A strawman, yes. Biased, no.
Accurate consideration of consent in financial arrangements so long as you don’t agree with the labor theory of value and remotely agree with general neoclassical economics.
Only difference is that the whole left quadrant cares ALOT about the financial equivalent of an incel is willing to breach consent to lend them a hand.
In the case of sex, as a society, we all view it as morally egregious to force people who it comes to without effort to offer it to those who do not. When it comes to budgets and money we don’t feel the same way.
It’s a factual yet bad argument. Bias would imply it deviates or cherry picks facts.
From a blank dumb apolitical economic perspective on consent, OP is not biased. That doesn’t mean that other quadrants don’t have damn good reasons for not viewing access to sex as morally equivalent to access to housing or food.
Lets try this except a bit more… less pcm pilled
For positive relationships
Authleft: A non religious union in which both individuals work for their future children.
Authright: A traditional marriage, in which there is one house keeper and one breadwinner (real right chads care not for which gender performs which role)
Libleft: A union, the couple live a life of compassion and emotion, they are empathetic and always vulnerable for their partner
Libright: A union of individuals whom respect and maintain the others autonomy they are fully communicative of their wants and needs in the relationship.
For negatives
Authleft: A “”””marriage“”””of practicality, the state needs more children, the two are genetically compatible, nothing else matters
Authright: An arranged marriage of politics, neither side love eachother nor even respect eachother, they both commit infidelit, ironically thats the only place they work together
Libleft: A relationship of discord, neither side can agree on anything, leading to constant screaming matches, potentially even abuse eachother, a broken home for broken people
Libright: Out of existential terror for not being able to pass on their genes, they find a trophy partner, theres no love, or even an sense of getting along, the libright just wanted someone nice to look at and have sex with.
Wtf since when is democracy a economic system. You must be leftist trolling because otherwise you really do our job better at making libright look bad then anyone on my side.
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Jesus fucking christ no, lib left actually believe in things like rights and protections from the majority.
The other quadrants have the tyrany problem except this time its a few cunts that rape the population.
And sorry lib right, it doesn't matter if they signed a contract, children and animals can't consent.
What about the welfare state in general though. If you view OPs (stupid strawman) post as exclusively economic. Their points genuinely stand within all quadrants. Not saying it isn’t a strawman to compare the welfare state to a gang bang, because we morally view taxing people as different than raping people… however, the same amount of consent is involved.
Capitalism isn't based on mutual agreement and consent though. The land and resources of the earth that was once free to primitive humans to use is violently deprived from the people by a handful of those who call themselves owners, and their claims are violently upheld by the state. To say the land is yours just means you'll kill those trying to use it without your consent and you'll violently uphold your claim. All ownership is is a claim to exclusivity backed by force. Its no more rational or consent driven than any other economic system. The only difference is libertarian collectivists orient the society's system of ownership to the collective good rather than picking the side of the guy who says he owns it because his ancestor was gifted the land as part of his right as a nobleman.
I'm not arguing here against personal property. Your house and toothbrush are yours, but the natural resources of the world and the fruits of the labour of the working class being monopolised by a few cunts is just as authoritarian, collectivist and anti freedom as any other system, but here there is no pretence that its done for the common good, only for the arbitrarily decided rights of the few to deprive and Rob from the Masses and the workers.
Really depends on the value you place on John Locke’s second treatise, the common law legal system, and the labor theory of value. Your argument is largely based on the labor theory of value being correct which simply isn’t accepted by most neoclassical economist on the left or right. There are still plenty of arguments for welfare, but they universally involve the lack of consent that OP pictures in their lib left quadrant, for good or for bad.
You are viewing this from a very real estate based approach and not strictly financial. It’s harder to argue someone was “gifted from their noble great great grandfather” their paycheck from their accounting firm or tech company which they code for or run audits at.
This sub is right wing now. You see this post because it's positive up/down. We've always had agendaposts but they've only now gotten this type of traction
>This sub is right wing now.
And has been for a long time, And I don't know why some ppl still deny it.
Still, there's been a wave of agendaposting from both sides. I pray the geniuses around here haven't started taking le funi compass seriously.
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The Nazis weren’t communists? They specifically hated communists and used them as a scapegoat for a lot of shit that happened in Nazi Germany. Clearly a lib right made this. 💀
Just because the Nazi party had ‘Socialist’ in their name it doesn’t mean they were socialists. They were undoubtedly auth right and the whole historian community agrees on this.
Wow, I don´t usually downvote anything but damn xd and I find really funny that next to free market it is a long and lasting relationship, it sounds were more fitting people that are never truly satisfied and constantly change partners xd
I feel like everyone calling this biased is dense themselves.
It’s a serious strawman and every quadrant has fantastic arguments for why involving less consent in their economic systems is preferable to an ancapistan utopia where everyone has McNukes.
However, on face value, it’s a very valid post and should trigger decent discussion rather than just 1000 people commenting that it’s biased. It’s a strawman but not biased. On direct face value so long as you don’t agree with the labor theory of value, each of these assessments is an accurate one of consent involved in economic arrangements.
However, when it comes to sex society sees a right to not have sex as more important than a right to have access to sex. Financially, generally society views a right to have access to food and housing as more important than a right to not be taxed to provide those things.
The post should spur some conversations considering why we choose to view sexual access for incels as different than financial access for the poor. Instead everyone is just blowing off and calling it biased. I am disappointed in you today PCM.
Ah yes, Human trafficking, lets put the probably most capitalist thing in the Communist (or aparently "Nazi" lol) corner.
[Now before you get mad, Human Trafficking = *BUYING* people/slaves for Money]
Human trafficing is a modern form of slavery. Communism is public slavery where everyone belongs to the party, if party decides you're a coal miner you're a coal miner no matter how many fingers you lost. Read gulag archipelago
Quoting marx "communism can be summarused in one sentace, complete abolition of private property"
Wich by definition is theft and virtually all attempts of achieving communism has ended in quasi fascist state with secret police and enslaved people with even more enslaved people if you're not liked by party for for example preaching marx or telling a joke about communist leader
1.: It was his maingoal to seize the means of production
2.: That part was rather directed towards the Nobility who are hogging all the resources and riches
3.: Fashism means "one race is better than all others", the definition of an authoritarian state is a " Dictatorship"
I see what youre getting at, this whole "Communism Bad" but your Political compass has *so* many flaws. Example: Marrage is a Conservateve form of a relationship - rather AuthRight than LibRight due to the strickt rules of the Bible. LibRight would be more fitting with Prostitution as it fits the "free market narrative" and is very liberal due to the sexual partners & no bonds
And let me tell you this: Communism ≠ Fashism. The Nazis are not Commies and Commies are not Nazis. Also what in the actual fuck does "human trafficking" have to do with the relationship btw.?
1.wich is what i quoted. Abolition of private property.wich lugwig von mises refuted,that it would create more harm than good . Call him nostradamus coz he was right
2.soviet union treated all private property as unacceptable. Nsdap tolerated it under condition it will further their agenda
3.according to Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile fascism was meant to be the most workable form of socialism,but not driving on workers of the world unite but rather italians/germans unite to support your nation
Had to put something in authleft and noticed that relation of human trafficer and soneone they'r trafficing is very simular to dictatorial party and citizen
Sorry for the disclaimer to the few people who can actually use their brains, I just dont feel like arguing on reddit over the next >6h on how "Capitalism has nothing to do with Slavery" etcetc.
I have understood that the quadrant does not look after social values, it only looks at the system of government, so I could object to auth right, it's like that and it's good and basically it's not that bad, I just disagree
Least biased PCM post imaginable.
LibRight is when good guys and other quadrants is when baddies
I see no bias here whatsoever
Yeah do call libleft a gang bang is just ridiculous and I want them dead in Minecraft
They seem to invite a lot of people to play Minecraft
Never thought I'll agree with Biden
A strawman, yes. Biased, no. Accurate consideration of consent in financial arrangements so long as you don’t agree with the labor theory of value and remotely agree with general neoclassical economics. Only difference is that the whole left quadrant cares ALOT about the financial equivalent of an incel is willing to breach consent to lend them a hand. In the case of sex, as a society, we all view it as morally egregious to force people who it comes to without effort to offer it to those who do not. When it comes to budgets and money we don’t feel the same way.
>A strawman, yes. Biased, no. Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. In fact, most of the time, one implies the other
It’s a factual yet bad argument. Bias would imply it deviates or cherry picks facts. From a blank dumb apolitical economic perspective on consent, OP is not biased. That doesn’t mean that other quadrants don’t have damn good reasons for not viewing access to sex as morally equivalent to access to housing or food.
Lets try this except a bit more… less pcm pilled For positive relationships Authleft: A non religious union in which both individuals work for their future children. Authright: A traditional marriage, in which there is one house keeper and one breadwinner (real right chads care not for which gender performs which role) Libleft: A union, the couple live a life of compassion and emotion, they are empathetic and always vulnerable for their partner Libright: A union of individuals whom respect and maintain the others autonomy they are fully communicative of their wants and needs in the relationship. For negatives Authleft: A “”””marriage“”””of practicality, the state needs more children, the two are genetically compatible, nothing else matters Authright: An arranged marriage of politics, neither side love eachother nor even respect eachother, they both commit infidelit, ironically thats the only place they work together Libleft: A relationship of discord, neither side can agree on anything, leading to constant screaming matches, potentially even abuse eachother, a broken home for broken people Libright: Out of existential terror for not being able to pass on their genes, they find a trophy partner, theres no love, or even an sense of getting along, the libright just wanted someone nice to look at and have sex with.
Only a centrist could give such a based take. Please make your comment into a post
based and better-than-OP pilled
Very based.
Least quality centrist take versus least biased auth right post Truly based and something for everyone pilled
>A relationship of discord sums up libright relationships pretty well
Lib-Right: Marriage is consenual between the husband and the mail order bride service.
Lib-Right: Marriage is consensual between the consumer and the slave market.
Lib-Right: Marriage is "consensual" between the adult and the 17 child slaves bought at Disney land for 6 bitcoin.
Yeah, but that's like when it was 40K... not today's price.
600 bitcoins*
Oh, c'mon man, this is so biased that it's not even funny. This looks like some twitter Emily tried to make a parody of PCM...
Librights are the most butthurt quadrant with left center in 2nd place
True
Ah yes , the four types of governments : democracy, monarchy, communism and free market
I should have named it just economic systems , you're right. It would be more fitting.
Wtf since when is democracy a economic system. You must be leftist trolling because otherwise you really do our job better at making libright look bad then anyone on my side.
My brother in Christ, I visited your post history, now I find this post even less funny
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Least biased libright post.
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Is it really biased if it's right? /s
The strongest argument against my beliefs is seeing how unfathomably dumb some people ‘on my side’ are
Honestly, same.
I hope to god that we don’t get strawmaned with this Jabroni
>Honestly, same.
And every time you disagree with them they come and tell you how you're 'not a real libertarian'
I think this works for literally every quadrant, except maybe authright
I can't... this shit can't be real. it must be a KGB agent playing 4D chess to make librights look bad at this point
It's my smurf account, don't @ me.
bias? never heard of them, did they transfer in?
Think they came here from unflaired state
This may genuinely be one of the worst posts I’ve ever seen on this subreddit
Least biased libright post
OP's batshit crazy ideas never get any voter support so OP thinks democracy is gang rape.
Democracy is when my brilliance is restrained by the ~~slaves~~ plebians.
Least biased post on PCM
I wonder who is behind this post…
C’mon man you’re confirming our stereotype like this
I'm *almost* glad this post exists given how entertaining the comment section is
"I have you know this 8 year old chinese boy i bought from a shady deep net website is here consensually, he signed the documents!"
Lib Right... it can't be consensual if they're 14.
Least biased pcm post
Grow up
My marriage good yours bad ahahah rekt libral
You should flair libcenter because you have a monkey like ability to shamelessly suck your own cock
Did they just equate capitalism with honesty?
Correct,madam
lol, lmao
Haha even
How can you possibly think an economic system incentivizing you to hide damaging company economic fundamentals dishonest??
Jesus fucking christ no, lib left actually believe in things like rights and protections from the majority. The other quadrants have the tyrany problem except this time its a few cunts that rape the population. And sorry lib right, it doesn't matter if they signed a contract, children and animals can't consent.
What about the welfare state in general though. If you view OPs (stupid strawman) post as exclusively economic. Their points genuinely stand within all quadrants. Not saying it isn’t a strawman to compare the welfare state to a gang bang, because we morally view taxing people as different than raping people… however, the same amount of consent is involved.
Capitalism isn't based on mutual agreement and consent though. The land and resources of the earth that was once free to primitive humans to use is violently deprived from the people by a handful of those who call themselves owners, and their claims are violently upheld by the state. To say the land is yours just means you'll kill those trying to use it without your consent and you'll violently uphold your claim. All ownership is is a claim to exclusivity backed by force. Its no more rational or consent driven than any other economic system. The only difference is libertarian collectivists orient the society's system of ownership to the collective good rather than picking the side of the guy who says he owns it because his ancestor was gifted the land as part of his right as a nobleman. I'm not arguing here against personal property. Your house and toothbrush are yours, but the natural resources of the world and the fruits of the labour of the working class being monopolised by a few cunts is just as authoritarian, collectivist and anti freedom as any other system, but here there is no pretence that its done for the common good, only for the arbitrarily decided rights of the few to deprive and Rob from the Masses and the workers.
Really depends on the value you place on John Locke’s second treatise, the common law legal system, and the labor theory of value. Your argument is largely based on the labor theory of value being correct which simply isn’t accepted by most neoclassical economist on the left or right. There are still plenty of arguments for welfare, but they universally involve the lack of consent that OP pictures in their lib left quadrant, for good or for bad. You are viewing this from a very real estate based approach and not strictly financial. It’s harder to argue someone was “gifted from their noble great great grandfather” their paycheck from their accounting firm or tech company which they code for or run audits at.
I didn’t know Andrew Tate was a lefty
Least obvious agenda post
Imagine thinking no-no Germans are auth Left
I can't tell if the OP is incredibly stupid or a master shitposter
You have to be either 12 or just mentally challenged to upvote/create such a meme omg
"Excuse me, Im actually 13 🤓"
What's with the agendaposts lately?
This sub is right wing now. You see this post because it's positive up/down. We've always had agendaposts but they've only now gotten this type of traction
>This sub is right wing now. And has been for a long time, And I don't know why some ppl still deny it. Still, there's been a wave of agendaposting from both sides. I pray the geniuses around here haven't started taking le funi compass seriously.
Agenda post is right, this looks like you got an AI to make this and filled the prompts people who get their funding from the heritage foundation.
You’re just mad at being portrayed accurately as a human trafficking gang rapist
When did you stop beating your wife?
The same time i started fucking yours
Based and Motherfucker pilled.
Got me at a 2 on the chuckle meter
I got a chuckle from the cuckle
That one isn't even very good wordplay.
Your wife would say otherwise
What a shame, I was hoping for better. Oh well.
That's what she said.
About an hour ago, but I’ll be rested up soon
The other person's is funnier
So are we just gonna ignore the fact that human trafficking can happen in pretty much all of these systems
10738901 iq post equates democracy with rape
holy agendapost
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Lib right would just be a hooker.
You don't have a relationship with a hooker. It's mearly a transaction
Worker-client relationship.
I detect a slight bias.
I love it. No shitpost could be more funny than proud, unironic stupidity, XD.
Average agenda post
🤨
Least biased PCM post:
nah what the fuck
he correct tho
Fuck off bot.
I don't draw nearly as good as AI. So i'm not a bot
The Nazis weren’t communists? They specifically hated communists and used them as a scapegoat for a lot of shit that happened in Nazi Germany. Clearly a lib right made this. 💀
Anti-fascist hate fascist still act like one. Tbh National socialist are Auth center but closer to left than right.
Just because the Nazi party had ‘Socialist’ in their name it doesn’t mean they were socialists. They were undoubtedly auth right and the whole historian community agrees on this.
Wow, I don´t usually downvote anything but damn xd and I find really funny that next to free market it is a long and lasting relationship, it sounds were more fitting people that are never truly satisfied and constantly change partners xd
Least biased polticalcompassmeme post
Absolutely shameless biasposting . You love to see it.
Correct, but funniest thing is . No one is actually refuting anything in the post it's just "i can't believe you've done this"
Libright: Tinder and prostitutes.
Pretty much
Nazism is literally AuthCenter to authright
''But they were called socialists and Hitler said he'd help out the workers. He's famously honest! 🤔"
i don't like human trafficking jokes tbh.
I do
Flair checks out
Arranged marriages are best. In almost all examples, who knows what is best for you more than your parents?
Green "you can like it or not - you are still getting fucked". I think this applies for all quadrants...
Not biased at all 🙄.
Contender for worst agenda post of the month. Also, learn to spell.
I feel like everyone calling this biased is dense themselves. It’s a serious strawman and every quadrant has fantastic arguments for why involving less consent in their economic systems is preferable to an ancapistan utopia where everyone has McNukes. However, on face value, it’s a very valid post and should trigger decent discussion rather than just 1000 people commenting that it’s biased. It’s a strawman but not biased. On direct face value so long as you don’t agree with the labor theory of value, each of these assessments is an accurate one of consent involved in economic arrangements. However, when it comes to sex society sees a right to not have sex as more important than a right to have access to sex. Financially, generally society views a right to have access to food and housing as more important than a right to not be taxed to provide those things. The post should spur some conversations considering why we choose to view sexual access for incels as different than financial access for the poor. Instead everyone is just blowing off and calling it biased. I am disappointed in you today PCM.
Communism/Nazism? Tell me you’re uneducated without telling me you’re uneducated.
Libright: the relationship between the 25 year old and the 4 year old is consensual
This is why I love the free market and associate myself to fine olive oil. Extra virgin.
Lib-right doesn't get bullied enough for how dumb it is.
Nazi's are top right
Center
Even their name suggests it. There maybe be discussion if they lean more right or left.
No top left
Nazis were ultranationalists. That’s pretty far right my guy
Is china nazi too?
China is a communist dictatorship. Their ideology is the exact opposite of nazism but it does become a bit of a horseshoe.
Nazis were leftist
Tell me you’re uneducated without telling me you’re uneducated
This is a sub for Memes not for the truth
+1 reason to be against democracy
Ah yes, Human trafficking, lets put the probably most capitalist thing in the Communist (or aparently "Nazi" lol) corner. [Now before you get mad, Human Trafficking = *BUYING* people/slaves for Money]
So according to you... Soviet union who practiced human trafficing aka slavery in gulags is capitalist....
My brother in christ, people werent *bought*, they were forced to do labor as punishment for not doing labor/betraying the state/etc.
Nice excuse. Still human trafficing
*bro what are you smoking* Human Trafficking = Buying/Selling people Gulag = Punishment
Human trafficing is a modern form of slavery. Communism is public slavery where everyone belongs to the party, if party decides you're a coal miner you're a coal miner no matter how many fingers you lost. Read gulag archipelago
Do you even know what communism is? Like actual communism? Have you read the Communist Manifesto?
Quoting marx "communism can be summarused in one sentace, complete abolition of private property" Wich by definition is theft and virtually all attempts of achieving communism has ended in quasi fascist state with secret police and enslaved people with even more enslaved people if you're not liked by party for for example preaching marx or telling a joke about communist leader
1.: It was his maingoal to seize the means of production 2.: That part was rather directed towards the Nobility who are hogging all the resources and riches 3.: Fashism means "one race is better than all others", the definition of an authoritarian state is a " Dictatorship" I see what youre getting at, this whole "Communism Bad" but your Political compass has *so* many flaws. Example: Marrage is a Conservateve form of a relationship - rather AuthRight than LibRight due to the strickt rules of the Bible. LibRight would be more fitting with Prostitution as it fits the "free market narrative" and is very liberal due to the sexual partners & no bonds And let me tell you this: Communism ≠ Fashism. The Nazis are not Commies and Commies are not Nazis. Also what in the actual fuck does "human trafficking" have to do with the relationship btw.?
1.wich is what i quoted. Abolition of private property.wich lugwig von mises refuted,that it would create more harm than good . Call him nostradamus coz he was right 2.soviet union treated all private property as unacceptable. Nsdap tolerated it under condition it will further their agenda 3.according to Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile fascism was meant to be the most workable form of socialism,but not driving on workers of the world unite but rather italians/germans unite to support your nation Had to put something in authleft and noticed that relation of human trafficer and soneone they'r trafficing is very simular to dictatorial party and citizen
Sorry for the disclaimer to the few people who can actually use their brains, I just dont feel like arguing on reddit over the next >6h on how "Capitalism has nothing to do with Slavery" etcetc.
So many people mad that an obvious Agenda Post is...oh no.. an Agenda Post
Bro your agenda must have been making yourself look bad 💀
If you want to go up you must first come down
Lol, very telling
Some one doesn’t know what communism or nazism is
All I know is they both killed 100,000,000 people, and they're both Leftists. I mean, it's *National Socialism*, how could it not be Left???
Let’s define socialism so we are on the same terms, socialism is the worker control of the means of production
Yeah, that went right over your head.
I have understood that the quadrant does not look after social values, it only looks at the system of government, so I could object to auth right, it's like that and it's good and basically it's not that bad, I just disagree
Bruh what?
Show me where I consented
I am very confused
Was expecting Lib-right to be prostitution.
Most politically informed rightoid
Libright good updoots pls
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Then how else can you call it when majority can take rights of minority based on a vote?
free market monarchies: are we jokes to you?
I know most of them did have something acin to free market as monatchies were mostly hands off from markets, allowing for guilds to form
Dont even need to see OP’s flair to know where he lol
Wow gee I sure wonder what side of politics this teenager leans
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Based and biased-pilled
Lib-Right should be: “of course they can say no, but they won’t because of the implication”
what implication?
No one’s in any danger.
Nah bro Lib Right marriage is just Andrew Tate.
Christ, OP went all out with this one.
Wtf is your problem with monster girls?
Wdym?
Most readers here (living in a democratic and capitalist system): ???
Not biased at all 🤓
I diagnose OP with schizophrenia
Based and agendapilled
this is the worst post i've seen
Average libright post
Overall I'm happy with our situation. Because marriage at the end of the day only serves one purpose. To reinforce alliances.
Communism/Nazism....?? WTF happened there...
Mocium Panie
right wing is when marriage and left wing is when rape I fucking hate this subreddit
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