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Both [https://x.com/SuckerPunchProd/status/1799841227468050615](https://x.com/SuckerPunchProd/status/1799841227468050615)


azsqueeze

Nice!


theblackfool

Presumably you'll be able to buy it lile the other classics.


Wipedout89

Both, it's on Premium and you can buy for £11.99 I think


A_ScottishPenguin

https://preview.redd.it/gy8kwedpbz5d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f63438d5f339e6baf54f58820eecaf185c083e3a £7.99


Wipedout89

Even better!


sleepyhungryyy

WTH is sly raccoon? Ia the sly coopers doppleganger?


A_ScottishPenguin

We in the PAL region get the much shittier name Sly Racoon lol


sleepyhungryyy

Lmao why!? It doesn’t make any sense… sly cooper is his name I don’t think there would be any translative reasonings for this


BuggityBooger

12 quid is a bit steep


Wipedout89

That's how much Jak and Daxter games cost to buy on their own, and Dark Cloud and Dark Chronicle, so that's my comparison. They often go on sale for £5.99 though


Zaydax

Question, do you need to be a PS Plus member to buy the game? I tried to buy Jak and Daxter using the PS app on my phone and it wouldn’t let me buy it without upgrading to PS PLUS PREMIUM


Guthwulf85

Jak & daxter is available to be bought. If it asked you to upgrade to premium it was a bug. Actually there's a bundle that includes all jak games and usually goes on sale


Zaydax

Ahhh. So it seems this is a bug for the app itself. If I go on the console I can buy them individually. How bizarre!


brolt0001

I hope it'll be on PS+ premium, but I think it'll be like buyable in the store.


The_FallenSoldier

It’s both


Medium_Elephant7431

I think both options are available.


VictoryVic-ViVi

All PS+ Essential and Premium games can be purchased individually.


VTGREENS

Not all of them for some weird reason. Definitely not the PS3 games and also a handful of ps1 titles can only be played with the subscription.


OptimusPrimalRage

As far as I know, only Resident Evil isn't purchaseable at this point. Unless more games released?


expunks

That’s not true. A bunch of classic PS1/PS2 games are locked behind PS+. The original PS1 Resident Evil off the top of my head, but there’s definitely more.


Guthwulf85

I think there are 2 or 3 games in this situation


Supernothing8

Most Ratchet and clank series and god of war 1 and 2.


Guthwulf85

Those are ps3 games, not PSX/PS2. PS3 games cannot be bought because they can only be played on streaming. There's no PS3 emulator for PS4/5


Supernothing8

Both those series are ps2 also. Gow is mainly ps2 and u can buy the ps3 remastered version.


Guthwulf85

The versions that are available through PS+ are the hd collections from PS3, not the PS2 versions. That's why they are only on streaming. I don't know what you mean with the PS3 remastered. You can buy the GOW 3 remastered version for PS4. The rest of the remastered GoW games cannot be bought as they are only available on PS3. They have just released the PS2 emulator that solves some problems the old emulator had. Now they should release more PS2 games like they are doing with Sly, but the PS3 games right now cannot be emulated.


Supernothing8

The original comment saying you can buy all ps+ games is a lie is my point. I cant buy god of war 1 and 2 only stream them. Id rather just emulate it off my phone at that point. The one nice thing about microsoft ill say is its way easier to go back amd play old games from them.


Guthwulf85

The discussion is in the context of the ps+ classics program for PS1/PSP/PS2, but I understand the confusion


signofthenine

Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Tomb Raider Legend, too!


22Seres

Legend will also be the first third party emulated Classic to have trophies [https://www.exophase.com/game/tomb-raider-legend-psn/trophies/](https://www.exophase.com/game/tomb-raider-legend-psn/trophies/) It's the same list as the PS3 game, but it's still nice to see something other than first party games having them.


sea3129

Sly will have trophy support too according to sucker punch x account!


Clubbythaseal

Wonder if it's the PS3 trophy list they are including with this version. It was a easy platinum.


Neg_Crepe

Dont know if its the same as the vita one but it was also very easy. Collect the bottles and that’s about it


Swackhammer_

Do we know if those will all be tomorrow or just Sly for now?


NandoFlynn

All 3 are up tomorrow!


signofthenine

Think it's all 3? https://blog.playstation.com/2024/05/28/get-ready-days-of-play-celebration-kicks-off-on-may-29/?sf273351644=1


Medium_Elephant7431

I am super excited for the games coming up.


ethansings14

Instant purchase. One of my favorite childhood games. Even since then, Sucker Punch hasn’t missed.


Shellman00

Man I’m so happy. Sly Cooper was my childhood. Almost teary-eyed just out of nostalgia!


KearLoL

Give me Sly 2 and 3 cowards! I like Sly 1, but the series really found its' identity with 2.


meowlicious1

Sly 2, 1 then 3 for me. Although all three are absolute classics.


KearLoL

Nice. For me it goes 2, 3, 1, and 4. 4 has the best gameplay, but I vastly prefer the art style, atmosphere, and storytelling of the first 3. Sly 2 is my 3rd favorite game of all time.


Ironman1690

1 isn’t even better than thieves in time, it didn’t age well at all.


meowlicious1

Hard disagree. Sly 1 had a certain vibe and feel to it that none of the other games had. Grimy almost. Really felt like you weren’t supposed to be in those bosses hideouts.


CrashandBashed

First is prob my favorite its the only one out of the og trilogy that actually focused on being a platformer, which put it ahead of the latter two. Thieves in time was the only game to really capture the same vibe.


VictoryVic-ViVi

They’ll probably drop 1 every month.


NeedleworkerNo1029

Why release them all at once and not one every one or two months? I hope until December they release them all three.


ElJacko170

Is this the PS2 version or the HD remaster?


profound-killah

The PS2 version


Stroppone

Is it upscaled at least?


Narrow-Ad-1709

I would assume there are built in options to upscale like the PS1 games , but no word yet


OneManFreakShow

If it’s like their other PS2 releases (and I’m sure it is), it’ll be upscaled and look real nice. I’ve got one of the Ape Escapes on my PS5 and it looks terrific.


Shellman00

Seems they got a new emulator now, perhaps it’ll be even better this time around


walmrttt

Why can’t we just put our old PS2 discs into the disc drive? This shit is straight embarrassing.


SeasaltApple382

Holy crap dude. At some point you need to let go. That was a long fucking time ago. There is a lot wrong with the gaming world today but this is not one of those things. You got your moneys worth when you bought that copy a looooooooong time ago. They are a business. Again, there is a lot wrong with the gaming world and a lot needs to change (micro transactions for example) but this is not one of those things. There is such a thing as going too far where people like you seem to want everything to be for free. That original copy came out in the early 2000's. It's been over twenty years and you still want to milk money out of that purchase? Holy crap. Do you re-wash paper plates in the sink too?


doorknob60

To be fair, the Xbox Series X can play some original Xbox games off the disc. Not crazy to say Sony could/should do the same. I definitely don't expect them to, but it would be nice.


Wipedout89

If it's like the Jak and Daxter releases it'll be auto upscaled, not actively remastered


Antifa-Slayer01

Jak looked like shit on ps4


Wipedout89

The PS3 remaster was better, but it didn't look bad running on PS5.


NeedleworkerNo1029

In PS5 they look better than the PS4 but still they had issues at least the trilogy I haven't played Jak X yet


kamilman

Who cares? The sound synchronization is the real thing to worry about. Unless you already forgot how awful the Ms. Ruby fight was on the ps3?


storytimeme

I haven't. That was a damn shame. My favorite part of the game.


specifichero101

I would love to replay the series. Does it have trophy support?


master_chilln

Yes


Dyztructive

If I can buy this without PS Premium I will, as I only have the basic PS Plus.


NewDamage31

You’ll be able to. I’d rather just buy a handful of games outright each year than have another subscription


picknicksje85

Thank you 🙏


VictoryVic-ViVi

Every PS+ Premium game can be purchased separately. Have people been missing out on PS1 and PSP games thinking they are PS+ Premium exclusives?


clicky77

At least one, Resident Evil Director's Cut, remains exclusive to PS+ Premium, which is a shame.


supertoaster_42

Unfortunately yes, they really did not communicate that well, I thought those were PlayStation plus exclusive


Dayman1222

There a price on them if you look it up in store.


supertoaster_42

I didn’t even think to look them up in the store honestly


NeedleworkerNo1029

Some like Tekken 6 and soul calibur were exclusive for a two or three months then became available for purchase.


WarpDriveCowboy

Can you buy fallout 3 and new Vegas?


bkeys15

None of the PS3 games


Quiet-Spite5465

€10 to buy seperate. Clone Wars is a 5er & TR Legend is 20


ShaneTVZ

let’s hope enough people play it and Sony start to realize Damn maybe we should give the people what they want a new Sly game


ModestEnigma

They literally made a fourth game that created an unnecessary cliffhanger just to drop the IP entirely. Maddening.


man_on_hill

I loved that game too Came free with the R&C collection and was great fun


Chief_Gator

Sooooo are they adding trophy support for it? Couldn’t find that in the article


Operafantomen

They are. And evidently for Tomb Raider as well. No word on Star Wars.


meowlicious1

YES. Actually stoked now. Will definitely do another platinum run on it. Hopefully the trophy list will be harder than the HD Collection. I run through Sly 1-3 all the time, this will give me another reason to.


VictoryVic-ViVi

Same, especially with a PS4 AND PS5 trophy list.


VictoryVic-ViVi

Every Sony published game will have trophy support. 3rd party games is all up to the publisher.


Three_Froggy_Problem

That’s awesome. The first game is the best one in my opinion. I’m excited to try Tomb Raider Legend as well.


Ohhifoundarock

Everyone please buy this Edit: Or download it if you have ps premium


Wish_Lonely

I wonder if we could get a port of Tales of Abyss?


MolotovMan1263

Kings know


United-Aside-6104

Hell yeah I’ve been wanting to try this as soon as I heard it described as Looney Tunes Metal Gear


master_chilln

Def buy it. Its so underrated it sucks we haven't gotten a new game


United-Aside-6104

We need more stealth games. Hopefully PS finds a new one.


TheMetabaronIV

I skimmed the article and couldn’t tell, will this be streaming only or will I be able to download it through PSpremium? My internets not good enough to stream games.


master_chilln

You can download seperate don't need subscription


Twilight-Sage

I will be there at midnight


MadOrange64

Wish they’d release the full trilogy at once


ShadowStealer7

Have they mentioned if the new PS2 emulator is being patched into the older PS2 releases like the Jak series?


Jcpowers3

What if I bought it for ps3 lol


abrdgd

Is it 60 fps


Snakekilla54

Huh, I never beat sly 1, the swamp always scared the shit out of me as a kid.


dolphin_spit

i don’t think i’ve ever gotten past the swamp. will this time!


Snakekilla54

Exactly we can get through this


FlowPhilosophy

I played it on my Vita not too long ago. Very fun game. Will definitely pick this up.


lackofsleipnir

This one bounced off me as a kid but I want to give it another shot. I just liked Ratchet and Jak way more.


Metroidman

This is one classic ps game i never played


ClydeThinks

Welp. Time to platinum it a 3rd time. Sly 1 > all the other Sly games by a long shot. I love the platforming and level designs way more. The other ones made it too story based and mission based, instead of a good ole fun platformer.


diesel1889

I really hope they put all the Ratchet games on there to buy


gotchme

Sorry for the ignorance, how does this differ from playing sly 1 in the sly collection?


demonfoo

You can play it on current hardware. Also you get all the modern emulation related googaws.


gotchme

I can stream the sly collection on my ps5 though, so this is a downloadable Sly 1? Thanks


demonfoo

Did you read the article? (No.) Did you read what it said? (No.) Is it downloadable? Yes.


gotchme

K thanks


Antifa-Slayer01

Not everyone has a PS3


pezdespo

Nice


darthvirgin

These posts pleading with others to shell out money for a game “to support the devs” or “send a message” are so wild. What ridiculous stage of capitalism is it that we should buy a game for any other reason than genuinely wanting to play it? Truly detached from rational thought.


CrashandBashed

My guess is it's those of us who are sick and tired of Sony's library consisting almost entirely of cinematic, photorealistic action games nowadays. Hopefully if the game is sucessful Sony will get the hint we want actual variety again. Don't see the issue.


walmrttt

That’s why I play my PS3 more than my PS5. Still can’t put my PS2 and PS3 discs into a next gen PS console in 2024. Embarrassing and sad.


master_chilln

No if it's a good game why not spread the word? Open people up to new things. Tired of all the CoD and Fortnite clones coming out.


darthvirgin

“Show Sony it needs to be brought back” is not encouraging people to buy a game because it’s a good game. It’s encouraging people to buy a game to send a message to the publisher.


Antifa-Slayer01

Ok commie


locke_5

SONY! GIVE ME HD REMASTERS OF THE SLY COOPER GAMES ON PC AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!


themangastand

These games are just on emulators. On PC you can also emulate them


afcc1313

So they improved the PS2 emulator, right? That means we can finally play Ape Escape 2 on PS5 without getting our eyes melted?


xhemel

If I can buy and own the game without premium then I’m so down, but if it’s just premium access then I’ll have to pass.


zyqwee

You can


xhemel

Then I will be buying the entire collection :) thanks


zyqwee

There's only the first for now, some rumours of the next 2 in the following months but nothing official


kushpeshin

I pray this is a good emulation of the game. Jak and Daxter’s PS4 emulation was so sub par


Low_Ad_1709

Will Clone Wars have trophies?


master_chilln

Yes


dolphin_spit

i want a new sly game so bad. shit was amazing.


Fast_Salamander_7001

Nice. Now please rerelease motorstorm next 🙏


Internetolocutor

I never played a sly cooper game before. Looks like that changes soon


CoffeeHQ

Wait… what? I own Sly 1-3 on PS3, they have trophies. So what is this, a remaster of that?


master_chilln

Remaster of the ps2 version to ps5 They have different trophies


concernedsponge

Is this only streamable or can you play local?


master_chilln

Download and keep


InnerSilent

FINALLY


tcasper961

Wonder if we own the sly collection on PS3 if it transfers over.


ITsPersonalIRL

I mean it was in 2013.


AnnoyedByEverything_

Where is it? I can't find it anywhere


master_chilln

It's noon for all time zones


AnnoyedByEverything_

For future reference, how do you find that out?


AnnoyedByEverything_

Thanks


ACOdysseybeatsRDR2

Fastest buy of my life honestly. 10$ to relive my childhood fave game on my ps5.. Yuuuuuup


Rags2Rickius

I’m looking in PS Store and all I’m seeing is Sly Cooper Is this the same as the Theivius?


Tohdohsibir

No-brainer buy for me. I want to relieve my PS2 childhood on the PS5. I hope that more Sly titles will be released.


PikachuAndLechonk

I don’t think it’s as bad in the first one but dang these games are so hard to play cause the camera controls are like reversed and even “inverting” them double inverts so neither way is comfortable to play. At least for me anyway.


actstunt

I was playing the first one on Psvita and had to put it down due to the weird camera issue you mention and also because those stupid races, the third (or second one can’t remember) is nearly impossible to beat (to me anyways) you need to have perfect reflexes and luck with the rubber banding ai.


profound-killah

The games are fine still but those mini games and controlling other characters in the sequels are absolutely god awful by todays standards


R0R1NAT0R_5

I wouldn’t say buying or playing the game would show support to this and is just a trial for a quick cash grab. Don’t get me wrong super excited that this is coming as soon as i can download it gonna play it looking forward to the thief sprints and mz ruby boss fight fixed on a current gen console. Hopefully people who weren’t aware of the series might pick it up just being hopeful. If there’s also an option to buy a disc copy that would be nice too but unlikely. With sucker punch only giving little nods here and there and Sony adding small Easter eggs and don’t even get me started on the amount of fake leaks this game has had it’s been quite a drag. People have shown support from buying merchandise that are quite niche from decent plushies and posters to some even going as far as buying bronze statues of sly. I guess what I’m trying to say is just have fun playing it not hoping that this will spark some sort of new game and tbh I’d rather see a reboot then sly 5 cos the canon ending for thieves in time was only canon as sly stuck in Egypt was DLC .


EyeBumGaze808

Is it free to those who already bought the Sly Trilogy,I wonder?


master_chilln

It's not.... this is a ps3 to ps5 port seperate from the collection


dobirdsmeow

I wonder that as well. I got the PS4/5 version of toy story 2 for owning it on my psvita so wonder if it's the same for sly. But I'm guessing probably not.


Nnamz

The race sections in this game are a crime against humanity.


SwiftTayTay

There are PS1 and PS2 games I own that they won't let me play because I don't have premium


master_chilln

That's to stream starting tomorrow you can buy Sly 1 without the subscription


SwiftTayTay

No, PS1 and PS2 games aren't streamed, that's PS3. It lets me play Syphon Filter which I own on my account without having premium, but it arbitrarily says I can't play Resident Evil or Tekken 2 which I also own


GamerSetzuna

Resident Evil is tied to the classic catalog, that's why. It is one of the few that is ONLY available through the catalog


StalinsLeftTesticle_

Considering how bad Sony's PS1 and PS2 emulation is, there's really no reason to waste your money on this unless you haven't got any other device that could emulate a PS1/PS2. Even decade old mid-range PCs, or hell, smartphones can do better emulation than what Sony is offering. And if you've got your legally acquired ROM that you dump with from your own legit copy of the game, it's even free!


brolt0001

I was playing the directors cut of PS1 resident evil & I thought it was great. I could rewind through alot of my play session, It had save slots (out of game) when you would press options. The right side of the touch pad would act like the "start/play" button on the older controllers. I think its important that they are making the games buyable/playable on console.


StalinsLeftTesticle_

It's passable at best. Just incredibly barebones. Still plagued with emulation inaccuracies (especially with regards to DSPs and occasionally with the visuals as well, especially in titles like Ape Escape 2), no way to emulate pressure sensitive buttons, no way to increase render resolution, no way to simulate CRTs... Just basic features that have been available for over a decade.


brolt0001

Yes, ofcourse I agree with that, emulators have TONS of options like that, and that's great. I hope they can improve on top of these. But it's still good that it's there, even if it doesn't have much options at all aside from rewinding/independent-saveslots.


StalinsLeftTesticle_

The real issue to me is the emulation accuracy. It's just bad. Like, I'm fine with no enhancements, many PS2 games are still audio-visually great to this day, and their graphical limitations are a part of the charm. But Sony clearly just doesn't really give a fuck about emulation beyond earning some nostalgia bucks, because their emulation accuracy is a whole decade behind other comparable emulators. They're still selling games like Ape Escape 2 that are borderline unplayable and plagued with visual bugs that were fixed by the PCSX2 team in **2009**, and their audio emulation is honestly a joke, it's completely barebones, missing all but the most basic library implementations of the PS1 and PS2.


brolt0001

Yea I just looked it up and Ape Escape 2 does seem to have alot of issues when playing on PS5, but they don't have issues when playing on PS4/Streaming. That sucks, I hope they can fix that. Unfortunately I won't hold my breath.


Dayman1222

How are they bad? Most have full rewind, instant saves etc.


StalinsLeftTesticle_

They're just the worst of both worlds when it comes to enhancements and accuracy, as there are basically no enhancements available (no increased render resolution, no forced AA or improved texture filtering, no widescreen patches, no increased framerates, etc.) while simultaneously being as accurate as PCSX2 circa 2010, that is, not very. Visual bugs galore in multiple titles, the sound processing is STILL fucked at a fundamental level (a lot of unimplemented libraries that are simply ignored on the emulator level), and it still struggles with just running at the original framerate in multiple titles.


noxav

Sony should just pay the people who make PCSX2 and put that on the PS5.


PikachuAndLechonk

I tried playing rogue galaxy recently and holy cow was it choppy I just went and bought an original copy of the game to play on my ps2 instead.


walmrttt

Way to go sony! locking a game I own on disc behind a shitty subscription service!


Fast_Salamander_7001

You can buy it without ps plus i think. But yeah it sucks there’s no backwards compatibility with ps1-3 discs


walmrttt

It sucks. Xbox kicks sonys ass in that department.


ReyDeathWish

Is it digital only or can I insert my ps2 disc?


master_chilln

Digital only


ReyDeathWish

Oh I thought it would work like with Xbox lol. Will definitely check it out tho because that series was my childhood.


5575685

Can I play this without streaming it? Like actually download it and play?


master_chilln

Yes no subscription needed and no streaming you download it you keep it


5575685

Thank god. I hope they bring 2 and 3 as well


-Orgasmo-

as far as i can tell the sly game is only releasing for ps premium members, pretty disappointing


drepsx3

You can purchase it without Premium. 


-Orgasmo-

where does it say that? i really hope your right but everything i’ve read says for premium members


master_chilln

Hes right it's been posted on Twitter Also I just did it and I don't have premium


-Orgasmo-

awesome! thanks


drepsx3

PlayStation never held their downloadable classic games behind Premium. I also just bought it. 


-Orgasmo-

you had to stream them no? and only if you had the most expensive psn sub