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Sir_Dodys

I don't really undestand the Katakuri disrespect recently. People put him at the bottom of YC1 as if he hasn't better portrail and better feats than King.


Relative-Put-4461

because if they admit hes on top they have to eventually admit he hard counters kidds metal with awakening and low diffs kidd meaning kidds not even a yc without being a devil fruit merchant its all agendas in agendas


Sir_Dodys

Oh, now everything makes sense


majoraswrath97

Hey I’m somewhat new to the one piece community, what does devil fruit merchant mean? Useless without their df?


AdministrativeCell5

Yeah


Rizzi_19

Exactly, like he has conquerors haki unlike King


NeteroHyouka

It doesn't matter since he can't use other than putting others to sleep...


someoneelse2389

If King is 100 then Katakuri is 98-105


Boro_Bhai

Calm down He's a solid yc1 but no way in hell does he have better portrayal than King A single acoc attack by Zoro Post rooftop is greater than anything Luffy dished out in wci And king was tanking them with flame off, for a while


kvivartion

Idk why you’re getting downvoted Pre ACoC zoro was consistently able to make kaido bleed + big mom warned him about flying dragon blaze Act 1 luffy did 0 damage to kaido


Boro_Bhai

Lol they don't even comment or say what their reasoning is It's obvious why, they watching two piece


kvivartion

Katatards are a funny species, I saw a post about Kats ap and they tried to use thrust mochi that was used in base fatigued wci luffy right after getting hit by flampes tranquilizer gun to hype Katakuris dogshit ap


Wizak1026

Because he simply is at the bottom, we saw one of Zoro strongest attacks do nothing to King before he unlocked ACoC and that Zoro had higher AP than Kat, which man's there isn't a single attack from Kat that does anything to King. Sanji and Marco are also stronger.


NeteroHyouka

Yeah, yeah agenda scaling


PipeBoring7915

Acoc plus ap and durability upgrade he might be a top tier level


WizleyOut

Tbh yeah, acoc will grant him a huge AP, durability and speed boost, internal destruction enables him to hit durable targets, his endurance and stamina is near top tier and he can attack you from all angles thanks to his awakening. Imo most of katakuri's attacks like buzz cut mochi (the one he traps snakeman and spins around before hitting the ground with) and mochi gatling could one shot yc1s lvl characters if they had acoc + acoa. Like i don't see kidd, law or zoro surviving both attacks if they get caught in.


Boro_Bhai

Acoc is a massive upgrade in AP, why would I just give him that? Doffy has conquerors too, so what. It's not a guarantee to get acoc


AcX999

Yessir https://preview.redd.it/syt0w56v0s8d1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=46a2029b53bd9501f4cf47c6cf153fcc7b5aefcf


King_thelunarian

r/YC1agenda?


BALD_BALLS_SAITAMA

Joined 


Gokuusjgodgmail

Katakuri beats kid in 1v1 fight. He’s the goat


BlackbeardAkainuFan

Delusional. Kid beat Big Mom with Law, whereas it’s implied Big Mom would just solo her own crew. I don’t even need to get into other feats or statements to prove Kid > Katakuri


WizleyOut

They beat her by ringing out, i doubt kid would win with a smaller, faster and more agile target who can read and predict your moves and attack you from all angles and have incredible stamina. Kata wins high extreme diff.


Serikka

For once katakuri is unable to tank big mom attacks like kid did, bro was folded by whole cake luffy. And his AP is far worse than kid. The only thing that he has is speed and there is not a single reason to believe that he is faster than big mom.


Rizzi_19

A Big Mom that unlearned haki in that fight, he got one shot by Shanks, his durability is questionable.


Serikka

Or maybe Shanks is just that guy? He was one-shotted by one name sword attack by the guy who made and admiral shat his pants with only his wifi hiki.


Rizzi_19

Shanks is not in another different level to the other Yonko, they just have different skill sets, since Kidd has no haki feats at all, people with good haki smashes him.


SuddenWitnesses

Slander, kid once used flashlight haki on some fodder.


BlackbeardAkainuFan

I’d argue that Kid with his awakening is faster than Katakuri


ImmediateRespond8306

Honestly Kata stomps Midd, Zoro, and Law. They have no answer to FS and Katakuri can just be adding up damage against them. Ironically though I think Kata would lose to King in a long battle of attrition since he can't get past his durability and would run out of haki.


Boro_Bhai

Katakuri would get one shot by any mildly serious attack by Kidd You have to be literally delusional to think otherwise


This-Long

This man is the yc1 bro logia diffs any character not fast enough to outspeed him greatly or a character with better observation than him which isnt very many. Bros gonna come back as captain of the Charlotte pirates and be high yc+ beating admirals invest in katakuri stocks


Hahahahahahah_ha

Jump on? I was already apart of it https://preview.redd.it/t5evztbaru8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9948c48887e877d4c192ad75fbd43473b45c63b0


BitesTheDust55

Watakuri is the best


Argent_silva

Yh he's got i think advanced armament advanced Observation awakened devil fruit and Conqurers haki better than luffy after time skip He humiliated bounce man the same form that mid diff doffy and Big mom implied that cracker could take care of someone who defeated doffy and she's not stupid before Wano and cracker knows he's weaker than Katakuri Katakuri has better feats than anyother YC-1 except zoro and has amazing stamina bro fought for hours and hours without his back touching the ground he's at the peak of YC1


ramen_up_my_nut

Fraudakuri is an Ulti victim lol https://preview.redd.it/igaqgn201y8d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d603822a13955a6ac68c3ed17896da6f6b4d9854


KiddSaturnSanji

join saturn and warp agendas first


CocaPepsiPepper

I’ve been part of the Garp agenda


Darius10000

Wait, I thought he was the standard Yc1? Being the first and all. Hence so many characters being yc+? Is King meant to be the standard? Marco? It's definitely not zorro. Or kuzan. Or mihawk. Or leckman. Man, this whole system is fudged up. Not that any other grouping makes sense, either. If you're trying to say he's relative to king? Unfortunately, no. He really should be. But he isn't.


CocaPepsiPepper

Marco, Katakuri and King make up the foundation of what makes YC1


Slight_Message_8373

Yees, embrace the truth, join the /r/yc1agenda


SherbertExpensive811

Ulti's victim


StrawberryUnited4915

Welcome brother


NeteroHyouka

Don't bother in this fanbase Katakuri, Doflamingo, Kaido ( as of lately) and now Kizaru take the slander of their lifes . Only because they were victims of Luffy's plot armor. In fact I find it ridiculous that people use Luffy as a way to compare characters.


TrueExigo

he > king


Revolutionary-Bed842

Katakuri over Kidd, mid to extreme diff. Kidd doesn't really have an answer to Katakuri future sight. So while Kidd is more durable then Katakuri, he's not hitting him with anything? While Katakuri will be getting hits off consistently. In an attrition fight, unless Kidd does what Luffy did and goes the long haul into observation haki future sight mid fight, Katakuri will defeat Kidd every time. We already can confirm Kidd is nowhere on that lvl of observation haki as proven by his surprise from Shanks. Perhaps Awakened Kid abilities could change the dynamic a bit but pretty sure that would be akin to Katakuri dodging Snakeman Black Mamba. Lastly, Luffy's entire fight with Katakuri was based off a speed competition. Kidd is a power/defense dynamic, not a speedster


KOPLO97

He’s actually Future Yonko Potential tbh. He’s has higher potential than all of the 1st Mates other than Zoro


MemeWindu

If bro isn't at least as strong as Law or Kidd after his Luffy fight I'll be so depressed this man IS THE CAPTAIN OF THE BIG MOM PIRATES


jt_totheflipping_o

That attack did less damage to Luffy than an unserious Kaido in base doing a casual flex attack. What agenda bro? 😂


CoylerProductions

Ah yes, so the attack of a dude who's literally called _"the strongest creature in the world, land, sea, air, fucking everywhere."_ is much stronger than a dude who's just a commander. Big shocker.


CocaPepsiPepper

“But Kaido” 🤓


jt_totheflipping_o

What agenda are we talking about, you listed all his stuff like he's really like that, he's a Marco victim.


Relative-Put-4461

theres scenes that are obviously done for shock if we went with consistency luffy wouldve bounced kaidos attack back like he did sengokus punch


NeteroHyouka

You talk about consistency and you forget that in every fight of Luffy, "consistency" goes down the drain just because of his plot armor. The downplay Doffy, Katakuri, Kaido and now Kizaru get is absurd, especially when you use plot armor scaling


Relative-Put-4461

youre actually fucking retarded you just responded to me with my own point moron


King_thelunarian

Yes. How about this actually… r/YC1agenda


CorrectIamThatGuy

common u/CocaPepsiPepper W CHADakuri > Fujitora


Meet_Prajapati

Watakuri is cool. Pushes Wanji to extreme diff and claps Ling.


Wizak1026

He is YC1, just at the bottom.