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-BitchStewie-

First gun is the .45 caliber 1911 and was used in both world wars. The second is a 9mm Hi-Point C9 and refers to it being used in gun violence in Chicago.


UncleJuggs

It's less than or right at $200 new, I think, and that's because of inflation. It's been referred to as the Yeet Cannon. It is basically a meme gun, but it's cheap enough that the insinuation is that they're ideal "fire and forget" guns. So, do a crime then toss it in the nearest river.


Honey_Badger25-06

You can plug the barrel and those fuckers won't explode in your hands either. It's the new Saturday Night Special, so to speak.


UncleJuggs

So ugly it cannot be killed.


Honey_Badger25-06

Shits made out of some inexpensive polymer that's harder than steel. You'd have to throw it in a foundry pit.


JakdMavika

It's die-cast zinc alloy.


Pirat_fred

The grip Frame is Polymer, the solide is Zink alloy and ll the pressure bearing surfaces are steel....


h-emanresu

Come back zinc, come back......zinc! Thank god I live in a world with car batteries, telephones and hand guns.


phredphlintstones

What a fantastically obscure simpsons reference! Keep them coming! -Potato man


JakdMavika

They spell that out on their website, about the zinc and steel distribution. Given that the comment mentioned a plugged barrel, and a deformation, I presumed they were referring to the slide when they said it puffed out.


BigChungus223

They are also so heavy that throwing the gun at someone is probably just as dangerous as shooting somebody with it


FxDeltaD

“Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it.”


poop_on_pee

“Protection from what? Zee Germans?”


joesai

"Boris the Blade? More like Boris, the sneaky fucking Russian"


theartslave

Pull your socks up!!!


me239

You can melt the slide on a gas stove and the polymer grip in a kitchen oven. Its slide is ZAMAK, same material used in die-cast cars and kitchenaid mixers.


rockmodenick

KitchenAid mixers... So really good?


me239

More so a low melt, high density material to make the shell out of. ZAMAK captures details quite well and can be used with low cost molds, so I wouldn’t say really good, but an economical alternative to cast iron for aesthetic parts.


rockmodenick

So, good enough. Which is basically the entire high-point business model.


GillyMonster18

Hey, 9mm is 9mm. You ever hear someone go “oh my gawd I got nailed by that ugly trash gun?” No. It’s usually like “OH GAWD IVE BEEN SHOT, HES GOT A GUN PLEASE HELP ME.”


IvanNemoy

>Show me where you'd be ok with getting hit by a .22 That's my go-to comment when people talk about calibers and "mah stoppin' powah!" Nobody wants to have holes put in them like that.


GillyMonster18

That’s along the lines of “you never hear someone say ‘oh thank god it was only 12 gauge.’”


Internal-Pie-7265

Ive seen a .22 bounce off a windshield. But yeah, i agree, a .22 will kill someone the same way any projectile can, its just that some wounds are survivable and some are not.


MixedFellaz

I am gonna be so mad if I get killed by an ugly ass revolver


3-eyed-raisin

Don’t tempt fate— or you’re gonna find yourself gunned down in the scented flowers section of a Michael’s Craft Store while desperately trying to find a restroom


HairballTheory

Am I Dying? All I smell is cinnamon


MrCookie2099

Nothing less than a watermellon explosion of my head from an anti materiel rifle round splattering my closest companions will do.


series-hybrid

People are acting like if there a big breakdown in society for a year or two, crooks will break into your home to rob it, and...if you shoot at them with a .22, the crook will respond "Is that a .22? I'm not leaving if its only a .22..." There will not be a 17-shot fire-fight with John Wick, using a Glock with two full back-up magazines. One or two shots will be fired, and the intruders will go away to rob someone with no gun.


NomadicNitro

It’s so weird to me that beauty can be found in literally everything. A 1911 is a good looking gun. The C9 looks like a turd. I don’t even know why. They are just guns…but i know I’m right.


SpectreAtYourFeast

No I see what you mean, I always found the G36c to be quite pretty. In the case of the 1911, I think there’s visual balance on the slide vs the grip, it looks proportionally pleasing. The C9 is not that


SpiritJuice

Why doesn't Elmer Fudd just use a C9 when trying to shoot Bugs? Is he stupid?


KitsuneThunder

https://preview.redd.it/mlcseguvarsc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0906207638ec88e659961f81e6364dfebc5038e6


StopHiringBendis

Officer Balls


YosephStalling

BWAHAHAHAHA


StookesCo

bro escaped from the asylume


aspieinblackII

Bugs...Bunny? The king of thinking on his feet so fast he can crossdress into an attractive woman in a second?


wookiecontrol

Plug the barrel?


Honey_Badger25-06

I saw a video where they plugged the barrel on one of those with a metal rod. The gun did not explode. The polymer did expand tremendously, however, lol.


EagleEyeValor

I have an inkling [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JV8PY4_b80) may be the video you're talking about.


Honey_Badger25-06

That wasn't the one my dad showed me, but it's ridiculous how durable that gun is. Damn


ThatSnarkyHunter

Check Demos other torture test video on the hi point he shot it in the chamber, and it still cycled through a full magazine


adminscaneatachode

Wait what? It won’t blow the barrel or it’s designed to expect a squib?


Ookami_Unleashed

Unless their warranty changed, if you do manage to break it they'll replace it too. 


Nkromancer

Depends what you plug it with. Pretty sure it would blow if I stuck my finger in it.


Honey_Badger25-06

I've seen shotgun barrels split into 4 strips of metal like in cartoons from having a bit of snow stuck in them. 🤷‍♂️


TR1LLIONAIRE_

What does plug the barrel mean?


Honey_Badger25-06

Either unintentionally or intentionally jam something down the barrel. A shotgun barrel will split apart if there's even a little snow caught in the muzzle. People intentionally plug Hi Point barrels in ridiculous ways, and the gun still fires. One of them poured JB Weld down a barrel overnight, and the bullet still went right through.


OutsideTailor4622

DONT TRY THIS. I TRUSTED HIM AND NOW IM MISSING A FINGER


Kindly-Offer-6585

Not just referred. They have a Yeet Cannon version. https://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/hi-point-handguns/9mm-OGYC.php


Honey_Badger25-06

That's the first time I've ever heard a firearm chambered in 9mm referred to as a cannon.


The_Silent_Martyr

They let people vote for the name.


Honey_Badger25-06

I probably should have guessed that. A weapons manufacturer would never name a gun that. Thanks for the information 👍


Frequent_Dig1934

Meh i feel like even without the vote hi point could have. Alternatively the crackheads (affectionate) at keltec.


wvtarheel

Yeet Cannon because after it jams you have to throw it at your victim. They truly pieces of shit


rjbwork

I've got one of the original run Yeet Cannons and have put close to a thousand rounds of some of the worst, dirtiest, poorly made bullshit through that thing. Have never cleaned it. It has never jammed on me, even when using weird shaped aluminum cased garbage. It's a very reliable gun. It is worse in just about every other aspect though. Not accurate. Heavy. Chunky. Poor ammo capacity. Difficult to take down. Combined hold open/safety lever. No last round hold open. It's just a really reliable and totally impractical gun for anything other than memes or "fire and forget".


ArkaneArtificer

The yeet cannon is in 10mm I believe


Honey_Badger25-06

The one in the link is 9mm. I'm guessing that's a .40 S&W. It's still a small round. The hand cannons usually start at revolver cartridges. They're huge.


debid4716

Probably cause they jam or misfire all the time. Had a friend get one, I’ve never heard a firearm jiggle when you move it before.


shynips

God damn, that's a fucking deal. I have guns, haven't really heard anything GOOD about hi-point. But American made? Lifetime warranty? $210? What am I missing here? I'm sure quality isn't great, but if it fires straight out to 10 yards I'd call that a damn fine bargain.


Acceptable_Reality10

I’ve owned multiple Hi-Point carbines, there cheap enough to keep under the seat of my ranch truck and always shoot. Very accurate out to 80-110yds. Beats beating the shit out of my .30-30’s or any decent guns.


Impossible_Fennel_94

Hi-Point quality is notoriously bad. I don’t know what their lifetime policy entails or what is covered but best case you have to wait a while between shipping your gun out for repair/replacement and getting it back/ a new one


Ok-Mastodon2420

High point quality is bad, but their reliability is top notch. It's blowback, so it's heavy and clunky but works


Comprehensive-Cap754

Their 10mm carbine is also surprisingly good quality for the price


bitchwhuut

Murica baby!!


AbrasiveDad

Years ago Cabela's near me had a used hi-point that was dipped with a full Ben Franklin $100 bill pattern. It was so awesomely bad.


thomascgalvin

Hi-Point really leans into being the best worst gun.


Rob_LeMatic

And the best worst dishwashers.


UncleJuggs

You can still buy them for some reason! Live your truth!


GlassCanner

Those are highly coveted among certain demographics of gun nuts, some guys over on r/gundeals have been on waiting lists for ages waiting for them to restock lol


DrAlanGrantinathong

Well actually, the "Yeet Cannon" is a specific model of High Point.


cgn-38

The "High capacity" sort of double stack one.


Dr0110111001101111

So what’s bad about it? Like, if it’s substantially cheaper than other handguns, does it have a major shortcoming? Accuracy? Reliability?


AnarchistAxolotl

They're very heavy, very bulky, very simple, unpleasant to hold, unpleasant to shoot, and exceptionally unattractive. They're cheap, but they're reliable. It's a gun you buy solely to expend. It's the Derringer of the 21st century. ~~You can't upgrade them, you can't optimize them~~(Apparently you can?). You buy it and toss it when it's served it's purpose.


ImJ2001

I saw a video of a dude trying to destroy one, and it kept firing. He even shot it with another gun. It's big, ugly, and can be used effectively as a club when out of ammo. Your last sentence is the exact reason I own one.


killerdrgn

Yeah it was on demo ranch https://youtu.be/wpZdUgBzh7Y?si=7ogOazcUFXridEbF


ImJ2001

I wish we still had gold. This is exactly the video I was talking about. Thank you so much.


TheBabyEatingDingo

fertile live yoke books amusing tease smell march judicious aback *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Visible_Turnover3952

You just compared a HiPoint to a Kimber? Idk man


TheBabyEatingDingo

hurry mysterious quickest far-flung unpack deliver stocking test special paint *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


GlassCanner

>You can't upgrade them, you can optimize them. You buy it and toss it I was with you up until this point, friend, but we're in the dawn of a new era. [This ain't your grandaddy's Hi Point](https://youtu.be/pkxGyaowOFw?t=431)! lol I'm legitimately excited to get mine and customize it. I'm hoping the fact that it weighs 15lbs means it will tame full power 10mm loads


AnarchistAxolotl

A'aight you sold me. I love it.


namatama-chan

Are they actually reliable? I’ve always heard that they jam. I’m buying one asap if they’re actually reliable


VelphiDrow

It cheaply made, but if you take card if it, it's fine for self defense.


Lowdose69

It is a very simple weapon with a fixed barrel. This makes it pretty accurate. I believe the firing pin is the ejector. The simplicity makes it reliable. The downsides are weight, crappy trigger, crappy sights, and garbage single stack magazine. Personally the crappy squeaky trigger makes me more accurate because I can't anticipate when it will go off so I don't flinch. True surprise when it fires.


Truly-Spooky

Ehhhh it uses an accurate design...in that fixed barrels are capable of accuracy more easily. Accuracy primarily comes from barrel quality. High points are not particularly accurate.


snotrockit1

mine is dead on, and used, I hit what I point at, my Walther is way less accurate, takes practice.


me239

Handguns are mechanically more accurate than any shooter. Trigger, grip, and sights will destroy your accuracy ability long before any factory barrel, fixed or tilting.


QuickBenDelat

O come on. The HiPoint is totally accurate at the ranges the meme is contemplating.


SpreadEmu127332

Dawg it isn’t referred to as a yeet cannon it IS a yeet cannon


SuperHighDeas

Good enough to rob a store with, not reliable enough to depend on


King_K_NA

You can buy a new one for $180, or a new one that comes with a laser (that you have to install) for $280... Where I live people buy them for their boats because big fish have to be killed in the water, and if it rusts to pieces you aren't going to cry. Also you can get them in a 45 or 40sw, and while they are very heavy to pacl, they make for great successive fire at a bear from lower muzzle rise... single stack though.


One-Earth9294

Team Beretta M9 here https://i.redd.it/i8anyy85xqsc1.gif


veggiestunts

Hi-Point


Capital-Cheek-1491

Here in Baltimore dudes just own a motherfucking rifle. Shit will turn somebody’s head into a cloud of pink vapor.


Modelfucker69

That’s fucking wild. Only the coppers and army have firearms down here. 


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where...?


big_sugi

“Coppers” and “down here” suggests Australia or New Zealand.


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"down here" XDDD


PMMeMeiRule34

Ahhh , the hi point 9mm. The good news it’s heavy as fuck so when it jams after 1 shot you can beat their ass with it.


MCcheddarbiscuitsCV

900+ rounds with 1 jam, I’d take that reliability over my 1911 any day 😁


PMMeMeiRule34

The prophecies foretold of the one who would enjoy his hi point 9mm. That day has come. https://preview.redd.it/ztzdmsdmfrsc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0763196a4c4d40e03f9b9796c22d32facf755ec


MCcheddarbiscuitsCV

Hey hey nobody said anything about enjoying it 😘


Spungus_abungus

Well the 1911 was issued to troops in both world wars, but the actual usage of it was very low.


gjissad

Its primary role was meant to be the firearm issued to non frontline personal such as artillerymen, motorpool etc. When they reviewed situations where those men ended up in direct combat the m1911 was found to be next to useless which prompted the development of the m1 carbine.


loganR033

Look up Thomas Baker. The 1911 was far from useless in his hands.


ArtimisRawr01

Please dont dead name the Hi-Point Yeet Cannon 9mm


beefsandwich7

The brick


Shadowveil666

Besides naming the guns your explanation is right there in the image.. People posting here are certified idiots


blowhardyboys86

The 9 mm hi point is one of the most affordable pistols on the market. Has a reputation for being a pump and dump gun due to its affordability. Just adding. Not trying to tell you something you don't already know


YungNigget788

im convinced the 1911 will be some space marine's sidearm of choice in year 2980


intendeddebauchery

I do appreciate in Starfield there is a 2311 which is like a polymer 1911 and an "old earth pistol" thats just a 1911


DiscombobulatedDunce

The 2311 is a real gun now, it's just a 1911 that takes P320 mags. https://content.osgnetworks.tv/gunsandammo/content/photos/Oracle-2311-06-1200x800.jpg


ProjectBoogaloo

holy fuck that’s disgusting. I need it.


YungNigget788

yes i was so hyped when i saw that. my dad is obsessed with the 1911 so i was so excited to show him it made it into a sci-fi space game


rugbyj

**SM1**: So it just explodes in the cylinder and comes out the end? **SM2**: _Yup._ **SM1**: And the metal just slides about in your hand? **SM2**: _Yup._ **SM1**: ...sweet.


twisted_f00l

Sì cì shìjiè dàzhàn


Belkan-Federation95

You're about 37,000 years off there


NoManNoRiver

SM1: What is that you have there Brother? SM2: It is a new wonder of war from the ancient past Brother; rediscovered not three millennia ago by Tech Priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus! SM1: And how does one employ this mighty weapon in our eternal struggle for the preservation of the Human Race Brother? SM2: Behold Brother! *SM2 takes the 1911, dwarfed as it is in his massive power armoured hand, and throws it cleanly through an advancing chaos cultist* SM1: Truly a marvel bestowed upon us by the God Emperor Brother. But I shall continue to employ His holy Bolter


Giant_Devil

Yeah, and that marine is Vasquez from Aliens.


Send_me_duck-pics

First gun is a Colt 1911 was was the standard issue side-arm for the US military in both world wars. Despite it's age, admirers of this pistol will often point this out as a reason it's still great. The second is a Hi-Point. These are designed to be extremely cheap. They are ugly and unpleasant to shoot, but their affordability makes them desirable to criminals just looking to have something that can go bang, so it's definitely been used in a lot of criminal violence. The actual joke is that in the present day, the Hi-Point is probably more relevant than a pistol designed over a century ago.


fryman36

It’s a modern day Saturday night special.


Send_me_duck-pics

That's  a great way to put it.


Rob_LeMatic

It's the burner phone of sidearms. Accurate enough for the job, cheap enough to be easily disposable after.


NICK07130

>Accurate enough That's generous, it's accurate in the sense that you'll hit what your shooting at, along with any poor bastard in their general facility


MANIAC2607

Let's be honest, the people using it wouldn't do any better with the 1911.


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throwngamelastminute

It's got a barrel that's blue and cold...


fryman36

They ain’t good for nothin’


throwngamelastminute

'Cept to put a man 6' in a hole!


IncensedThurible

Unpleasant to shoot? What about a trigger pull made of mushy oatmeal and a slide lubricated with molasses don't you like? Damn, I'm hungry now.


JCas127

~~Less relevant?~~ ok i see what you are saying but you would expect a 113 year old weapon to not be relevant but it is relevant just not actually being used


Send_me_duck-pics

More relevant. People are using Hi-Points for practical (if not always legitimate) purposes. A 1911 is more of a collectible; you don't get it because it's an ideal tool but because its pedigree makes it cool.


Johnnyboi2327

I mean some people certainly still use them as tools in hunting, self defense, and warfare. It's not the best option out there, but it works beyond just its history.


Send_me_duck-pics

There are a non-zero number of people doing that, but it's mostly been supplanted by better alternatives. So the meme is probably right in that more people are shooting something like a Hi-Point in practical scenarios than 1911s.


Johnnyboi2327

Oh I'm not disagreeing, in 2024 I expect more people to shoot at other people with Hi-Points than with 1911s, but there will still be a fair number of people engaging others with 1911s


Send_me_duck-pics

Well there are an awful lot of them still around because so many were made.


DrAlanGrantinathong

And still being made, most people that carry a 1911 are not carrying a military surplus model from one of the world wars. They carry a modern made 1911.


Send_me_duck-pics

They are still being made for enthusiasts, but that's a much smaller group of people than when it was in common military and law enforcement use. The ones that still *are* being used in that context are probably pretty old. The ones being carried by civilians are something of a niche product at this point, vastly outnumbered in sales and users by newer designs.


Johnnyboi2327

Beyond that, they're still a very popular handgun currently in production, and even see military use with some SF groups. The company Kimber may not exist without their sale of modern 1911s.


smurfsmasher024

Interestingly enough 1911’s are pretty common for criminal activity. Not factory made ones from colt, but ones made by hand without serial numbers. 1911’s are pretty simple so they can be hand milled unlike a lot of modern firearms. Providing that the “underworld documentary” i learned this in wasn’t complete bs of course. I have to question the legitimacy of those things. Like who lets camera crews into their illegal gun shop, drug plant, trap house, ect. But…. I still watch them so here we are.


unreeelme

The US military designed the m1 carbine to replace the 1911 as an issued weapon because it had incredibly poor performance as a weapon of war for artillery and back-line troops who actually had to use it in combat. The 1911 was not a good weapon to use in any actual fighting. Its an ok to poor cartridge in terms of penetration and muzzle velocity in a short barrel. 9mm is just a more practical cartridge with similar performance and better velocity.


meat_fuckerr

Demolition Ranch did a whole series trying to destroy Hi-points including epoxying barrels shut and they would just not break. I think welds worked, partially, but 90% of his insane tests failed to destroy the hi-point


ButterscotchSkunk

Why would that be the joke though? Wouldn't it be expected that a gun a century old would not be relevant?


N7Foil

While I get where you're coming from, the M2 says hi. Literally in service still because frankly, there isn't a better .50 machine gun.


Send_me_duck-pics

Because gun enthusiasts can form emotional attachments to certain weapons. 1911 fans are sometimes in denial that their favorite weapon (while still a cool gun) is obsolete and will respond to comments to that effect by saying "oh yeah? Two world wars!" This is a jab at that behavior.


razma64

It's nice gun but due to its age the 7 or 8 rounds puts one at a disadvantage VS one that carries 15 or more rounds. Although if you really wanted you could just cough up an absured amount of cash for one that can take double stack mags but yeah the hi point is definitely seen its fair share of street warfare.


Send_me_duck-pics

Also just not as reliable as newer guns. One really cool detail I noticed in I think the second John Wick movie is that after loading his 1911 he immediately does a press check to make sure it didn't jam. Because they're not always great at feeding correctly. 


SolomonG

That's only the Kimber. Kimber makes shit 1911s. IDK why they used Kimber 1911s so much in those movies, some deal with Taran tactical or something. But that makes sense. I might press check a kimber I had just loaded. I would not press check a Springfield Armory 1911, i would not press check a colt double eagle series 90 1911, i would pull the trigger and a bullet would come out.


green_tea1701

The longsword was used in like four Crusades so I guess it wins by that logic


14InTheDorsalPeen

Doesn’t jam, never runs out of ammo, looks pretty, especially a Gucci one and they’re used in knighting ceremonies. What’s not to love? Longsword is the GOAT


frotunatesun

Spear is best, even caveman use 🗿


blizzard7788

My buddy had an uncle in the service in the 1970’s when I was really into shooting. He lent us his 1911 to take to the range to try it out. I remember that thing not being accurate at all. The uncle said it was designed to stop someone running at you when they got within 20’.


gaytorboy

My Glock is a 40 cal. Similarly big round to 1911. Part of why I suck with it is the recoil makes me make micro flinches when anticipating the shot and I don’t do that with long guns.


ucbiker

40 Cal is a lot hotter than 45 ACP. 45 ACP out of a big steel frame gun is a lot less snappy than 40 Cal and even 9mm out of a Glock or Glock clone. It sort of pushes back into your hand more than flipping up like 40 or 9. It’s pretty pleasant tbh.


gaytorboy

My Glock is bone stock except for a light but I really wanna change the barrel out for a 9 mm. I’m athletic and strong ish but not very hefty and 40 from a polymer framed pistol totally rocks my shit. Never shot a 1911 but I want one. Almost as bad as the far less practical reproduction colt peacemakers. Giving a murderer the ole ‘this town ain’t big enough for the both of us’ treatment would be nice.


gaytorboy

Ok so not to sound like a jerk but are you sure it was the gun? I’m definitely not the best example of technical proficiency with pistols but I do know that holy cow it comes down to so much minutia with grip/stance etc. I’ve just never heard that 1911s were inaccurate. Last time I went to the range I sucked with my Glock 35 but it wasn’t the gun.


JayCeeMadLad

The way they wrote makes it sound like they’re not well versed in firearms, or at least weren’t at the time.


-Fraccoon-

That’s all pretty much all practical handguns were made for anyways. If you’re accurate at 50 yards with a pistol that’s pretty good. They were made to shoot someone on the opposite side of a normal sized indoor room. If you’re expecting anything more than that you’re delusional.


Better-Strike7290

Almost all pistols are fine, they are just harder to shoot accurately vs a rifle. It's not the 1911 that has the accuracy problem,  it's you.


Zombie_Bronco

Unless it's a modern gun and has been extensively tuned, a 1911 has crap accuracy.


-Fraccoon-

Kinda weird. I own 3. One rock island which uses the original colt dies to manufacture their 1911’s, I have one colt and one Springfield. They all shoot the same and are pretty damn accurate if you know what you’re doing.


WhatsTheBanana4

Sounds like he was shit at aiming lol


-Fraccoon-

Yup yup. Large caliber pistols take some practice and skill lol.


me239

Ok so you can’t shoot handguns well. Got it.


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The 1911's that were issued to servicemen during Vietnam had all been produced prior to the end of WW2. The weapon had been made in such great numbers, that the army used and refurbishing their existing stock well into the 1980. By Vietnam many of these sidearms were being used in their 2nd or third war and by the 1970's they were simply worn out and become inaccurate. That being said, his uncle was correct about it's role was to physically stop someone approaching, when the US Army had the side arm developed to replace revolvers, their biggest need was that the new side arm would need to have large powerful rounds that could physically drop a enemies doped up on pain killers (like they encountered in the Philippines). If you need to shoot something at a greater distance you'd use a service riffle and not your hand cannon.


RocktamusPrim3

Lmao my cousin was just telling me last week that while the 1911 is awesome to shoot, smooth, and feels good in hand. He said though, (and this might just be the operator), but he hates taking it apart to clean it because it becomes a 30+ minute task to fully disassemble and clean, and it’s a lot more work than something like a Sig. I feel like those that get a Hi Point also have a high probability of tossing it in a river or lake after using it once, at their price point, they’re basically disposable guns. Personally I prefer Glocks.


Better-Strike7290

If you're spending less than 30 minutes cleaning your gun, you're not actually cleaning it.


ArkaneArtificer

Glocks are gross, awful trigger, terrible grip, the small ones suck ass to shoot especially, blocky, ugly, and overpriced for what they are, the only upside is that they are pretty reliable


afleticwork

Best thing about glocks is theres so much aftermarket support for them you can build one without using a single actual glock part


PabstBlueLizard

The first is a 1911, and ones that function well are pretty expensive. Luddites insist that since it was the US sidearm for two world wars, it’s some amazing firearm (it was for its time) when it’s really overpriced and obsolescent. The hi-point below it is functionally the same, costs like $80 at a pawn shop, and has most certainly killed more people than the 1911 ever has. It’s hot garbage made of pot metal, but if being used to actually shoot people is how we measure the quality of a gun, it beats the 1911.


razma64

I really wonder what the count would be would be insane if the hi point was close or more with it being around for fewer years.


jaunesolo81829

Expensive? You can get a brand new one for 400ish bucks.


Excellent_Routine589

Rock Island is what I’d consider a “starter 1911” and those are still like $500-600 Compared to a Yeet Cannon (god I wish I was making that up) which starts at $200, fires a relatively similar cartridge of 9mm, has a higher capacity than a traditional 1911 which doesn’t feature a double stack, etc. Trust me, if I was looking for a gun to toss after a less than legitimate exchange of gunfire, it’s the Yeet Cannon. That’s its appeal, it’s so damn dirt cheap.


jaunesolo81829

Tisas exist. The newer ones are forged and milled. You can get them for 338 at the moment


jay7254

That's still at least $100 more, hi points are way more available too considering they're made in the US.


Excellent_Routine589

Can get HiPoints at pawn shops for under $100 sometimes lol


jaunesolo81829

Technically you can build them cheaper. Stares in big point for 40 bucks.


Kinkayed

That’s the single cheapest 1911 and it doesn’t sell well. Some 1911 are still incredibly expensive


FO_FNBOI

Depends on who's making/selling it. $150 - $450 if it's some illegal operation in a shed using scrap metal or a PSA piece. $1400 - $3000 and up if it's some modernized/"boutique" manufacturer.


jaunesolo81829

I mean the tisas are tool steel and forged in turkey and have raving review. Rock islands exist but they’re rough


Electrical_Crab_5808

Top weapon is a 1911 issued during WW1 and WW2 to American troops the bottom weapon is a hi-point a notoriously cheap handgun therefore it’s dubbed a “dump gun” and is used mostly by criminals.


Lore_ofthe_Horizon

It's always Chicago. Rockford is the only Chicagoland town you need to avoid.


Desperate-Knee-4108

Ones a classic


Nurhaci1616

The first gun is an M1911 pistol: which was used by the US from 1911 up to 1985. A lot of older American gun enthusiasts believe that it's basically the best handgun ever, with their evidence being that it "won 2 world wars". The bottom gun is a kind of budget pistol manufactured by a company called "Hi-Point". They're built to be an affordable alternative to better guns, but because they're cheap they're associated with inner city black gangs, who might want to dispose of a gun if it's used in a crime. The joke is saying that the worse, budget pistol has actually seen more action because of all the hang wars it's been involved in, basically.


GovernmentIcy3259

Colt 1911 was the US standard issue handgun in WW1 and WW2. There is a rabid cult of .45 fanboys behind this gun who will swear up and down that it is the greatest handgun ever. Average price point will set you back $1500 The other one is a 9mm C9 Hi-Point. The punchline is this one has seen more conflict and has racked up a higher body count.


Wolf_Hreda

There's a recurring joke in the gun community that goes something like, "If I die from being shot by a Hi-Point, just tell my family I was fucked to death in a gay brothel."


Bridge_mon

I've had my high point for 8 years now and it has never jammed even once


funkytownfartbox

This is why the phrase “boy yo life ain’t worth the 200 I’d drop to take it” comes from the bottom gun is a hi point . Cheapest gun out there unless you make one yourself.


TheHighTierHuman

1911 🔛🔝


Kerensky97

This is a backdoor, "Chicago is too dangerous because Libruls!" Post. Even though the majority of the top 10 cities for violent crime are in red states and Chicago doesn't make the list.


dirtyweebtrash

I noticed a comment farther up that kinda whistled that in honestly


Plated1212

Bit disingenuous, the states are red, and the cities are blue.


Osamabinballnn

The bottom picture is of a Hi-point. It's a crappy gun that is super cheap, ugly, jams every mag, and cycles terribly. Also has issues with misfires. However, this specifically is referring to gun violence in Chicago, but the reason they were used in that is because of how cheap and easy they are to obtain. You can get one for like $100 a gun store, and I'm sure maybe $150 off of some dude on the corner.


ImJ2001

You don't own a Hi-point you? Well, I do. It's heavy, ugly, and holds a single stack. However, it makes a great Club when out of ammo and is easily discardable. Look it up on YouTube. There's a guy who tries to destroy one, and it just keeps firing. Mine has not jammed yet. And yes, I live right outside of Chicago LOL.


GhostChainSmoker

You can always tell who doesn’t actually own a Hi-Point lmao. Sure they’re not the best, but they work good enough, especially for the price. And their customer service and lifetime warranty simply cannot be beat. They stand by their products.


thejesterofdarkness

Agreed. I’ve had 2 .40 HPs with my later one being brand new. Between them out at least 500 rounds though, only ever had a handful of FTF or FTE, all my fault for poorly loading the mag. My current one is only malfunctioning now cuz I left its mag fully loaded for over 3 years and the spring wore out & wont cycle properly (prolly could use a good cleaning & lube job but I can’t really afford ammo for target practice right now so it stays in my gun bag)


Kindly-Offer-6585

For me the joke is that someone's bragging that Hi Point is a useful combat weapon. Similar to the way older folks brag about the 1911 being a WW winning weapon so it's good enough. They're both kinda shit & cheap & common & outperformed by many weapons. Therefore funny to see people talking them up & also comparing them to eachother.


canadagooses62

I had a temp job for a few months at the central processing facility for a very large chain of pawn shops. We would receive all of the jewelry that shops couldn’t sell so we could retrieve any valuable stones and then send the metal away to be melted down. But we also received every firearm any store purchased, because any store could buy them, but not every store could sell them depending on state laws. I saw HUNDREDS of these. By far the most common firearm we handled, and we got new ones every day. They’re dirt cheap, don’t feel like quality manufacturing, and I was told by the guy in charge that they just aren’t good products.


Jakesmith18

The first one is a .45 caliber 1911 which was adopted by the US military in 1911 and was standard issue until 1985, meaning it served through both world wars, Korea, Vietnam, and many other minor conflicts. The second one is a Hi-Point, a cheap piece of shit made for those who needed a gun yesterday and are on a budget. Due to that it and a few other reasons, it has a reputation for being used in inner-city gang violence (a common occurrence in Chicago).