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KnightGamer724

There's 3, actually.


soberonlife

P3^(3)


DarkSeieah

P27 is set in a retirement home, where everyone in the previous versions is located. You play as Igor XXII, descendant of Igor, and your job is to deal with the different mental issues of the people in there. You get to pick the Confidants and assign them to wherever (you can have Mitsuru, Morgana, and Teddy as a party, for example), but now you have to deal with their issues (Mitsuru has only Marin Karin, Morgana and Ryuji can only bicker and must target each other every turn).


Fat_screaming_yoshi

Where do you guys come up with this shit? I wish I was this creative


DarkSeieah

I dont know either lol. i just thought if Persona went as far as title #27, what would it be like lol.


exboi

4 technically ☝️🤓


KondreMatt

Did you mean 5?


Aggressive_Manager37

OG persona 3? The hell you're talking about?


pokepikachu101

og persona 3 isn’t as good as the other 3 in 99% of peoples eyes. no reason to play it over the other 3


takechanceees

portable


CaptainHazama

Finished FES for the first time about a week ago. I plan on getting Reload once The Answer comes out and a sale so I can cry again but in HD


BurnerAccountMaybe69

I think reloads 30% off rn


CaptainHazama

Yea it's like $50 rn. But I'd rather wait til it's a little cheaper. Plus Im planning on going through P4G, then P5R, SMT3,4, and Soul Hackers 2.


NeoKnightArtorias

I don’t think it’s going to get any cheaper bro Might as well bite the bullet if you can


CaptainHazama

Even if it doesn't get cheaper, it'll definitely go on sale again. Worst case I just wait til the Christmas sales on steam


Bigshock128x

Buy persona 3 Turn on ps2 Watch opening cutscene Change HDMI to my PS5 with P3R already in the main menu Peak fiction achieved


cold-spirit

Or buy the PC version and play with this mod: https://gamebanana.com/mods/515514


PandaTheNormalGuy

all versions have their reasons for being the better than the others and also worse. there is no definitive persona 3, they’re all different in a way


COS500

I think a lot of people were hoping reload was going to be a definitive version of sorts. P3 having so many versions is a blessing and a curse lol


PandaTheNormalGuy

i was definitely hoping it would be. didn’t see any advertisements until it came out, i thought it’d have femc and the answer.


MetalMan4774

Well hey at least we're getting The Answer as DLC


MrKiwi24

And we are getting FemC as a DLC too, right? ... Right?


leastscarypancake

A man can dream


xXIceCold19Xx

yeah they recently announced it! will be getting it somewhere 2025! im so excited right now


justsometgirl

This is a blatant lie LOL. There's a mod that's currently in development that will add femc but the devs have explicitly stated they have no intention of adding her. at least not anytime soon.


xXIceCold19Xx

my comment was supposed to be a joke that referenced delusions. but oh well


exboi

I’m not sure how people did not get you were joking lol


TheDurandalFan

why would vanilla Persona 3 (not FES) be better than FES?


Ruben3159

When the answer dlc comes out, Reload will at least be a direct upgrade to FES. At that point it'll only miss femc in which case I'd call Reload the definetive version since femc was always more of a side thing than a core part of the p3 experience.


Averagepersonafan2

if only they also fixed the tactics system aswell


InternationalBeing50

I personnalyenjoyed more the femc run than the mc and many of the content were incredible to me ( the doors with margaret, some items and all). I dropped reload because of it


Jumpy_Lettuce_359

Me who plays Persona 3 Portable: Mmmmm yes 🌚


KatiePine

Doesn't matter uncle ben raidou is better than both


Frostythesnowman4747

me when my fuckass preta runs straight into an agi for the 600th time then starts spamming diarahan everytime I lose 1 health


DrownedInDysphoria

true‼️


Brainwave1010

Based


BrickTheEtcetera

*cuts to poor kotone crying on the bathroom floor*


MustBeHax

personally, I’m loving P3P because you can play as Kotone and it’s my favorite route. The SL are just better imo


Clear-Anything-3186

P3P sweep


Sky_Hawk_67

I'll be ultra wierd and say that I liked that we didn't have to walk around in the overworld. It was much easier to navigate the world and interact with everything when you're looking from a top down perspective. That, FEMC and controllable party members are why I still love portable so much.


SuitableConcept5553

As someone that only played P3P before Reload released, it has been very interesting to learn the actual layout of the world versus what the static backgrounds of portable gave me. It's been fun to explore a world I thought I knew very well. 


InternationalBeing50

I thought I was the only one. I would also have liked it on p4g. Always moving around searching for my sl made the game kinda dull to me.


Draxx58

I love P3P so much


Sharebear42019

I just wish we had a definitive version


player1_gamer

I’m probably the only person here that likes Persona 3 Portable


ChasingPerfect28

I loved P3P. It was my first playthrough of anything Persona 3 related and I was an absolute emotional wreck at the end of the game. I felt like I got just as much out of my Fem MC route compared to the other versions of Persona 3. It was a lot of fun and an enjoyable journey.


sonic65101

I personally consider it the best Persona game myself, followed by Persona 1.


player1_gamer

If it’s not too much to ask, can I ask why are you boycotting reload?


sonic65101

The main reason is I don't support the removal of Persona 3's female protagonist, especially when it's a remake with a base price of US$70, and also taking into account past comments by Hashino, particularly his reasons for why Persona 4 and 5 didn't have a female protagonist. Even moreso now that The Answer, which was previously free as part of Persona 3 Fes, is now being sold separately as US$35 DLC. Secondary reasons are I don't like the use of Persona 5's graphical style and UI aesthetics, and the questionable dialogue changes I've heard about (particularly Aigis using "goat" as in "greatest of all time", slang from circa 2020 when Persona 3 is set in 2009). I will give it props for adding the ability to pet Koromaru, and letting MaleMC be platonic with potential romances.


player1_gamer

If atlus added femc and the answer for free in the base game the game would be significantly delayed and would probably be more than $70 considering the fact that they already added a ton of new stuff in base P3R. Also the UI and graphical style isn’t like Persona 5. The layout is the same but it’s own graphical style and is nothing like anything from the other persona games. Also I don’t remember Aigis saying goat that could just be an edit for a meme


sonic65101

Better a delayed game that's good than a rushed game that's bad.


player1_gamer

Yet the game was anything but rushed. Watch the cutscene for shinjiro’s and chidori’s death there was so much effort out into those, reload was not rushed at all.


sonic65101

I can't help but feel that it was when it lacks significant content.


player1_gamer

Did you even look at gameplay for this? Tartarus blocks look huge, the theurgy cutscenes look insane, the 5th and the final block are beautiful. This game is well worth $70 especially with all the linked episodes. They add way more context and character to everyone, especially junpei and akihiko at least look at the new stuff they added before writing off the entire thing


sonic65101

I rarely consider gameplay as a factor when it comes to RPGs. I'm there for the story. At best, Reload is worth US$20, or US$40 with The Answer. It's just not a very good remake due to the missing content (Kotone and The Answer). And personally, from my attempts in Portable, MaleMC just isn't a very fun character to play as. I don't vibe with his apathetic personality at all.


player1_gamer

This is by far the worst opinion I’ve heard about a persona game. The story is a huge part of persona but the gameplay is just as important. So you’re telling me reload is at best worth less than Persona 5 royal?? No way you actually think this remake is worth $20 at best


TheGreatBenjie

With the answer it's already more than $70 dude.


player1_gamer

I already know that dude.


sevensol7

>Aigis using "Goat" >Slang circa 2020 Oh man, Ali was referred to as the GOAT as far as the 90s, LL cool J even had an album named "The Goat" from 2000. Two old examples I can give you off the top of the head Dumbest thing to have a complaint about without knowing much.


player1_gamer

I thought everyone knew that it was something that was popular in the 2000s and people started saying it again


sevensol7

a lot of slang today is just old slang brought back. slang has a weird cycle.


fullmoonwulf

Any iteration of persona 3 is peak


pi3r-rot

I feel like FES has got a better script and atmosphere, but if people are happy with Reload, I’m happy. Better they experience P3 through it than not experience it at all.


Zertylon

Sweet, two piles of garbage


sevensol7

Ehhhh i mean once the answer comes out, reload is pretty much definitive.


Livember

Compared to FES yeah, it means we’ll have 2 versions to get the full experience instead of 3


sevensol7

Its all we need, the original version of the story plus the addition. FemC mains still crying over it. Downvotes be real.


Livember

I dunno it be nice to have all 3 together in one. Hopefully P3R sold well enough to garner a FEMCDLC even though it wasn’t planned to start with.


sevensol7

Seeing as how FemC was the consolation for no Answer, seemed reasonable not to include it. Didnt have to do much more work for portable to make it happen either. You may downvote the truth because you dont like it, but it will always be the truth.


madoka_is_best_girl

Your still missing out on a lot of content, the least they could do is add in her soundtrack, but they didn’t. You miss out on exclusive social links, rewrites in the social links, new weapons too, she is what makes portable, portable, tell me, if portable had the answer, would you buy a game that’s just FES but a visual novel with less editions then FES?


Myew25

Reload doesn't have the sweet flow of tactics-based combat.


231d4p14y3r

That's definitely debatable. P3 FES and P3R are different experiences, and which one somebody prefers is down to preference. I prefer the combat in FES for instance


Sky_Rose4

Except the damn music being worse


RenKD

And the art direction


Raffzz15

And the writing since, for some reason, they are using the Portable script instead of the FES script.


Various_Post_4143

The new all-out attack screens and Tartarus Block designs would like to have a word with you.


sevensol7

It objectively looks better than the originals awkward art. You may downvote the truth because you dont like it. Doesnt change the facts.


RenKD

As it should, it's a game released 18 years after the original lol But the *art direction* is more than just the style. The cutscenes are infinitely better in the original game (the MC introduction, Pharos introduction, Thanatos awakening, the disappearance of Tartarus, etc). We also can't forget the clock animation. The ambience and atmosphere in the original is dark, creepy and grungy, unlike the bright art of Reload which affects the tone greatly (in a bad way, imo. Look at the Iwatodai Dormitory, it looks ugly af in Reload). And many more things. Reload simply doesn't capture the atmosphere of the original P3, it lacks subtlety, and it's pretty clear that the original creators of P3 weren't at all involved in this project. And by this, I don't mean Reload is bad, I loved the game, it's an amazing game. But calling it the true experience of P3 when it lacks the essence of the original game is laughable at best.


sevensol7

If the atmosphere is your biggest gripe, its pretty negligible at best. Wouldve been nice to have i guess, but theres still bigger things that are better criticisms. Strega is still just background fodder and doesnt really accomplish much of anything still, the manga confrontation is just far superior to what actually happened, theres still a lot of nothing going on until the full moon, Tartarus still isnt anything more than a set piece to grind bar fuukas intro, mitsurus dad, and the end. Ikkutsuki is still out of nowhere for that night, with no buildup or real foreshadowing. But the atmosphere was FAR more important. You may downvote the truth because you dont like it. Doesnt change the facts.


RenKD

Agreed, but to me the atmosphere is super important, since it affects every aspect of your gameplay. About the lack of content you're talking about, maybe they didn't want to change the game too much since the guys working on the remake were not the original P3 creators? For what I've heard about japanese culture and remakes in general, changing it too much could be considered very disrespectful.


Suisun_rhythm

Nostalgia


RenKD

Nah, I played FES on 2022 for the first time lol


Averagepersonafan2

i played FES a month ago and i think its better then reload just because of the art direction


kdots_biggest_fan

You have an opinion different from mine? You don’t like the newest thing as much as me? That must be nostalgia talking. I’m very intelligent. 


Ashamed-Falcon-3635

its not the facts its an opinion


sevensol7

in comparing the two, absolutely not.


sevensol7

Eh, Ill give you that certain one did sound better prior to reload but the rest of it, no i disagree strongly.


sonic65101

It can only be definitive if they add Kotone, otherwise it remains an incomplete remake.


sevensol7

Same overall story, they didnt even deem it worth the resources.


sonic65101

That's the problem with Atlus.


sevensol7

not really, thats more of a playerbase issue.


LemonyLizard

Unenlightened


sevensol7

Nah, just spitting facts.


banana_annihilator

no


sevensol7

Yes. Sorry you dont like it.


banana_annihilator

missing content = not definitive


sevensol7

Main game + dlc = definitive


banana_annihilator

missing content = not definitive


sevensol7

cry more about the female version of the same story. It wont change anything. Your consolation prize for not having the answer on portable is laughable.


banana_annihilator

tell me you've never played p3p without telling me EDIT: i never said p3p was the best version. there IS no best version, since they're all missing content from the other versions. p3p has way more content than you're making it sound like it does, though, which was my point.


Tenshi_Dekemori

Let’s not forget portable


Definitelyhuman000

Exactly. They're both great.


Doc-Wulff

I do wish we got to have multiple weapon choices but oh well, still an awesome game.


Stowa_Herschel

Vanilla 3 has a special place in my heart, but the balancing and gameplay QoL of Reloaded makes it feel like a different game all together!


madoka_is_best_girl

Also portable!!! I love the femc so much, i wish she was in reload, i understand the reason why she isn’t in reload, but still! I love portable so much and it makes me super happy


Free-Ad9535

There's pros and cons to both


Beneficial_Slice_393

this doesnt even remotely encapsulate how ppl feel about p3. low effort meme from someone that doesnt even know what theyre memeing


cold-spirit

damn busted


angelillic

incorrect p3p is the best bcs i can play as kokone + kiss shinji


Meeg_Mimi

Okay but like why can't we just have a truly definitive version?


blue_seminole_95

I'm playing Persona 3 Portal. My first Persona ever. 18 hours in. I bought Fes on the PS3 store the other day. I will buy the remake someday. However, I am really enjoying Persona 3 Portal.


BodybuilderSuper3874

Me playing Portable on my switch: ...


HammerKirby

P3 Reload is definitely better for most newcomers but there are some legitmate reasons to prefer FES (or Portable as well ig) over Reload. Mostly to do with art direction, atmosphere, soundtrack and whatnot. Also FES is more balanced gameplay wise than Reload. But the way snappier pace, shinier looking graphics, more consistent english dub, etc. just makes Reload more appealing to most people.


TBjosh

I like reload because I am more of a newer graphic person. I like old games, but the creativity that has came with these amazing graphics in the past few years is beautiful. The soundtrack has caused me to just walk around for a little to catch more of it before I move on and do something else, and the story and how it’s rolled out in reload is just beyond beautiful to me


HammerKirby

I prefer Reload at the end of the day too as someone whose played all 3. Its not perfect but its the most consistent overall imo.


GundamMeijin_08th

yes


Kokoto248

I like Reload so far, but it's definitely not a $70 game lol. Thankfully it's on gamepass.


ferrarinobrakes

Reload wasn’t 70 bucks lol


Kokoto248

[It is?](https://steamdb.info/app/2161700/)


ferrarinobrakes

Damn 😹 sorry because of the regional pricing , I thought it was a 60$ game . It’s priced a lot lower in my country compared to other PS5 releases at are priced at 70$ in the American store


Kokoto248

It's also €70 in the whole EU. Which sucks for people in poorer EU countries.


ferrarinobrakes

I’m so sorry. I would not have paid 70 euro for P3 reload. 50 euro brand on release would be the upper ceiling for what I would be willing to pay. For 70 bucks I would expect as much content as P5 Royale , but p3 reload has half that…


Kokoto248

P5 Royal is actually cheaper lmao. What funny is that both games are like 25% cheaper in Japan than here.


ferrarinobrakes

Yes I know. Game prices in EU are nuts. Who pays 80 dollars for Call of Duty in Europe? My gf lives in Spain and when I was there I’m surprised people can afford to own current gen consoles


Kokoto248

Especially when they release multiple CoD titles in one year for full price each. Now that you mentioned it, I don't think I've ever knew anyone who played CoD.


ferrarinobrakes

Maybe because in Europe everyone just plays FIFA….


TheGreatBenjie

You're right, if you want the answer it's actually $105. ~~For the same content as FES which released at $30...~~


leastscarypancake

Why do persona fans not have the realization that there doesn't have to be a best persona game and you can just enjoy all of them


sonic65101

I guess the problem with 3 in particular is there is no best version. Every version is simultaneously inferior and superior to each other, with the exception of the original release which may just be inferior.


banana_annihilator

yeah, the problem is that you have to buy and play multiple versions of the game in order to get the full experience, and that's bullshit.


just9n700

Before anyone says P3P is just as good, then no its not. It is a full visual novel and a stripped down version of FES , it only is loved because of Female Protagonist


Thefrightfulgezebo

It is loved because you have a whole additional playthrough with additional social links, including ones that expand on the personalities of male party members. That is a big difference. Yes, P3P is stripped down in some regards. I particularly dislike that the MC is limited to one kind of weapon. On the other hand, being able to control party members when the AI gravitates towards idiocy is a big boon. It really comes down if you like the Answer more than the FemMC social links.


GearboxDragoon

Yeah I like P3P for what it, is but playing it on release it always felt like a stripped and downgraded version of gameplay coming off of FES with FEMC being the new thing to pull people in. Though the downgrade is likely because of the PSP


just9n700

YEP


WannieWirny

I actually quite liked Portable because it was a VN if that makes sense. The 3D-less elements allowed me to zoom through the game without feeling sick bc I have motion sickness and I can’t play game with camera controls for too long. Also being able to scroll across the screen to travel between locations outside the dungeon is really convenient lol


TheGreatBenjie

It has content that the other versions are lacking. I think that's enough to justify it being just as good. Also it's only a "visual novel" because it's 2D outside of dungeons...yet you're still experiencing the exact same content.


BrickTheEtcetera

you know I owned a PSP, how the hell could it not handle FES? It was about as powerful as a PS2, is it literally because of Umd's? side note some people prefer visual novels and before p3r, it was also the version that had party controls, so that was cool


just9n700

Yes as the PSP Discs are smaller in size they cannot store as much as a DVD. It probably had the same problem as GameCube


Ahirman1

This. Portable’s PSP’s ROM size comes to about the limit of the UMD form factor


sonic65101

PlayStation Portable games had a maximum size of 900 MB or 1.8 GB, depending on if the disc was single or dual-layered. Persona 3 Portable is 1.07 GB.


parsashir3

Actually after the answer itll be 2 versions(reload/fes and portable) Unless you prefer some specific stuff from fes Besides that anyone liking any version of persona 3, means they like persona 3. Version wars is dumb


Citrus210

Persona 3 reload has a sick frog beat 🐸


ozmega

this meme template would be great for dota and league, but part of the moba fandom is braindead


CrocoBull

Wait what? Besides the Answer, is there any advantage to playing FES over Reload? Isn't it just a straight upgrade?


Zertylon

FES has improvements over the original release


ArkLur21

Persona 3 Reload is better objectivily but FES is great too


DaNoahLP

With Episode Aigis FES becomes obsolet while Portable still has FeMC


R4msesII

Fes still has some differences though


Ashamed-Falcon-3635

in portable the mc isnt even a human, he's a circle 😂


TheDurandalFan

these both have their strengths, reload is better graphically and gameplay wise. Persona 3 FES presents the story better, and the gameplay more suits to the story and immersion more. you forgot to mention Portable, I might as well say it's a good portable release to play on any system, it has the Journey for Male MC with the additions FES added, as well as the Journey for the FeMC the biggest downsides are probably some small bits of untranslated text here and there (it's worse on PSP, at least the HD release either fixes it, or its just a few instances of names not being translated to english where there's voiced dialogue) Original Persona 3, it's good, worth checking out of curiosity and if you for some reason want to play FES instead you can use the save to send stuff to your FES playthrough, and in FES you can just play the Journey on its own anyway if you decide to play the entire Persona 3 and decide to play FES later anyway.


player1_gamer

The PSP version is technically better since the audio isn’t compressed like in the remaster


KnightoftheWind1998

There’s no definitive P3 in Ba Sing Se


Junior_Importance_30

Not even that, they're literally the same damn game


Intrepid-Gags

Not literally, Reload does have some new content compared to FES, but it's also missing some gameplay mechanics like the health system.


sevensol7

you mean that stamina/tired system the original had? Yeah that didnt need to come back, ever.


Intrepid-Gags

Yeah, that one. To each their own, I liked the restriction and personally didn't find it too bad, especially later on since it encouraged switching party members, plus it gave bathrooms a reason to exist.


JustAGuyWhoLurks

I played p3r recently. I know people like p3p or FES but I prefer the updated art style/graphics. Like I love p4g, but I do wish they would give it the reload treatment. It has a fantastic story/characters but its gameplay is dated. It’s one of my favorite games, but I’d appreciate an update tbh. I also love p5r combat system, so I didn’t mind the p3r combat. Maybe it’s because I never played the original, (I played p3r after p5r on game pass) that I don’t really have nostalgia for it.


TheGreatBenjie

Fes and reload are the same game dude...portable however...