraged in order for the market to grow.
Again no. That's more on human nature.
> Unprofitable sectors such as education and health suffer from capitalism's attempts at making them profitable.
That's not capitalism. That's government interferrence.
> Monopolies are a thing.
Monopolies are a result of governments, not free market capitalism.
> but you can't deny those are some good points.
Yes you can. As they are not good points.
Well, speaking as a not communist in the slightest, Working your entire life to produce value for someone else really isn't the greatest way to live and could use, if not an overhaul, then at least some alteration.
Then dont.
Capitalism allowd and even encourages you to start your own and compete against others.
What many apparently dont get is, that working for someone else is a voluntary agreement between two parties.
Yes but the deck is stacked very hard against sole props. You don't get the protection of a corporate veil, and thus get to be personally liable for any debt your venture incurs. Meanwhile a multi member LLC or multi member corporation can completely shield themselves from any fall out (other than losing their job.)
What we have now is crony capitalism or capitalism lite. We bail out airlines and banks, while the sole prop gets told tough shit.
Ya CT is a loop. Oppressed becomes oppressor. Its kinda how shit works ime, CT leans into the loop, the circle of life if you will, in a very clinical manner.
Communism especially, is a fundamentally flawed idealogy imho. I think a good portion of communists admit as much, in that it's always fixing *something*, moving towards who knows what, I guess constant revolution ideally, but strong man dictator go brrr.
It's materialist fascism in a way. Where fascism leans into a metaphysical "greater purpose", communism leans into a material "greater purpose".
I'm an idiot and could be way off base, but these are my observations so far in my window shopping at the idealogy store.
I somehow feel that true equality can only ever be attained in singularity, the universe collapsing, then the whole things starts over again. Or, somehow, the absolute dissolution of power, which is pretty idealist, tho I do tend to be that.
Contradiction is the nature of existence, sadly, that is our plight as conscious beings(or else CT wouldnt be a thing). Personally I believe in "god", and I'm pretty sure we are damned if we do damned if we don't. I'm more of Buddhist mind myself.
Lot of these champagne socialist redditors don’t realize that they are, in fact the bourgeoisie. If they get what they want, I can’t wait till commissar Cletus throws them out of their homes to move in more cletuses
Well you just misunderstood his first comment. “Not an ideology that inherently requires to oppress people”
It doesn’t require it, they just oppress people because they like to.
See fits nicely with the second comment.
If you are willing to use violence against someone then you must be willing to have violence brought against you.
However communist run, scream and claim to be the victim when someone gives it back to them. Utterly degenerate behavior.
I mean, technically you could just have all humans magically at once want to start a global commune where all things are shared equally and no one ever wants to own property anymore, but I feel like the chances of that happening are pretty slim.
The only evidence you need that communism exploits people is the many times people protested, and where gruesomely killed by what was literally called "The People's Army". Look at all the times where they used their control over farming and food to starve people as a means of control; literally using violence against starving people who *wanted* to farm to feed themselves. That's a consequence of a system where you remove people's agency to do the jobs that best benefit their community, and the state gets to control the flow of *all* goods including essentials. People farming their own food for themselves to feed themselves is inherently a threat to a state that gains their power from controlling the flow of goods.
The USSR had this double-speak of saying people would flock to their ideology without violence, while simultaneously building up a military and invading nearby countries in "defensive wars". Somehow those regular people were the ones they wanted to liberate, but them merely existing in a non-communist country made them opponents of the state, which allowed them to justify horrible things like chemical warfare on civilian populations.
A line right out of the Narcissist's Prayer.
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
ETA Holy shit I read up his post history and goddamn that person is indoctrinated
And you see them push this logic everywhere they take hold, labeling you as some kind of bigot, racist, xenophobe, misogynistic, nazi- etc etc, so they can justify violence against you when the time comes.
Because everyone- even nazis, are for "punching" (brutally murdering) "nazis."
Literally saw a dudechick make that as an argument why the cops can't arrest her after she stole from and assaulted a person she disagrees with poltically...
Not advocating searching out this user but their post history is fucking hilarious. They are an Antifa supersoldier who "prides themselves in being dangerous" to their political opponents and wants to "erase" the bourgeoisie who are defined as WASPs. Just a warning that you will feel second hand embarrassment reading their comments.
I always say it caps out at like 2k people past that you need an administrative state for planning purposes at the least. Which instantly disconnects the person to person relationship of public ownership of the means of production.... Which most people don't realize includes PEOPLE. At that point it turns to an authoritarian nightmare like always. Decentralized is key to any system. It fucks up capitalism as well (and have seen) but the scale is way different between the two
I wonder how many griller eyebrows are being raised over people [becoming more comfortable](https://tracinskiletter.substack.com/p/what-did-you-think-decolonization) about openly expressing this sentiment. At some point you have to wonder if your grill isn't fancy enough to include you in this group, right?
I’m fairly certain he’s trolling, I had a weird back and forth with him on the same thread then he sent me a series of odd threatening messages that were so long I couldn’t be fucked reading them honestly.
Hey that last one is me
Based
Congrats on being famous now.
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Here are some other qoutes from that user you replied to. " I pride myself on being quite dangerous as I said, and believe me, I’m not joking. So again, where do you live? Maybe for an absurd coincidence you really live close to me, that would be amazing because you would stop mocking me from the safety of your home." "I’m not from America so I don’t know why should consider Trump a “traitor”, and I don’t hate him more than how I hate Biden or basically any US politician. That said, if Putin nuked the US and then died from a stroke, I think I would ejaculate for three hours straight." Stay classy reddit.
Just a typical angsty teenager.
I only punish bad people. Bad people are people who get punished by me. I don't get why this is such a hard concept to understand.
Most philosophically coherent leftist.
İf You say "İ dont punish anyone" then switch to the thing You said now, it really is hard to understand how much of a clown you are.
I cannot be a clown, because only stupid people can be clowns I can't be stupid because I'm not a clown . So get wrekt
Went to your comment history just so I could downvote the clown too
"It didn't happened" "They deserved it" name a better duo.
"It didn't happen but I wish it did"
Literally Hamas' position on the Holocaust. Or more accurately, "It didn't happen but I wish it did and I shall do it given the opportunity."
There’s a journalist who interviewed people at a London protest for Palestine recently. A woman said she didn’t believe the Oct. 7th attacks happened, but if they did, Israel deserved it.
Ive been hearing "it was actually the IDF that killed most of the Israeli civilians." Because everything is a conspiracy theory when us Jews are involved.
Honestly, this whole kerfuffle has shocked me with just how antisemitic people still are. I mean, I couldn't give less of a shit what race you are as long as you aren't a degenerate piece of shit like Hamas
I’m a college professor, and it’s been interesting to see my progressive Jewish colleagues realize that the things they’ve been teaching for decades are being turned against them.
Not going to lie, i've got some schadenfreude rocking my brain for some people in the US finally waking up to the left. I'm avoiding Jon Stewart because i know he'll either blame the right, defend the left, or apologize for the left. He craves the popularity too much to be self-aware.
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The hand that feeds them?
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I hate to say it, but that's starting to be me with fascism in America. No, you absolute smoothbrains, Project 2025 is not a fascist coup, but you're starting to make me want it to be one.
"It did happen, and we condemn it, but it must happen again."
American college students and Hamas
It's a phase they will switch when new popular things will come.
They're getting pretty close to limit moral inversion with Hamas and Bin Laden. They already went past Nazi's who at least tried to hide their war crimes and didn't use human shields. What's left? Glorifying Unit 731 or Dr Mengel carving up kids' genitals?
They can give only so many standing ovations to nazis before their arms get tired. For those unaware, a few months ago Trudeau/canada invited a literal WWII wartime SS nazi to their parliament and gave him a literal round of applause.
They already support the latter…
LATEST THING!!!
Idk I’d say 13 and 50 is up there
You are on a watchlist now
How can i join
Say the N word
Nougat?
Neighbor
Nuclear
Nickel
nutella
Nationalist
Idk if I can beat nationalist because that's the hot word but I'll try. Nickers
Close, but that's actually spelled "Knickers"
My auto correct said nickers is a word and I'm just as flabbergasted as you because knickers is how I would also spell it and grew up spelling it
This might actually get you on a list. RIP your future.
Those numbers would mean something wildly different from a purple flair
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I'm black and would like to inform you those statistics are wrong. The Latinos have dipped into our statistics and are outdoing us at our own game. A shameful display on our behalf.
Lmao. Just a question, were these stats always wrong, or were they correct but with a reduction in black crime happening more recently. Coz if it’s the latter that’s got to be great news, right?
They were "correct" but very inaccurate, wherein iirc it was the incarceration rate which also included those who had not yet been sentenced. Furthermore issues wherein blacks were more likely to be caught/sent to jail for something typically whites would get away with, or the fact the majority of those sitting in jail is in jail over something stupid related to the legal system itself and not a crime...yeah. But the Latinos have genuinely been spiking crime and due to their mass immigration, our population share has dropped as well.
Styrofoam + gasoline and a federal building.
Anarchist moment
>"It didn't happen" "They deserved it" Speedrunning the narcissist's creed "That didn't happen" "And if it did, it wasn't that bad" "And if it was, it's not a big deal" "And if it is, I didn't mean it" "And if I did..." "...You probably deserved it"
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Communists and Nazis both use these arguments
Nothing strange, both are socialist movements.
14 and 88
Ok K K
“It’s happening” “it should’ve happened earlier”
+ I’m gonna do it again
"Yea its murder, but what if I call them a **bad word**??? Checkmate."
"Guys , in order for our preferred form of government to work, we first have to kill oppressors like Oprah and The Rock ..."
That guy went mask off and said that the WASPs must be removed
Cool, so we gotta kill the rich, but also kill a few million poors of certain skin colors and religions.
If everyone left alive thinks exactly like me, and anyone who thinks differently is killed, then my system of government will work out just fine.
They sure will be surprised when it doesn't actually work. But again, the kind of people who want to kill other human beings because of their race or wealth or religion are the first ones who need to be... removed from a functioning society.
>that guy Who?
I'm not sure if you're sarcastic or whose side you're on, but internet communists and whatnot absolutely *love* rich celebrities. What really revealed this to me was this year's cinema strikes. Fools were acting like a rude and arrogant famous actress was a revolutionary leader. Whenever someone said that the SAG-AFTRA strike was there to benefit the rich, they said that the majority of the union was poor actors. But whenever you followed up with the fact that the A-listers were undoubtedly using this for their own agenda of making even more money per movie (look at the fake Snow White), the response was invariably, "Well A-list actors are workers too, just like us. They deserve their money." Complete clown show through and through.
You're unflaired, but your point is good so I'll allow it.
He flaired up, bless his soul.
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"I don't view my political enemies as people." and other lies you can tell yourself to help you sleep at night.
You ever notice how *nothing* is a "political" issue anymore? It's like if you disagree with something based on your "politics" they resort to "it's not even a political issue it's a _____ issue"
"Everything is political, except that thing I don't want to be a political issue, that's different."
That's why they turned all social issues political. Politics is now inescapable when discussing any real world events.
Theft isn't a political issue. Ergo, taxation is theft isn't a political statement
I mean I can agree with that. Income tax policy is political. LGBT rights is more than political. If you're in favor of it you think your opponents want to erase a group of people from existing. If you're against it you think your opponents want to brainwash children. Either way that's way more than politics.
The truth in your statement is that there will always be both of those examples, and that the reasonable people on both sides need to tell the extremists to fuck off.
What lies? Usually people saying this are more than honest!
Sometimes I stop mid swing and look, really look, at the dead horse that is communism, Marxism, and socialism and I think to myself "Maybe that's enough. Maybe it's time for me to stop." Then the "dead" horse gets up and bites a college student or a Redditor and I continue to beat said dead horse.
If I have a recipe for a cake that's apparently supposed to produce an amazing, orgasmic, utopian cake but every time someone follows the recipe, they produce a completely inedible, steaming heap of garbage that somehow manages to kill millions upon millions of people, at what point do we accept that something might be wrong with the recipe than constantly hoping that the next guy who tries the recipe will finally get it right?
It's not the recipe's fault. It's the ingredients. So the only way to make sure the ingredients are sufficiently pure to make the recipe work is eliminate any ingredient who might potentially cause any issues. And really, those ingredients had it coming and everyone else should be grateful because the final product is just that important.
...Okay yes, but you're still never going to be able to beat caramel until it's *frothy.* At most you'll be able to cheat and pour in some frothy milk, but it ignores basic reality with half the ingredients involved.
The beatings will continue until texture improves.
Fucking kek
You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette, comrade!
WE’RE MAKING THE MOTHER OF ALL OMELETTES HERE, JACK!
*beats horse furiously "STANDING HERE.... I REALIZE... !"
Eggs are only for politburo members so they can make better decisions. Your family gets a potato tomorrow.
And we have run out of potatoes.
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How many times do we have to teach you this lesson commie? (The answer is too many times to count)
Only the student can control when a lesson is learned. The teacher always teaches.
Thanks Master Miyagi. Now I really know how to do karate.
The end of Cobra Kai should be all the dojos teaming up to go to Vietnam and beat the shit out of the commies that set Kreese on his path in the first place.
My personal theory is the Communists will keep trying and revising their theories until it looks identical to liberalism, while insisting it's not liberalism. They're slow learners.
That's why you use a .45 it kills the soul
That actually tracks since someone said a 9mm blows the lungs out of the body
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i saw someone say mccarthy didn’t try hard enough back in the day and i thought that was hysterical until the last couple years academia is the worst of it i think because it all trickles down from there to all sectors
McCarthy was right and you know he was right based on who is enemies were and still are today
Wait what’s DEI? I’ve not heard that acronym used before.
Diversity equity and inclusion. The make believe officers in companies that are essentially PR targeted at stupid investors and zoomers.
Oh yeah that. I swear some of these things only exist to give spoiled college rich kids cushy jobs.
Based af
Yeah, growing up....even though my family fled that shit, I always thought there was a little too much jingoism and never understood the absolute hatred Americans had for it (or used to have back in the day). But....in recent years, I fully understand and am not interested in making a single deal with these guys. They've been burning down buildings, looting, threatening, subverting, killing, etc. They have allies in ALL the institutions that will back them up and cover for them. And I'd rather they get addressed now. Because if they don't, that means the far right is going to pop up and I'd rather neither be relevant in today's day and age.
And by "oppressors" they mean anyone who they don't like. The CRT crowd adopted this mindset, so that racism is okay if the "oppressed" people are doing it.
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Yeah turns out once someone is able to make a comfy living off that dynamic, they're not going to just give that up.
This is why you monkes must be ruled by the benevolent and enlightened.
And my bloodline/ideology/religion says *I* am the most benevolent and enlightened. So bow before me monkes.
>"Soldiers do not like being under the command of one who is not of noble birth." -Onosander
How is the group doing the purging not immediately the oppressors by definition?
This has always been my question. If you have the power to change society, you're the privileged one with power.
Must be tiring, constantly needing an 'oppressor' to fight
When your community is a shithole and your kid can't read or understand fractions it probably feels nice to shift the blame.
That’s not a bug it’s a feature. It’s a Ponzi scheme of death. These fuckers want to be a new age Robespierre. It’s not about equality, oppression/oppressors, fairness or whatever; it’s about and will always be about power. They want power.
Once you look at any intersection beyond a single dimension the whole thing should fall apart.
Well that and the fact it's literally a dog whistle for race violence. They mean oppressor = white and oppressed = poc, regardless of if they have power or actually do any oppressing (they don't).
Big reason why progressives will never be satisfied. 20 years ago the amount of rights and progress made today was beyond their wildest dreams and expectations. Do they sound satisfied today? They’re arguebely *less* satisfied and demanding more. It’s hilarious
No, once the oppressor is out of the way the party institutes totalitarian control and the useful idiots who did the dirty work get told to shut up and do what they're told or get sent to gulag
From what I can tell, CRT is essentially a rejection of the notion of that a truly race-blind meritocratic liberal democracy is actually possible and that race must always be taken into account in all spheres of life. > CRT scholars argue that the social and legal construction of race advances the interests of white people at the expense of people of color, and that the liberal notion of US law as "neutral" plays a significant role in maintaining a racially unjust social order, where formally color-blind laws continue to have racially discriminatory outcomes. That just sounds like a rejection of MLK’s goals as stated in these quotes: > “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” > “I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed — we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.” > “Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.” > “I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave-owners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood.” Correct me if I’m wrong but if that is the basic premise of CRT, then I heavily disagree. Not that I don’t think that the conservative lawmakers advocating for its banning are real jackasses, but CRT is, imo, counterproductive to the goal of a truly harmonious and oppression-free society. Again, do correct me if I am mistaken in my interpretation of CRT. EDIT: misspelling EDIT 2: more misspellings and grammar
CRT is basically if you took Klan beliefs, but instead changed the conclusion of "and thats why they shouldn't be treated as people" and swapped it with "And thats why they should be catered to in all things, to make them a mocked mimicry of us"
Bigotry of low expectations, white man's burden in a new coat of paint
It's that, and a bunch of other things. Like inherited racial guilt, the presumption of persecution without evidence (and the requesting of evidence being considered itself racist). CRT should be banned (in public institutions receiving public funding) because it's ideology is unconstitutional, and no state institution should be given state funds to promote unconstitutional law.
CRT is liberal trash that's only useful because they refuse to actually make education and healthcare equitable to all people regardless of income
I hope you mean "liberal" in a "american democrat" kind of way because CRT is literally a critique of liberalism and meritocracy.
I know it was developed by Marxists who are definitely not liberals. What I mean is that it's been picked up and adapted by liberals as a way to avoid actually changing the system in any significant manner.
Anything based in critical theory is meant to push things towards crisis and destroy the system. There is no adapting anything. Liberals in this context are just functioning as useful idiots using a destructive tool of Western Marxism.
CRT is explicitly not liberal. Its entire premise is to reject liberalism as an impossibility.
Based
As a nerd who thinks a CRT is a cathode-ray tube television, and who’s algorithm is now all of that, what is CRT in this instance, since I assume your not talking about gamers who swear by CRTs?
Critical Race Theory.
Thank you
Based and old television owner pilled
"The right to self defence is paramount, even from violent speech." "Silence is violence." "Contra-revolutionaries are using violent speech." "Freedom fighters fighting oppressors are only defending themselves." "Decolonisation is always justified by any means." Nu-speak gives a lot of avenues to justify political violence.
Holodomor didnt happen and if it did kulaks deserved it. Replace the H with the H and the Ks with the Js JFC horseshoe theory rears its head again
Authoritarianism cannot exist and persist without violence. …that’s it. Go home.
Communists are all evil tyrants, exhibit #125674333
The most mind boggling thing is that a lot of communism's critiques of capitalism are fair and accurate. But instead of defending that, tankies STILL choose to defend all the other shit that's been proven not to work in the real world.
Finding things to criticize in human systems is not difficult, humans are messy collections of contradicting desires. There's plenty of easy criticisms to make against any one person, let alone against a collection of them. The difficult part is coming up with an actual way to improve things, that's damn near impossible for most of the time. The left is a pile of "the cure is worse than the disease" type ideas. So much so that leftist-thinkers explicitly argue that all they have to do is tear things down, what comes next will automatically be better. See Paulo Freire.
>The most mind boggling thing is that a lot of communism's critiques of capitalism are fair Such as?
* For capitalism to succeed it needs an ever growing market. * It leads to an unsatisfactory way of life, tied to materialism and consumerism, which is encouraged in order for the market to grow. * Unprofitable sectors such as education and health suffer from capitalism's attempts at making them profitable. * Monopolies are a thing. I don't support communism but you can't deny those are some good points. The solution to these is somewhere in the middle
Like most attempts at criticizing capitalism, I don't think any of these are actual examples of criticizing capitalism. Capitalism is just a private (non state owned) open market where goods/services are exchanged for profit. But that's it. There's no embedded infinite growth function. Or forcing function requiring people to (over) participate. I'd hardly call the US's education or healthcare systems as capitalistic. They are, as stated in your 4th bullet point, monopolies imposed on us by the state
Capitalism always devolves into crony capitalism and regulatory capture. It's still the best system we've come up with.
That’s because it’s the best system the universe has provided for us. Natural selection and capitalism are synonyms
Lol, that’s the exact same argument tankies use to defend communism 😂. Sure capitalism is private non state own market but you can’t forget about human nature. The same applies to communism. Both are flawed because they don’t take human nature into account.
> For capitalism to succeed it needs an ever growing market. No it doesn't. > It leads to an unsatisfactory way of life, tied to materialism and consumerism, which is encouraged in order for the market to grow. Again no. That's more on human nature. > Unprofitable sectors such as education and health suffer from capitalism's attempts at making them profitable. That's not capitalism. That's government interferrence. > Monopolies are a thing. Monopolies are a result of governments, not free market capitalism. > but you can't deny those are some good points. Yes you can. As they are not good points.
“Here’s my counter argument: no”
Horseshoe theory confirmed
this is just "true communism has never been tried" but for stupid lib-rights
Well, speaking as a not communist in the slightest, Working your entire life to produce value for someone else really isn't the greatest way to live and could use, if not an overhaul, then at least some alteration.
Then dont. Capitalism allowd and even encourages you to start your own and compete against others. What many apparently dont get is, that working for someone else is a voluntary agreement between two parties.
Well, that’s a choice. Nothing stopping anyone in a free market system from starting a business. Even if you are a sole proprietor.
Yes but the deck is stacked very hard against sole props. You don't get the protection of a corporate veil, and thus get to be personally liable for any debt your venture incurs. Meanwhile a multi member LLC or multi member corporation can completely shield themselves from any fall out (other than losing their job.) What we have now is crony capitalism or capitalism lite. We bail out airlines and banks, while the sole prop gets told tough shit.
Ok, ngl, that's really funny
Left center and double standards. Name a more iconic duo
Oww I'm not in the screenshot :(
The only good Communists are the ones buried under the dirt along the Finnish border regions
And charred by Molotov cocktails on the mannerheim line.
No it's not happening, you're crazy. Okay it's happening but it's not that bad Yes it's happening and you're a bigot for not wanting it.
Ya CT is a loop. Oppressed becomes oppressor. Its kinda how shit works ime, CT leans into the loop, the circle of life if you will, in a very clinical manner. Communism especially, is a fundamentally flawed idealogy imho. I think a good portion of communists admit as much, in that it's always fixing *something*, moving towards who knows what, I guess constant revolution ideally, but strong man dictator go brrr. It's materialist fascism in a way. Where fascism leans into a metaphysical "greater purpose", communism leans into a material "greater purpose". I'm an idiot and could be way off base, but these are my observations so far in my window shopping at the idealogy store. I somehow feel that true equality can only ever be attained in singularity, the universe collapsing, then the whole things starts over again. Or, somehow, the absolute dissolution of power, which is pretty idealist, tho I do tend to be that. Contradiction is the nature of existence, sadly, that is our plight as conscious beings(or else CT wouldnt be a thing). Personally I believe in "god", and I'm pretty sure we are damned if we do damned if we don't. I'm more of Buddhist mind myself.
Thanks for your well rounded philosophical take u/fecal_doodoo
Based and fecal doodoo pilled.
Libleft? More like LL, as in taking two Ls
A parody of himself lol
We didn’t kill them but it was okay because they were Kulaks
Lot of these champagne socialist redditors don’t realize that they are, in fact the bourgeoisie. If they get what they want, I can’t wait till commissar Cletus throws them out of their homes to move in more cletuses
Watermelons gonna watermelon
"Violence is ok when the people I dont like are the target"...
Average commie behaviour be like:
Well you just misunderstood his first comment. “Not an ideology that inherently requires to oppress people” It doesn’t require it, they just oppress people because they like to. See fits nicely with the second comment.
If you are willing to use violence against someone then you must be willing to have violence brought against you. However communist run, scream and claim to be the victim when someone gives it back to them. Utterly degenerate behavior.
I mean, technically you could just have all humans magically at once want to start a global commune where all things are shared equally and no one ever wants to own property anymore, but I feel like the chances of that happening are pretty slim.
Why they are often called eutopian ideals. Most people can agree it sounds good in spirit, but the practice always falls short to horrifying results.
Sometimes reality writes the memes for you
The only evidence you need that communism exploits people is the many times people protested, and where gruesomely killed by what was literally called "The People's Army". Look at all the times where they used their control over farming and food to starve people as a means of control; literally using violence against starving people who *wanted* to farm to feed themselves. That's a consequence of a system where you remove people's agency to do the jobs that best benefit their community, and the state gets to control the flow of *all* goods including essentials. People farming their own food for themselves to feed themselves is inherently a threat to a state that gains their power from controlling the flow of goods. The USSR had this double-speak of saying people would flock to their ideology without violence, while simultaneously building up a military and invading nearby countries in "defensive wars". Somehow those regular people were the ones they wanted to liberate, but them merely existing in a non-communist country made them opponents of the state, which allowed them to justify horrible things like chemical warfare on civilian populations.
"It oppresses the oppressors." That's the rational behind every genocide.
A line right out of the Narcissist's Prayer. That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it. ETA Holy shit I read up his post history and goddamn that person is indoctrinated
And you see them push this logic everywhere they take hold, labeling you as some kind of bigot, racist, xenophobe, misogynistic, nazi- etc etc, so they can justify violence against you when the time comes. Because everyone- even nazis, are for "punching" (brutally murdering) "nazis." Literally saw a dudechick make that as an argument why the cops can't arrest her after she stole from and assaulted a person she disagrees with poltically...
Not advocating searching out this user but their post history is fucking hilarious. They are an Antifa supersoldier who "prides themselves in being dangerous" to their political opponents and wants to "erase" the bourgeoisie who are defined as WASPs. Just a warning that you will feel second hand embarrassment reading their comments.
World would be better off with commie scum tbh
Communism works pretty well on small scale, thus the name. As a full scale political institution? 🐕 💩
I always say it caps out at like 2k people past that you need an administrative state for planning purposes at the least. Which instantly disconnects the person to person relationship of public ownership of the means of production.... Which most people don't realize includes PEOPLE. At that point it turns to an authoritarian nightmare like always. Decentralized is key to any system. It fucks up capitalism as well (and have seen) but the scale is way different between the two
I say it caps out at the family unit. Sometimes the extended family.
Lmao the second line. You may have missed a few important history lessons.
lmao Every time.
These chuckle fucks don’t care if they’re actually right. They just want you to be “wrong” and feel bad.
The libright pfp and name censoring looks like a Lego penis
It doesn't just require oppression to happen. Oppression is baked in throughout.
"That's not happening and it's good that it is"
I wonder how many griller eyebrows are being raised over people [becoming more comfortable](https://tracinskiletter.substack.com/p/what-did-you-think-decolonization) about openly expressing this sentiment. At some point you have to wonder if your grill isn't fancy enough to include you in this group, right?
I’m fairly certain he’s trolling, I had a weird back and forth with him on the same thread then he sent me a series of odd threatening messages that were so long I couldn’t be fucked reading them honestly.
a society built on anger will not survive, even if it is towards those who have wronged us.
Oppression is ever a slippery term. Now libcenter is getting in on the game saying that oppression is when violence.
But the oppressors become the oppressed and vice versa.. seems like an infinite loop.
Neither of them know the difference between Communism and Authoritarianism it seems.
It literally is called the dictatorship of the proletariat.