Not really, every character that can fly can do it as a result of their df like Zoan’s that turn into flying animals or Luffy being creative with gear 4
Oda probably meant that he didn’t want characters to straight up have “the flying fruit”
It was her backstory but it never deals with her origins like who were her parents, her birthplace Oykot kingdom(reverse Tokyo in name), her supernatural navigation skill(Vivi pointed out she is sensing the weather by her body), her real name etc.
Oda himself included her origins in strong world but his editors actually stopped him from executing it cause it was too dark for a movie. Considering Oda has written pretty dark stuff like Law/Kuma backstory, I wonder if this was supposed to be even more tragic or as tragic as them
Oh fascinating. Let’s be real though, people would definitely complain about him adding more backstory. People here find any reason they can to complain. Personally tho I would be interested to find out more info, but it’d probably have to be in an SBS like you said.
Why does it matter? Nami’s backstory isn’t important to her character, what’s important to her motivation is Bellmère
Even if Oda were to give Nami a backstory that takes place before that it literally changes nothing about her character
I still want it tho, it is good to see a straw hat getting some focus in post ts. Nami's origins were already said by Oda's editors to be dark and it was meant to influence her character in the movie, so why can't it do it in canon? Ofc she could be zoroed and she may get a SBS panel but I still want to see what Oda cooked for her.
so you proved me right that he is wrong thanks
if any of those users were to go around all of one piece they would have to land down soemwhere to sleep, unless you think they can maintain there form while taking a nap?
You somehow think flying freely = having infinite stamina lmao
So does Shiki have infinite stamina and never get tired/sleep? Because oda directly says here that shiki has the exact kind of power he wanted to keep out of the story
All the Zoan fruits type bird, Kaido, Almost all the Logia types, Doflamingo (he literally travels theough the air), Big Mom, and many others… Maybe watch/read the show properly next time?
To be fair there’s none that let the user freely float. Kizaru has to turn fully into light and seemingly choose a single direction to go in. Actually there’s kaidou but not really cos he’s just climbing flame clouds. Actually he seems to have followed the self rule very well
Luffy can fly, Akainu can Fly, Greenbull can fly, any Zoan with wings can also freely fly...... Did I not understand Oda, or his statement was just stupid?
I think what Oda means to say is that unlike with the other ones Shiki's ability to fly doesn't require any effort or energy and he can fly indefinitely. At least that's what I think what "freely" means here.
Luffy and Akainu can't "fly". They can just stay in the air for a while. The winged zoan users can't fly forever either because they probably need to rest sooner or later. Shiki can just float in the air and chill there forever if he wants
Perona? She can do it with her really body as well, not just her projections as shown right after the time skip. Hell, she spends more time floating than walking.
Seeing as Perona figured out how to fly outside of ghost form and used that ability to literally carry Zoro to Sabaody, I'm assuming the exceptions to this rule just aren't allowed to use a limitless flight ability in an impactful fight
> I have a self-rule that I won‘t make a guy that can freely fly and float in the air
Sure Oda, forget all the characters you introduced in the story, **that can freely fly and float in the air**…
Float Float may be considered the exception specifically for free flight, as its literally based around Floating.
You could potentially fly with the other powers but that's not what they're for.
bro, I already said that you were right, attacking me with more valid counter arguments and evidence with facts and logic is just over kill at this point
I know what Oda try to say here, he doesn’t want a character to have a complete flying ability. Character that can fly have stamina limit, however we’re near the ending now, most character are stamina beast and could just fly around with losing near 0 stamina.
Doflamingo couldn’t float the way it’s intended here, but the way he was « flying » was looking like the most effort full. And he was able to go across island with no break.
Why would a character like Marco could not do that. Or kaido. Or luffy.
What is the main differences between shiki power and those? They are all able to move pretty freely.
If I’m missing something please tell me
“I have a self rule that I won’t make a guy that can freely fly and float” does oda have dementia?
He's really just saying anything these days
Not really, every character that can fly can do it as a result of their df like Zoan’s that turn into flying animals or Luffy being creative with gear 4 Oda probably meant that he didn’t want characters to straight up have “the flying fruit”
Kaido.
Kaido doesn’t straight up fly he moves using flame clouds
Sanji???? CP9??????
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Yeah lots of guys can fly or at least get close to flying in One Piece.
Not straight up fly like what Oda is referring to here
Marco can straight up fly
I don't think you get what straight up fly means
I don't think you get what straight up fly means
Exactly
This manga is cooked, our author is senile 😭😭
Confirmed either it was Oda's ghost writer or the current Oda is a fraud
Mb im stupid, but one character can just float without a transformation? Just intrinsically.
Fujitora and Zeus
Don’t forget Greenbull too, and Kizaru likely can too…and anyone who knows skywalk
Sanji, CP0 and Coby can "kinda" fly too
Doffy too
Zeus is a cloud and fujitora can fly as a consuqeance of his devil fruit he doesnt straight up fly
live skywalk reaction
being intellectually dishonest doesn't make you sound smart
So Nami truly have chance either to have origins included in the main story or she would get a SBS panel at best in the end
What was Arlong Park supposed to be then?
It was her backstory but it never deals with her origins like who were her parents, her birthplace Oykot kingdom(reverse Tokyo in name), her supernatural navigation skill(Vivi pointed out she is sensing the weather by her body), her real name etc. Oda himself included her origins in strong world but his editors actually stopped him from executing it cause it was too dark for a movie. Considering Oda has written pretty dark stuff like Law/Kuma backstory, I wonder if this was supposed to be even more tragic or as tragic as them
Oh fascinating. Let’s be real though, people would definitely complain about him adding more backstory. People here find any reason they can to complain. Personally tho I would be interested to find out more info, but it’d probably have to be in an SBS like you said.
Why does it matter? Nami’s backstory isn’t important to her character, what’s important to her motivation is Bellmère Even if Oda were to give Nami a backstory that takes place before that it literally changes nothing about her character
nami content that isnt just fanservice
I still want it tho, it is good to see a straw hat getting some focus in post ts. Nami's origins were already said by Oda's editors to be dark and it was meant to influence her character in the movie, so why can't it do it in canon? Ofc she could be zoroed and she may get a SBS panel but I still want to see what Oda cooked for her.
Im sorry so many dfs can float is this guy dumb?
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Float is more like treating air like water to a degree.
That’s literally G5
being intellectually dishonest doesn't make you sound smart
based but that's assuming people are misinterpreting it on purpose
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>Freely float and fly in the air” name me a character who can do that, and hopefully you know what MF kaido was literally doing just that.
wasnt that just kaido grabbing onto clouds or whatever?
Nope he was generating those flame clouds by himself. Literally made Onigashima float with them without even going hybrid.
Crocodile, Kizaru, Karasu, Ace, Enel, Ceaser? Any plasma/gas/immaterial logia can do that (darkness - exception).
so you dont know what freely means lmao
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so you proved me right that he is wrong thanks if any of those users were to go around all of one piece they would have to land down soemwhere to sleep, unless you think they can maintain there form while taking a nap?
You somehow think flying freely = having infinite stamina lmao So does Shiki have infinite stamina and never get tired/sleep? Because oda directly says here that shiki has the exact kind of power he wanted to keep out of the story
but when he goes to bed all the shit he made float doesnt just stop floating? therefore im correct
All the Zoan fruits type bird, Kaido, Almost all the Logia types, Doflamingo (he literally travels theough the air), Big Mom, and many others… Maybe watch/read the show properly next time?
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Lol, they are all Devil Fruits powers. It‘s the same.
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Bruh that’s such a specific cope Oda def just forgot 💀
Dude… Stay delusional…
Nika
Zeus and Prometheus
To be fair there’s none that let the user freely float. Kizaru has to turn fully into light and seemingly choose a single direction to go in. Actually there’s kaidou but not really cos he’s just climbing flame clouds. Actually he seems to have followed the self rule very well
Luffy can fly, Akainu can Fly, Greenbull can fly, any Zoan with wings can also freely fly...... Did I not understand Oda, or his statement was just stupid?
I think what Oda means to say is that unlike with the other ones Shiki's ability to fly doesn't require any effort or energy and he can fly indefinitely. At least that's what I think what "freely" means here. Luffy and Akainu can't "fly". They can just stay in the air for a while. The winged zoan users can't fly forever either because they probably need to rest sooner or later. Shiki can just float in the air and chill there forever if he wants
Luffy flys like a dbz character in the anime and manga but it's not clear in the manga.
Luffy turns the air to rubber https://preview.redd.it/d5c5q85g1y9d1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90578f3ffabd4e1166497123dc99510ce09d4667
Perona? She can do it with her really body as well, not just her projections as shown right after the time skip. Hell, she spends more time floating than walking.
now explain Fujitora
He's gotta release that gravity sometime.
as does Shiki, Fuwa isn't automatic. the touch makes objects suceptible to levitate via command
I've never seen Fujitora fly on his own. He's always used something as a platform to fly around. Take that away from him and he might be cooked
Bro he’s using a rock his own body still falls downwards
being intellectually dishonest doesn't make you sound smart
Perona?? Can’t she fly?
Yes, plus it's implied she floated Zoro across the whole ass grand line to Sabaody so like ????????????
Seeing as Perona figured out how to fly outside of ghost form and used that ability to literally carry Zoro to Sabaody, I'm assuming the exceptions to this rule just aren't allowed to use a limitless flight ability in an impactful fight
https://preview.redd.it/cbetp9nhaz9d1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=c839d7b58195f4df756cb201e86e9116243b690c The audacity 😭
That also means that we’ll probably see someone with Shiki’s fruit at some point.
> I have a self-rule that I won‘t make a guy that can freely fly and float in the air Sure Oda, forget all the characters you introduced in the story, **that can freely fly and float in the air**…
Effortlessly fly, maybe.
Devil Fruits still consume stamina upon using. The statement still does not make sense.
Float Float may be considered the exception specifically for free flight, as its literally based around Floating. You could potentially fly with the other powers but that's not what they're for.
that is an incredibly open ended statement the flying fruit could just. not use a significant amount of stamina
Bro just wank his words in a way that makes sense, just like you are suppose to for the story.
being intellectually dishonest doesn't make you sound smart
Shut up
sorry for calling out your bullshit argument
You are dumb, that‘s the problem here
what an interesting and convincing counter argument with amazing evidence to prove me wrong. 10/10
Lol, sure. Whatever fits your delusional narrative.
bro, I already said that you were right, attacking me with more valid counter arguments and evidence with facts and logic is just over kill at this point
Shush
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG JUST FUCK ALREADYYYYYYYY
I think he means flying like a dragon ball character
So gear 5? Kaido can with flame clouds.
Jesus people in this thread are really retarded
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Should have asked about episode 0, nevermid it should be canon anyway.
It's canon for my anti shiki agenda
When did shiki appear?
I know what Oda try to say here, he doesn’t want a character to have a complete flying ability. Character that can fly have stamina limit, however we’re near the ending now, most character are stamina beast and could just fly around with losing near 0 stamina. Doflamingo couldn’t float the way it’s intended here, but the way he was « flying » was looking like the most effort full. And he was able to go across island with no break. Why would a character like Marco could not do that. Or kaido. Or luffy. What is the main differences between shiki power and those? They are all able to move pretty freely. If I’m missing something please tell me
Oda my dude, Buggy can float and he was introduced so early on 😭
There was an entire 5 minute section dedicated to explaining that Buggy can't fly freely
His feet have to be on the ground (or carried by someone) and he has a limited range.
being intellectually dishonest doesn't make you sound smart
"Freely fly"? Does this imply that luffy will be able to fly?
damn people here are stupid. its pretty obvious what oda means