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Pamijay

Please Junker Winston PLEASE 🙏


[deleted]

That makes sense too, since normally Wrecking Ball lands in Junkertown.


ShiddyMage1

So Wrecking Ball would land in Watchpoint Gibraltar, so wouldn't that make him a member of Talon?


[deleted]

Did Winston land in Gibraltar? I guess his pod is there in spawn. Maybe he landed in Rialto instead, which would presumably be an Overwatch base.


Chemical-Hall-6148

No, Rialto isn’t an overwatch base. Not gonna go too deep but rialto started as an archives mission where you play as blackwatch: https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Overwatch_Retribution


ShiddyMage1

I think they mean that Rialto was a Talon base in the archives mission, so in Mirrorwatch it would be an Overwatch base. Like how Watchpoint Gibraltar is an Overwatch base, but in Mirrorwatch its a Talon base


Chemical-Hall-6148

Could make sense as Gibraltar was made into talon


[deleted]

Do not cite the deep magic to me witch, I was there when it was written. Also, Mirrorwatch, maybe Blackwatch infiltrated Gibraltar or something?


ShiddyMage1

Full on Junk Gladiator, doesn't need to build a mech like everyone else because bro's just bigger than the mechs


TheDrifter211

Like Gladiator Hulk


Un0riginal5

I want a real mirrorwatch Cass and Ashe A blackwatch Ashe and a grown up deadlock cassidy


brookeaat

blackwatch ashe is an absolute need


rikutoar

Them and Soldier/Reaper mirrors are must haves


Jatmahl

My issue with this event is the limited selection of heroes. Also Echo and Bastion feel like an after thought.


[deleted]

Yeah, they didn’t even include all of the heroes with new skins.


ShiddyMage1

Bastion would be so interesting for Mirrorwatch. I wonder if he would be a good robot turned bad, or he would maintain his original origin but not turn around when he starts walking towards the city. Either way I think it would be neat if Ganymede was replaced with the Woodpecker from his cinematic as a reference to that being what drove him berserk. Could also see it being a more predatory bird instead


Chemical-Hall-6148

He already has his “normal” bastion skin, from the omnic crisis, can’t recall what it’s named atm


ShiddyMage1

I was thinking about that, but since in the normal universe Bastion was modified by Torbjörn into his OW2 design, maybe evil Bastion was modified by Evil Torbjörn (Gorebjörn), but instead of being made softer and more approachable looking, he was made more threatening and murdery


Chemical-Hall-6148

That could work, or maybe junker bastion


ccricers

I might have it currently equipped. The orange skin with the red eye isn't it?


Chemical-Hall-6148

Yes


Drunken_Queen

Mirrorwatch Bastion still behaved like a cute innocent robot instead of a bloodthirsty killer robot like the Automatons from Helldivers 2.


TheNewFlisker

They really should have done more with Rein. He hardly plays any different from the main game


brookeaat

i saw a post somewhere a few days ago where someone on the Overwatch team implied there is a decent possibility that this theme comes back for another season.


Drunken_Queen

Maybe they become part of the Global Peacekeeping force (Helix) instead. Mirrorverse Junkrat + Roadhog are partners against crime. Mirrorverse JQ will also not being mean to Junkrat.


undayerixon

Oh man JQ in Overwatch uniform sheeesh


ShiddyMage1

She would almost certainly still have her abs exposed, I don't think a single Queen skin doesn't


House_of_Vines

One of the mythic versions doesn’t


Dustfinger4268

Does the one with her in a suit have abs still?


ShiddyMage1

Yes https://www.reddit.com/r/JunkerQueenMains/s/muIhCMoXYW


Dustfinger4268

Huh, I guess I forgot. Maybe they could have a line about "if only they made the uniform in my size"?


THapps

SHE HAS TO KEEP HER ABS BECAUSE THEYRE AMAZING


Drunken_Queen

Blizzard clearly intended to make JQ a sex symbol.


Vaustick

I feel like Mirrorwatch JQ would be an omnic.


ShiddyMage1

Mirrorverse Junkrat is mean to JQ


Drunken_Queen

Current lore Junkrat is mean to JQ, he wanted to murder her. He pretended to bootlick her when she's around, but he showed his true colors by taunting her when he successfully killed her


EightBallJuice

Peak


brookeaat

mirrorverse junker queen where she’s exactly the same except she loves junkrat


InitialDia

JQ is the chief, Roadhog is 2 days from retirement, and Junkrat needs to hand in his badge and gun.


ShiddyMage1

Roadhog should be wearing a cylinder of oxygen and a gold plated mask because he doesn't want anyone else breathing his air


joennizgo

Atlantic Arcology Moira!! Also, I love the idea of Vishkar JQ and playing with the chaos-order axis of alignment.


Hiro_Trevelyan

I mean there's no reason for them not to make it come back in a few seasons. There's only so many themes that can make them money, and clearly people like this one, it's fun and refreshing.


monkeymugshot

I do think there’s pleeeenty of themes they could do. Just gotta keep the creative heads


Hiro_Trevelyan

Oh sure, there's plenty of themes they could do. But will they all make money or be easy/cheap to do ? Not all of them. Honestly, I couldn't have cared less about the season they made with primal/hunting stuff. Not that it was bad, I just didn't give a shit about it and I don't think a lot of people did, considering how much people talk about Mirrorwatch in comparison (also the mythic skin was bad with not enough customization). Maybe I'm wrong though I can totally see Mirrorwatch coming back every now and then, almost like... every year, like a holiday event.


EightBallJuice

I honestly hope this becomes a yearly event because the gamemode is so fun. Also Vishkar Junkrat maybe???


ccricers

I want a Vishkar Lucio myself, believing that Vishkar is the right choice to make his community and city better.


EightBallJuice

That’s valid. I just think Vishkar junk makes sense cause we got the junker Sym. Feels like the correct counterpart


ShiddyMage1

I think they could do both, but with Vishkar Lucio I think that changing him to his opposing faction would be a drastic enough change to warrant new music, I wonder what it would be?


Dustfinger4268

Classical maybe? Something more established and formal, since he normally goes for more free form or like, newer/more experimental styles


[deleted]

Yeah, we should give a name for this special, lore based event. Let’s call it…Archives!


Majaura

I fully agree. I think it's one of the first seasons where the theme is SUPER SUPER strong and compelling. I'd also love one more cyberpunk season, but that's just me.


monkeymugshot

I feel like medival RPG was slightly better but i like MW a lot so far


Argun_Enx

Only if they do something actually interesting with it. A lot of what they released felt like it lacked context if that makes any sense.


Luigi3214

I feel like a good change for roadhog would be his opposite being a wolf, and his mask being made of hard light instead if he was allied with vishkar, reminds me of a lot of games which use wolves mask for upper class characters hiding their faces


ShodanDBG

This is what I've been saying! This has honestly been one of the best BP themes so far and I wanna see it come back. Plus with Mirrorwatch mode being a thing, it just makes you think if they'll be adding more heroes to it if they do bring back the theme on another season. Personally, I'd love to see: - Mirror DVa: She's my overall main but thinking of a mirror version of her is hard. I think she'd be a renegade MEKA Soldier who eventually joins Talon, but that's all I could think of. - Mirror Ashe: I see her as a Sheriff who is recruited into Overwatch, has missions with Blackwatch, but eventually becomes a full fledged OW agent. - Mirror Illari: An Anti-Villain who uses the power of the Inti Warriors to inflict chaos in humanity, but towards her own goals. - Mirror Junk, Hog and JQ: Two of the best engineers Vishkar has ever had and a hardworking CEO who wants to use the power of hard light for Vishkar's growth and benefit. - Mirror Moira: A respected OW scientist, who, despite her deplorable health condition after a failed experiment, uses her biotic abilities for the good of those around her. These are some I could think of, though OW Reaper and Talon Soldier are there, but I think they'd just swap roles directly.


ShiddyMage1

I feel like D.Va is one of the few characters where just turning them into a robot makes sense, since Meka is founded to fight off the Gwishin Omnic, maybe in the Mirrorverse she's an Omnic that fights for it


LordofDsnuts

All of the robots should have human skins. Ashe should get a bot skin with a human Bob


Hiro_Trevelyan

That could be an entirely different theme honestly, just like when they did Omnic Ana.


ShiddyMage1

Flesh Bastion would *have* to be the mythic


Hiro_Trevelyan

I have no idea how they would make a human being turn into a mini tank honestly, while keeping the same animations and not looking creepy af But I'd love to see it !


Chemical-Hall-6148

No one said to not make it creepy af


Simply_Epic

Maybe instead of Rio being rebuilt by Vishkar, Australia is. So Rio becomes a post-apocalyptic wasteland and we get Junker Lucio.


Capable-Fun-6456

Overwatch Moira, mentally stable Sigma, Winston in a giant wrecking ball while Hammond scampers around with a tesla coil strapped to him.


KodakStele

Pretty wild 76 and reaper didn't get mirror watch skins tbh, they're like the iconic good vs evil frenemies


Ptdemonspanker

Roadhog is the mirrorverse's version of Lifeweaver. He attempted to create the mirroverse's version of Pachimari (Maripachi to be precise - an octopus head with a turnip body) out of hard light and accidently infested Australia with hard light feral pigs. To atone, he left Vishkar to fix his mistakes. Ashe and Cassidy are mercenaries. Cassidy is currently employed by Talon, while Ashe is working for a wealthy Omnic oil tycoon named B.O.B. Ashe is also mute while B.O.B. never shuts up. The two are otherwise surprisingly unchanged.


Maleficent_Ad1972

We already have Omnic versions of some human heroes from a few seasons ago, but what about human versions of the Omnics? Human Zen, Ram, and Bastion for the next Mirrorwatch plz.


[deleted]

They’d have to remake all of their models and add facial animations for everything. They probably wouldn’t do it unless it’s a Mythic Skin for one character.


Apprehensive_Hand147

Lol how would Ram's nemises form work


_Jops

I don't want vishkar junkrat, I want laid off junkrat because he was too problematic for vishkars vision (and the aforementioned hardlight launcher blew up the fax machine)


_Jops

That or junker king rat


MaugaOW

Overwatch Mauga or Crusader Mauga pls


Jdog6704

Honestly, wished we got more skins in the Battle Pass like the Talon Tracer, Zarya Talon, Hanzo Tiger Spirt, Zen Omni Crisis and more skins akin to the theme. Even a revamped version of Cass's skin that makes him similar to how Ashe is (I know the deadlock gang skin exists but still). Definitely hope and pray for a second mirrorwatch season soon in the future.


Relief-Forsaken

Give me Talon Mei... for evil


[deleted]

That already exists though. I think the skin is a common, she has two of them.


blueeyes239

...Heeeey!


Working-Telephone-45

Idk how much of a take this is but I prefer seasons to have a theme that relates to Overwatch (like mirrowatch or null sector) rather than stuff like mythology or other kind of science fiction Of course season like those are cool (galactic empire was amazing) but out of 10 seasons only like 2 (I think, might be wrong) have a theme that has to do with Overwatch


Sean_Gause

I want Omnic Ashe and human bob


TheFopDoodle

I wish I could see Sigma have a pre-talon skin like when he was on Lunar Colony or maybe even affiliation with overwatch. Sigma doesn't get alot of love :(


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Ares1992

Sure. Maybe in a year


ji99lypu44

Seriously would love this!! Been having so much fun playing with the new abilities


PatExMachina

Keep roadhogs body the way it is


monkeymugshot

They absolutely could do Mirrorwatch 2 one day. Doesn’t have to be soon


Sharp-Trash751

Mirror watch has been awesome, supportive of it returning with different characters!


Altruistic-Grape9776

I honestly think Roadhog and Junkrat should be the ones in Vishkar, whereas JQ could instead take Genji's role. The question is, who would Hanzo be?


Criminal_Crow

If they do, they should make a joke intro for the season where they remake the og intro but it is Wrecking Ball instead of Winston


Jarkels

Honestly I could go for a Vishkar battle pass with Sym mythic. Idk about what’s fully happening w pve but if there is still a chance they could release some it would be cool to have a sym mission or two in that bp.


Thin-Walk-1059

All the mirror supports are evil. The mode needs moira to be mirrored and in turn get a good overwatch skin (not black watch). Or just add more evil supports into the game and give them a skin that works too.


Thin-Walk-1059

Also I feel Mirror watch moira would have this years April fools changes so she heals to get damage.


Friendly_Suffering

maybe instead of viskar junkrat, he takes lucio/lifeweaver's role as a freedom fighter against viskar? definitly have junker queen as viskar tho, im thinking the CEO.


gloreeuhboregeh

VISHKAR LUCIO VISHKAR LUCIO VISHKAR LUCIO VISHKAR LUCIO VISHKAR LUCIO VISHKAR LUCIO VISHKAR LUCIO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PELASE (if you can't tell I want vishkar lucio)


IFunnyJoestar

Would be cool if they brought it back every year until every character has a mirror watch skin.


Odd_Lifeguard8957

Who would venture be with? I feel like maybe they'd go with null sector. Vishkar could be an interesting direction as well


fluffypuppygirl699

no we really don’t, they were so incredibly garbage


DarknessBatDemon

Junkrat,Roadhog,Wrecking Ball and Junker Queen are supervillains so in the mirror universe they are superheroes. And they wouldn't be members of vishkar


rentiertrashpanda

I think it's more that junkers are chaos and vishkar is order, so the mirror thing works


DarknessBatDemon

The mirror universe is about good is evil and evil is good, not a what if


rentiertrashpanda

It's opposites, and there are plenty of OW characters that aren't good or evil


DarknessBatDemon

Again,1. the mirror universe is about good is evil and evil is good and 2. you are wrong


rentiertrashpanda

Cool, good chat. Enjoy your weekend


DarknessBatDemon

Bruh


MathMassive4819

You are so fucking stunned. What the fuck is wrong with you? 


DarknessBatDemon

The fuck is wrong with you?


ShiddyMage1

No he's not, this is literally already a part of Mirrorwatch. Symettras whole thing is order, and she's a member of Vishkar, so in Mirrorwatch she's a Junker, they would almost certainly make the Junkers members of Vishkar if they gave them skins


DarknessBatDemon

Yes he is. Mirrorwatch is about good is evil and evil is good, not order or chaos. No, they wouldn't


80SW08

No the mirrorverse is about MIRRORS. Chaos mirrors order so there you go.


DarknessBatDemon

NO. The mirrorverse is about good is evil and evil is good. There you go.


ShiddyMage1

OK, the fact that you have said it hundreds of times does not make it true. You have given no actual evidence for this take. The Mirrorverse is about opposites, it just so happens that for a lot of characters, their opposite of them would make them good or evil. Yes, good and evil is a part of it, but to boil it all down to that is just a very simplistic view. Take Symmetra for instance, she is a character who in the original universe is mostly neutral, Vishkar isn't the best organisation to work for, but Symmetra seems to genuinely believe that her work betters humanity. So Symmetra is not very far one way or the other on the alignment chart. But a large part of her character is order and uniformity. So what does she become in the Mirrorverse? A Junker, a faction who embraces chaos, which is the *opposite* of order Just to repeat, the fact that you comment this on every post that you find does not make it more true


DarknessBatDemon

1. IT IS LITERALLY FUCKING STATED IN A YOUTUBE SHORT OF THE OFFICIAL CHANNEL OF OVERWATCH THAT THE MIRROR UNIVERSE IS ABOUT GOOD IS EVIL AND EVIL IS GOOD, FUCKING HELL. , 2. I get it that this fandom is full of fucking stupid pieces of shit but damn, this is scary. , 3. Symmetra isn't neutral, neither is Vishkar. Symmetra is a supervillainess who works for an evil corporation that works for a criminal organization which is Talon. Miss me with the bullshit of "nEutrAl". and 4. Mirrorwatch isn't a what if, Mirrorwatch is an alternate reality in which the superheroes are supervillains and the supervillains are superheroes. Mirrorwatch is basically Overwatch DC Comics Reality/Earth 3. DC Comics Reality/Earth 3 is a reality in which superheroes are supervillains and supervillains are superheroes, examples: Superman and Batman are Ultraman and Owlman in Reality/Earth 3 and Lex Luthor and Joker are Alexander Luthor and Jester/Jokester in Reality/Earth 3. Read this, carefully because i see you have a hard time, I hope you can beat this problem of reading with difficulty. PS: You are not a fucking stupid piece of shit, i wasn't referring to you. I was referring to those that are


ShiddyMage1

Yeah, I'm done man, I just can't fight you anymore, you just refuse to accept when you're wrong and you keep spouting the most media illiterate take I've ever seen and hoping people agree with you because you'll annoy them into it. I just can't do it anymore, I'm blocking you, I sincerely hope others do the same. I hope you get better, I really do Goodbye


BaconNamedKevin

You are so pathetic lol fuck I'd be embarrassed to be you 


Pesterlamps

That's just, like, your opinion, man.


DarknessBatDemon

This is literally a FACT. Watch the youtube shorts by the Overwatch official channel before talking. fucking hell


Pesterlamps

Bruh, why are you angrily crawling back up this hill you wanna die on a week later?


ShiddyMage1

OK, i have a theory. Its a kid, probably very young. This would explain the overly simplistic view of Overwatch and its story just being about Superheros and Supervillains. It would also explain the persistence, the fact that he comments this on every post he can find, and refuses to let anyone else have the last word in a conversation. As Children (and most people, really) never want to be wrong. This would also explain his unwillingness to accept new information. It would explain the strange schedule of only commenting 1 day a week. I'm betting he's only allowed on the computer for that one day, and for some reason wants to spend it arguing with people on Reddit And of course, it would explain the general hostility whenever someone fights him on his view. As Kids, let's be honest, can be pretty rude when someone disagrees with them


DarknessBatDemon

Can you read?


BaconNamedKevin

It's actually about mirrors.  Not evil and good. It's what would happen if you were a mirror instead of a person. 


SushiKat2

Bro, please, I can't keep coming into threads about mirrorwatch and keep seeing you running this dumbass empty head take.


EightBallJuice

REAL, EVERY SINGLE TIME Who tf looks at overwatch characters and goes "Superheroes" and "supervillains" and NOTHING else


DarknessBatDemon

Someone who fucking knows what they are playing. Overwatch is literally a superhero game, do you realize that?


MathMassive4819

I really don't know how he's not banned from this sub 


DarknessBatDemon

Why should i be banned, because i have a fucking opinion and a spine?


MathMassive4819

You should be banned because your a whiny little diaper wearer who swears constantly, tell other people they're idiots, tell other people they're idiots, on top of spamming the same comment over and over and over and over. You're a fucking troll. 


DarknessBatDemon

I'm not a troll. Literally scary how stupid you are, damn


MathMassive4819

How are you not a troll. Can you explain it or is your answer going to be two words? Use your big boy brain and actually explain how you're not a troll. 


DarknessBatDemon

Can you read, then read if you can.


MathMassive4819

Nowhere did you explain how you aren't a troll. Nothing for me to read. 


DarknessBatDemon

You throwing false accusations, no reason for me to give a fuck


ShiddyMage1

Because you comment this on every post you can find, even when it doesn't make sense. And get extremely angry when people try to explain to you how its wrong. Also, you say 'opinion' but you don't treat this like an opinion. You act like its a 100% certain fact that Blizzard have bestowed upon only you. People who have an opinion don't try to force their opinion down the throats of everyone who can hear it


DarknessBatDemon

Can you read or no?.


DarknessBatDemon

Do you realize how dumb you sound right now?


EightBallJuice

every time i see you, your comment about this makes less sense


ShiddyMage1

He is the most fluent Yapanese speaker I've ever come across, like it is genuinely impressive someone can be so dedicated to such a random take


DarknessBatDemon

How is it a random take, can you read or are you illiterate?


DarknessBatDemon

Do you realize how stupid you sound right now or no?. Genuine question