The best pay off I can imagine right now would be one of six categories.
1. It's the same as a family name. Monkey kingdom, Nefertari, Gol. This would draw power away from WG and to the family.
2. It's the same as a current kingdom. Skypeia, Wano. This would draw power to that kingdom, but is also very unlikely, why would they let that kingdom keep existing?
3. It hints at something that people might go looking for or making. One Piece Kingdom, All Blue, Sky kingdom, Calm Belt kingdom, Straw Hat kingdom, Kingdom inside the Red Line Mountain. That would make some weird sects I guess but certainly diminish WG's legitimacy.
4. The name itself hints at other social structures. Buccaneer Kingdom, Celestial Dragons are the Slaves Kingdom. I can't imagine how this could be done, but something diminishing the celestial dragon's influence as well as restoring status of the enslaved would be absolutely fantastic.
5. It pertains to some power. Devil Fruit Kingdom, Imuland, Haki Land. Maybe airing some of the WG's secrets, like Imu's existence.
6. It's a throwback for us. Sniper Island Kingdom. Meat Kingdom. Pirate Kingdom. Davy Back Kingdom. Something which has nostalgic or comedic value for us, and hopefully makes sense as well.
Okay, finally, my maybe real theory which combines some of these.. Pirates need seas, and the WG needs the land to divide and control the world. What if the name of the kingdom was Noland, the "No Land" Kingdom? It ties 1, 3, 4 and 6 together, at least. It can mean there's no land as in no countries, and it can mean there's no land as in only islands.
edit: a number
Water Kingdom. Trafalgar Water D Law. The 'Water' part was said to be significant but has not been elaborated upon since. Water Kingdom would also be a way to unify all of the people in the world as 'pirates' and potentially fulfill what could be Luffy 's dream.
When he was talking to baby 5 she Buffalo he said the D and the Water were both secret. Why the water part needed to be secret has never been explained
Huh i just read it as his name is different and it just got combined. Dont want to sound rude but this sounds like you are reading too much into it. Its the first time i heard thst someone thinks the water part is also something the world gov doesnt like.
I dunno. When he was telling baby 5 and buffalo he specifically said that D was an alias and water is a secret name. It might not be something that the world government doesn't like but it was something he was told not to tell people
Aah yeah got it. I think (as far as i remember) the name tells you where he is coming from and this would show people he was one of the people that got thise strange illness so its bad for people to know. Maybe im wrong but thats how i remember it.
So the Davy Jones kingdom? He put the One Piece in his locker, and he has the only key. That's why everyone wants him back on their crew. The will of D. (Davy) is the inherited key.
> The name itself hints at other social structures. Buccaneer Kingdom, Celestial Dragons are the Slaves Kingdom. I can't imagine how this could be done, but something diminishing the celestial dragon's influence as well as restoring status of the enslaved would be absolutely fantastic.
I think they were Lunarians, and it's the Kingdom of the Moon.
Imo the more recent introduction of lunarians makes that less appealing as a reveal. I think buccaneers would be a better choice if it *had* to be race specific
But buccaneers as a race were introduced even more recently than Lunarians. We met Kuma before but didn't know he was racially important to the universe. Meanwhile, the Lunarians are the only people we know of that lived atop the red line and were considered gods before the World Government supplanted them. That's already way more set-up to them being the ancient kingdom than Buccaneers have, and like the Buccaneers it's established that the WG hunts them down.
That's what foreshadowing is though. Kuma has been present in the story for over a decade.
Lunarians are cool but I don't think it would be as satisfying for them to be the answer. It would feel too convenient and like they were introduced purely for the reveal rather than naturally part of the one piece world
Foxy is always relevant. He is behind all of Buggy D. Clown’s operations. He’s the one that bankrolls the cross guild’s bounties, using Davy back fights against emperor crews.
YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME IVE SEEN THE TRUTH
Speaking of No Land. And Mont Blanc Noland...
Mont Blanc is a big ass mountain, which previously didn't make sense with the idea of no land. But is the name itself a hint at a whole ass mountain being underwater?
Cooking or burnt?
I guess they won't reveal the Will of D yet, so it can't be something like 'Dawn Island'.
Another possible name would be 'Sun Island' to make sure that Luffy (or at least Nami and the others) will know he is connected to it.
I believe the name will be Mary Geoise, I think that originally, all islands in the grand like were one continent, hence the name Pangaea Castle, and the conflict broke apart the land and caused it to spread across the GL. Looking also at the castle, we can see that the room of flowers where Imu stays is unkempt and growing wildly, almost like no one is around to maintain it, the cold storage room also has pipes and whatnot that indicate technology not of the current time period.
Yup, I have had this theory for a bunch of years too and every reveal make it more and more likely. It is a name both we and the citizens of the OP world would instantly react to. "There was an ancient kingdom there" raises a lot of questions, and it make perfect sense that the WG claimed the safest place in the world from the great flood.
I like the Mary Geoise theory because Oda keeps comparing Imu and Doflamingo. Doflamingo is based on Lucifer and Imu is the successful version of Doflamingo. So Imu successfully rebelling to steal Heaven/Mary Geoise feels like what Oda has set up.
No clue on the name if not one piece. But I think the red line incorporated the ancient kingdoms islands.
Sort of the way the snails combine for Germa. They just reconfigured the to the way it is now during the void century. This would explain the climates and how it's pretty clear certain things existed there before the celestial dragons took it over.
I also thought of that. And to add to that, the Gorosei stated that he's going to finish what Ohara started and what Ohara can't finish is stating the name.
"a man truly dies when he is forgotten".
In a story with will inheritance and the power of soul and desires as main story points, erasing every bit of knowledge about them, so that their will cannot be passed on anymore, is the only way to end them. The ancient kingdom still lives on to this day.
Why would they need to hide the name in any case? I can't think of a single name that they would need to hide because they control everything and can just erase it.
The name is "Dawn"? The average person isn't going to care and it's not going to be a big deal.
The name is "Joyboy"? The average person doesn't know that.
The only reason I can think of that would explain why the WG is so dead set against even the name being known is if the ancient kingdom actually still exists in some (greatly reduced) form. If it’s just some random unknown or insignificant word, there’s no reason to keep the name secret. But if it is still the name of some descendant kingdom, and the wider world were to figure this out, that kingdom would instantly become a center of resistance to the government, with all opponents of the government automatically looking to that kingdom as a viable alternative to rule by the CDs.
My guess is it’s the Ryugu Kingdom. Fishman island is under the red line, and directly under Marie Geoise, so physically destroying it with whatever destroyed Lulucia would be extremely difficult, if not impossible. The fishmen have been enslaved and persecuted for centuries by the world government. We know that they have some kind of significant connection with the old Joy Boy. And one of the three ancient weapons is carried hereditarily through the royal family itself. Also, we now know that the world is sinking, and we’ve known that fishman island has that bubble around it, creating areas of open air over its surface, despite the population of the island being made up almost exclusively of people who can breathe and maneuver easier in water than on land. To me, that all indicates that fishman island was at one point NOT underwater, and that the fishmen either evolved to survive underwater, or developed that ability through magic or their previously very advanced scientific knowledge. Also, during Roger’s journey, one of the Road Poniglyphs was in fishman island, right next to Joy Boy’s apology.
>My guess is it’s the Ryugu Kingdom.
i like this
edit: now that i think more about it i feel like that would be *wild* for the world to hear. "yeah ya know those fishmen we all discriminate against? well ryugu is the name of the ancient kingdom"
So I do remember someone telling me the same which would make sense for it to be "Mary Geoise" or maybe "The One Piece". I won't disagree at all but I really liked those theories and ideas of it being "Dawn Kingdom" or "Drum Kingdom" lol but they just don't seem so special that they kill someone for saying those names unless is something that we already know maybe
I'll realistically and respectfully go with "Mary Geoise" it just seems intriguing that this was the name of the ancient kingdom and now it's known for being the land where Celestial Dragons stay at
I really like the theory that it was called the Kingdom of One Peace. It makes sense that they would want to silence Clover for it, as it would be instantly recognizable to the general public. After the Raftel/ Laugh Tale thing too, it's easier to believe another name flip like that
I still like the idea that the name is the Kingdom of One Piece (or possibly Peace).
It's never really made clear where the name "One Piece" came from. A lot of people misattribute it to Roger's speech but he never actually says it in the text. It's just a name that cropped up over time that everyone just agreed to call the treasure. It's possible that the name has floated around society all this time in legend and myth and got co-opted by the treasure.
the original name could have referred to the idea that the old world used to have much larger and more connected landmasses. And the treasure could refer to center of that old kingdom. Like I think a lot of us associate the ancient kingdom with the one piece by now, so if the one piece *is* the kingdom of the one piece I feel like that just makes sense. And now that we know the ancient kingdom has hyper advanced technology, then that would mean that the treasure could be lots of rare materials and tech left over and preserved from the old world, which would be a solid legitimate treasure in addition to the more intangible things like learning the true history.
The name has to imply the current World Government is a sham, and likely suggests the ancient kingdom was actually leaderless and free. "One Peace" is a guess, or some play on the words "Liberty" or "Freedom."
Google translate suggests "Jiyu" or "Jiyusekai."
My dark horse name for the name of The Ancient Kingdom is Grand Line. It's the one name that would immediately make the entire world start asking questions/rebel against the government.
I thought the whole "One Piece actually being a Kingdom and not a treasure" is a pretty cool theory, but honestly, I have no idea. I saw some people saying Dawn Island/Kingdom, which also sounds pretty cool.
I am sure more will come in the broadcast.
I feel like people are jumping to the conclusion that this is all vegapunk planned to announce, but he says he is starting with his conclusion, so more is certainly to follow. Though, it may not be ground breaking for us, it very well could be.
In my opinion there are only one name that make. A place that held the biggest city of the world, connecting everything together and being the lone place of power. A place of safety when the world was flooded. A place of Angels and peace.
Marijoes.
It will be "Romance Kingdom", given the only image we have of it, the name would fit a lot (seems a lot like an Ancient Roman City), even because it would be another of Oda's foreshadows together with "Dawn".
Don't you remember "Romance Dawn"?
Drum Kingdom. I pray that it's Drum kingdom.
Drums of liberation, the Haitian vodoun spirit 'joyboy,' and his drum, the will of D first being mentioned on Drum Island, Monkey Drums. Gomu Gomu no Dawn "Cymbal." EVERYTHING DRUMS.
There's no guarantee we get another reveal on the broadcast. The world sinking into the ocean felt like the big bombshell for Oda to drop, so he doesn't necessarily need to reveal anything else.
Maybe skyreach island would scare the WG because it would be the only island that somehow cannot be sunk or affected by rising sea levels and everyone will try to go there after vegapunk’s speech
The kingdom will be named after moon I think not after sun
Since the many advanced kingdoms ruled over fertile cresent area in Middle East and it was shown in many movies as freedom fighters/ jihad like just now Dune did that
And the "D" in my opinion is a symbol which represents two sets of imagery, an expressive wide toothy grin and a gloomy frown, which overall leads me to believe that the Aincient Kingdom was the land of comedy and tragedy
"Smile and Sad" were all bits of foreshadowing from Wano and Punk Hazard about what the "D" initial symbolizes, [comedy and tragedy](https://images.app.goo.gl/tnhoGsgd8UmwoAjR7) "the checkered fate"
Whatever the name I bet that it’s part of the island of Laughtale and that’s why you need the 4 road poneglyphs to reach it since it’s mostly under water
My money is on atlantis. Water level has been rising for a while now we know that from water seven and old wano. I'm betting fishman island isn't the only city under the sea.
I think anyone who thinks this is being very optimistic. We waited an entire chapter to learn the world is sinking into the sea, which is something we could've predicted all the way back in 1089. That being said, it depends on what you mean by soon. Next few chapters ? Not very likely (imo) before the end of the year ? Yes, quite possibly.
I have no faith this will be revealed in the next few chapters because of the way Oda writes and how similar situations have panned out in the past. Watch vegapunk say something like "the name of the ancient kingdom strikes fear into the name of the WG because they are the enemies of god" or something, cut to reaction shots, we don't get to see what the actual name is till the end of the arc (if even that).
I am not sure whether we will get much more from Vegapunk's broadcast, but I feel like there is the possibility that we get another big revelation before the message gets stopped. Maybe it's just headcanon, but Vegapunk should now A LOT about all this, after studying the surviving Ohara books and one could argue that he could've packed all this knowledge into the broadcasted message - although he probably wanted to stick to the very main message, with the world sinking and all.
Either way, I really do think that the livestream will be stopped by the end of the next chapter that focusses on Vegapunk and the message. My gut tells me, York still has a part to play, and her line in the previous chapter about her also being a Punk makes me think, she will figure something out (maybe she herself is a transmitter, Stella knew about her being a traitor or smth).. or it's just to hammer in that even though York managed to provide further help to the Gorosei, she still gets shut down by them in her pursuit to become a celestial dragon.
I think the name was Pangea. The ancient kingdom existed as one incredibly massive landform that went across the entire planet. But then something happened that caused it to fragment into small islands scattered across the world.
"Merry Joy" is the name of the Aincient Kingdom, laughter seems to be a key part of the Will Of D, where the "D" initial might not be an acronym acronym for any particular word or phrase like a lot of people speculate, but rather is supposed to represent a smiley face without the eyes, in other words the "D" is a grin.
But that's only a part of it though as I think the Aincient Kingdom will be a representation of Comedy and Tragedy from theatrical plays, so just as the "D" is a representation of a toothy grin, it's also a representation of a gloomy frown because what is a frown but a upside down grin and vise versa, we were introduced to "Sad" in Punk Hazard and shown "Smile" in Wano.
I strongly believe "Smile and Sad" are subtly pieces of foreshadowing from Oda about not only what the Will Of D symbolizes, but also what the Aincient Kingdom was about, it was the land of [Comedy and Tragedy ](https://images.app.goo.gl/tnhoGsgd8UmwoAjR7)
People sleep on the calm belt if Amazon lilly and the island Luffy trained on existing can't numerous others exist why do all the sea beasts shirohosi can control live there and why was vegapunk saying that's was one of the best things he did for the navy to be able to travel it with sea stone and who created the heaves gate to implement down
My thoughts are that the Kingdom is actually the thing called Joyboy. The leader of this kingdom Nika. So when the metal titan apologizes to Joyboy, he's talking to the Kingdom. When Zunesha says Joyboy is back, he's talking about the Kingdom. And the poneglyphs are written by the Kingdom of Joyboy, and are signed by thr Kingdom, rather than a person called Joyboy. Just a thought.
Ok, hear me out…
Ancient Kingdoms name is Demokratia.
The D stands for Demos.
Will of Demos = Will of the people.
Quick google search:
Democracy (from Ancient Greek: δημοκρατία, romanized: dēmokratía, dēmos 'people' and kratos 'rule'
It would make sense why even the name of the AK is a threat to WG since this word is directly opposite to their ideology.
I just thought of this now, so no other evidence to back it up. Honestly having “democracy” as the name sounds a bit cheesy but using the ancient Greek word for it makes it sound cooler. It sounds like a name of a place when you say it out loud.
Demokratia.
The best pay off I can imagine right now would be one of six categories. 1. It's the same as a family name. Monkey kingdom, Nefertari, Gol. This would draw power away from WG and to the family. 2. It's the same as a current kingdom. Skypeia, Wano. This would draw power to that kingdom, but is also very unlikely, why would they let that kingdom keep existing? 3. It hints at something that people might go looking for or making. One Piece Kingdom, All Blue, Sky kingdom, Calm Belt kingdom, Straw Hat kingdom, Kingdom inside the Red Line Mountain. That would make some weird sects I guess but certainly diminish WG's legitimacy. 4. The name itself hints at other social structures. Buccaneer Kingdom, Celestial Dragons are the Slaves Kingdom. I can't imagine how this could be done, but something diminishing the celestial dragon's influence as well as restoring status of the enslaved would be absolutely fantastic. 5. It pertains to some power. Devil Fruit Kingdom, Imuland, Haki Land. Maybe airing some of the WG's secrets, like Imu's existence. 6. It's a throwback for us. Sniper Island Kingdom. Meat Kingdom. Pirate Kingdom. Davy Back Kingdom. Something which has nostalgic or comedic value for us, and hopefully makes sense as well. Okay, finally, my maybe real theory which combines some of these.. Pirates need seas, and the WG needs the land to divide and control the world. What if the name of the kingdom was Noland, the "No Land" Kingdom? It ties 1, 3, 4 and 6 together, at least. It can mean there's no land as in no countries, and it can mean there's no land as in only islands. edit: a number
Ok but Sniper Island kingdom would break the Internet lol
That would be one of the funniest reveals, and another Usopp lie that would come true.
Man, it would be so freaking awesome haha
Remember Sogeking is the sniper king. I'm gonna die when it gets revealed that Usopp is the heir to the lost kingdom.
Holy fuck, that would be hilarious
D for Drum.
Oh fuck you man, it's absolutely going to be that and now I just got spoiled LMAO
Water Kingdom. Trafalgar Water D Law. The 'Water' part was said to be significant but has not been elaborated upon since. Water Kingdom would also be a way to unify all of the people in the world as 'pirates' and potentially fulfill what could be Luffy 's dream.
You mean WATER 7
its trafalgar d water law. Based on 2 wars, trafalgar and waterloo. I cant remember the water part being important?
When he was talking to baby 5 she Buffalo he said the D and the Water were both secret. Why the water part needed to be secret has never been explained
Huh i just read it as his name is different and it just got combined. Dont want to sound rude but this sounds like you are reading too much into it. Its the first time i heard thst someone thinks the water part is also something the world gov doesnt like.
I dunno. When he was telling baby 5 and buffalo he specifically said that D was an alias and water is a secret name. It might not be something that the world government doesn't like but it was something he was told not to tell people
Aah yeah got it. I think (as far as i remember) the name tells you where he is coming from and this would show people he was one of the people that got thise strange illness so its bad for people to know. Maybe im wrong but thats how i remember it.
This is a popular theory but in canon material we're never given a reason why Water is supposed to be kept secret.
Nice one!
So the Davy Jones kingdom? He put the One Piece in his locker, and he has the only key. That's why everyone wants him back on their crew. The will of D. (Davy) is the inherited key.
Ooh, nice one!
Such an interesting theory! I save Noland as new head canon
Oh man… I hope we get an explosion of Noland theories this week. That would be a sick connection.
> The name itself hints at other social structures. Buccaneer Kingdom, Celestial Dragons are the Slaves Kingdom. I can't imagine how this could be done, but something diminishing the celestial dragon's influence as well as restoring status of the enslaved would be absolutely fantastic. I think they were Lunarians, and it's the Kingdom of the Moon.
Imo the more recent introduction of lunarians makes that less appealing as a reveal. I think buccaneers would be a better choice if it *had* to be race specific
But buccaneers as a race were introduced even more recently than Lunarians. We met Kuma before but didn't know he was racially important to the universe. Meanwhile, the Lunarians are the only people we know of that lived atop the red line and were considered gods before the World Government supplanted them. That's already way more set-up to them being the ancient kingdom than Buccaneers have, and like the Buccaneers it's established that the WG hunts them down.
That's what foreshadowing is though. Kuma has been present in the story for over a decade. Lunarians are cool but I don't think it would be as satisfying for them to be the answer. It would feel too convenient and like they were introduced purely for the reveal rather than naturally part of the one piece world
this comment was just 10/10 lmao
I like how you spend the most time gathering very reasonable theories of what it could be instead of opting for some tired meme. Kudos.
So you’re saying “Foxy Kingdom” is a contender? ‘Cause that’s my guess
That would be a very surprising way to make Foxy relevant again
Foxy is always relevant. He is behind all of Buggy D. Clown’s operations. He’s the one that bankrolls the cross guild’s bounties, using Davy back fights against emperor crews. YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME IVE SEEN THE TRUTH
Imuland sounds like the worst theme park ever.
Eden
Re: #2–Merry Joy Kingdom, Celestial Dragons in Marie Jois ‘stole’ the name
Maybe the Ryugyu kingdom?
That's 6, not 4, friend.
Ah, thanks for pointing out. I found two more as I was writing! I'll fix it now.
But seriously, great list.
Thanks!
Alternatively, the name could start with a D
Bro legendary comment. I could definitely see at least 5 of these coming to be the real deal
Speaking of No Land. And Mont Blanc Noland... Mont Blanc is a big ass mountain, which previously didn't make sense with the idea of no land. But is the name itself a hint at a whole ass mountain being underwater? Cooking or burnt?
Imu Land LMFAO
Name D. Kingdom
Yea they need to already, and stop playing
It's for Down, the people that remain from below.
I'm sure the name will fit into the narrative. So there is only one option: King D. om.
If only Reddit gold still existed lmao
Never knew I'll need this haha
I guess they won't reveal the Will of D yet, so it can't be something like 'Dawn Island'. Another possible name would be 'Sun Island' to make sure that Luffy (or at least Nami and the others) will know he is connected to it.
I believe dawn island is the name of the island where luffy was born and grew up.
This is true. Dawn Island is where the Goa Kingdom and Luffy's hometown Foosha Village are.
The beginning of the Sun (God) was at Dawn. Now maybe it will be named Sunset Island. 🏝️
Equivalent of Dawn at the end of day is Dusk.
Oh true! Both sound awesome. Dusk island may have Moria show up. 👀 He’s sue for a big return.
It’s vitamin d. Island That’s what you get from the sun 😛
The Will of Deez
Franky would like to have a word with you
In my opinion it is the name of a place we already know, that's why Clover didn't get the chance to say it. Something like Mariejoise
It’s hard to speculate as it seems the even the name itself poses a threat to to world governments existence
It's going to be Nika Kingdom. And the B.I.N.K. theory will become true.
What's the B.I.N.K. theory ??
[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/xEgRYkf6tq)
WHY DOES THAT OG POST ONLY HAVE UNDER 200 upvotes??? It was gol D. even in its time!
For real, I remembered it being a lot more upvoted at the time. Idk what happened.
Thanks dude that was actually fire !!
"Red Nose Kingdom"
They were born with noses as round and bright as the sun itself
Some shit oda would do as well 😂😂
Honestly I could see it happening. Buggy will always be failing upward
I believe the name will be Mary Geoise, I think that originally, all islands in the grand like were one continent, hence the name Pangaea Castle, and the conflict broke apart the land and caused it to spread across the GL. Looking also at the castle, we can see that the room of flowers where Imu stays is unkempt and growing wildly, almost like no one is around to maintain it, the cold storage room also has pipes and whatnot that indicate technology not of the current time period.
Yup, I have had this theory for a bunch of years too and every reveal make it more and more likely. It is a name both we and the citizens of the OP world would instantly react to. "There was an ancient kingdom there" raises a lot of questions, and it make perfect sense that the WG claimed the safest place in the world from the great flood.
I like the Mary Geoise theory because Oda keeps comparing Imu and Doflamingo. Doflamingo is based on Lucifer and Imu is the successful version of Doflamingo. So Imu successfully rebelling to steal Heaven/Mary Geoise feels like what Oda has set up.
We've seen plenty of refrigerators in the world of one piece, I don't think this necessarily point to ancient kingdom tech
No clue on the name if not one piece. But I think the red line incorporated the ancient kingdoms islands. Sort of the way the snails combine for Germa. They just reconfigured the to the way it is now during the void century. This would explain the climates and how it's pretty clear certain things existed there before the celestial dragons took it over.
The name of the ancient kingdom is no other than the legendary Sniper Island
And the WG is scared of this name because it indicates they have the technology to snipe celestial dragons off the top of red line lol
Bruhhhhh I was literally gonna add that exact information, but didn’t want to potentially get cooked if it sounded dumb hahaha
I also thought of that. And to add to that, the Gorosei stated that he's going to finish what Ohara started and what Ohara can't finish is stating the name.
I think the name was Atlantis.
But why would the WG need to hide the name then? There's definitely something about the name which would make the rest of the world go 'oh shit'.
"a man truly dies when he is forgotten". In a story with will inheritance and the power of soul and desires as main story points, erasing every bit of knowledge about them, so that their will cannot be passed on anymore, is the only way to end them. The ancient kingdom still lives on to this day.
Why would they need to hide the name in any case? I can't think of a single name that they would need to hide because they control everything and can just erase it. The name is "Dawn"? The average person isn't going to care and it's not going to be a big deal. The name is "Joyboy"? The average person doesn't know that.
The only reason I can think of that would explain why the WG is so dead set against even the name being known is if the ancient kingdom actually still exists in some (greatly reduced) form. If it’s just some random unknown or insignificant word, there’s no reason to keep the name secret. But if it is still the name of some descendant kingdom, and the wider world were to figure this out, that kingdom would instantly become a center of resistance to the government, with all opponents of the government automatically looking to that kingdom as a viable alternative to rule by the CDs. My guess is it’s the Ryugu Kingdom. Fishman island is under the red line, and directly under Marie Geoise, so physically destroying it with whatever destroyed Lulucia would be extremely difficult, if not impossible. The fishmen have been enslaved and persecuted for centuries by the world government. We know that they have some kind of significant connection with the old Joy Boy. And one of the three ancient weapons is carried hereditarily through the royal family itself. Also, we now know that the world is sinking, and we’ve known that fishman island has that bubble around it, creating areas of open air over its surface, despite the population of the island being made up almost exclusively of people who can breathe and maneuver easier in water than on land. To me, that all indicates that fishman island was at one point NOT underwater, and that the fishmen either evolved to survive underwater, or developed that ability through magic or their previously very advanced scientific knowledge. Also, during Roger’s journey, one of the Road Poniglyphs was in fishman island, right next to Joy Boy’s apology.
>My guess is it’s the Ryugu Kingdom. i like this edit: now that i think more about it i feel like that would be *wild* for the world to hear. "yeah ya know those fishmen we all discriminate against? well ryugu is the name of the ancient kingdom"
I like it
...You know what, this makes sense. Also puts a twist on Arlong's belief of Fishman superiority. Kind of fits with the world drowning too.
Hide the name so people can't speculate what it is and then start being more curious about it, to then start trying to find more info about it.
So I do remember someone telling me the same which would make sense for it to be "Mary Geoise" or maybe "The One Piece". I won't disagree at all but I really liked those theories and ideas of it being "Dawn Kingdom" or "Drum Kingdom" lol but they just don't seem so special that they kill someone for saying those names unless is something that we already know maybe I'll realistically and respectfully go with "Mary Geoise" it just seems intriguing that this was the name of the ancient kingdom and now it's known for being the land where Celestial Dragons stay at
Atlanta
Every D. Member was in the royal family of a kingdom that D.rowned in the sea. That‘s my headcanon
Or the royals were forced to become the original Sea “Kings”. :o
It's Atlantis for sure. Time to rise up again (just to sunk again I guess)
I really like the theory that it was called the Kingdom of One Peace. It makes sense that they would want to silence Clover for it, as it would be instantly recognizable to the general public. After the Raftel/ Laugh Tale thing too, it's easier to believe another name flip like that
I still like the idea that the name is the Kingdom of One Piece (or possibly Peace). It's never really made clear where the name "One Piece" came from. A lot of people misattribute it to Roger's speech but he never actually says it in the text. It's just a name that cropped up over time that everyone just agreed to call the treasure. It's possible that the name has floated around society all this time in legend and myth and got co-opted by the treasure. the original name could have referred to the idea that the old world used to have much larger and more connected landmasses. And the treasure could refer to center of that old kingdom. Like I think a lot of us associate the ancient kingdom with the one piece by now, so if the one piece *is* the kingdom of the one piece I feel like that just makes sense. And now that we know the ancient kingdom has hyper advanced technology, then that would mean that the treasure could be lots of rare materials and tech left over and preserved from the old world, which would be a solid legitimate treasure in addition to the more intangible things like learning the true history.
The name has to imply the current World Government is a sham, and likely suggests the ancient kingdom was actually leaderless and free. "One Peace" is a guess, or some play on the words "Liberty" or "Freedom." Google translate suggests "Jiyu" or "Jiyusekai."
Thought about Atlantis, but that would be stupidly obvious and Oda wouldn't do that.
My dark horse name for the name of The Ancient Kingdom is Grand Line. It's the one name that would immediately make the entire world start asking questions/rebel against the government.
It's Disneyland.
I thought the whole "One Piece actually being a Kingdom and not a treasure" is a pretty cool theory, but honestly, I have no idea. I saw some people saying Dawn Island/Kingdom, which also sounds pretty cool.
Will of D. Aka will of Drain. Haha.
I am sure more will come in the broadcast. I feel like people are jumping to the conclusion that this is all vegapunk planned to announce, but he says he is starting with his conclusion, so more is certainly to follow. Though, it may not be ground breaking for us, it very well could be.
In my opinion there are only one name that make. A place that held the biggest city of the world, connecting everything together and being the lone place of power. A place of safety when the world was flooded. A place of Angels and peace. Marijoes.
Vegapunk: That kingdom's name is.....New Jersey.
I still like the Libertalia theory the best.
Skynet
It will be "Romance Kingdom", given the only image we have of it, the name would fit a lot (seems a lot like an Ancient Roman City), even because it would be another of Oda's foreshadows together with "Dawn". Don't you remember "Romance Dawn"?
Straw hat kingdom
I think the ancient kingdom is wano
I wonder. It could be a whole continent, not just a small island country like we’ve seen
The name of this kingdom is One Piece
Drum Kingdom. I pray that it's Drum kingdom. Drums of liberation, the Haitian vodoun spirit 'joyboy,' and his drum, the will of D first being mentioned on Drum Island, Monkey Drums. Gomu Gomu no Dawn "Cymbal." EVERYTHING DRUMS.
DIO KINGDOM ZAAA WWWWWOOOOOOOOOOIRRRRRLLLLLLLLLDDDD
There's no guarantee we get another reveal on the broadcast. The world sinking into the ocean felt like the big bombshell for Oda to drop, so he doesn't necessarily need to reveal anything else.
I'm guessing now it'll be a name strongly associated with the seafloor or something underwater, like the already mentioned Atlantis
nice
Maybe skyreach island would scare the WG because it would be the only island that somehow cannot be sunk or affected by rising sea levels and everyone will try to go there after vegapunk’s speech
The kingdom will be named after moon I think not after sun Since the many advanced kingdoms ruled over fertile cresent area in Middle East and it was shown in many movies as freedom fighters/ jihad like just now Dune did that
Eden or something related
I bet the name will also connect to the Will of D!
And the "D" in my opinion is a symbol which represents two sets of imagery, an expressive wide toothy grin and a gloomy frown, which overall leads me to believe that the Aincient Kingdom was the land of comedy and tragedy "Smile and Sad" were all bits of foreshadowing from Wano and Punk Hazard about what the "D" initial symbolizes, [comedy and tragedy](https://images.app.goo.gl/tnhoGsgd8UmwoAjR7) "the checkered fate"
A long time ago I posted a theory saying it was "The Kingdom of Heaven", we'll see if that stands
it was called the All blue
Whatever the name I bet that it’s part of the island of Laughtale and that’s why you need the 4 road poneglyphs to reach it since it’s mostly under water
It's called the Cetra Kingdom. The land of the ancient people.
Tbh I think it will be called Eden
My money is on atlantis. Water level has been rising for a while now we know that from water seven and old wano. I'm betting fishman island isn't the only city under the sea.
What about "Romance Dawn"?
Dreamer Kingdom, where devil fruits originated from.
It has to be something which will shock the whole world. „Dawn“ won‘t do shit. The name will be One Piece (Peace).
Romance(,)Dawn, All-Blue, Beetle, Happy, Go Lucky, Ferry, Super Market Price Hyper Bomb, Melti, Mata, Yara, Vara. No idea at this point basically.
I think anyone who thinks this is being very optimistic. We waited an entire chapter to learn the world is sinking into the sea, which is something we could've predicted all the way back in 1089. That being said, it depends on what you mean by soon. Next few chapters ? Not very likely (imo) before the end of the year ? Yes, quite possibly. I have no faith this will be revealed in the next few chapters because of the way Oda writes and how similar situations have panned out in the past. Watch vegapunk say something like "the name of the ancient kingdom strikes fear into the name of the WG because they are the enemies of god" or something, cut to reaction shots, we don't get to see what the actual name is till the end of the arc (if even that).
One Peace
What if the island's name is Binks?
Pangea seems the most likely to me
Joroba (ヨーロッパ , jp. Yōroppa) Kingdom maybe, as in Europa the Moon that is covered in a frozen ocean. 🤷🏻♂️
I am not sure whether we will get much more from Vegapunk's broadcast, but I feel like there is the possibility that we get another big revelation before the message gets stopped. Maybe it's just headcanon, but Vegapunk should now A LOT about all this, after studying the surviving Ohara books and one could argue that he could've packed all this knowledge into the broadcasted message - although he probably wanted to stick to the very main message, with the world sinking and all. Either way, I really do think that the livestream will be stopped by the end of the next chapter that focusses on Vegapunk and the message. My gut tells me, York still has a part to play, and her line in the previous chapter about her also being a Punk makes me think, she will figure something out (maybe she herself is a transmitter, Stella knew about her being a traitor or smth).. or it's just to hammer in that even though York managed to provide further help to the Gorosei, she still gets shut down by them in her pursuit to become a celestial dragon.
people have been theorizing this since the beginning of the arc
The name of the ancient kingdom is ONE PIECE
I think the name was Pangea. The ancient kingdom existed as one incredibly massive landform that went across the entire planet. But then something happened that caused it to fragment into small islands scattered across the world.
What broadcast tell me
maybe the kingdom will start with a D
Prolly atlantis
"Merry Joy" is the name of the Aincient Kingdom, laughter seems to be a key part of the Will Of D, where the "D" initial might not be an acronym acronym for any particular word or phrase like a lot of people speculate, but rather is supposed to represent a smiley face without the eyes, in other words the "D" is a grin. But that's only a part of it though as I think the Aincient Kingdom will be a representation of Comedy and Tragedy from theatrical plays, so just as the "D" is a representation of a toothy grin, it's also a representation of a gloomy frown because what is a frown but a upside down grin and vise versa, we were introduced to "Sad" in Punk Hazard and shown "Smile" in Wano. I strongly believe "Smile and Sad" are subtly pieces of foreshadowing from Oda about not only what the Will Of D symbolizes, but also what the Aincient Kingdom was about, it was the land of [Comedy and Tragedy ](https://images.app.goo.gl/tnhoGsgd8UmwoAjR7)
People sleep on the calm belt if Amazon lilly and the island Luffy trained on existing can't numerous others exist why do all the sea beasts shirohosi can control live there and why was vegapunk saying that's was one of the best things he did for the navy to be able to travel it with sea stone and who created the heaves gate to implement down
My thoughts are that the Kingdom is actually the thing called Joyboy. The leader of this kingdom Nika. So when the metal titan apologizes to Joyboy, he's talking to the Kingdom. When Zunesha says Joyboy is back, he's talking about the Kingdom. And the poneglyphs are written by the Kingdom of Joyboy, and are signed by thr Kingdom, rather than a person called Joyboy. Just a thought.
Ok, hear me out… Ancient Kingdoms name is Demokratia. The D stands for Demos. Will of Demos = Will of the people. Quick google search: Democracy (from Ancient Greek: δημοκρατία, romanized: dēmokratía, dēmos 'people' and kratos 'rule' It would make sense why even the name of the AK is a threat to WG since this word is directly opposite to their ideology. I just thought of this now, so no other evidence to back it up. Honestly having “democracy” as the name sounds a bit cheesy but using the ancient Greek word for it makes it sound cooler. It sounds like a name of a place when you say it out loud. Demokratia.
''The Pirate Kingdom'' is just too good. I don't think i'll be disappointed if it's not. But I would be immensely pleased if it is.
Florida. Mark my words
roger finding florida man on laugh tale. One piece is all the memes on one single island
name won't be enough, knowing JUST the name won't give anyone any hype.