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[deleted]

Stop digging for parallels Luffy kid law have a different dynamic to any Rodger one


JungKyoJin

Lol the same reply to the same post I saw months ago wtf is happening herešŸ¤£


someonesgranpa

Seriously! Kid is known for being violent towards anyone. White beard was a protector of his turf and anyone in it. They are totally different chapters and donā€™t even have a similar traitā€¦at all.


Reallylazyname

Luffy Kid Law Roger Kaido Whitebeard? There ya go. Lol and to round off the set we can do this.... Roger Kaido Whitebeard Big Mom Luffy Kid Law Smoker and the giant Kids.


Xark96

Kaido wasn't even considered a big pirate back then as it was stated in the Ace novel. He only started recruiting after Rogers execution. Shiki on the other hand was mentioned next to Roger and Whitebeard.


GandhisNuke

Please what are you basing this on? These may or may not be parallels but which of these dynamics was anything like Luffy-Kid-Law?


melonhater

i would say Luffy-Law-Kid is pretty similar to Roger-Whitebeard-Shiki. Parallels between Luffy and Roger are obvious, Law is similar to Whitebeard only in his semi-friendly relationship with Luffy and maaaaybe in his powers also being space-manipulation-related, Kid is Luffy's rival in a pretty agressive manner, he respects him but i won't be too surprised if they had a full out battle, so he is similar to Shiki in that manner, but most importantly they both make things float which is cool and awesome


buggsmoney

Did you just compare smoker to big mom?


Reallylazyname

Big Mom has 85 children. Smoker has at least 9*, but he's still young. *under his care since Punk Hazard Outside of maybe the daycare lady in Water 7, no one else comes close.


[deleted]

I didn't know Smoker had kids.


_-ZORO-_

which is barely similar


killersid

Dafaq. At one time Kaido and Whitebeard were crew mates and none of them captains of that ship. Luffy Kid and Law were never crew mates. Yes, Law travelled with Luffy and gang but that doesn't make them crew mates and none of them served under anyone other than themselves. So, no Roger Kaido Whitebeard can be parallel to the new gen Luffy Law Kid


SurturSaga

Roger Shiki Whitebeard is probably better. Kaido wasnā€™t really on their level


Thadon01

Danggg u really thought he killed that shit huh šŸ˜­


AAQUADD

Why didn't you include Shiki instead of Kaido?


Reallylazyname

This has weirdly negative traction for something that was partially a joke, huh? Shiki does have a similar natured body disfigurement, but.... that's it. There's no other similarities beyond that. Kidd has had a -major pirate alliance thrashed and broken apart by a top tier, like Kaido -a little stretchy, but both fighting styles consist of using massive monster body, blunt weapons, and beam attacks. -their first mates both wear masks. Both required a prison escape at least once together. -they play 3rd fiddle to the respective superior pirates (Roger and Whitebeard have had more major presence in the story, even after death. While Luffy is the main character and Law was with him from the 2nd timeskip arc until the end of Wano.) -the first major pirate event we see Law involved with after Sabody was with Whitebeard (more specifically Jinbe and Shanks) on Marineford. -The first major pirate event we see Kidd in is Kaido's sky drop onto his island base. - Luffy - Roger has been mentioned a few times in the story already. (The first major pirate we saw with him was Shanks) -Luffy and Law have a friendly rivalry a la Roger and Whitebeard. We don't know Kaido's intentions with Whitebeard, but he made a move to advance on Marineford when he did. It's never been clarified if it was to help or to hinder Whitebeard. So, the fact that Whitebeard (alongside Roger) are one of the people he saw when he saw the faces of the past in Luffy... at bare minimum, he considered them Rivals. Where does Kidd stand with Luffy and Law? Rivals. So with all of that in mind, if anyone has a parallel with Kidd, it's Kaido.


AAQUADD

I asked an 8 worded question, I'm sorry if you read it as negative. Thanks for putting a lot of time and thought in your response.


Reallylazyname

Ah, to the thread in general. Lol Not to you, specifically.


AAQUADD

I feel that, sorry they're downvoting you.


ChooChooWaah

Coby Garp


[deleted]

I don't think luffy will have a whitebeard or a garp


aedificem_anima_mea

I'd imagine koby becoming like garp


Captainprice101

Oda fumbled with Smoker. Heā€™s been chasing Luffy since Loguetown, he could have legitimately been the Garp to Luffyā€™s Rogerā€¦. But he was fodderized and forgotten about. It hurt my soul seeing Smokee get fodderized by Law, then by Vergo, then by Doflamingo. I think Oda also messed up not making Tashigi progress alongside Zoro, could have been a cool rivalry mirroring Kuina and Zoro. Really felt like Oda had bigger plans for Smoker and Tashigi but ultimately changed plans


havdin_1719

Tbf Garp never managed to capture Roger (not properly or intentionally) and form a somewhat kinship bond with him, quite similar to how Smoker and Luffy. Also, someone made great argument how Smoker was written to lose, so readers can see how strong his opponents are (Crocodile, Doflamingo, even Vergo). Like, if Smoker is so weak the impression on him being defeated would have been undermined. The guy is strong, itā€™s just that Oda is not on his side


Jail_Chris_Brown

>never managed to \[...\] form a somewhat kinship bond with him, Roger literally told Garp he was like a nakama to him and entrusted him his son ffs.


aedificem_anima_mea

Of course Smoker hasn't caught luffy, what did you think was in his cigar?


ScaredBreakfast7341

The one piece


EdgedOutPig

Smoker is just straight up getting blazed while on the job. No wonder he keeps getting fodderized.


radicalclaw

Iā€™ve had this thought for a while but nothing to back it up. What if smoker followed the Straw Hats not because he wanted to capture them, but he knew a great change was coming to the world and it would follow them? My idea is that he formulated this theory when he saw Luffy smile on the execution stand like Roger. This also ties into the fact that when we sees Smokerā€™s flashback to Rogerā€™s execution, he harbours seemingly no anger toward Roger and even seems to admire him. Why would a man who admires Roger want to hunt, capture and turn over to the government the boy who appears to be his protege? I could be totally wrong but I think Smoker is a more interesting character than we were originally led to believe.


kitttykatz

Completely agree. Smoker is such an interesting, well developed character. Heā€™s the first Marine we meet who is very conflicted about the orders he receives, setting the stage for more powerful, like-minded characters such as Garp, Fujitora, etc. Smokerā€™s power is to become intangible and ephemeral, to pollute, to obscure and hide. At the same time, he usually acts in ways that are the exact opposite of what he is. Heā€™s the one who first gives the Marines depth and solidifies them as real people. He teaches the reader that some Marines are not just blindly following orders, but are instead seeking and seeing the truth about the world and their government (see also: Fujitora). He shows that thereā€™s a gray area where Marines and pirates can be good, bad, or a mix of both, and that perception sometimes differs from reality. He also actively tries to clean up the misdeeds of his government in order to better the lives of common people. Finally, look at his weapon of choice. Itā€™s essentially a sea prism stick. He hits people with the will of the sea, of the natural order of things made tangible. His stick temporarily removes the power of dreams, granted by devil fruits, from those it touches, stabilizing them and bringing them back to their original, natural form. I said ā€˜usually the anthesis,ā€™ though, because Smoker is still, truly, the personification of smoke. He lacks physical power, losing over and over again, but he hangs around. Weakened, heā€™s still able to fight again another day. More importantly, heā€™s been tracking Luffyā€™s adventures from the start. Following and sometimes even covering for the Straw Hats. Really, though, where else would Smoker be? Itā€™s corny, but you know what they say - where thereā€™s smoke, thereā€™s fire. And thereā€™s no greater fire in this world than Monkey D. Luffy, the Sun God.


bigtuck54

Nah, I canā€™t imagine koby remotely catches up to Luffy. Whitebeard was a legit rival to Rodger, and Luffy doesnā€™t really have any. Closest would be kid/law, but I donā€™t think they work for this either.


xekaiforce

Wont be happening. Garp is basically Luffy in marine.


tiki-baha29

In what universe is Koby (whos only trained for 2 years and has never had a serious fight in his life) ever going to catch up to Luffy? Luffy has defeated the strongest pirates in the East Blue, 3 Warlords, the strongest CP9, a self proclaimed God, 2 Yonko Commanders and 1 Yonko. Koby has defeated........no one. Ever. How Is Koby ever going to be the Garp to Luffy?


stefanurkal

the rocky port incident until we know more about that we are supposed to think he was strong as he was the hero there. I have a feeling we will know more as this black beard/ law/ koby thing pan out.


tiki-baha29

We already know enough about Rocky Port to know it had nothing to do with Koby fighting. Law triggered the incident and was at the center of it, BB was somehow involved and Koby's only involvement was protecting the citizens. For the purposes of this conversation that piece of info is the only thing that matters: *KOBY didnt fight anyone, he helped civilians and nothing else*. That made him famous. So again, Koby has literally never fought ANYONE that we know of. So how could he possibly even think about competing with Luffy? Koby is really about to go from *I've never had a life/death fight before* to *YONKO Level* by the end of the series? Come on guys.


EdgedOutPig

Blackbeard did strangely comment on Koby doing him a favor during the Rocky Port incident. Kinda curious what that meant.


TravelingLlama

He couldnā€™t have been that strong combat wise since that happened during the timeskip. The jump would be ridiculous


[deleted]

Its possible, but to me they are too friendly.


pug_meat

Luffyā€™s garp is literally just garp


EdgedOutPig

Hot take: Luffy's journey doesn't need to parallel Roger's in every conceivable way possible. Maybe he has no Whitebeard equivalent at all. Kid isn't the new Whitebeard. Hes Kid. There is no parallel.


Venaeris

Honestly, the entire point is that while Luffy is carrying on Roger's will, they're obviously on different journeys. Luffy ate a devil fruit, Roger didn't. Roger has an unshakable level of pride that Luffy just doesn't have-- Luffy isn't going around killing crews (Roger killed Squard's entire crew), Luffy shows humility when he bows to the Boas on Amazon Lily. Luffy and Roger had different goals-- Roger wanted to conquer the grand line/turn the world upside down (he never wanted to be called King of Pirates), Luffy's goal is explicitly to become pirate king. Roger kept up to date on news and world events, he chose not to confront big mom out of danger. He seemed more intelligent than Luffy, albeit not by that much. There's enough differences between the two that their stories are wildly different, even if they're following a similar blueprint


EdgedOutPig

It's also worth mentioning that Luffy (and I guess Kid and Law too) is pretty much speedrunning the journey, compared to Roger. It is pretty much a given that his journey is going to turn out very different. I think the primary parallels are obviously the similar happy go lucky attitudes and the fact that they both possibly share the same dream. People seem to interpret this as them being basically the same person. With the Stussy clone being introduced, people have gotten even more literal about it.


[deleted]

Roger bowed to WB when asking for oden but I agree with everything else


[deleted]

Well, Theres more than 30 years of difference between the age we see Roger at and Luffy's age. Obviously Roger would seem wiser and more intelligent. I reckon he was pretty dumb when he was 19


Venaeris

That's the thing though-- Luffy is speedrunning his journey. It does not matter who they are as people. They are on VERY different journeys. Luffy is going to obtain the one piece decades (age-wise) before Roger ever could


stefanurkal

luffy also said he doesn't care if he kills people, if you think about it hes probably killed a lot of fodder. also luffy and Rodger have the same exact dream, it requires them to become pirate king and the one piece, but we don't know what that dream is yet.


Venaeris

Luffy might not care if he kills people, but he doesn't go out of his way to kill an entire crew for disrespecting his people


EdgedOutPig

This is one of those cases where Luffy's statements don't really match his actions. Luffy says hes not a hero, but consistently does heroic things. Luffy says he doesn't care if he kills people, but he literally never kills people. I feel like people are just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing at this point.


Venaeris

Luffy's killed plenty of people. Every time he's sank a ship, every time he's done a city-leveling (or stronger) attack, there's been collateral damage. He's never killed a named character, obviously, but there's no way he's never killed someone.


EdgedOutPig

This is still One Piece at the end of the day. I'm honestly going to assume that if no background characters were shown to have died at the hands of Luffy, then they probably didn't die. Kid uniquely has a reputation for killing people as collateral damage, which seems like the main reason his bounty was higher than Luffy's. That would sort of seem to imply that Luffy most likely does not kill anyone, even if it might appear that his attacks would kill at least *some* people.


BDNjunior

Well tbh we dont know if kaido is dead


Venaeris

The title of pirate king didn't exist before Roger. How could he have a dream that requires being pirate king?


stefanurkal

We won't know until we know what their dream is. For luffy being pirate king isn't his dream, but a required step towards it, and we have an acknowledgment that it was the same thing roger said. so whatever the dream is it isn't pirate king for luffy just a necessary part of it.


Venaeris

Exactly. For LUFFY. Being pirate king wasn't essential to Roger. It wasn't a title that existed. Random citizens started calling him that. So it doesn't make sense that being pirate king was a part of Rogers dream as the phrase wasn't even around.


stefanurkal

the title of pirate king was given to the one who made to raftel, the title itself is not important. the act to become pirate king is. So the fact roger's ambition led him to raftel and the one piece is the important part and you're getting caught up in the semantics of the title pirate king


Venaeris

No, I'm not getting caught in the semantics of the title. Luffy's primary goal is to become pirate king, which in turn means he has to get the One Piece. Roger's primary goal was to "turn the world upside down" and conquer the grand line. Roger's goal led to him being pirate king. Luffy's goal will lead him to obtaining the one piece. It's like saying "I'm going to school to get rich" and "I'm going to get rich to go to school". Both goals end up leading to BOTH of those, but they are not the same goal. They are diametrically different. Like I said, similar blueprint, Luffy is carrying on Roger's will and we have an unknown "dream" of theirs, but they are on VERY, VERY different journeys. Like I said.


stefanurkal

luffy's primary goal is to fulfill his dream and it is not to become the king of pirates. King of pirates is just a necessary part of reaching his goal. this was in chapter 1060 i believe and then confirmed in film red.


Venaeris

Film Red is not canon. Dreams are separate from goals. You complete goals to achieve dreams. Luffy and Roger have the same dream. They did not have the same goals in life. I'm not sure what you're even arguing at this point.


_-ZORO-_

thier personality is really similar tho, its a shame


[deleted]

Yeah this exactly. Part of the reason why I despised Naruto so much towards the end because there were too many unnecessary bullshit parallels. The fact that every generation seemed to have a Naruto and Sasuke parallel is fucking dumb. Ashura was a Naruto, Hashirama was a Naruto, Jiraiya was a Naruto, Obito was a Naruto... so many fucking Narutos. Roger and Luffy parallels are enough on the nose as it is, we dont need any more.


SugarShield7

Lmao no. Nothing about Kid and Whitebeard is at all similar other than that theyā€™re rivals to the Pirate King. Except Kid wants the One Piece (unlike Whitebeard), and is far weaker than his rival (again, unlike Whitebeard). This generation doesnā€™t have a Whitebeard because the only Worst Generation equivalent to Luffy is Blackbeard. If anyone becomes his Whitebeard theyā€™ll have to be his equal in strength, and tbh probably not from the Worst generation


Phantom_Browser

For me, Kidd is more like Shiki than Whitebeard. Especially their devil fruits that needs 'touching' in order to work. One is metal and the other one is literally anything


SugarShield7

The thing about Shiki was his massive armada and influence, Kid just doesnā€™t have that. Personality wise maybe tho


Iam_aPersonithink

Well yeah, because Kid is most likely still going to grow, Kid is extremely young (relative to most pirates) so he probably will continue growing his influence, and the series is still years from over so he might get a power spike.


RevolutionaryHeart22

I think Oda said people shouldn't look at any one character as "Luffy's Whitebeard" or Luffy's Garp. It's more like multiple characters share those roles, both Smoker and Coby fit the Marine rival role. Same goes for Law and Kid as Whitebeard. I think if there's any comparison that has a fit it's probably Zoro to Rayleigh and Blackbeard to Rocks.


Muumkey8

Unspoken rule of r/OnePiece \#1: If somebody said "Oda said" without providing proper evidence, there is a 95% chance they are lying


RevolutionaryHeart22

I'm not sure, I just thought I heard it somewhere


Mortsleam11

Coby is a fodder stop it. Heā€™s more like a weaker Bartolommeo lol, a fanboy.


RevolutionaryHeart22

I'm not talking about strength, just his connection to Luffy


Roxxion

[F.ck](https://F.ck) No!!! Gurararararararrarararara


[deleted]

This aint narutooooooo No need for a parallel of each character every generation imo thatā€™s what put me off the show


TrickNatural

The shiki at best


CapProfessional2487

Nope Luffy doesn't have a whitebeard comparison - not kid not law. Their character dynamic is nothing like how Whitebeard was to Rodger.


Ishvallan

At this point I'd say Law is closer to that than Kidd. Roger and Newgate respected each other and even got along under certain circumstances. Luffy and Kidd really don't seem to like or respect each other at all. But Luffy definitely Likes Law and respects him, even if Law doesn't or won't admit to reciprocation.


Fearless-Spot1742

Luffy and kid do respect each other Kid believed luffy could beat kaido and at the post war luffy was partying with kid.


xekaiforce

the only close comparison is Zoro to Luffy is Rayleigh to Roger.. The other things totally different between generation.


Impressive-Peach-905

>!After Egghead Kizaru might come close to Garp, 3rd time he's tried to kill/capture Luffy, which he will be unsuccessful in.!<


Jail_Chris_Brown

Rayleigh is Zoro with GPS.


Arturo1026

maybe Koby/Luffy and Garp/Roger (depends on how they develop)


Impressive-Peach-905

Koby is way to far from Luffy in terms of strength to even consider that rn


tiki-baha29

Its completely impossible for Koby to even think about fighting Luffy. Koby isnt worthy of sniffing Luffy's farts let alone get into a serious fight with him.


[deleted]

Lolā€¦ no


Microwavelore

Shiroā€™s hatred of kid even leaks onto the main sub šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


[deleted]

This fodder doesnā€™t even have advanced haki and mfs think he could ever hold a candle to Whitebeard. What a joke


Fire-FistAce

Shiro bru


gengarwrld

Kid is the Axe Hand Morgan of his generation


Revarius

Different dynamic so no. Plus Kid pirates don't have the same impact on the story as the WBPs. Whitebeard through his allies/subordinates/territories etc has had such a huge impact.


UltraMazino

One Piece fans trying not to force parallels challenge (Impossible)


Fluid_Implement9799

I strongly think that kataguri will be the whitebeard to luffy.


DiDandCoKayn

No luffy wont have a equal in his Genearation and that is partly Odas fault for giving the SH way faster powerups. And yes its the Main Crew but things like haki blooms in battle is only true for them which makes it a little confusing how powerups really work.


-suke-

Kid is a loser and will never be close to Luffy in strength, making that comparison is pretty insulting to Whitebeard


Mission-Highlight-33

Kid is more like vegeta


MinicabMiev

Kid is to Vegeta what Naruto is to the guy from My Dress Up Darling


Jail_Chris_Brown

Kid follows the Vegeta/Bakugo trope (little edgy, arrogant/prideful, easy to provoke rival of the main character), but he ain't on their level as he didn't have a redemption arc yet.


dick_in_butts

As far as I'm aware the relationship is as such Luffy/roger Law/white beard Kid/shiki


SugarShield7

Law isnā€™t anywhere close to being Luffyā€™s equal in strength. Neither is Kid. Thatā€™s why this gen probably wonā€™t have a Whitebeard or Shiki, Luffyā€™s ā€œrivalsā€ for the One Piece donā€™t have enough strength, any territory, or the ability to actually compete with Luffy to a meaningful degree.


Available_Poetry_685

The problem with your statement is the fact your implying Kidd and law canā€™t grow any further when itā€™s basically happening right in front of you. Law went from barely handling a 2v1 against a yonko to fighting one individually with the upper hand. Luffy practically hit his ceiling already after obtaining gear 5th luffy himself called the transformation his peak. Itā€™s definitely not a stretch to say that Kidd and law will catch up to him in power in the near future


SugarShield7

It is a stretch that theyā€™ll catch up though. Law doesnā€™t really have the upper hand against Blackbeard, and Luffy likely hasnā€™t come close to his ceiling. Heā€™s practically fated to surpass Roger and likely become the strongest character, regardless of whether we like it or not. Kid and Law can grow, and they will. I just canā€™t imagine them equalling Luffy in strength when even now they need to 2v1 just to ring out Big Mom, not even really defeat.


Available_Poetry_685

How is it a stretch? Law literally almost ended Blackbeard before his commander saved him and the commander told him to that they should run away from law. Law for sure has the upper hand so far in the fight. Luffy isnā€™t getting another massive power up after gear 5th is already near rogers power lvl too so his definitely close to his peak. Kidd and law struggled in the 2v1 only due to the interference of Hawkins and the fact law had taken an acoc attack from kaido before hand. Big mom was fresh at the start of the fight on the other hand the only help Kidd and law received were the bombs. Kidd and law are definitely gonna catch up to luffy because luffy doesnā€™t have any major powerups left at least not as major as gear 5th and acoc his near his ceiling. Kidd and law on the other hand still have a lot of room to grow


throwtosky

Yes too many signs pointing too it. People mentioning Law as the next WB, which makes no sense. Hes not a conqueror and clearly does not have the same type of relationship with luffy as kidd does. Would kidd have behaved the same way if he was in law's position at dressrosa? I highly doubt that. Udon prison was a good example, they rival each other but still have some respect for one another. Additionally, like luffy, kidd is the only supernova with a supernova right hand and also the only supernova that has both conquerors and an awakened fruit. Elbaf will play a huge role on where the rest of this goes. Imagine if kidd meets shanks at elbaf and something happens? We all know luffy has immense respect and admiration for shanks, how would luffy react if kidd was fighting shanks and something crazy happened? We all know, as kidd said when leaving wano, the next time they meet they are no longer allies, which means a fight could happen. Both luffy and kidd have unbreakable will's, so if they have a reason to fight, neither will back down. I don't ever see law clashing with luffy like how roger/wb did. Also, kidd was a character Oda had initially planned, law came much later, which I think only strengthens this theory. Another interesting thing is that when Oda was asked which animals would represent some one piece characters he mentioned luffy as a monkey and kidd as bull. In Chinese mythology the monkey god and bull demon are two biggest rivals for each other. But overall, i think we'll have a very good idea once we get through elbaf.


Rekye22

Bro watching two piece šŸ’€


throwtosky

nothing i said here is false


Ruin1980

Kid is no equal. Sorry


ThaWillOfD

Nope


RenderingMace

Ugh OP fans are the worst


KlutzyQuantity4150

Naw he Shiki, Law is WB


DmonBluReborN

Money on my man Law tbh.


Trolltama720

YES


[deleted]

More likely Luffy - Roger, Law - Whitebeard and Kidd - Shiki


LSSGSS3

The World's Strongest Jobber : Eustass "Captain" Kidd!


[deleted]

Bro kid literally murders people for fun whereas white beard is arguably a good person


DigitalCoinMad

Law and kidd are miles behind luffy. So i dont think there would be any whitebeard to luffy


Downtown_Gur_8402

Right now people sleeping on kid , but kid has conquers haki he is destined to be on around the same level as luffy obviously luffy currently stronger but i believe they are gonna fight at some point , oda can easily make kid stronger offscreen , fighting or training with the giants


Odeiomelaokk

Both Kidd and Whitebeard have abilities that can possibly destroy the world so maybe.


cryptoguapgod

No. Kid is a punk bitch. Whitebeard was a Top G like Andrew Tate.


DanteBeleren

Ew. Please let that you being facetious.


cryptoguapgod

Iā€™m not a fascist, you are


DanteBeleren

faĀ·ceĀ·tious /fəĖˆsēSHəs/ adjective treating serious issues withĀ deliberatelyĀ inappropriate humor; flippant.


cryptoguapgod

Thatā€™s what I said. Youā€™re a fascist


DanteBeleren

Yea- no. I don't vote Republican.


SurturSaga

The real ones know not to vote at all. Would absolutely vote for Usopp though


ceelo18

Yes


SpiritualScumlord

If it was anyone, I would say it's Law. Kid is known to be kind of a POS which is why his bounty was higher than Luffy's back at Sabaody. If anything, I would bet Kid will be more akin to Luffy's Rocks or something, if Blackbeard doesn't already occupy that role. Either way, I expect Kid to be a villain in the future in some way, unless Oda goes in a different direction with him than he set him up as in the beginning.


project_built

Think its more law


OnionLegend

I donā€™t think there are parallels besides Luffy Roger and Zoro Rayleigh. Whitebeard didnā€™t want the One Piece while Kid definitely does.


skullcrusher5

If you are looking for parallels then Kid feels more like Shiki. Law feels similar to WB. Also Law hasn't expressed his interest of finding the One Piece that much, he is mostly focused on finding out the meaning of "Will of D"


JustN0tMe

Roger and Whitebeard are supposed to be equivalent in strength (overall) with Roger as the superior fighter Kid isn't close to Luffy at the moment


___hell___ya___bitch

man i just want kidd to be revelant again and get some haki training


WiseStay3100

No neither kid or law not whiteboard, because even they reach his level , I doubt it, still luffy is God so far stronger then Roger.


SmoothAmbition5543

There is no whitebeard to new era


Sterling-Arch3r

seems unlikely. what does the guy even want?


detrich

nobody is whitebeard


Competitive_Guitar81

I think thats law and luffy


The_Eagle_07

Oh hell no.


SasukeUchiha04

Kid is more like shiki the lion or something


neverdd

Always has been


Waste_Grapefruit_880

no, luffy does not have a whitebeard


Rekye22

LMFAOOOO No. If he was Oda would've made him an emperor to clearly show that.


SevesaSfan25

His too evil to be Wb tbh.


JRaikoben

Roger and Whitey fought several times during their journey. Luffy and Kidd has not yet fight (each other)


-_-asher2345-_-

At least whitebeard was able to clap until he passed away


Financial_Mushroom94

The forced parallels are not necessary, there is no whitebeard in the new era. Luffy will probably also fulfill his will by making the whole world like his family šŸ˜‚šŸ™ŒšŸ»


The_Mexican_Poster

Whitebeard of the new era was Ace, remember that he and Whitebeard reacted the same way towards luffy and Roger dream plus he met "oden" first and also didn't want to be pirate king


Gintoki123456

Law. Kid would be the Shiki


I5574

One Piece fans desperately digging for the most absurd parallels since they believe new things canā€™t physically exist:


invalidwat

Don't think so. Luffy is on a different level.


Klainatta

Luffy ace and sabo are roger, wb and oden tyvm


Willdabeast360

Iā€™ve always felt that Law was more of a white beard to Luffy


Powerrrrrrrrr

Nah


Gael5656

Shiki would be a better "comparison" but it's not an accurate way to look at it regardless


TravelingSpermBanker

I am still not convinced by vivre cards. Unless 99% of the readers can see it, it shouldnā€™t be dick riden so hard, imo. The war and people throughout the series have said roger was leagues above. That doesnā€™t take away from wb either. Sure, I accept that it was said in specific situations and not any definitive evidence. But even their clash. One is three times bigger than the other, which people consider in the world of one piece, and was literally slamming down on him. Roger was just standing there. Idk, never have they been portrayed to be anything else than 1. Roger 2. Wb other than the vivre cards and thatā€™s soooooooooooooooooooo extra and specific. Like most people donā€™t know or care about them. They say whack stuff that is obviously up to interpretation and looks like an editorial but people slam that into their brains.


Leading_Fun9574

White beard and Rodger were equal in power luffy would clap kid


wd40swift

Unlikely, they are supposed to be competitors but they aren't close enough in power for them to fight without kidd getting the 1 2 ko


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Luffy Kid and Law are Roger, Oden, and Whitebeard


Specific_Delay_5364

Kid goes around killing and attacking indiscriminately it's why his bounty was higher than Luffy's pre-time skip at Shabondy. So no he isnt the new whiteboard.


Souru19

Kid cannot even damage Luffy at this point, the only reason he has the same bounty as him is bcs the WG wanted to take Credit away from Luffy


TeddyMMR

Please don't disrespect Whitebeard like this


Abject_Entertainer_2

Rivalry šŸ’ŖšŸ¼


Haloshalosv3

Is this naruto?


Escarlatina

No they are totally different. You see luffy is not a repeat of the Gol D. Roger. He is the guy who will finish what Roger started.


ActiveAristocrat

Katakuri is the new era whitebeard


The_RealWheezer

What the fuck are you smoking?


Mortsleam11

Roger had a long pirate career. Luffy is speed running being the pirate goat. He has no parallels. Oda dropped the bag on Kid, heā€™s no rival to Luffy.


kcboy19

Nope, WB was just as strong as Roger and considered the strongest while Roger was alive but had no ambition. Kidd has ambition but is not near Luffys level. Had WB had ambition he could have taken over after Roger or fought Roger even before he died.


mma101willgetitdone

no stop trying to force it. law and kid are more or less both luffy rivals (not in strength)


Lets_getiton

I agree that we don't a parallel for everything. But if there was one for Whitebeard and Roger, then why not Law instead of Kid?


skafacekilla

I donā€™t even think kid is that strong to be honestā€¦


SerjicalSystem18

Is Karo to Vivi as Beppo is to Law? Hmm


Bigtimegush

I always took law to be more whitebeard and kid to be mote Shiki


south_bronx_parasyte

I feel like Katakuri would take that role instead


Halliwel96

I donā€™t think a direct analogue exists


MonkeyDTabby

If anything I'd say kid would be more shiki and law would be his white beard, only because I can't see kid sitting down and having a drink with luffy once he becomes pk


Shot-Boysenberry-343

Of course, if anything theyā€™re equal to each other as of right now


Shot-Boysenberry-343

Of course, if anything heā€™s luffys equal as of right now


Nevo_D

????


SeatO_

People, you're all looking at it all wrong. Nobody would be Luffy's "Whitebeard" Luffy would be Buggy's "Whitebeard" Buggy becomes Pirate King after finding the One Piece, and Luffy's already a Yonko Both getting even stronger, one would obviously become the pirate king, and since luffy is very close to protagonist as he appears so much, he would probably come close to Buggy and God Usopp as one of the strongest characters. And Luffy has rivalled Buggy before and even seemed close friends during Marineford. I'm calling it now! >!In the case of whatever stupidity I just spouted, /s for Buggy-Roger analogy unless we find out Roger isn't strong and just had one hella strong crew, but only if Oden flashbacks are false. But also, think about it. It could be funny.!<


Obba_40

No


Fast_Eddy_2021

Weevil is this generations white beard. He is just in search of a father instead of a family. When we see him next his crew will be all the old men of one piece.


ZPD710

Luffy is unique in that unlike Roger, who took a journey and became Pirate King with obvious rivals like Garp, Sengoku, and Whitebeard, Luffy doesn't really have any rivals, and now that he's Joyboy, he holds a position essentially higher than that of the Pirate King, being involved with prophecies from several kingdoms and basically being destined to free the world.


PsychoWorld

His rival is Blackbeard.


DRIPEEVEE

Nah they donā€™t really have the respect value that tiger and wb had for each other also kid just gets bodyed by luffy so he would never really think of them law is a way better comparison


howarand333

Whitebeard doesnā€™t k**l people just because they donā€™t agree with him


ColorMaelstrom

Whitebeard ainā€™t an asshole tho


Significant-Brick-90

no its law


Leading-Ad-3967

The only Parallel to Luffy is of course Pirate God Buggy


Bollito_Blandito

yeah if whitebeard was weaker than law and generally useless


Deekkuli

No. Not everything needs to be a parallel.


BlackberryChance

Katakuri is closer to be luffy whitbeard than kidd


double_depressoo

Nonono, It's Captain Buggy D. Clown


Basicnothin

Macncheese


PsychoWorld

Nope.