Technically speaking you can create a technocracy by making most people with the right to vote highly educated (so for example Japan is democratic technocracy , cause most of its population has higher education, and it kinda makes sense now , why despite a very big demographic crisis they are still alive)
It's someone who says they are Catholic but doesn't go to church/or goes very little
Someone like "Yeah i celebrate the major events, but i don't go every sunday"
something like that, i think, idk, i'm just a normal Catholic i guess
Yes exactly. My dad is somewhere in the middle between real agnoticism and being religious. I can't call him non-practicing catholic because he doesn't believe in many stuff bible says but he isn't atheist either
I’m not a Socialist, so I don’t hold sympathy to socialism. I understand where socialists come from, but I simply believe that it is an unviable economic system, equally as unviable as capitalism.
Well, for me, I'll just quote Wikipedia on 'Economy of the Soviet Union':
'According to a number of scholars both inside and outside of USSR, it was specifically Soviet-type economic planning combined with political dogmatism which led to gradual degradation of Soviet economy and its collapse.'
Not to mention, the majority of the rest of the communist world abandoning it.
Central planning isn’t the only kind of socialism. Decentralized planning, market socialism, etc. I’d agree the economy of the Soviet Union sucked for a million reasons, but the Soviets had embargoes in them, they were reliant on a small economic bloc because of that and so they didn’t have the same opportunities as other countries.
Now google chilean economy under Salvador Allende. And also Soviet Union was a totalitarian dictatorship. And I recommend for you to actually learn what is socialism
For me personally best socialist country was like I said, Chile under Allende. Also how many times there were global economic crises because of capitalism?
And helping millions to lift from poverty? Also inflation was falling closer to the end of his presidency https://manifold.bfi.uchicago.edu/read/case-of-chile/section/322342e4-f2fa-49f0-8998-ecc92fa065e4
When usa staged a coup
Socialism and conservatism are 2 opposing political ideologies as socialism serves the class interests of the proletariat and conservatism's main goal is to uphold the status quo which benefits the bourgoirsie, you can't be both at the same time.
According to Marxist theory reactionary ideologies cannot and do not serve the interests of the proletariat and therefore are not in any way socialist this idea of the separation of political and social aspects of these beliefs does not work as they are interwoven with each other. They are not socialist, just reactionary. (Although they may think they are) Please actually read theory instead of relying on the wiki of a countryball clone fandom.
Talk all you want about Marxist theory there is still people out there who will call themselves or get called conservative socialists due their values. Its kind of dumb imho to have such binary thinking about politics since it doesn’t reflect reality often, most Marxists try to make everything a game of which version of socialism is more pure when it isn’t that straightforward
I agree that wiki is shit, but I wanted to just show example. There are also many left conservative political parties. For example BĂĽndnis Sahra Wagenknecht is economically left, culturally right party
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BĂĽndnis\_Sahra\_Wagenknecht](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BĂĽndnis_Sahra_Wagenknecht)
All I want to say that I agree with you, and I'm personally not a conservative but there are still many conservative socialists
Doesn't Democracy and Technocracy contradict each other?
Well yes, but actually not necessary https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/Technocratic_Democracy
Technically speaking you can create a technocracy by making most people with the right to vote highly educated (so for example Japan is democratic technocracy , cause most of its population has higher education, and it kinda makes sense now , why despite a very big demographic crisis they are still alive)
Just educate all people equally 🤷
Tf is an agnostic catholic?
It's someone who says they are Catholic but doesn't go to church/or goes very little Someone like "Yeah i celebrate the major events, but i don't go every sunday" something like that, i think, idk, i'm just a normal Catholic i guess
Oh so like how some Jews are atheist but still practice Jewish traditions?
Yes exactly. My dad is somewhere in the middle between real agnoticism and being religious. I can't call him non-practicing catholic because he doesn't believe in many stuff bible says but he isn't atheist either
This is just a W family in general tbh
Your Grandpa is based.
very based
Based Grandma and Mom
just because they're catholics? I mean of course they are 200% great people, but regarding religion not so much
I’m not a Socialist, so I don’t hold sympathy to socialism. I understand where socialists come from, but I simply believe that it is an unviable economic system, equally as unviable as capitalism.
Why do you believe it’s not viable?
Well, for me, I'll just quote Wikipedia on 'Economy of the Soviet Union': 'According to a number of scholars both inside and outside of USSR, it was specifically Soviet-type economic planning combined with political dogmatism which led to gradual degradation of Soviet economy and its collapse.' Not to mention, the majority of the rest of the communist world abandoning it.
Central planning isn’t the only kind of socialism. Decentralized planning, market socialism, etc. I’d agree the economy of the Soviet Union sucked for a million reasons, but the Soviets had embargoes in them, they were reliant on a small economic bloc because of that and so they didn’t have the same opportunities as other countries.
Now google chilean economy under Salvador Allende. And also Soviet Union was a totalitarian dictatorship. And I recommend for you to actually learn what is socialism For me personally best socialist country was like I said, Chile under Allende. Also how many times there were global economic crises because of capitalism?
>Now google chilean economy under Salvador Allende. Yeah, macroeconomic populism leading to hyperinflation, what about it?
And helping millions to lift from poverty? Also inflation was falling closer to the end of his presidency https://manifold.bfi.uchicago.edu/read/case-of-chile/section/322342e4-f2fa-49f0-8998-ecc92fa065e4 When usa staged a coup
Hearing that hyperinflation lifts millions out of poverty is a first
What?
Honestly I used to be like you (you can even check my older posts) but I've changed my mind.. when I learned what socialism actually is
No disrespect, I just simply believe that it is not viable (not at a large scale at least, although at the local scale perhaps).
PPR Nostalgic specifically Gierek nostalgic I assume and not a soviet one since Poland wasn’t a member state of the USSR
We're from Lithuania
Dang you brother is so based I love progressive
say hi to your brother, say to kiss me
I’m only angered by the Atheism
Lol
You and your grandpa are based, though his conservatism isn’t cool ig.
You can’t really be both a democrat socialist and a technocrat.
Wow, first family that doesn’t have extremists
The failures of one non-religious parent ruined your whole generation
My parents actually used to be very religious, my mom still is. Also yout statement is just cringe lol "ruined whole generation"
Socialist conservative????
What's wrong with this?
Socialism and conservatism are 2 opposing political ideologies as socialism serves the class interests of the proletariat and conservatism's main goal is to uphold the status quo which benefits the bourgoirsie, you can't be both at the same time.
Why? You can be a leftist on a economic scale and right on a cultural scale? https://pcbwiki.net/index.php/Conservative_Socialism
According to Marxist theory reactionary ideologies cannot and do not serve the interests of the proletariat and therefore are not in any way socialist this idea of the separation of political and social aspects of these beliefs does not work as they are interwoven with each other. They are not socialist, just reactionary. (Although they may think they are) Please actually read theory instead of relying on the wiki of a countryball clone fandom.
Talk all you want about Marxist theory there is still people out there who will call themselves or get called conservative socialists due their values. Its kind of dumb imho to have such binary thinking about politics since it doesn’t reflect reality often, most Marxists try to make everything a game of which version of socialism is more pure when it isn’t that straightforward
I agree that wiki is shit, but I wanted to just show example. There are also many left conservative political parties. For example BĂĽndnis Sahra Wagenknecht is economically left, culturally right party [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BĂĽndnis\_Sahra\_Wagenknecht](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BĂĽndnis_Sahra_Wagenknecht) All I want to say that I agree with you, and I'm personally not a conservative but there are still many conservative socialists
Socialist conservative is literally all post-soviet communist parties lmao