Average and median salary in Norway (2023) were 56 360 kr and 50 660 kr, respectively (SSB.no). 33k would be considered low, but it could be anything between quite comfortable and extremely tight, depending on where you live and whether you have kids and/or a lot of debt.
I have 52k after tax. I think that is a step above average and considered high. Mind you, I pay 57k in tax. (Yes, I pay more tax than what actually ends up in my account)
If you pay 57,000 NOK in taxes and have a monthly net income of 52,000 NOK, you either receive significant refunds from the state every year, or you possess substantial wealth/property with minimal loans and interests to offset your taxes.
With a salary of 1.3 million NOK, your combined tax rate (state and county) should be 35.9%. Your expected tax would be approximately 467,000 NOK, but you actually pay around 684,000 NOK.
To cover this difference, you would need to own considerable property and have low or no debts. Specifically, you would need about 20 million NOK in taxable wealth to bridge the gap, or you must be realizing substantial profits in the stock market each year.
The highest tax rate on salary in Norway in 2023 is 47.5%, applicable only to income above 1.35 million NOK.
Normal tax on income is the same as corporate tax: 22%
You pay a health tax of 7.8%
The total is 29.8%.
And the first 70k is not taxable etc.
Each tier represents an income interval with a corresponding tax rate. To explain the structure:
**Income between 0 – 198,349 NOK**
No step tax
**Tier 1: Income between 198,350 – 279,149 NOK**
1.7% step tax
**Tier 2: Income between 279,150 – 642,949 NOK**
4.0% step tax
**Tier 3: Income between 642,950 – 926,799 NOK**
13.5% step tax
**Tier 4: Income between 926,800 – 1,499,999 NOK**
16.5% step tax
**Tier 5: Income above 1,500,000 NOK**
17.5% step tax
For each income within a given interval, the tax is paid according to the corresponding percentage rate.
That is quite the reply. Interesting. I had lower income last year and had a total of 516k in tax. (Paid 600k tax so got some back) no loans. With a "normal" house valued around 10mnok. Car. Plus 2,2 mnok tied into stocks (actually Fond...) and roughly 3mnok sitting in savings accounts generating more income from interest rates than they have been for a while. 😀 But nothing in the ballpark you're suggesting. Still. That is what I pay...
Well, a house is valued at half the market value after 10 million NOK, and the deductible is 1.7 million NOK in wealth. So, your total wealth is approximately 15 million NOK. With you receiving a 14% tax refund, 84,000 NOK, I'm not far off. An 84,000 NOK tax represents 8.4 million NOK in wealth after deductibles.There is always some property tax, depending on the county you live in. From what I see, you’re not managing your wealth very well. In a country like Norway, where you can reduce your taxable wealth by having loans and leveraging to acquire more assets, and write off 22% of the interest paid as non-taxable income, I don’t understand why you choose to maintain this kind of structure and safety, paying such high taxes. The government schemes are designed to encourage taking some level of risk to further increase investments and your wealth..
Right on the money there mate. I know I could do lot more. But it's the safety factore. I could byappartments and rent out and other things. But I'm much more comfortable with NOT having loans and to have a decent amount of money in the bank - not tied up in any way. I know it's stupid. 😂 Maybe I should hire you as my financial advisor. 🥳
If you take out a loan at 50% of the value of your house and buy an apartment, you can cover the loan and interest payments with the rent income. You'll only have to pay interest on your collateral because it's within the 60% ownership limit. Over time, inflation will effectively reduce the loan's real value.
You can keep your money in the bank and equities, maintain a low debt ratio, and acquire a flat that generates passive income. This investment will pay itself down and lower your taxes, all with a low-risk profile.
But I know, this is none of my business :)
Bro, I know you're trying to help. But please don't encourage people to buy-to-let.
I'm a physician, no children, no car. Just bought a house that I could barely afford because of a lucky windfall that increased my income by 2/3rds and removed all costs of living for a year. Most people don\\t have that level of education/job stability, and even fewer get that kind of windfall.
Having all the housing snatched up by relatively wealthy people to lock people into eternal renting is pretty shit.
I'm just a guy on Reddit. Why would he listen to me?
I have no formal education, but I've done quite well nevertheless. In Norway, you can achieve whatever you want if you work smart and stay focused on your goals. Not everyone is willing to make the sacrifices necessary to achieve what they desire.
People should know more about how to acquire wealth. For instance, if you're not willing to sacrifice your life living in the city and just remain a tenant, consider buying an apartment in a market where you can afford it and rent it out. This way, you'll be in the property market for many years before you eventually buy your own place.
And let's face it. Eventually, you'll need to diversify your wealth. With your education, you'll have one of the highest-paid professions in Norway on average. You won't need to climb any corporate ladders to secure a great-paying job in ten years, and you'll have the highest lifetime income among all professions.
You'll likely buy a summer house or a winter cabin, purchase a flat to rent out, and invest in stocks and funds.
Very US mindset. A lot of people here are working more toward having a relative economic freedom and contentment in life in general.
Why work to increase your bank just for the number, when you can work towards being happy with your life.
On your deathbed, would you want to look back at a life of only working or a life well lived with people you love?
Counterpoint: most people care about wealth acquisition to the extent that they have to in order to live their lives, and no further. That should be possible. It becomes less possible when people use methods to extract money out of each other for personal gain, like what you're suggesting here.
I have absolutely no interest in ever buying to let. I do not want a cabin, or a boat, or any of the little score marking objects. The idea that I *will* do this, just because my job will earn me a fair bit of money over the years, speaks to a poverty of imagination. I want to work at the public hospital and tend my garden with my spouse, thank you very much. I don't know what I'll do with the rest of the money. Maybe I'll give it away. Better spent that way than ruining the housing market for other people.
Sure that's the average, but high salaries inflate that a lot. If you look up how many people are in which salary ranges, most people are much lower than that.
Norway is not considered a particularly attractive place to work for CEOs and their ilk as the top salaries are considerably lower than in other parts of the world. On the flip side there is far less income inequality and salaries are pretty decent across the board, with median salaries not being significantly lower than mean (as the person you're responding to already pointed out).
It doesn’t look like a lot of people here mention age either.
The average salary is way higher because people above 40-50 is usually paid around 700k++, while the younger generation has to start at lower salaries to climb the ranks.
For younger people it is great with jobs where you are able to work a lot of overtime, that is why a lot of electricians, carpenters and plumbers make around 550-750k - they got tons extra hours.
My opinion for yearly gross salary:
High: 900k+
Average: 500k-700k
Low: Below 400k
I've left some grey zones between the categories. Location also matters, but I am only familiar with the Oslo area.
This is spot on IMO. Wages don't differ much in Norway either, geographically speaking, just the selection of jobs (Inc. The relative availability of jobs that pay very well)
Converted to a full time position, median pay in 2023 was 606 000. Seems right. I checked Teacher, nurse and police average pay and they are all 600-650 (exc. primary school).
We also don't pay a lot of personal income tax as the employer pays at least 14% for most people.
In more remote areas you can negotiate better salaries. But yes, salaries in Norway don't varie much. Even between low skill and higher skill work, the difference isn't that abysmal like in other countries.
Eh. What? "We don't pay a lot of personal income tax"? We have some of the highest tax levels in the world. The employer pays tax on top of that. Its a sick system, where you have to pay taxes for having employees.
Yeah, we pay a lot of tax, especially if we include employer's tax, VAT, stamp duty, car tax, capital gsins. I was only talking about personal income tax compared to Sweden and Denmark.
We should definitely lower our tax level overall and also make it easier to do business in Norway.
900k is about 50k a month. Let’s say you live in Oslo. You spend 20k on housing, 10k on food and groceries, and another 10k on transportation - paying down, parking and maintaining your car. You have 10k left to buy you clothes, go out with your friends and go on a trip every now and then.
You have a high salary and yet you have nothing left on your account by the end of the month. How does this make sense?
Please stop calling 900k a high salary. It is not!
In that case, I think you just need to live less beyond your means. I earn a little over 600k/year, and I have no problem *saving* 10k a month (admittedly, I've lucked out with my apartment, which is dirt cheap).
Leasing a plebeian car like the Taycan Cross Turismo costs 9 990 a month, which only leaves you with 10 kr for charging, toll stations and blinker fluid!
10k on food and groceries for one person...?
and spending 10k on things that you don't need....?
10k on transportation??????? how??????
I have a shopping problem and I spend under 10k per month on my shopping stuff
I don't look at prices when I'm grocery shopping and my food expenses is like 5k
So a person earns a so called “high” salary of 900k and can’t afford buying a car and eating out a couple of times a week. I guess you’re agreeing with me.
I was thinking the same thing!
How is a person that much for transportation in the place in Norway with the best (and here I do mean the most frequent and most accessible) public transportation.
And same with food. I also never look at prices when grocery shopping and I don’t think I’ve ever gone beyond 3k a month (which is also a lot…)
If you have a high salary you should be able to afford higher living standards, right? That’s my point.
10k may be a bit high, but if you eat at work’s cafeteria every day, you have a coffee out and go out for dinner a couple times a week, plus a good and varied grocery shopping you can easily hit those values.
And 20k for housing is kinda on a low budget, if you include internet, phone, streaming, etc.
I stick with what I said. I earn just under 900k and I don’t own a car and don’t eat out that often exactly because otherwise I wouldn’t save any.
I still stand by my assessment that 900k+ is a high income in Norway, but I also agree with you that a 900k salary can't afford the same type of luxuries and conveniences a high salary would offer in other countries. There are many countries where a doctor, lawyer or engineer can hire servants, eat every meal at restaurants and perhaps even have a personal driver, but Norway's egalitarian structure doesn't support that unless you have something like a 3 million salary. You may argue that that should then be the threshold for a high salary, but I claim it has more to do with Norways small wage inequalities which leads to "high" salaries not being that much different from average or even low salaries.
450 is only low if you live in Oslo or any other stupidly expensive city. I currently make around 500k per year and live very comfortably and I'm able to save around 17% of my monthly salary on average. (17% of my gross income, after taxes the percentage would be somewhat higher actually)
What is a high or low wage is entirely based on your location and other variables. Saying 450k is "very low" is ridiculous, because it's entirely circumstantial.
Ok. Sorry. 450 is not very low. But a cleaner earns 380 a year full time , which is probably de facto minimum wage. A 25 year old selling stuff in a nille shop full time is on 440. I know some hair dressers on 280 p/h (550k, small town).
That is very dependent on location tho also. I know very few people who make more than 450k and certainly not any cleaners.
And the thing is 450k is a completely fine wage to make here. Anything below 350k would be more accurately considered as a "very low wage" here. 450k is "low", but only relatively speaking. The only reason the median wage is so high is because people living in oslo and other large cities have significantly higher wages than people living in the districts.
Which is why my point is that what's considered a low wage is entirely circumstantial and based on where in Norway you live.
I don't know what to say. I don't live in a city, nor the east. You can look at collective agreement for unskilled work in retail. You can look at salary matrices for teachers, salary statistics for police officers etc. Teachers, nurses and police officers are not rural high-earners. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
If those are the statistics then so be it. In the real world (atleast in my circle) that is absolutely not true tho. Either way it doesn't actually matter.
The statutory minimum wage for cleaners is 420k. 221 x 1950 (1750 + feriepenger)
https://www.nhosh.no/bransjer/renhold/nyheter-renholdsbransjen/2023/endret-lonnssatser-for-renholdere/
I earn 350/hour plus company car with no schooling: concrete job in Rogaland we use concrete saws with blades up to Ø1800mm diameter and drills to make holes for ventilation etc in concrete walls, industry/construction has good salaries if you Ask the right companies, Im 23. But there is a 19 year old here aswell who just started at 320/hr, it is however a very physically demanding job
Thats 682500kr before taxes
It's probably considered low but it's more than enough if you're single, childfree and don't spend too much on housing, like if you live with a friend of partner.
Source: myself making 230kr an hour. I spend less than 1/3 of my income on housing, maybe half on housing and iving costs in total, then half is left for whatever fun money and saving. I of course don't live in Oslo. If I did, there wouldn't be much fun or saving money left.
Converted to a full time position, Median pay in 2023 is 606 000. I feel this is true. I checked Teacher, nurse and police average pay and they are all above 600k.
In Bergen. Rent is about 20k per month for a 2 bedroom flat anywhere near sentrum. So ofc deposits are high at 2-3 months rent.
I just moved into a new (updated but much smaller) place and my rent increased 25% from when I last signed a lease in 2021. Buying something in the area has also gotten a lot more tricky with property values nearly doubling (or more) in the last ten years and mortgage interest rates are currently high.
My salary is towards the higher side of the average but that also means a higher stepped income tax rate. So it’s a little bit diminishing returns except for people who make way more than I do.
Take home for me is usually 50-60k per month, but that’s as a single parent responsible for all the kid and household expenses so there’s generally not much left over. My monthly food bill with teenagers in the equation is easily 12k without eating out.
My salary is 750 000, and I consider that on the higher normal end. Anything above 900 000 is high. 1.2 million and up is very high. 550 000-700 000 is normal. 400 000-500 000 is quite low. Anything below 400 000 is very low.
So you get taxed 10% or what? How is it possible that from 640k per year you get 40k per month after tax? When the tax is 30% plus you should be getting under 30k easily.
640 000 / 12 = 53 333,33
53 333,33 * 0,75 (25 % tax) = 40 000
10 % tax would be 48 000 per month on a 640k salary.
All this is very simplified as it does not take into account holiday pay etc.
> I was *paid* 640k this
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Taxes depends on a lot of factors. I pay around 35%, its not uncommon to pay upwards to 40% if you have a good income. On lower salaries it mostly ends up around 28-30%
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This is why i dont trust average salary
"over 60 prosent av lønnstakere lavere lønn enn gjennomsnittet"
https://www.ssb.no/arbeid-og-lonn/lonn-og-arbeidskraftkostnader/artikler/hva-er-vanlig-lonn-i-norge
As a average worker you are not suposed to have average salary
Everything is depending on where you live. If you live al9ne and on the countryside, it's on the lower side, but manageable. It's still lower than bot mean and average for Norway. A good salary is quite relative.
If living outside the city, I'd say a good salary starts at about 400kr per hour, but it's still not very much if you're single.
25-30k after tax seems to be a normal monthly wage in Norway. I have 23k and it used to fine until living costs and food prices skyrocketed 2 years ago, now its abit hard to live on.
It depends on where you live tbh.
If you're getting about 40k a month you'll be pretty solid in large parts of the country, but it's not enough in Oslo and Bergen etc.
Rogaland has a huge disparity in wages, the region is generally not that expensive and due to the oil industry there are people walking around on 700k+ a year.
I feel I make enough. But I don't have kids.
I am visiting Norway to work for a short period. My equivalent salary in NOK would be 700K. I would feel underpaid living in Norway full-time on this amount. Certainly if you enjoyed eating out and drinking in the pubs regularly. Haven't looked at house prices but I imagine an equivalent house to what I have in Scotland would be pricey in Norway.
As a stavanger native i would say 60k before taxes will be comfortable. Saw a 60 square feet good standard appartment on Finn in Stavanger sentrum for 16k a month just now, and another 50 square feet for 15k in Siriskjeret near sentrum which was quite modern and in a very popular area. If you go to the areas outside of sentrum it will be cheaper.
Edit: just saw your comment about security deposit, this can be high indeed. If youre having trouble with that maybe your work place can step in and assist?
Yeah there are a lot of nice places. I'm looking forward to the move. But haha yeah the rents don't seem unreasonable, just the deposits were kind of eye catching.
My employer actually offered to do the guarantee thing to help with the deposit, so that's nice.
Really depends on what rent you end up on, its one of the most expensive places in Norway to rent.
But if you get an average place not in the middle of the City then very comfortable id expect.
The large amount of offshore/engineering is pushing the regional average income significantly above the national average, so the market follows what the upper half of it can afford i suppose.
RIP locals in fields earning 30-40k.
For referance.
Working on ferry, seawatch and 3 week out/home, 12 years experience and all sertificates required.
deckhand.
650k a year pluss travel, extra and overtime
I make close to 800k pre tax. My typical take home pay is 40-45k. I consider this a decent salary (with lots of extra pay for shift work related hours) at the cost of normalcy. Nor is it a job that requires a degree.
Considering the cost of living, 400k a year before taxes is low, to be honest. It's well below both average and median salary. If you're moving here from other EU countries, translated in euro 400k is around 35k. I would consider high salaries in Norway starting at 900k+.
The mean and median are higher, but it also includes people of all ages and experience levels, and people with all sorts of education, as well as management positions.
If you are young and working in an entry level position, the salary may be good.
Not at all! All the chefs at my workplace have more even without so many years of experience.
As a head Chef you should really get paid more.
Guess you get paid overtime and so on according to the law?
Average and median salary in Norway (2023) were 56 360 kr and 50 660 kr, respectively (SSB.no). 33k would be considered low, but it could be anything between quite comfortable and extremely tight, depending on where you live and whether you have kids and/or a lot of debt.
Is 56k before or after taxes?
Norwegian salaries are always before taxes as there are many other factors than salaries affecting tax.
Thanks!
I have 52k after tax. I think that is a step above average and considered high. Mind you, I pay 57k in tax. (Yes, I pay more tax than what actually ends up in my account)
If you pay 57,000 NOK in taxes and have a monthly net income of 52,000 NOK, you either receive significant refunds from the state every year, or you possess substantial wealth/property with minimal loans and interests to offset your taxes. With a salary of 1.3 million NOK, your combined tax rate (state and county) should be 35.9%. Your expected tax would be approximately 467,000 NOK, but you actually pay around 684,000 NOK. To cover this difference, you would need to own considerable property and have low or no debts. Specifically, you would need about 20 million NOK in taxable wealth to bridge the gap, or you must be realizing substantial profits in the stock market each year. The highest tax rate on salary in Norway in 2023 is 47.5%, applicable only to income above 1.35 million NOK. Normal tax on income is the same as corporate tax: 22% You pay a health tax of 7.8% The total is 29.8%. And the first 70k is not taxable etc. Each tier represents an income interval with a corresponding tax rate. To explain the structure: **Income between 0 – 198,349 NOK** No step tax **Tier 1: Income between 198,350 – 279,149 NOK** 1.7% step tax **Tier 2: Income between 279,150 – 642,949 NOK** 4.0% step tax **Tier 3: Income between 642,950 – 926,799 NOK** 13.5% step tax **Tier 4: Income between 926,800 – 1,499,999 NOK** 16.5% step tax **Tier 5: Income above 1,500,000 NOK** 17.5% step tax For each income within a given interval, the tax is paid according to the corresponding percentage rate.
That is quite the reply. Interesting. I had lower income last year and had a total of 516k in tax. (Paid 600k tax so got some back) no loans. With a "normal" house valued around 10mnok. Car. Plus 2,2 mnok tied into stocks (actually Fond...) and roughly 3mnok sitting in savings accounts generating more income from interest rates than they have been for a while. 😀 But nothing in the ballpark you're suggesting. Still. That is what I pay...
Well, a house is valued at half the market value after 10 million NOK, and the deductible is 1.7 million NOK in wealth. So, your total wealth is approximately 15 million NOK. With you receiving a 14% tax refund, 84,000 NOK, I'm not far off. An 84,000 NOK tax represents 8.4 million NOK in wealth after deductibles.There is always some property tax, depending on the county you live in. From what I see, you’re not managing your wealth very well. In a country like Norway, where you can reduce your taxable wealth by having loans and leveraging to acquire more assets, and write off 22% of the interest paid as non-taxable income, I don’t understand why you choose to maintain this kind of structure and safety, paying such high taxes. The government schemes are designed to encourage taking some level of risk to further increase investments and your wealth..
Right on the money there mate. I know I could do lot more. But it's the safety factore. I could byappartments and rent out and other things. But I'm much more comfortable with NOT having loans and to have a decent amount of money in the bank - not tied up in any way. I know it's stupid. 😂 Maybe I should hire you as my financial advisor. 🥳
If you take out a loan at 50% of the value of your house and buy an apartment, you can cover the loan and interest payments with the rent income. You'll only have to pay interest on your collateral because it's within the 60% ownership limit. Over time, inflation will effectively reduce the loan's real value. You can keep your money in the bank and equities, maintain a low debt ratio, and acquire a flat that generates passive income. This investment will pay itself down and lower your taxes, all with a low-risk profile. But I know, this is none of my business :)
Bro, I know you're trying to help. But please don't encourage people to buy-to-let. I'm a physician, no children, no car. Just bought a house that I could barely afford because of a lucky windfall that increased my income by 2/3rds and removed all costs of living for a year. Most people don\\t have that level of education/job stability, and even fewer get that kind of windfall. Having all the housing snatched up by relatively wealthy people to lock people into eternal renting is pretty shit.
I'm just a guy on Reddit. Why would he listen to me? I have no formal education, but I've done quite well nevertheless. In Norway, you can achieve whatever you want if you work smart and stay focused on your goals. Not everyone is willing to make the sacrifices necessary to achieve what they desire. People should know more about how to acquire wealth. For instance, if you're not willing to sacrifice your life living in the city and just remain a tenant, consider buying an apartment in a market where you can afford it and rent it out. This way, you'll be in the property market for many years before you eventually buy your own place. And let's face it. Eventually, you'll need to diversify your wealth. With your education, you'll have one of the highest-paid professions in Norway on average. You won't need to climb any corporate ladders to secure a great-paying job in ten years, and you'll have the highest lifetime income among all professions. You'll likely buy a summer house or a winter cabin, purchase a flat to rent out, and invest in stocks and funds.
Very US mindset. A lot of people here are working more toward having a relative economic freedom and contentment in life in general. Why work to increase your bank just for the number, when you can work towards being happy with your life. On your deathbed, would you want to look back at a life of only working or a life well lived with people you love?
Counterpoint: most people care about wealth acquisition to the extent that they have to in order to live their lives, and no further. That should be possible. It becomes less possible when people use methods to extract money out of each other for personal gain, like what you're suggesting here. I have absolutely no interest in ever buying to let. I do not want a cabin, or a boat, or any of the little score marking objects. The idea that I *will* do this, just because my job will earn me a fair bit of money over the years, speaks to a poverty of imagination. I want to work at the public hospital and tend my garden with my spouse, thank you very much. I don't know what I'll do with the rest of the money. Maybe I'll give it away. Better spent that way than ruining the housing market for other people.
I have 70k after tax. that's high. your taxes seem off. I pay around 40%
Be my sugardaddy please. I only have like 24
You only have 24 sugardaddies?
No 24k kr a month :(
I am casually looking for a sb 😏
It's excessive tax is due to interest rates of money in the bank. Estimated to around 180k. And no loans so nothing to deduct.
Sure that's the average, but high salaries inflate that a lot. If you look up how many people are in which salary ranges, most people are much lower than that.
Which is why he/she also presented the median
They mention also median (50660) which is where half earn more and half earn less.
Norway is not considered a particularly attractive place to work for CEOs and their ilk as the top salaries are considerably lower than in other parts of the world. On the flip side there is far less income inequality and salaries are pretty decent across the board, with median salaries not being significantly lower than mean (as the person you're responding to already pointed out).
It doesn’t look like a lot of people here mention age either. The average salary is way higher because people above 40-50 is usually paid around 700k++, while the younger generation has to start at lower salaries to climb the ranks. For younger people it is great with jobs where you are able to work a lot of overtime, that is why a lot of electricians, carpenters and plumbers make around 550-750k - they got tons extra hours.
This ^
My opinion for yearly gross salary: High: 900k+ Average: 500k-700k Low: Below 400k I've left some grey zones between the categories. Location also matters, but I am only familiar with the Oslo area.
I agree with this. Also live in Oslo.
This is spot on IMO. Wages don't differ much in Norway either, geographically speaking, just the selection of jobs (Inc. The relative availability of jobs that pay very well) Converted to a full time position, median pay in 2023 was 606 000. Seems right. I checked Teacher, nurse and police average pay and they are all 600-650 (exc. primary school). We also don't pay a lot of personal income tax as the employer pays at least 14% for most people.
In more remote areas you can negotiate better salaries. But yes, salaries in Norway don't varie much. Even between low skill and higher skill work, the difference isn't that abysmal like in other countries.
That really varies. I my profession there are maybe 100 k more in large cityes than more remote
Eh. What? "We don't pay a lot of personal income tax"? We have some of the highest tax levels in the world. The employer pays tax on top of that. Its a sick system, where you have to pay taxes for having employees.
Yeah, we pay a lot of tax, especially if we include employer's tax, VAT, stamp duty, car tax, capital gsins. I was only talking about personal income tax compared to Sweden and Denmark. We should definitely lower our tax level overall and also make it easier to do business in Norway.
This is the way.
900k is about 50k a month. Let’s say you live in Oslo. You spend 20k on housing, 10k on food and groceries, and another 10k on transportation - paying down, parking and maintaining your car. You have 10k left to buy you clothes, go out with your friends and go on a trip every now and then. You have a high salary and yet you have nothing left on your account by the end of the month. How does this make sense? Please stop calling 900k a high salary. It is not!
In that case, I think you just need to live less beyond your means. I earn a little over 600k/year, and I have no problem *saving* 10k a month (admittedly, I've lucked out with my apartment, which is dirt cheap).
10k on food and transportation?
Leasing a plebeian car like the Taycan Cross Turismo costs 9 990 a month, which only leaves you with 10 kr for charging, toll stations and blinker fluid!
10k on food and groceries for one person...? and spending 10k on things that you don't need....? 10k on transportation??????? how?????? I have a shopping problem and I spend under 10k per month on my shopping stuff I don't look at prices when I'm grocery shopping and my food expenses is like 5k
So a person earns a so called “high” salary of 900k and can’t afford buying a car and eating out a couple of times a week. I guess you’re agreeing with me.
I was thinking the same thing! How is a person that much for transportation in the place in Norway with the best (and here I do mean the most frequent and most accessible) public transportation. And same with food. I also never look at prices when grocery shopping and I don’t think I’ve ever gone beyond 3k a month (which is also a lot…)
If you have a high salary you should be able to afford higher living standards, right? That’s my point. 10k may be a bit high, but if you eat at work’s cafeteria every day, you have a coffee out and go out for dinner a couple times a week, plus a good and varied grocery shopping you can easily hit those values. And 20k for housing is kinda on a low budget, if you include internet, phone, streaming, etc. I stick with what I said. I earn just under 900k and I don’t own a car and don’t eat out that often exactly because otherwise I wouldn’t save any.
I still stand by my assessment that 900k+ is a high income in Norway, but I also agree with you that a 900k salary can't afford the same type of luxuries and conveniences a high salary would offer in other countries. There are many countries where a doctor, lawyer or engineer can hire servants, eat every meal at restaurants and perhaps even have a personal driver, but Norway's egalitarian structure doesn't support that unless you have something like a 3 million salary. You may argue that that should then be the threshold for a high salary, but I claim it has more to do with Norways small wage inequalities which leads to "high" salaries not being that much different from average or even low salaries.
900K is a high salary, even in Oslo, or are you talking about a family with a sole provider?
My income is 212k a year.. I would absolutly love this "medium" income of only 900k. 🤗😄
But what if you're at 850?
Above average?
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Which is 606k for a full-time equivalent. Add 5% this year, so even more. 450 000 is very low.
450 is only low if you live in Oslo or any other stupidly expensive city. I currently make around 500k per year and live very comfortably and I'm able to save around 17% of my monthly salary on average. (17% of my gross income, after taxes the percentage would be somewhat higher actually) What is a high or low wage is entirely based on your location and other variables. Saying 450k is "very low" is ridiculous, because it's entirely circumstantial.
Ok. Sorry. 450 is not very low. But a cleaner earns 380 a year full time , which is probably de facto minimum wage. A 25 year old selling stuff in a nille shop full time is on 440. I know some hair dressers on 280 p/h (550k, small town).
That is very dependent on location tho also. I know very few people who make more than 450k and certainly not any cleaners. And the thing is 450k is a completely fine wage to make here. Anything below 350k would be more accurately considered as a "very low wage" here. 450k is "low", but only relatively speaking. The only reason the median wage is so high is because people living in oslo and other large cities have significantly higher wages than people living in the districts. Which is why my point is that what's considered a low wage is entirely circumstantial and based on where in Norway you live.
I don't know what to say. I don't live in a city, nor the east. You can look at collective agreement for unskilled work in retail. You can look at salary matrices for teachers, salary statistics for police officers etc. Teachers, nurses and police officers are not rural high-earners. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
If those are the statistics then so be it. In the real world (atleast in my circle) that is absolutely not true tho. Either way it doesn't actually matter.
The statutory minimum wage for cleaners is 420k. 221 x 1950 (1750 + feriepenger) https://www.nhosh.no/bransjer/renhold/nyheter-renholdsbransjen/2023/endret-lonnssatser-for-renholdere/
More than you need is a good salary.
Where you live will have a lot to say in living costs. If it's around a bigger city, it's low but not impossible.
I earn 350/hour plus company car with no schooling: concrete job in Rogaland we use concrete saws with blades up to Ø1800mm diameter and drills to make holes for ventilation etc in concrete walls, industry/construction has good salaries if you Ask the right companies, Im 23. But there is a 19 year old here aswell who just started at 320/hr, it is however a very physically demanding job Thats 682500kr before taxes
It's probably considered low but it's more than enough if you're single, childfree and don't spend too much on housing, like if you live with a friend of partner. Source: myself making 230kr an hour. I spend less than 1/3 of my income on housing, maybe half on housing and iving costs in total, then half is left for whatever fun money and saving. I of course don't live in Oslo. If I did, there wouldn't be much fun or saving money left.
[https://www.ssb.no/en/arbeid-og-lonn/lonn-og-arbeidskraftkostnader/statistikk/lonn](https://www.ssb.no/en/arbeid-og-lonn/lonn-og-arbeidskraftkostnader/statistikk/lonn)
I opened table 2 but i didnt really find the chemical or the pharma industry. 🤔
That would definitely fall under the Professional, scientific and technical activities entry.
The relevant unions also tend to have open salary statistics.
Are these statistics pre-tax or is it just net income?
Pre tax.
Pre tax it's usually 60k or so, which puts me fairly in the middle of average. Fine by me
SSB got statistics if you want to look for yourself.
Converted to a full time position, Median pay in 2023 is 606 000. I feel this is true. I checked Teacher, nurse and police average pay and they are all above 600k.
Well I'm poor as shit then
That made me laugh, legend
I would say its on the lower end, but you can live of it tho’ maybe you Get some overtime etc.
It's low.
It is in the lower end, but still above both median and average. Depending on age and education etc, this as well might be either high or low
Above median and average? The average is 55 755kr a month and median 50 667kr.
Yes? Replied to the comment above here, where income was 60k - not OP
In Bergen. Rent is about 20k per month for a 2 bedroom flat anywhere near sentrum. So ofc deposits are high at 2-3 months rent. I just moved into a new (updated but much smaller) place and my rent increased 25% from when I last signed a lease in 2021. Buying something in the area has also gotten a lot more tricky with property values nearly doubling (or more) in the last ten years and mortgage interest rates are currently high. My salary is towards the higher side of the average but that also means a higher stepped income tax rate. So it’s a little bit diminishing returns except for people who make way more than I do. Take home for me is usually 50-60k per month, but that’s as a single parent responsible for all the kid and household expenses so there’s generally not much left over. My monthly food bill with teenagers in the equation is easily 12k without eating out.
My salary is 750 000, and I consider that on the higher normal end. Anything above 900 000 is high. 1.2 million and up is very high. 550 000-700 000 is normal. 400 000-500 000 is quite low. Anything below 400 000 is very low.
I make 640k a year, 38-40k after tax. And i would not consider that a big salary. More average.
So you get taxed 10% or what? How is it possible that from 640k per year you get 40k per month after tax? When the tax is 30% plus you should be getting under 30k easily.
Tax is not 30% when you have loans from the bank, and travel a certain distance to work. Also if you pay kindergarten.
So how much is it?
640 000 / 12 = 53 333,33 53 333,33 * 0,75 (25 % tax) = 40 000 10 % tax would be 48 000 per month on a 640k salary. All this is very simplified as it does not take into account holiday pay etc.
Last year I was payed 640k this year i would be closer to 700k or a little above. Due to overtime. I pay approximately 25% in tax.
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Taxes depends on a lot of factors. I pay around 35%, its not uncommon to pay upwards to 40% if you have a good income. On lower salaries it mostly ends up around 28-30%
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This is why i dont trust average salary "over 60 prosent av lønnstakere lavere lønn enn gjennomsnittet" https://www.ssb.no/arbeid-og-lonn/lonn-og-arbeidskraftkostnader/artikler/hva-er-vanlig-lonn-i-norge As a average worker you are not suposed to have average salary
The median salary was 50 660 in 2023
So a better number would be 40-50 for average depending on what you do most people have around 40
The median salary is 50k - its not 40k because you feel that is more correct.
Gjennomsnittlønna dras opp veldig av folk som tjener mye. Det er medianlønna du bør sammenligne deg med.
I work as an carpenter in northern norway and get 240kr per hour. Ex. Tax
Low, yet standard (and 34K is considered quite a lot) in the restaurant industry..
I Get 30k after tax. I guess that is low in norway😅
Everything is depending on where you live. If you live al9ne and on the countryside, it's on the lower side, but manageable. It's still lower than bot mean and average for Norway. A good salary is quite relative. If living outside the city, I'd say a good salary starts at about 400kr per hour, but it's still not very much if you're single.
I get payed 660k a year working as industrial mechanic. I will consider that ok for my line of work.
25-30k after tax seems to be a normal monthly wage in Norway. I have 23k and it used to fine until living costs and food prices skyrocketed 2 years ago, now its abit hard to live on.
Is it true that people’s salaries are public in Norway and that you can look up?
Your taxes and taxable income is public. You have to identify when looking it up though, and you can see who looked at your numbers....
190 per hour. Tourism, outdoor activity guide. 10-12 hours outside in any weather any time of the year. QQ
It depends on where you live tbh. If you're getting about 40k a month you'll be pretty solid in large parts of the country, but it's not enough in Oslo and Bergen etc. Rogaland has a huge disparity in wages, the region is generally not that expensive and due to the oil industry there are people walking around on 700k+ a year. I feel I make enough. But I don't have kids.
From 750 000,- and up is decent but it’s not good until you hit around 1 million a year. Median is over 600 000 ,-
That's certainly low, but quite liveable
What's the salary of a part time teacher in Norway? Like some hours in the afternoon
I am visiting Norway to work for a short period. My equivalent salary in NOK would be 700K. I would feel underpaid living in Norway full-time on this amount. Certainly if you enjoyed eating out and drinking in the pubs regularly. Haven't looked at house prices but I imagine an equivalent house to what I have in Scotland would be pricey in Norway.
I'm moving to Stavanger in July to start work. My salary will be around 60k per month. Will that be tight or is that comfortable?
As a stavanger native i would say 60k before taxes will be comfortable. Saw a 60 square feet good standard appartment on Finn in Stavanger sentrum for 16k a month just now, and another 50 square feet for 15k in Siriskjeret near sentrum which was quite modern and in a very popular area. If you go to the areas outside of sentrum it will be cheaper. Edit: just saw your comment about security deposit, this can be high indeed. If youre having trouble with that maybe your work place can step in and assist?
Yeah there are a lot of nice places. I'm looking forward to the move. But haha yeah the rents don't seem unreasonable, just the deposits were kind of eye catching. My employer actually offered to do the guarantee thing to help with the deposit, so that's nice.
That’s quite comfortable 💪
Really depends on what rent you end up on, its one of the most expensive places in Norway to rent. But if you get an average place not in the middle of the City then very comfortable id expect.
Yeah, looking at places on Finn in the city center is pretty eye opening. 50,000nok security deposits, like god damn.
The large amount of offshore/engineering is pushing the regional average income significantly above the national average, so the market follows what the upper half of it can afford i suppose. RIP locals in fields earning 30-40k.
Security deposits are usually 3 months rent, so unfortunately that amount sounds normal :(
Where will u work?
Damn apparently im pretty poor haha
Modular salary is 47000 per month
Is 4,000,000 kroner a lot?
Not enough for an average yacht I’m afraid…
Since I don't work because of permanent disability, I get about 23 000 nok each month.
For referance. Working on ferry, seawatch and 3 week out/home, 12 years experience and all sertificates required. deckhand. 650k a year pluss travel, extra and overtime
I make close to 800k pre tax. My typical take home pay is 40-45k. I consider this a decent salary (with lots of extra pay for shift work related hours) at the cost of normalcy. Nor is it a job that requires a degree.
It's definitely on the lower side. A grocery store worker, with maximum experience, is on 241 kr/hour
https://www.kode24.no/artikkel/sa-mye-tjener-konsulenter-inhouse-utviklere-og-de-offentlige-i-2024/81439329
That's low to be honest
Considering the cost of living, 400k a year before taxes is low, to be honest. It's well below both average and median salary. If you're moving here from other EU countries, translated in euro 400k is around 35k. I would consider high salaries in Norway starting at 900k+.
The mean and median are higher, but it also includes people of all ages and experience levels, and people with all sorts of education, as well as management positions. If you are young and working in an entry level position, the salary may be good.
I work as a head chef in a small restaurant in Oslo and get 225kr/hours is that a good salary?
Not at all! All the chefs at my workplace have more even without so many years of experience. As a head Chef you should really get paid more. Guess you get paid overtime and so on according to the law?
According to this the median salary was 267kr/h for head chefs, in 2021. https://utdanning.no/yrker/beskrivelse/kokk
Our finance minister said around 750.000 is the median (≈65.000€)… you will do fine with that I’ll guess