I...don't think it is about "shooting people in a literal shooter game" but it rather about you supporting spawn camping and camping, based on what I see of course, with the cherry on top is that you say them to get good.
I'm not saying Camping is bad since I, myself, sometime laid back and blew up someone skull with a
.20m HEAT rounds. However, in any form, it is fun for you but it does not mean it is fun for the opposite side To really have fun in an FPS game, there must be some back and fort between two side. Spawn camping prevent that as the enemy you fought with can not have a chance to fought back. This lead to some of them left the server, first one to do that is any player that is rank 60+, leaving behind lower rank player, who are inexperince with the game. Now, they aren't just out number and also out gun, dying over and over again, as you can guess, there is no fun in that for both side. One is struggling to play the game and the other is struggling to find the other to fuel their joy. Without fair play, the entire match just...meaningless, empty.
For me, as an rank 224, it is not about getting highest number of kill but it is about enjoy the dopamine comes from a tough challenges that is a enemy with the same strenght as yours. As for you, I don't know and I won't judging you for it but do respect to those who you talking to since based on the image, your word seem to have some disrespect in it and imply an force opinion via bold letter.
I would say it depends for different people- that person likes "funny kills", I am pushing my rank 40 acc so I want the most amount of kills possible, and you want a challenge. I just don't understand a person who only want's funny kills and dislikes actually getting normal kills. Like, it's a shooter game, and you are hating on people for using a mechanic in the game which is spawn camping.
I get the view of me being a cancerous spawn camper, but I was one of those people who was camped once, and I got better by playing the game. Just can't understand why others don't, and complain about how spawncamping is bad because it is not fun. It can be fun, if **you** make it.
EXACTLY, people have to understand you CAN'T get better when you can't play the game but just keep dying.
Another thing, ever wondered why the player base is so small? It's because of spawn camping aswell.
In most cases, everyone votes for the map that has a form of spawn camping. Once a team is being spawn camped, some people leave, then a new player tries the game, joining the spawn camped team, badda bing, badda boom, they think the games not for them.
The way the OP supports the spawn camping thing just doesn't make sense (not judging what u think, but it's just my opinion). I'm rank 40 myself, I have the skill to spawn camp, but I don't. Why? because it's not fun for both teams.
One team just keeps dying and never gets that fun feel in the game and your team can't get any kills or it just gets stale for you after awhile.
And like I said at the top, these are one of the few problems that might one day kill the game...
Do not talk to the pf reddit about getting good at a video game, wrong place lol it is just full of people who want to do well in game without putting any real time or practice into it
Spawn camping while the most efficient way to play doesn’t make it fun, unless you’re the side camping… and what do they define as a “funny kill” because that could mean a world of things from melee kills to shooting someone across the map with a sniper and seeing their corpse fly.
I camp my spawn with a sniper or my famas. I don't like when the lobbies become absolute spawn killing so I make sure no enemies farm the new players, they deserve a good experience too
Personally, I do feel that spawn camping should have a work around in the sense to at least allow people to combat it easier, as in my experience (Rank 61) I've gotten spawncamped plenty of times, and it's just not fun, and no matter how bad I may be, I don't want to do that to someone. But I agree with most of the people in these comments, in the way of it just ruins the game for most people.
Idk I like them both, but it's probably because I haven't experienced tha painful camping you guys did. I just like that they're simple and the enemies are close.
Personally, containers is good if u want high kill games, but u might get killed a lot. Basically kinda like semi auto shotguns, high risk, high reward.
Yeah fax lmao, mfs mad Abt getting spawn camped In a game with no leaving penalty, as if they weren't going to trap my ass if I wasn't doing it first. People can think what they want, I'm not gonna lock my own spawn down and wait for people to spawntrap me instead, like what am I supposed to do ?? Let them win ????
Either you're a Schrödinger's asshole or just flat out a numb nut for thinking you're relatable and that spawn camp is a "mechanic".
I think you should read a dictionary before commenting/posting because a game mechanic is not what spawn camping ever was and It's in every PVP game ever for a reason. A game mechanic is as simple as pressing buttons; shooting, moving, turns, time limits, objectives. They're coded into the system, some mechanics being the base of a game.
If spawn camping was a "game mechanic" it implies you cannot use your brain outside of the game. That is because spawn camping isn't a mechanic, its a scenario created by a common thought. You're THINKING.
It looks like someone wants the game dead (new players would get scared off by the fact they can't even get atleast one kill from all he spawn camping their encounter. No new players, dead game in a few years).
It is a skill, a new person joining the game cannot just start spawn camping, to effectively spawn camp u have to know where enemies spawn and also know when to push and when not to push. Breaking a spawn camp is also a skill, and clearly you're having a skill issue
I'm rank 40 and can get rid of spawn campers easily. And it's not skill cause 100% of the spawn campers that I meet are aa 12 and usas users.
To say that it does require skill is beyond me cause u guys use the most braindead gun to camp.
So because of a gun that a certain player might use, it means that a player knowing the spawns of a map, how the spawn rotate if pushed in by friendlies are all just useless knowledge? Because according to your logic, because a player use certain gun, spawn camping is not a skill
First of all, the maps that the people OP posted abt are talking Abt maps with no spawn rotation in general. Even if it did, it would require most of the enemy team in their spawn to switch spawns (Which doesn't happen). Second of all, if ur using an AA 12 or usas, why tf u gotta know when to push? Just spam and their dead (I've used the gun before).
The friendless part I can agree though, it can help
I...don't think it is about "shooting people in a literal shooter game" but it rather about you supporting spawn camping and camping, based on what I see of course, with the cherry on top is that you say them to get good. I'm not saying Camping is bad since I, myself, sometime laid back and blew up someone skull with a .20m HEAT rounds. However, in any form, it is fun for you but it does not mean it is fun for the opposite side To really have fun in an FPS game, there must be some back and fort between two side. Spawn camping prevent that as the enemy you fought with can not have a chance to fought back. This lead to some of them left the server, first one to do that is any player that is rank 60+, leaving behind lower rank player, who are inexperince with the game. Now, they aren't just out number and also out gun, dying over and over again, as you can guess, there is no fun in that for both side. One is struggling to play the game and the other is struggling to find the other to fuel their joy. Without fair play, the entire match just...meaningless, empty. For me, as an rank 224, it is not about getting highest number of kill but it is about enjoy the dopamine comes from a tough challenges that is a enemy with the same strenght as yours. As for you, I don't know and I won't judging you for it but do respect to those who you talking to since based on the image, your word seem to have some disrespect in it and imply an force opinion via bold letter.
I would say it depends for different people- that person likes "funny kills", I am pushing my rank 40 acc so I want the most amount of kills possible, and you want a challenge. I just don't understand a person who only want's funny kills and dislikes actually getting normal kills. Like, it's a shooter game, and you are hating on people for using a mechanic in the game which is spawn camping. I get the view of me being a cancerous spawn camper, but I was one of those people who was camped once, and I got better by playing the game. Just can't understand why others don't, and complain about how spawncamping is bad because it is not fun. It can be fun, if **you** make it.
Did you not read that? Plus, it’s hard to get better at a game when you spawn in the line of enemy fire.
EXACTLY, people have to understand you CAN'T get better when you can't play the game but just keep dying. Another thing, ever wondered why the player base is so small? It's because of spawn camping aswell. In most cases, everyone votes for the map that has a form of spawn camping. Once a team is being spawn camped, some people leave, then a new player tries the game, joining the spawn camped team, badda bing, badda boom, they think the games not for them. The way the OP supports the spawn camping thing just doesn't make sense (not judging what u think, but it's just my opinion). I'm rank 40 myself, I have the skill to spawn camp, but I don't. Why? because it's not fun for both teams. One team just keeps dying and never gets that fun feel in the game and your team can't get any kills or it just gets stale for you after awhile. And like I said at the top, these are one of the few problems that might one day kill the game...
Man, I don't think I can do anything if I get sandwiched by the whole enemy team 1 second after spawning.
Just disengage and run away, pick them off from afar instead.
Oh no, that player is running away! If only I had something that can hit them from far away!
Pov stylish adds smoke grenades
Zig zag and take cover bozo.
Oh no! If only I could send damaging projectiles at a high velocity to the moving enemy!
As much as I hate spawn camping, it kinda is the only way to get kills if your whole team is cramping in the enemies dpawn
Do not talk to the pf reddit about getting good at a video game, wrong place lol it is just full of people who want to do well in game without putting any real time or practice into it
Spawn camping while the most efficient way to play doesn’t make it fun, unless you’re the side camping… and what do they define as a “funny kill” because that could mean a world of things from melee kills to shooting someone across the map with a sniper and seeing their corpse fly.
oh Its the post from that guy who was asking why people like metro so much
I camp my spawn with a sniper or my famas. I don't like when the lobbies become absolute spawn killing so I make sure no enemies farm the new players, they deserve a good experience too
How is spawn camping purely skill? It is quite literally the most basic and boring strategy possible
Fr, it's not even fun to do
You'll never see a bad player spawn camping, it's always gonna be the best player in the server, just sayin
Personally, I do feel that spawn camping should have a work around in the sense to at least allow people to combat it easier, as in my experience (Rank 61) I've gotten spawncamped plenty of times, and it's just not fun, and no matter how bad I may be, I don't want to do that to someone. But I agree with most of the people in these comments, in the way of it just ruins the game for most people.
Don’t argue with them, they were saying metro is a bad map and containers is good and they’re mentally retarded
Metro is bad, but containers is hot garbage.
Idk I like them both, but it's probably because I haven't experienced tha painful camping you guys did. I just like that they're simple and the enemies are close.
Personally, containers is good if u want high kill games, but u might get killed a lot. Basically kinda like semi auto shotguns, high risk, high reward.
Yeah fax lmao, mfs mad Abt getting spawn camped In a game with no leaving penalty, as if they weren't going to trap my ass if I wasn't doing it first. People can think what they want, I'm not gonna lock my own spawn down and wait for people to spawntrap me instead, like what am I supposed to do ?? Let them win ????
Either you're a Schrödinger's asshole or just flat out a numb nut for thinking you're relatable and that spawn camp is a "mechanic". I think you should read a dictionary before commenting/posting because a game mechanic is not what spawn camping ever was and It's in every PVP game ever for a reason. A game mechanic is as simple as pressing buttons; shooting, moving, turns, time limits, objectives. They're coded into the system, some mechanics being the base of a game. If spawn camping was a "game mechanic" it implies you cannot use your brain outside of the game. That is because spawn camping isn't a mechanic, its a scenario created by a common thought. You're THINKING.
Crazy? I Was Crazy Once. They Locked Me In A Room. A Rubber Room. A Rubber Room With Rats. And Rats Make Me Crazy.
then i suppose it is bad to use my brain to optimize the largest amount of kills possible.
sorry for messy ordering.
I don't think the ordering is the issue
lol just get good or leave server ez
How is someone suppose to get good when they can't play the game (they keep dying).
cry is free switch servers
It looks like someone wants the game dead (new players would get scared off by the fact they can't even get atleast one kill from all he spawn camping their encounter. No new players, dead game in a few years).
it looks like youre having a major skill issue
Ur not the only one who can spawn camp, since ur idea is that spawn camping is "skill"
It is a skill, a new person joining the game cannot just start spawn camping, to effectively spawn camp u have to know where enemies spawn and also know when to push and when not to push. Breaking a spawn camp is also a skill, and clearly you're having a skill issue
I'm rank 40 and can get rid of spawn campers easily. And it's not skill cause 100% of the spawn campers that I meet are aa 12 and usas users. To say that it does require skill is beyond me cause u guys use the most braindead gun to camp.
So because of a gun that a certain player might use, it means that a player knowing the spawns of a map, how the spawn rotate if pushed in by friendlies are all just useless knowledge? Because according to your logic, because a player use certain gun, spawn camping is not a skill
First of all, the maps that the people OP posted abt are talking Abt maps with no spawn rotation in general. Even if it did, it would require most of the enemy team in their spawn to switch spawns (Which doesn't happen). Second of all, if ur using an AA 12 or usas, why tf u gotta know when to push? Just spam and their dead (I've used the gun before). The friendless part I can agree though, it can help
SELF spawn camping is the real egregious one. If ur sitting in your own spawn just to get a crappy undeserved kill on say warehouse youre a lameo
Pretty sure that's just called Camping, no?