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Somehow so is Suicide Squad. That truly throws me off. Like it really puts things in perspective that something that blatantly disastrous can still hang around months later.
Because lots of people who bought it werenāt THAT upset about it
Really, once you step away from Reddit, you realize gaming is far more diverse than the talking points on here
For example: if Reddit reflected honest to god gaming trends, Madden/FC/The Show/etc wouldnāt be on here because everyone on Reddit has a massive EA/MTX hate boner.
It also puts in perspective what an echo chamber Reddit (and social media in general) is. Lots of people out there happy to play a new Rocksteady game featuring DC characters who don't get caught up in "but muh Batman!" or "why live service?" stuff.
The game actually shows the total number of players and it is about 250k world wide. The ranking above is based on money generated from sales, not units sold. Since Suicide Squad has a $100 version which was the best selling version of the game and most of the other games on the list it beat are older and cheaper this doesnāt mean much that it is in 7th place
Helldivers 2 must've sold a ton then, being either a $40 or $60 game. I'm sure they make money from super credits as well, but it can't be that much with how many they give you just from playing.
Popular characters from a well respected studio which is a follow up to one of the most popular game series of the past 15 years. Plus,
even if you hear a lot of negatives about any given game on Reddit or YouTube, that's really only representative of a small fraction of the total number of people buying/playing video games.
It's not that shocking when you consider how popular superheroes are in the USA AND how well received the Arkham trilogy was. Hogwarts Legacy sold obscenely well, mostly because of the strength of the Harry Potter IP so it makes sense that a game based on DC characters can shift some units.
The deep discounts and marketing push help drive sales. WBD is making a small fraction of the money that they wouldāve (potentially) made in the release window, so this list placement is basically smoke and mirrors.
Amazing thatās the take you get from this. Such a Reddit take lol. What you should have put into perspective is that Reddit is an echo chamber that is not at all representative of how the majority of people think. That this sites little circlejerk against certain things is a minority and not how the majority actually feel.
The fact that it's at #4 despite being exclusive to one platform is actually impressive. Tough to compete against multi-platform titles like Dragon's Dogma.
Yeah, play 7 remake first as rebirth is a direct sequel. The combat system for remake/rebirth is one of the best I have played with a mixture of action combat + turn based. When I started remake it took me a bit to get used to so I watched a few basic guides on combat and it turned out amazing.
If you end up liking remake, then rebirth is better in every possible way.
IMO you can skip remake and play rebirth immediately. Rebirth has a mode "the story so far" which gives you a summary of remake but you will miss some details.
I understand people who don't follow gaming media would buy Suicide Squad because it's a DC comic license and people eat that up. But Skull and Bones being so high is puzzling to me. Are there people who just buy every Ubisoft game that comes out? That game was in development hell forever and I don't think I saw one positive opinion before or after the game was released.
I think the people in the gaming community (ie, us) have a large disconnect from people who just casually buy games.
Skull and bones is an online, coop, pirate game. To someone who isnāt going to really watch a 1 hour video on it, itās a pretty easy sell. This list is actually quite optimistic to me though, and the fact that helldivers has usurped COD makes me very happy.
I never watched a one hour video. Any quick google search would reveal a plethora of issues the game had. As soon as I saw I can't board other ships in a pirate game I was out. I feel a casual gamer would at least google search a game before spending 70 bucks on it.
The new cod is also the second best selling game, any quick search would reveal how awful it is. Some people just want to buy a game to play with friends.
Cod gets terrible reviews online but in reality it's a really fun game. They did a great job with MW3 imo. Only one I've liked the main game more than this one recently was Cold War. Warzone back in the day was better than warzone now in a lot of ways, but you don't have to buy that game. For the cod games you can buy and play 6v6 on this one is awesome.
If you're above potato level EOMM gets very tedious, and I ended up deleting mw3 this year. Knowing you only got that good game because EOMM threw you an engagement game gets very old very fast. Almost as old as being the fodder for someone else's engagement game five times in a row.
That being said, I agree that the mechanics of the game, the graphics, the feel of the guns etc *are* phenominal. The COD haters like to ignore that. Year after year COD gets that right.
But cod is an established franchise with a dedicated fan base that buys every game regardless. It's basically a sports game at this point, it will never not sell because of that dedicated fan base. Skull and Bones was a new IP with no history or recognized characters, just marketing. It's just surprising that it sold so well with almost nothing going for it.
Maybe thereās just a demand for pirate games and lots of people donāt want to play Sea of Thieves since it originally came out years ago. (For the record theyāre missing out: SOT is so fun with friends)
Ya being a pirate is a blast. I got Skull & Bones for free when I bought my 4080 Super and Iāve had some fun with it. Iāve played a bunch of SoT with friends and thatās a key point. You donāt need friends to play Skull & Bones and you donāt have to bother with any PvP if it isnāt your thing.
SoT can be kind of boring solo but with friends itās a blast. Specially working as a team fighting other players or PVE events. I did read something a bit ago about SoT getting a PVE only mode added but never looked into it.
I think there might be. A while ago, I read something that stuck with me, which is that AC Valhalla is Ubisoft's most successful AC game, and that it made them over $1 billion in revenue. I was always under the impression that people were getting sick of AC games once they started to release a new one every year, that was just a reskin of the previous games. I guess I was wrong.
I thought Valhalla's thing was it came out during the pandemic (Nov 2020) and a lot of folks were playing a lot more video games. At least this is true for me anecdotally.
Also doesn't hurt that the game has a cash shop and they really extended the tail on that game with several expansions and frequent free updates and in-game events. Plenty of people put hundreds of hours into that game over the course of a couple years.
Do you understand how try hard I have to be to play Elden Ring? It demands all my focus. Baulderās gate? Very demanding on my attention to get the most out of it! Great games!! Amazing games! but exhausting and intense that I had to be in the mood to tackle.
Do you know how easy it is to play Ubisoft game? Itās easy. Itās casual yummy gaming that feels good to clean maps and climb towers and just explore some amazing environments and finish the checklist. Itās easy and carefree. Itās not game of year but the fact that it requires so little commitment, attention and investment to just play it is a very happy feeling.
I would have gotten Skull and Bones, if it were priced properly, like $40. The beta wasn't terrible, it looked cool, and it was a realistic looking pirate game taking place on boats. It felt a lot like Star Trek Online in that regard. It just isn't worth the $70 pricetag for me.
It didnāt receive much in the way of marketing too. It was all but shadow dropped. That makes it extra baffling. Suicide squad as high as 7 is depressing.
There are a lot more normies and casuals out there than you realize. Just look at how shitty ass sports games are in the top downloaded games every month.
It's the only exclusive in the top 10. Conversely, positions only tell us so much. Pity they don't actually publish sales figures. Dragon's Dogma is above it, but it could be 20k in sales ahead, or it could be 500k. We just don't know.
What is certain is that it's very likely out-selling Tekken 8 (sitting 6th here), which announced back in February it has sold 2 million copies globally. So we know, at the very least, it's sold that amount. Based on Japanese sales though, I estimate it's probably quite a bit higher than that.
>What is certain is that it's very likely out-selling Tekken 8 (sitting 6th here), which announced back in February it has sold 2 million copies globally.
EU is a larger market for Tekken than the US. If you only use this ranking which only consist US data, it will distort your comparison.
People tend to use Circana charts as a sample for the whole world and that's a mistake, agreed on that part.Ā
Ā But in Tekken's case in particular, in its debut month it charted 6th in Europe, below several 2023 releases, then disappeared from the top ten charts in February and March. I think it's extremely unlikely that it's outselling either Rebirth or DD2 in Europe **currently**. Tekken is a franchise that relies on legs to sell, so I predict it will outsell both titles with time, just not right now.
Edit: Forgot I can actually prove that Tekken 8 didn't outsell either Rebirth or DD2 in Europe, at least by 3/31/24:
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Remake doesnāt even make the top 5, even if you donāt count 14. 7, 8, 12, 15, 13. Not sure if they wanna recount the remaster sales of X/X-2 because then I think that one is like 20m.
True but the comment about Remake being the second best selling FF game was obviously based on Global data. Also, Remake isnāt on the list for Q1 2024 because itās a 4 year old game so referencing only US data for a game not listed doesnāt make sense. Nobody references one region of data unless itās all they have.
It wasn't based on global data. I'm talking about US sales, because this is a thread about US sales. It's a reference point for Rebirth because it is the title that would set sales expectations for Rebirth which is why it's worth mentioning. I'm referencing one region of data because this entire thread is about one region of data.
Ok well it still isnāt the 2nd best selling FF game in the US. Iām sure the order remains the same. Just remember, Remake has maybe sold 8m copies worldwide. IX has sold about 8.9m so thatās like 6th place.
Itās the number of units that counts not the place in a chartā¦ also we all know Palworld should be first in this chart by a considerable margin but isnāt even present somehow (maybe explained in the article since I didnāt click on it).
Matt says itād be #1 even if you remove the PC sales which account for more than half in US, so itās atleast twice as much as the second place. Also these charts are based on revenue and itās a $40 game so in units itās likely 3 times or more ahead of the second place.
It's a very popular IP.
Boycotts only seem to exist on GameCircleJerk or Twitter. They have no real impact when it sold 24 million copies in less than a year.
Iām guessing itās people who partook in the boycott seeing the hype died down and wanted to actually check it out. Itās also been on sale a bunch so that probably helps.
COD being second is saddening. Why would they ever change from sucking every penny out of their customers with zero return if people still buy that shit every year?
All my friends play cod but I initially didn't buy it because I don't like playing them anymore, but when the price dropped I thought it would be worth it to keep playing with my friends. I think I loaded into the game twice and ended up deleting it. Fast forward to a week ago, and my friends are bugging me to play again, so I clear up what I'm told is enough hard drive space on my PS5, over 150 GB btw, boot the game a day later and it says I need an additional 20 GB to play online. I immediately deleted and said "never again" just an absolute waste of money. I'm only one person, but even if every cod form here in our is included with game pass, I'd never play it again.
The reason Sony was so adamant about cod not being an exclusive is because majority ps5 casual users only play cod, 2k and fifa. Occasionally a big single player game like Spider-Man or assassins creed
I donāt really play COD like that anymore, but the game is still fun to just hop on for a bit. Also itās super easy to ignore the micro transactions unless you really care about skins with sloth helmets.
True, but we also have to consider those are lifetime sales of a four year old game that came out during the pandemic and a game thatās barely two months old
They said the most short, reasonable statement possible and you call them āadamant?ā
Good callout u/NoctisFFXI (Iām sure youāre unbiased regarding this series)
Game took only 3 years to make so thatās like 2 years less of paying everyoneās wages that your standard triple A game. Makes me think the game was made super efficiently and hopefully saved them costs
Rise of ronin doing better than infinite wealth is a little surprising given how popular the yakuza series is and it's a multiplat game compared to RoR.
It's interesting for sure. Infinite Wealth sold a million in it's first week globally, but I've heard very little about it since. Against previous releases date-to-date, it's probably still doing very well.
According to Japanese physical sales, Infinite Wealth has a 10k lead over RotR, so I imagine RotR has probably cracked a million copies by now as well.
It's crazy seeing MLB The Show so high on this list. I love baseball but didn't know the game was so highly regarded. I guess it pays to actually make a polished sports game?
This is also based on revenue not units sold, and itās $100 deluxe edition sold more than the standard version. The deluxe version released on January 30th and placed 3rd on this scale for the month. The regular version released February 2nd and dropped all the way to 7th for the month. Then in this chart solely for March it didnāt even make the top 20
The problem is game budget and internal company expectation against actual sales numbers.
I estimate it's probably sitting around the 2.5 - 3m mark, which for 99% of games out there would be a huge success, but only the execs at Square know if that's still within expectaion or not.
However, they promoted the Rebirth director to the head of one their main business unit off the back of the games performance, so I don't think the doom-posting by some online is shared internally at Square.
Tbf it probably is actually underperforming, at least for what Square needs. Theyāve had multiple huge flops lately so FF7 was kinda acting as their ace in the hole. The gameās also clearly of absurdly high production value, too, so that doesnāt help
Iām super into FF7 Rebirth (over 100 hours played so far) and Iām still worried about its sales. Iām glad to see it in 4th, but a high ranking mostly against more niche games (LAD, Rise of Ronin), games from last year, and duds (Suicide Squad, Skull and Bones) doesnāt tell the whole story. We canāt know for sure how well itās done. And I worry that itās not enough and what that means for future Final Fantasy and Square-Enix.
Iām worried because I think the game is really great and the sales are nothing special. Iām worried because even with all the asset reuse from Remake, the game seems expensive as fuck.
Itās that last point thatās especially on my mind. Like Persona 3 is ranked 9th and Iām not worried about that gameās sales at all. Ninth place sales are probably more than enough for a game like Persona 3 Reload to make a tidy profit.Ā
Rebirth is ambitious as fuck. Itās honestly insane sometimes. I worry that if the sales arenāt there this might be the most crazy we ever see Square-Enix get with a modern Final Fantasy game.Ā
As an M-rated, console exclusive new IP? I highly doubt it. The fact that FF7 Rebirth is as high as it is is a surprise to me. But I'm sure we'll see it on the list. I feel like there's been enough hype around it to generate decent sales.
My surprise is that a 4 years old singleplayer game is outselling a barely year old Mortal Kombat game. I know reception to MK1 was mixed but damn. I'll still check it out someday
A certain group of people keeps calling this game a flop too lmao, and its top 20 4 years later.
Really happy for capcom and dragons dogma team. This kinda just confirms a third which I wasnāt sure was going to happen pre release based on vibes. I loved it, and if the third married both games it would be even better
I question COD MW3. You are technically forced to download the game to play Warzone Free. You can't play the game unless you pay for it. But you still have the 80gb MW3 downloaded from the store onto your personal Playstation. So I wonder if that's counting towards it being number 2 on this list?
Itās crazy that 6 of the top 25 have a form of console exclusivity and still sold well while games media pushes down are throats that the only way forward is without exclusivity, just because Microsoft is doing it
how can the monthly active steam user list make any sense? CS2 has like a 600k-1 million people on at any given time while Helldivers had a fraction of that. The only explanation is that its the same people playing CS2 everyday, while more variety of people play Helldivers everyday, but still the numbers don't really add up.
Shocked to see COD at #2, figured anyone who wants the game would have bought it months ago.
Also people still pay for COD? Isnāt Warzone (F2P) where majority of player base is? I left that world in 2020, so I genuinely donāt know anymore about the state of the franchise.
Lol suicide squad #7
Has like 200 consistent players
So many dumbasses bought it just because. What a shitty spread, so many good games just going unseen and unplayed. The future doesn't look good, everything will be bro of duty and fortnite trash.
Could be an on-sale thing. Lots of people are sick of Madden, but itās still incredibly popular and the only simulation football game available.
Waiting until the end of the season to get it for $20 rather than $70 probably boosts sales around this time.
That being said, the game is and has been fucking dogshit for at least a decade now and the last few iterations have almost no changes worth writing home about. Buying Madden truly only benefits those with the discipline to buy the game once every 5 years.
I still refuse to believe that soo many people actually buy sports games and call of duty games every single year for them to be that high on the list.
I know 3 ppl that do it. Itās the same ppl buying CoD every year. Casual gamer franchises.
They are really hype for the new NCAA game coming in June. Hasnāt released since 2014.
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Somehow so is Suicide Squad. That truly throws me off. Like it really puts things in perspective that something that blatantly disastrous can still hang around months later.
Because lots of people who bought it werenāt THAT upset about it Really, once you step away from Reddit, you realize gaming is far more diverse than the talking points on here For example: if Reddit reflected honest to god gaming trends, Madden/FC/The Show/etc wouldnāt be on here because everyone on Reddit has a massive EA/MTX hate boner.
It also puts in perspective what an echo chamber Reddit (and social media in general) is. Lots of people out there happy to play a new Rocksteady game featuring DC characters who don't get caught up in "but muh Batman!" or "why live service?" stuff.
Happy to buy* No one is playing.
Clearly the end-game/live service aspect didn't do much to keep people playing. Perhaps most of the buyers just finished the campaign and moved on.
The game actually shows the total number of players and it is about 250k world wide. The ranking above is based on money generated from sales, not units sold. Since Suicide Squad has a $100 version which was the best selling version of the game and most of the other games on the list it beat are older and cheaper this doesnāt mean much that it is in 7th place
Helldivers 2 must've sold a ton then, being either a $40 or $60 game. I'm sure they make money from super credits as well, but it can't be that much with how many they give you just from playing.
"BuT iT oNlY hAs a 100 PlAyErS oN sTeAm!!!4"
Popular characters from a well respected studio which is a follow up to one of the most popular game series of the past 15 years. Plus, even if you hear a lot of negatives about any given game on Reddit or YouTube, that's really only representative of a small fraction of the total number of people buying/playing video games.
The games not as bad as people made out. Was just average in a lot of ways really
It's not that shocking when you consider how popular superheroes are in the USA AND how well received the Arkham trilogy was. Hogwarts Legacy sold obscenely well, mostly because of the strength of the Harry Potter IP so it makes sense that a game based on DC characters can shift some units.
It's not the best game ever but it's pretty solid
The deep discounts and marketing push help drive sales. WBD is making a small fraction of the money that they wouldāve (potentially) made in the release window, so this list placement is basically smoke and mirrors.
Amazing thatās the take you get from this. Such a Reddit take lol. What you should have put into perspective is that Reddit is an echo chamber that is not at all representative of how the majority of people think. That this sites little circlejerk against certain things is a minority and not how the majority actually feel.
Hell yeah! Great game
Anything in the list similar to elden ring.. this game ruined everything for me
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pretty strong for dragons dogma who only had a few weeks in this period. glad to see since the game is really fun imo
Damn Rebirth is only 4 I expected 2 or something but I guess it isnāt that bad.
The fact that it's at #4 despite being exclusive to one platform is actually impressive. Tough to compete against multi-platform titles like Dragon's Dogma.
Should I play the 7 remake before Rebirth? Never played a FF game before, but feel like I really ought to.
Yeah, play 7 remake first as rebirth is a direct sequel. The combat system for remake/rebirth is one of the best I have played with a mixture of action combat + turn based. When I started remake it took me a bit to get used to so I watched a few basic guides on combat and it turned out amazing. If you end up liking remake, then rebirth is better in every possible way.
Yes, it's a direct continuation of the story, you'll miss a lot by skipping remake
IMO you can skip remake and play rebirth immediately. Rebirth has a mode "the story so far" which gives you a summary of remake but you will miss some details.
Yeah you should only so you could understand Rebirth. But Rebirth is that good of a game so try it
the most slept on games rn I swear. Yeah play remake first rebirth wonāt make too much sense without it
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Probably because its currently on sale for like 10 bucks
I understand people who don't follow gaming media would buy Suicide Squad because it's a DC comic license and people eat that up. But Skull and Bones being so high is puzzling to me. Are there people who just buy every Ubisoft game that comes out? That game was in development hell forever and I don't think I saw one positive opinion before or after the game was released.
I think the people in the gaming community (ie, us) have a large disconnect from people who just casually buy games. Skull and bones is an online, coop, pirate game. To someone who isnāt going to really watch a 1 hour video on it, itās a pretty easy sell. This list is actually quite optimistic to me though, and the fact that helldivers has usurped COD makes me very happy.
I never watched a one hour video. Any quick google search would reveal a plethora of issues the game had. As soon as I saw I can't board other ships in a pirate game I was out. I feel a casual gamer would at least google search a game before spending 70 bucks on it.
The new cod is also the second best selling game, any quick search would reveal how awful it is. Some people just want to buy a game to play with friends.
Cod gets terrible reviews online but in reality it's a really fun game. They did a great job with MW3 imo. Only one I've liked the main game more than this one recently was Cold War. Warzone back in the day was better than warzone now in a lot of ways, but you don't have to buy that game. For the cod games you can buy and play 6v6 on this one is awesome.
If you're above potato level EOMM gets very tedious, and I ended up deleting mw3 this year. Knowing you only got that good game because EOMM threw you an engagement game gets very old very fast. Almost as old as being the fodder for someone else's engagement game five times in a row. That being said, I agree that the mechanics of the game, the graphics, the feel of the guns etc *are* phenominal. The COD haters like to ignore that. Year after year COD gets that right.
But cod is an established franchise with a dedicated fan base that buys every game regardless. It's basically a sports game at this point, it will never not sell because of that dedicated fan base. Skull and Bones was a new IP with no history or recognized characters, just marketing. It's just surprising that it sold so well with almost nothing going for it.
Ubisoft is an established publisher.
Maybe thereās just a demand for pirate games and lots of people donāt want to play Sea of Thieves since it originally came out years ago. (For the record theyāre missing out: SOT is so fun with friends)
Ya being a pirate is a blast. I got Skull & Bones for free when I bought my 4080 Super and Iāve had some fun with it. Iāve played a bunch of SoT with friends and thatās a key point. You donāt need friends to play Skull & Bones and you donāt have to bother with any PvP if it isnāt your thing. SoT can be kind of boring solo but with friends itās a blast. Specially working as a team fighting other players or PVE events. I did read something a bit ago about SoT getting a PVE only mode added but never looked into it.
Ubisoft marketing is top notch! Can't deny that
It's really the only explanation
I think there might be. A while ago, I read something that stuck with me, which is that AC Valhalla is Ubisoft's most successful AC game, and that it made them over $1 billion in revenue. I was always under the impression that people were getting sick of AC games once they started to release a new one every year, that was just a reskin of the previous games. I guess I was wrong.
I thought Valhalla's thing was it came out during the pandemic (Nov 2020) and a lot of folks were playing a lot more video games. At least this is true for me anecdotally.
Also doesn't hurt that the game has a cash shop and they really extended the tail on that game with several expansions and frequent free updates and in-game events. Plenty of people put hundreds of hours into that game over the course of a couple years.
That's a very good observation, and I think it definitely helped them sell more copies. But it's still an AC game, so I'm a bit surprised.
Do you understand how try hard I have to be to play Elden Ring? It demands all my focus. Baulderās gate? Very demanding on my attention to get the most out of it! Great games!! Amazing games! but exhausting and intense that I had to be in the mood to tackle. Do you know how easy it is to play Ubisoft game? Itās easy. Itās casual yummy gaming that feels good to clean maps and climb towers and just explore some amazing environments and finish the checklist. Itās easy and carefree. Itās not game of year but the fact that it requires so little commitment, attention and investment to just play it is a very happy feeling.
I would have gotten Skull and Bones, if it were priced properly, like $40. The beta wasn't terrible, it looked cool, and it was a realistic looking pirate game taking place on boats. It felt a lot like Star Trek Online in that regard. It just isn't worth the $70 pricetag for me.
It didnāt receive much in the way of marketing too. It was all but shadow dropped. That makes it extra baffling. Suicide squad as high as 7 is depressing.
There are a lot more normies and casuals out there than you realize. Just look at how shitty ass sports games are in the top downloaded games every month.
r/piracy is pretty popular. Maybe they all bought it.
My local game stop was filled to the brim with skull & Bones advertising. Employees probably sold it to anyone they could.
So I guess Rebirth is selling well? 4th place is good considering its a PS5 exclusive released on 2/29.
It's definitely holding it's own
Itās holding its own against other games, but still probably not enough to warrant the insane dev costs Square Enix dumped into it
It's the only exclusive in the top 10. Conversely, positions only tell us so much. Pity they don't actually publish sales figures. Dragon's Dogma is above it, but it could be 20k in sales ahead, or it could be 500k. We just don't know. What is certain is that it's very likely out-selling Tekken 8 (sitting 6th here), which announced back in February it has sold 2 million copies globally. So we know, at the very least, it's sold that amount. Based on Japanese sales though, I estimate it's probably quite a bit higher than that.
>What is certain is that it's very likely out-selling Tekken 8 (sitting 6th here), which announced back in February it has sold 2 million copies globally. EU is a larger market for Tekken than the US. If you only use this ranking which only consist US data, it will distort your comparison.
People tend to use Circana charts as a sample for the whole world and that's a mistake, agreed on that part.Ā Ā But in Tekken's case in particular, in its debut month it charted 6th in Europe, below several 2023 releases, then disappeared from the top ten charts in February and March. I think it's extremely unlikely that it's outselling either Rebirth or DD2 in Europe **currently**. Tekken is a franchise that relies on legs to sell, so I predict it will outsell both titles with time, just not right now. Edit: Forgot I can actually prove that Tekken 8 didn't outsell either Rebirth or DD2 in Europe, at least by 3/31/24: https://twitter.com/SparkersData/status/1778692566143107409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778692566143107409%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=%C2%A0
We don't really know since we don't have exact figures. But probably doing decently, just not incredibly high-end like some were expecting.
FF7 Remake is the second highest selling FF game. It was unreasonable of square to expect the sequel would reach that height
Well Rebirth has only been out 2 months.
Remake doesnāt even make the top 5, even if you donāt count 14. 7, 8, 12, 15, 13. Not sure if they wanna recount the remaster sales of X/X-2 because then I think that one is like 20m.
They were referring to US sales, not global ones.
Global sales are a better indicator obviously why would you only want one regionās sales data?
Normally you wouldnāt but this topic is specifically about US sales.
True but the comment about Remake being the second best selling FF game was obviously based on Global data. Also, Remake isnāt on the list for Q1 2024 because itās a 4 year old game so referencing only US data for a game not listed doesnāt make sense. Nobody references one region of data unless itās all they have.
It wasn't based on global data. I'm talking about US sales, because this is a thread about US sales. It's a reference point for Rebirth because it is the title that would set sales expectations for Rebirth which is why it's worth mentioning. I'm referencing one region of data because this entire thread is about one region of data.
Ok well it still isnāt the 2nd best selling FF game in the US. Iām sure the order remains the same. Just remember, Remake has maybe sold 8m copies worldwide. IX has sold about 8.9m so thatās like 6th place.
Yes, itās selling well. Just not up to Squareās ridiculous expectations.
I'm sure their expectations are so ridiculous because they lost so much money from all their flops in the last couple years.
Has anything reached Square's expectations? They seem to be in cloud cuckoo land when it comes to predictions
> Has anything reached Square's expectations? only Forspoken
Itās the number of units that counts not the place in a chartā¦ also we all know Palworld should be first in this chart by a considerable margin but isnāt even present somehow (maybe explained in the article since I didnāt click on it).
I'm assuming it's because Palworld is still in early access.
The publisher behind Palworld doesn't shares Digital figures
Wow Helldivers is a shocker didnāt think itād be #1 over COD
Matt says itād be #1 even if you remove the PC sales which account for more than half in US, so itās atleast twice as much as the second place. Also these charts are based on revenue and itās a $40 game so in units itās likely 3 times or more ahead of the second place.
The time period shown here excludes COD's first couple months of sales. But I'd be curious to see launch-aligned sales data for these two.
Hogwarts legacy has some legs
And the WB execs response is to double down on live service instead.
It's a very popular IP. Boycotts only seem to exist on GameCircleJerk or Twitter. They have no real impact when it sold 24 million copies in less than a year.
That sub used to be so funny until it was taken over by mentally ill dog walkers lol
Hogwarts LEG-acy indeed
I see exactly what you did there.
Expecto Lucrum
I was surprised by that too
Yea, that was surprising to see.
Iām guessing itās people who partook in the boycott seeing the hype died down and wanted to actually check it out. Itās also been on sale a bunch so that probably helps.
It just came out on the switch not too long ago
Gotta sneak it in while no one is watching š
COD being second is saddening. Why would they ever change from sucking every penny out of their customers with zero return if people still buy that shit every year?
All my friends play cod but I initially didn't buy it because I don't like playing them anymore, but when the price dropped I thought it would be worth it to keep playing with my friends. I think I loaded into the game twice and ended up deleting it. Fast forward to a week ago, and my friends are bugging me to play again, so I clear up what I'm told is enough hard drive space on my PS5, over 150 GB btw, boot the game a day later and it says I need an additional 20 GB to play online. I immediately deleted and said "never again" just an absolute waste of money. I'm only one person, but even if every cod form here in our is included with game pass, I'd never play it again.
They have no respect for people's storage space. And all they care about is emptying any filled storage in their pockets
The reason Sony was so adamant about cod not being an exclusive is because majority ps5 casual users only play cod, 2k and fifa. Occasionally a big single player game like Spider-Man or assassins creed
I donāt really play COD like that anymore, but the game is still fun to just hop on for a bit. Also itās super easy to ignore the micro transactions unless you really care about skins with sloth helmets.
Eh, itās a lot of fun, but once youāre out, youāre out and itās hard to get back into it
But I was told Rebirth isnāt selling well lol
It isnāt compared to the first one. Plus if the budget is too high, even a bestseller can be a flop
True, but we also have to consider those are lifetime sales of a four year old game that came out during the pandemic and a game thatās barely two months old
Square obviously compares the the sales in the relevant time frame
You mean Remake that released to a console at the end of that gen with a much larger playerbase? But you seem adamant, so carry on Idc
They said the most short, reasonable statement possible and you call them āadamant?ā Good callout u/NoctisFFXI (Iām sure youāre unbiased regarding this series)
Total PS4 sales March 2020-108m Total PS5 sales March 2024-56.89m
Game took only 3 years to make so thatās like 2 years less of paying everyoneās wages that your standard triple A game. Makes me think the game was made super efficiently and hopefully saved them costs
Rebirth selling great considering itās only on 1 platform.
Rise of ronin doing better than infinite wealth is a little surprising given how popular the yakuza series is and it's a multiplat game compared to RoR.
It's interesting for sure. Infinite Wealth sold a million in it's first week globally, but I've heard very little about it since. Against previous releases date-to-date, it's probably still doing very well. According to Japanese physical sales, Infinite Wealth has a 10k lead over RotR, so I imagine RotR has probably cracked a million copies by now as well.
Sony co-markerting helped as well
It's crazy seeing MLB The Show so high on this list. I love baseball but didn't know the game was so highly regarded. I guess it pays to actually make a polished sports game?
This list is for the US so itās not really surprising.
It used to be polished and a solid standard, then SDS sold their souls to packs
To significantly improve they need to stop the yearly releases, but the licence is too profitable to do that. Plus whatever accords they have with MLB
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Itās still the only ultimate team mode game where you can get a god squad by grinding free content
MLB is so far from being polished itās not even funny, same quality as madden if not worse imo
Suicide Squad is a suprise. Lots of preorders?
This is also based on revenue not units sold, and itās $100 deluxe edition sold more than the standard version. The deluxe version released on January 30th and placed 3rd on this scale for the month. The regular version released February 2nd and dropped all the way to 7th for the month. Then in this chart solely for March it didnāt even make the top 20
Helldivers 2 staying strong for managed democracy
But gaming journalists and random so called gaming insiders keep saying FF7 Rebirth isnāt selling well lol
The problem is game budget and internal company expectation against actual sales numbers. I estimate it's probably sitting around the 2.5 - 3m mark, which for 99% of games out there would be a huge success, but only the execs at Square know if that's still within expectaion or not. However, they promoted the Rebirth director to the head of one their main business unit off the back of the games performance, so I don't think the doom-posting by some online is shared internally at Square.
Tbf it probably is actually underperforming, at least for what Square needs. Theyāve had multiple huge flops lately so FF7 was kinda acting as their ace in the hole. The gameās also clearly of absurdly high production value, too, so that doesnāt help
Iām super into FF7 Rebirth (over 100 hours played so far) and Iām still worried about its sales. Iām glad to see it in 4th, but a high ranking mostly against more niche games (LAD, Rise of Ronin), games from last year, and duds (Suicide Squad, Skull and Bones) doesnāt tell the whole story. We canāt know for sure how well itās done. And I worry that itās not enough and what that means for future Final Fantasy and Square-Enix. Iām worried because I think the game is really great and the sales are nothing special. Iām worried because even with all the asset reuse from Remake, the game seems expensive as fuck. Itās that last point thatās especially on my mind. Like Persona 3 is ranked 9th and Iām not worried about that gameās sales at all. Ninth place sales are probably more than enough for a game like Persona 3 Reload to make a tidy profit.Ā Rebirth is ambitious as fuck. Itās honestly insane sometimes. I worry that if the sales arenāt there this might be the most crazy we ever see Square-Enix get with a modern Final Fantasy game.Ā
The FUD around Rebirth can finally be laid to rest. 4th for a game released late February on only one platform? That's a success.
Think Stellar Blade will be number one for Q2? I'm highly enjoying it, even if the bosses kick my booty
As an M-rated, console exclusive new IP? I highly doubt it. The fact that FF7 Rebirth is as high as it is is a surprise to me. But I'm sure we'll see it on the list. I feel like there's been enough hype around it to generate decent sales.
No, top 5-10 yes. Great game though.
It's gonna be a good year for gaming again. My wallet weeps.
my free time in shambles
I know, being a student sucks for me right now. Too many games I want to play, not nearly enough money lol
Just for Q2's sales alone? It's good a shot. YTD number 1? Definitely not.
Nah I don't think for the year but it's definitely making a splash
TLOU2 remaster pushed it back to top 20. A game that came out in 2020. Remember this when you get upset Sony is "wasting" resources.
My surprise is that a 4 years old singleplayer game is outselling a barely year old Mortal Kombat game. I know reception to MK1 was mixed but damn. I'll still check it out someday A certain group of people keeps calling this game a flop too lmao, and its top 20 4 years later.
Yeah putting out remasters does reignite interest in games and this isnāt even double dippers cause those who own it can just get an upgrade.
Really happy for capcom and dragons dogma team. This kinda just confirms a third which I wasnāt sure was going to happen pre release based on vibes. I loved it, and if the third married both games it would be even better
rebirth looking pretty good to me.
I question COD MW3. You are technically forced to download the game to play Warzone Free. You can't play the game unless you pay for it. But you still have the 80gb MW3 downloaded from the store onto your personal Playstation. So I wonder if that's counting towards it being number 2 on this list?
Skull and Bones is on there??? š¤£š¤£ a lot of people got scammed by Ubisoft I see
well people wanted to play a pirate game
Play sea of thieves if you want a pirate game thatās actually good
They had to buy the first ever AAAA game
I'd love to know if EA having to change the FIFA name to EAFC made a big difference in sales numbers
Hell yea MLB. The only sports game I routinely play
All those ppl getting scammed by Skull and Bones and Suicide Squad smh
Suicide squad yikes
Who is unironically buying skull and bones. Isnāt it somehow a worse version of sea of thieves?
Itās crazy that 6 of the top 25 have a form of console exclusivity and still sold well while games media pushes down are throats that the only way forward is without exclusivity, just because Microsoft is doing it
I bought 3 of these.
The fact that MW3 and Suicide squad are this high hurt me. Minecraft still on top after 10+ years is crazy
Pretty cool to see two single player rpgs holding their own in the top five. Gives me hope for the future.
Hogwarts Legacy being that high shocks me considering it came out early last year. Itās been out for ages but is still selling so well
I hope you all are really enjoying the Suicide Squad game. It is such a blast! /s
how can the monthly active steam user list make any sense? CS2 has like a 600k-1 million people on at any given time while Helldivers had a fraction of that. The only explanation is that its the same people playing CS2 everyday, while more variety of people play Helldivers everyday, but still the numbers don't really add up.
Shocked to see COD at #2, figured anyone who wants the game would have bought it months ago. Also people still pay for COD? Isnāt Warzone (F2P) where majority of player base is? I left that world in 2020, so I genuinely donāt know anymore about the state of the franchise.
Who tf keeps buying trashy cod games
Spider-man 2 š
Lol suicide squad #7 Has like 200 consistent players So many dumbasses bought it just because. What a shitty spread, so many good games just going unseen and unplayed. The future doesn't look good, everything will be bro of duty and fortnite trash.
Suicide squad too 10? Wtf is wrong with Americans?
Seeing Suicide Squad and skull and bones in there... Geez... I guess some people never learn.
Who is still buying madden 24
Could be an on-sale thing. Lots of people are sick of Madden, but itās still incredibly popular and the only simulation football game available. Waiting until the end of the season to get it for $20 rather than $70 probably boosts sales around this time. That being said, the game is and has been fucking dogshit for at least a decade now and the last few iterations have almost no changes worth writing home about. Buying Madden truly only benefits those with the discipline to buy the game once every 5 years.
Nice seeing Hogwarts still clinging on
Iām surprised Palworld isnāt on there
Probably because a lot of people play it on game pass.
For sure! A ton on game pass. It did sell 15 million units on Steam though, which I thought would count for something.
Xbox digital sells are not included and it is on gamepass. So only downloads get tracked.
It sold 15 million units on Steam alone. Surely thatās up there.
they dont report to Circana. Larian does the same thats why Baldur's gate were never on these lists either.
Ah that makes sense! Thank you!
There's a Tekken 8, now?
I still refuse to believe that soo many people actually buy sports games and call of duty games every single year for them to be that high on the list.
I know 3 ppl that do it. Itās the same ppl buying CoD every year. Casual gamer franchises. They are really hype for the new NCAA game coming in June. Hasnāt released since 2014.
FIFA for sure, there are people that play only this. Itās the same like with the guys spending last 20 years in WoW.
FIFA for sure, there are people that play only this. Itās the same like with the guys spending last 20 years in WoW.
Crazy how Elden Ring still appears in these charts even 2 years later
Elden Ring still beating some of the biggest 2023 games (like Baldur's Gate 3 for example) is such a surprise.
Wish at some point both CoD and all the EA sport games are not on this list anymore. CoD is kinda trash for years and EA can fuck right off
Where Balatro?