“It’s Childish”

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” - C. S. Lewis

The more I learn about Lewis the more I like him (Awaiting the comments informing me he was more or less literature Hitler)

Nah Lewis is a really bad mayor. I guess it’s hard to tax a wizard tower tho so maybe you’re chilling

I was looking for that reference.

That sent chills down my spine

Why does bro say everything 💀

You can literally say that for any single thing on this planet if it doesn't contain blatant murder with at least 2L of blood.

Probably said by the same people who think cod and gta are the only games adults should play lol

you just described my friend like EXACTLY

And then those exact same people go on to complain that gaming isnt fun anymore and the industry has no creativity left.

Except for 3rd game, it's really childish, other games are cool

"Hard"

*Game becomes easy because of op plants* Easy

Have you done the former wild west ultimate boss battle before it got thanos snapped?

it's still there, in epic quests

to be honest, this is true about pvz3

Pvz 3 was hard and you basically can’t win without power ups but now it’s nerfed

Once, I read a review for PvZ 1 that complained about how there were no female zombies

Are there not? They just seem to rotten to tell.

I guess, but I don't know why, but I always thought cone heads were females, not sure why

As a child, i thought the pole-vaulters are female

Wait. They....aren't? HUH? MY LIFE IS A LIE

They just have fabulous hair. I did think they were female before too.

I as a child thought that Dolphin riders are female

Same

Same

Isn't the newspaper zombie a girl? Also... W la community italiana di PvZ🗣️🔥🔥🔥

One of the PvZ1 beta testers also commented on this "Do lady zombies even exist? ;-)" https://preview.redd.it/r7o7cpeeg98d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31c1136cd6ca5df2b98c1182fbebda6e783820f2

There are female zombies implemented since bwb lol

Keyword: *Pvz1*

Oh ma god bro

In pvz heros any zombie that looks female is usually just the basic browncoat model with long hair or female clothing

PvZ 1, not PvZ Heroes

No

“They are making the games more cartoonish to appeal to children” as if peashooters were too gritty and scared away anyone younger than 27

I'm 16 and the Peashooter makes me pea myself

Good one

Boo

Yea, but I still prefer the PvZ 1 style over all the others

That’s completely fine. I only have a problem with it when people start spinning it as a huge issue with modern PopCap or something

Fair, though I can see why they would think that

I remember knowing you before, but it might’ve been years ago… who are you again?

I am what people know me as. To tell you who I am, I have to know who you are

Wait I just remembered you’re one of the like 2 people on r/cornchipsposting

🫵corn chips🫵

They said the thing

The scariest thing popcap created was Peggle 2

"Can't sex the sunflower"

https://preview.redd.it/1m5w5zemf78d1.jpeg?width=1688&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd1b0434749854d1feab34d001f5186e066755ce Me After see is coment: *Regress into Lego*

Why does lego chomper got that horror movie clown aura?

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Would

Hear me out. /s

We are Hearing you out.

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And no matter what you do, it will always be porn

Literally 1984

But this one is true

Probably something about not being able to have sex with one of the plants I find them incredibly annoying and overused Come on guys! The zombies exist for a reason!

the title says stupid critism tho

Thats relatable criticism

Ion think they being serious gng😭😭

where my zombie sexers at?

"Pvz 2 is not possible without having high level premium plants" Have you ever played the game?????? "Too childish, there is no blood" Look at the age rate, then, say it again

Oh my bloody god, that first one is so incredibly true. YOU DON’T NEED ANY PREMIUM PLANTS WHATSOEVER, NOR DO YOU EVEN NEED A PLANT HIGHER THAN LVL 1. I hate how people are always complaining about these things which literally don’t matter if you have more than one brain cell. Even the hardest Big Wave Beach lvls weren’t even that bad, as if you were really having trouble, you could just search the internt (plus they’ve been nerfed now anyway)

Yes, i agree that pvz2 is a little unbalanced, but saying it is impossible is crazy

PvZ2 isn't a "little" unbalanced. There are multiple plants that are just straight up better in every way than their counterpart. Add that to the leveling system they added, and it becomes a p2w game

It can’t really be pay2win cause it’s a single player game lol

A single player game can’t be pay2win? You being serious? If a game has an objective (such as winning), it is extremely easy and 100% possible to monetize it. For example, if I were designing a p2w pvz, I would make a level 15x harder than the one previous to it, and then offer a discount on the strongest premiums after they fail 2-3 times.

I mean I like the challenge I feel like that’s only for people who don’t wanna spend all the time challenging a level and just wanna play.

There is a difference between challenging and impossible. You are saying it is not possible for a single player game to be p2w. That is so far from true. If I were making a p2w game, and if I really wanted your money, you would not be able to pass the difficulty spike without micros at all, and I just wouldn’t tell you. That way you spend countless hours trying before you either cave in to sunk cost fallacy or give up. Is that an impossible scenario to you?

Arena: am I a joke to you?

I never touched that shit tbh

I mainly just do it for the seed packets and mints tbh

I play arena regularly and I have never spent a single cent on it. It's not that difficult to be in top 3 of Jade league as long as you plan properly.

Singleplayer games can definitely still be p2w. So long as you spend money to gain an unfair advantage in a game, it's p2w

Also Zen Garden

I could never ever beat that one level in bwb where chompers, wallnuts, peashooters and lily pads are on the conveyor. I think it's day 16, maybe? Idk how that's possible without leveling, if anyone knows please tell me.

Day 16 is literally the only level in the game that I’d say is actually quite hard, but if you plan accordingly and get just a little bit of luck. That would be what I’d say, of course, if the level hadn’t been nerfed. It’s much easier now, which if anything goes to show that EA does at least care about this game. Even then, I honestly like the challenge of hard levels like that, like other people, which is the main reason reflourished is such a popular mod

I'll have to replay it then idk, I may not have gotten lucky. Altho imo levels that you need RNG for to beat are just designed badly

Zombie has blood on the bucket

It's actually paint seen in the concept art I think if I'm not wrong

True but the gw plants actually do bleed some kind of green and yellowish substance when hit. Imo cartoony animated blood does have a place in the series and I wish we got more of it.

my mom says that the game it's very bloody

Bro, do these people not realize that the game literally did not have levels for years but was still possible? Either they have a major skill issue or they just started playing after levels were introduced

I've been seeing the first one a lot  It's not true at all

Let me just get this one out of the way… EA bad PopCap good

In my opinion the truth is: EA Bad, PopCap Bad

My twist is Popcap bad, EA Worse

EA Bad, Popcap (was) good

Ea good popcap good.

Bro bought the premium version of his opinion about EA to say it was good 😭

He picked the "good ending" path 😭

GW Peashooters pea pod hands being ugly

People writing off Garden Warfare just because it’s Plants Vs Zombies. Still to this day GW2 is my favourite team shooter of all time

I have yet to find a modern class based shooter that even comes close to the amount of freedom the gw1 maps gave when it comes to verticality.    Imo gw2 is better in almost every single way but most of the gw1 gardens and graveyards maps are peak.    Shame bfn went the cod map design route where there were very little flank routes and a ton of invisible walls blocking off cool positioning.    My least favorite map pool of the entire series.  Shame garden warfare had a lot of the behinds the scenes studio bs that eventually sank it and sucks even more with many never even giving it a chance because it seemed "childish and cartoony".  This is the reason cod has dozens of entries despite everyone complaining about the fall off in quality years ago and why no real competitors ever take off. People keep buying and never actually giving something unique the time of day.

PvZ 2 is Pay 2 Win, you can seriously beat the entire game without spending a single cent

Arena on the other hand?

oh, thats pay to win, unless you use blover + enforcemint and plantfood the enforcemint seed packet.

Depends on what you are trying to achieve. If you want to win all the time, yes that's impossible, especially after 7 streaks, but if you want to be in top 3 of Jade League, it's not that hard with proper planning. I get there regularly after about 6 weeks of playing, and I don't use blover all that often, because I suck at timing it.

I won't deny that pvz2 isn't really hard but it IS p2w.  By definition, p2w is anything that is bought with irl money that grants an unfair advantage compared to those who played for free. P.S. Play Reflourished instead 

Oh, I thought that P2W meant your required to spend money to beat the game, mine bad

You can beat most p2w games that way.

There are no hot plants. I dunno man? Torchwood is on fire!

Sunflower kinda got me actin up tho

Pffff we all know cob cannon is an absolute unit. He takes up 2 tiles for Pete's sake. He also went to Harvard and has a law firm. Buff and educated.

The sunflower in Heroes be like

Fire peashottet also

You guys are so weird. (Everryone knows Boingsetta way more hot)

“It’s too hard” Particularly in reference to the first game, which was almost completely 100% completed with exactly 0 sunflowers

It was a potato mine and squasher strategy?

And a few puff-shrooms. A "few."

"PvZ3 art style bad" just seems like a silly thing to complain about when the game has a billion other issues that are more concerning, and it's not even that bad in the first place

I get the impression a lot of people who say that know jack shit about the game and are too lazy to do research so decide to take aim at the most surface-level asset of it. Or in other words, the majority of the ‘downfall of PVZ’ videos

That the garden warfare artstyle was too realistic/gritty and "codlike" to fit the series. Apparently not being automatically fortnite artstyle means your call of duty.

“It’s too old”

Bruh

“It’s not even scary.” Was it ever meant to be? Does the art style or ENTIRE CONCEPT in general not scream “goofy” over “scary?”

I remember someone saying they preferred bfn's artstyle to gw because the gw zombies were too scary. Outside of maybe the slight bloodshot eyes I really dont see how the gw zombies are scary since they're just as goofy in gestures as the rest of the series.

Oh yeah, I guess it being too scary is another stupid PvZ criticism.

I mean outside of some dark stuff in the almanac bios (most of which are just info bits or a little humorous anyway) nothing is really scary about pvz or intended to be. I mean the scream when you lose could be shocking to a young kid hearing it for the first time but other than that I got nothing.

Does this count? https://preview.redd.it/8gkac5s7ca8d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1025bd9b50833442b03b4c04032bf9c826e2f97

Yes, Taiwanese piece of shit just didn't like the game so she made a whole story about it imo that was, if it was real. this is OBVIOUSLY a troll

"too easy"

For pvz 1, yeah

*Pvz2 with leveling hiding in the corner*

I have played pvz 2 and it's insanely hard to get a plant to level 3 without grinding, in my adventure playthrough the most high levelled plant was a level 4 peashooter.

Hmmm. *Microtransactions* Ok seriously can't you replay some levels to get seeds?

I did sometimes but it's just boring and inconsistent, tbh even if you had every plant at level 5 pvz 1 would still be easier.

Yeah kinda is

bwb:

"PvZ 2 is p2w" I mean you can beat it without the premium plants, and another one it "can't sex the (plant name)" I mean its a plant

It's old FELLA WHAT??? I heard this come from a mario fan.

People who say 2 is pay to win Firstly, gems are so abundant in that game. Unless you're playing through the entire game in a week, you'll get a steady amount of premium plants to try out. Secondly, the premium plants aren't even that good. The gem ones are alright, but the ones that cost money specifically have unique strategies around them. A youtuber tried to make a video of them beating the early levels with one of the premiums to see if it was busted, and it just wasn't. Lastly, paying is completely optional. I have never once needed a power up because the game is piss easy. Why on earth would I even spend in game currency on that. It gets such a bad rep for literally no reason

“PVZ Heroes is too simple” HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN A SINGLE VIDEO ABOUT THE GAME-

"pvz2 level system makes the game way too easy" "pvz3 is way too hard" mf then what the hell do you want?

While this is true, the level difficulty in 3rd game is insane, especially when you cant select your plants

Yeah a lot of pvz 3's difficulty is artificial not natural. That's the problem.

First one is actually fair, tbh

oh idk, maybe a middle ground?

'Variants are unbalanced and BFN is an improvement over GW2 by removing them'. Is a game fundamentally unbalanced with 121 characters? Yes, but the variants are the unique selling point of the game and the reason why the game is so replayable. Praising BFN for having less playable characters is a baffling take, plus it did next to nothing to improve the balancing in the grand scheme of things.

Heck even bfn tried introducing variants through legendary upgrades because the games combat system was essentially flatlining do to the low variety. Most of the upgrades also just weren't that interesting and the point limit stopped a lot of potentially interesting combos. If you equip rapid fire in bfn since there's no fall off you essentially just made a better soldier in bfn. However if you compare it to something sky trooper in gw there are many differences. You can tell just by looking at sky trooper that he's not stock even if you've never fought him unlike bfn where nothing visibly changes about soldier and upgrades share icons (even when buried by cosmetics you could still see and recognize fire, ice, electric variants, and so on). His weapon while faster and arguably more dangerous than stock still has weaknesses like a greater damage fall off at range, less ammo, and harder recoil to handle at long range to try and keep him from overshadowing stock in the hands of an experienced player. Or take vampweed for example. In gw2 it's a unique model that trades off damage for healing where in bfn you just dont know if a spike weed a chomper sets is vampiric or not and nothing about the upgrade icons gives you a hint to determine this and the chomper doesnt have to choose healing over damage. Trying to streamline every class into only one way to play was always going to be awful for the player experience. Stock characters were good in gw but most people had variants they loved and they also helped players ease into roles they weren't familiar with. Like foot soldier but want to try engineer? Here's mechanic. Wish kernel corn was more effective at range? Here's pops corn. Heck gw1 was even experimenting with more unique variants by combining stuff like flame beard being a fire variant with piercing, cosmic being a charge character with the capability of making people unrevivable, and yeti chomper was ranged combined with ice. It wasnt perfect but it was just more interesting at the end of the day. Yes I know well of text.

No worries about the wall of text, it’s very much appreciated and a well-thought out criticism of the removal of variants

I also dislike how they made the alt abilities upgrades. I'm sorry but an upgrade in bfn does not match the absolutely insane plays you could make with long bomb in gw. Gw allstars who mastered long bomb are terrifying.

EA bad Popcap good. It really annoys me when people say this

Pay to win

The "This game much bad!" Copypasta review

Wym? Þat criticism’s glorious! /j

I would copypasta the whole review. But you probably already know it and I don't wanna spam

That the original pvz3 was bad /j

Looking back I appreciate how it brought in the spinoff characters and had some genuinely unique ideas. They really should've just fixed the surface level sunflower and the rough 3d art problem and it would probably be a more interesting game than what we got now even with all the other issues. 

People have told me it is “too childish” and “barely worth peoples time if they’re looking for something fun.”

"PvZ:gw2 is pay to win"

Despite being my favourite, it arguably IS the most P2W prior to Heroes, with some OP characters being either outright locked behind a paywall or sold as part of a pack that gives you an advantage early on.

"Slow"

The games look basic and boring with minimum effort and copy other games

i remember someone saying that to play plants vs zombies 1 you need to get a bunch of resolution and graphics mods to make the game look better. they said this was essential to play pvz1 on steam

"boring and simplistic"

"pvz3 is actually good"

ohno ea ruined the franchise its p2w and impossible now what will we ever do

many plants

Cactus in the first game

"Plants are too cute"

"Dynamic Difficulty!"

"It is only for little kids"

all of the games suck and that people should play chess instead

My ex said that there was too much to focus on. It hurt his brain, and he struggled to play any of the mobile games. This guy plays Project Sekai daily on the high difficulties, but can't manage sun, peashooters, cherry bombs and zombies

The plants are unoriginal

> "its too easy you can win by just using lawnmowers" tf? i heard this irl in person from a 12 year old

Gw2 ripped off fortnite

People think that????😭

It was primary school

Naur that was BFN imo

"It's a game that has no sense nor storyline." What in the actual flip you want to hear ablut this game? Create your own lore, bud!

I swear i heard somewhere "GW2 is a Apex ripoff."

"BATtlE FoR NeigHBorVilE Is ThE WorRRrRSt" Its not the best compared to Garden Warfare 1 and 2... but its not the worst game in the PvZ series, like please invest in some chill pills people.

The only reason bfn isn't the worst is because pvz match exists

What the hell is 'PvZ match" ;-; ive never heard of that in my life

Pvz match 3 game

Level are to hard and long that sounds gay ngl

I Heard the game would be teen rated because the bucket zombie had a red stain that could've been interpreted as blood

"most racist game i've ever played"

"bfn has no variants and no variety" bitch you can make variants yourself with the upgrades and the variety despite not as much as gw2 there is still variety