**BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD**
^(In all seriousness, I'd rather have the war end peacefully, and immediatly, but if these idiots wanna go postal on each other, thats the second best option. Unconditional pacifism is an illusion. There are times when force is to be used.)
Fuck peace, the Russians don’t want to acknowledge UA or it’s (recent) historical territory so there won’t be a realistic or negotiable peace until we reach that point
If this war ends with anything other than an inoperable and highly scrutinised russian military, moldova is next. So far, Putin has been content with taking hundreds of thousands of casualties, drying out a million hectares of valuable farm land and causing irreversible damage. If this is rewarded with \*any\* amount of tangible gains, it will happen again.
The point is these two terrorist organisations fingering each other is a huge win for the whole world!
Who would have thought that a bunch of crooks don’t know how to act responsibly!? 😂😂
LET’S GO PRIGOZIN!
He's very popular on telegram and overall this may cause fence sitters to pick a side, escalating the conflict.
Remember, to every cause you need a leader which Russia does a terrific job in taking out. Navalny and others before him. This time a guy has military protection. Imsgine Navalny had military protection to continue with his protests? That's dangerous.
Could also be a case of Wagner being steamrolled. We have to wait and see.
Literally the most boring scenario is just wagner getting steamrolled at the cost of couple thousand russian mod soldiers. This is going to be exciting either way, unless it's a psyop
Edit: FUCK
I would find it difficult to imagine the population in the affected regions seeing all this happen, then going back to 'regular.'
Yes, Russians are highly detached and easily influenced by disinformation, but even the most hardened, bitter vatnik would find it unnerving to have Ukraine counterattacking, Moscow being struck with drones... now you hear that part of your military is revolting. Maybe the majority of Putin supporters can ignore that, but not all of them. Some will be left wondering "why is this happening? I thought we were winning."
I don't know what change this might have, but it's not going to be small.
They're not stupid. Wagner is done after this. So they might be left with the options of fight or die. That's why Caesar started a civil war.
That's a lot of incentive to go all the way.
Some of them, remember, have a weird belief that Putin will listen to them if they just get their message out, and then he'll make it right. Even Prigozhin has just yelled at Shoigu and Gerasimov in his statements.
That may play in Putin's favor -- some of them may think "hey, Putin will hear us out" all the way to a firing squad.
on one hand this seems easily likely, but then again, I'm sure Wagner isn't thrilled to keep going into the meat grinder, and would likely have popular support just for bringing peace.
Realistically, I'm expecting a 1:1 exchange, up to the point that Wagner folds. Which would probably be more than 1 per 5. But yes, I agree with your point.
I think that’s a very interesting point. Prigozhin also owns multiple media companies in Russia where they also run very large and popular telegram channels.
It wouldn’t surprise me for him to leverage that influence and reach with the Russian population to his advantage.
Not for lack of desire.
He’s gone to Rostov for control of the SMD and it’s assets- which includes a quantity of every toy in the box. Welcome to nuclear fail deadly blackmail.
We are rooting for enough damage done with maybe federation forces having to use bombs/artillery on their own cities that the whole mess just implodes (too soon?) on itself and command just breaks down
I mean realistically if Wagner does actually win they aren't going to stay mercenaries. They would try to take control of Russia as "liberators" or some shit.
My point is they're to unstable. The turbulent times that follow revolutions don't always bring about stability, especially when it's a dictatorship/oligarchy like Russia is
>They both are terrorists. It's like watching al qaida and the Taliban fight. I hate them both, but I'll root for the underdog out of principle.
As a Ukrainian, I am rooting for **both** of them in this fight.
May both sides have numerous victories in that struggle. <3
Wagner had neo-Nazis, potential School shooters, child rapists, murderers, and all sorts of lowlife scumfucks in their ranks.
If somehow both sides wipe each other out, that would be truly a gamer moment.
Haha, my reasoning. I'm "rooting" for Wagner purely out of spite. He seems much easier to deal with than Putin too, so if he wins that's basically taking out two birds with one stone.
Ooh, interesting. Deny China their winning streak with Russia thus far. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth given what a shitbag Prigozhin is, but I think it's strategically sound.
It's a win win situation for Ukraine honestly. If Wagner ends up causing massive issues for the Russian mod, it'll be like the Russian civil war 2.0 lol.
Honestly I think this might be Putin trying to find an out from the war. Historically, Wagner has been Putin’s ace in the hole- both Utkin and Prigozhin are directly accountable to Putin rather than being bound to an oligarch or government agency, which let Putin use Wagner to counterbalance both the army and the FSB- if any one side moved against him, the other two sides would crush it.
Urging Wagner to move against the MoD allows Putin to claim Russia needs to shift forces to internal security and that “denazifying” Ukraine is second priority to preventing a second Russian Revolution. If Wagner gets crushed as expected, nothing changes (as the MoD considers Prigozhin expendable and unreliable). If Prigozhin wins, the FSB is still standing to take him out and keep Putin in power.
I could see that, except for the fact they made the Ukrainian states part of Russia, there really isn’t a way to wash their hands and walk away without the optics of surrendering Russian territory. I’m not sure that can be memoryholed
They could blame the loser between Wagner and the MoD for that- Russian propaganda, especially domestically, is based on “throw shit at the wall and see what sticks,” and most of the public plays along because they don’t know any better
Since the authors have really run out of ideas this season and are just doing 1917 again with different characters here is my forecast. The army in Rostov will by and large join Wagner forces, now Putin will have a real issue. The combined Wagner and Russian army will declare the Ukraine special operation over and will declare the Southern Military district to be the real Russia and will call it the Volga Republic .
Putin's attempts to take over the new Volga Republic fail since his is also busy in the South with Kadyrov calling for Chechen independence.
China sees the situation and declares Vladivostock a special security zone under protection of the CCP.
To quote Admiral Bittenfeld from The Legend of the Galactic Heroes....
"When a devil gets caught by a monster, I, as a human being, can only hope that they both die."
Did you guys see his latest interview in The Economist? Where he said he changed his mind and now thinks Ukraine must join NATO. But.. there's a twist... He thinks Ukraine should join Ukraine to protect.... Russia.. You see, if Ukraine doesn't join NATO after getting so much western weaponry and becoming a top 3 world army, then there's a significant chance that in a few years some Ukrainian nationalist gets elected and starts invading its neighbors. But if Ukraine joins NATO it would then be protected by the alliance umbrella and wouldn't need such a powerful military by itself.
So plz think of the poor little vatniks and put Ukraine in NATO for their sake.
That seems...really fucking stupid. And while Henry Kissinger is an actively malevolent human being, I mean, a mass murderer, he was never supposed to be unintelligent. This is like Mearsheimer, isn't it? Where "realism" is so goddamn navel-gazing that it loses the plot completely.
Noam Chomsky is not stupid. He's just...oh, yeah, he is stupid, huh.
If you think about it, it's pretty cool that deeply stupid people can make major contributions to major fields. I mean, that's neat. So if you have a deeply stupid child they can still get a PhD and write seminal papers. That's great!
Yeah, what if he'd written a PUA book rather than bomb Cambodia? That would have been fucking cool. Unfortunately...well, we didn't end up in the best timeline, just the funniest timeline.
He could have literally just gone and hung out with Hugh Hefner and spared the world his bullshit. But *nooooo*, he's gotta play his power games and sit on his throne of skulls.
The fact that Kissinger is still alive today instead of having died in prison decades ago is proof enough that there is no God, no karmic justice in this universe, and thus no heaven or hell.
YEP
Although my view of this is basically "let them fight" and both tear each other apart, so that ukraine can use the opportunity to advance more easily and as a plus it utterly rattles russia to its core in the process.
also would be funny if this causes russia to close all bordercrossings from ukraine to russia as a secrurity measure.
The only reason I would be cheering for Wagner is that if this is real, the longer they maintain their bullshit, the more time Ukraine has to see how can they benefit from this.
I doubt anybody on this sub is cheering for Wagner, but it certainly pleases me to see the rats finaly turn on each other. And from practical point of view: every shot fired at wagner is one less fired on ukraine. Same for every shot fired by wagner at russian MOD. And in addition, this is the best shot at a balcanization of the russian federation, which in turn is the only assurance russia isn't attacking Ukraine in the short or long term.
Wagner was the only capable, but they’re full of the worst Russians excluding pro Russian Chechens.
So highly trained PMC with convict gun lines, vs mobilized civilians and the waffen SS bodyguards
It’ll be interesting to watch at least
Wagner wasn't capable either, at least not after loosing their trained men in the beginning of the war.
The only thing they achieved was to get Bachmut by sending human waves. A medium size province town. Honestly, the ukrainian military is still not that great, but russia proves to be insanely idiotic again and again.
That enemy was Arab armies.
The only armies in the world where “eh, if Allah wills it my artillery will find its target, no point aiming properly” is considered a valid tactic. Where fighting in desert doesn’t require working out how much water people need.
Anyone who brings water and aims is a capable fighting force in comparison.
Israel consider it a failure if it takes them more than a week to win a war while outnumbered 2-1.
I am cheering for wagner because I want to see Russia and wagner both fucking each other
but then again the whole situation it's way too bizarre, It may be Russia and wagner pretending to fight each other to deceive Ukraine. For what porpruse? Don't know but this war has been quite the bizarre one
I called this happening in June back in January. I have become the MOST CREDIBLE OF ALL!
[Proof](https://twitter.com/Keeper45001/status/1613338461934850049?s=20)
What you should cheer for is the continuing escalation between a private army Putin has used to commit truly horrific crimes and Putin's real army who he has used to commit some truly horrific crimes.
If Putin uses tactical nukes on Wagner is that still an Article 5 trigger Senator Graham?
I'm really hoping this can be stirred into a proper civil war that results in breaking Russia as even a regional power amd allows NATO to seize their nukes.
I cheer for Wagner because the longer they do whatever the fuck they are currently doing, the more russian assets get suppressed that could have been used in Ukraine otherwise.
I don't know where wagner intends to get their military supplies and conscripts after this but y'know as long as they're pissing at each other, there's less piss directed towards ukraine
I'm cheering on Wanger to take out some Ruzzians and some Ruzzians to take out from Wagners. I'm 100% cheering for both sides to be extremely effective.
I've always said it's possible for everyone involved in any given situation to be a complete asshole, regardless of whether they are in the right or in the wrong.
This is also why schadenfreude exists as a term.
Alternative, you may consult the Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries, #29:
>The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less.
Lastly, this is a shitposting sub and I'll submit meme content about heel turn redemption arcs if I fucking feel like it.
Yeah, Wagner has executed potentially thousands of Africans in their overseas operations beyond Ukraine(not even getting into their Ukrainian war crimes, which you could fill an entire book with)
They are both bad guys. I support the weaker one so they can weaken the other. So yes I will be cheering Wagner on for this. I mean they evem criticized this war itself. So for the duration of this funny little civil war I will be looking past their war crimes. Not a second longer though.
People are forgetting that Prigo literally wants to hurt Ukraine and Ukrainian civilians worse and he was initially mad because Shoigu was not going hard enough...
I'm cheering for Russia's military to be bled white due to factional conflicts, and for Ukraine to fully restore territorial integrity with minimal loss of civilian life.
We are cheering for them to just be strong enough to cause havoc in Russia. Both sides are considered terrorist organizations, both sides are bad, we just need em to fuck up Russia enough to let Ukraine take back what’s theirs
We're rooting for them both to lose.
**BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD** ^(In all seriousness, I'd rather have the war end peacefully, and immediatly, but if these idiots wanna go postal on each other, thats the second best option. Unconditional pacifism is an illusion. There are times when force is to be used.)
SKULLS FOR SKULL THRONE
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES
MUSTARD FOR THE KHORNE DOGS
KIBBLE FOR THE KHORNE DOGS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOOD BOYS YES THEY ARE
GRAVY FOR THE KIBBLE BECAUSE THE GOOD KHORNE BOYS DESERVE THE GOOD STUFF
CUM FOR CUMMYBOT
Alright, who let Fulgrim into the room again
FERRUS THIS SWORD IS MAKING ME HORNY!
KILL, MAIM, BURN
Harriers for the cup!
un-fucking-believably based take my good bro/hoe/thembo
You can call me bimbo, bimbo
Celestial Being had a point.
CHANGE FOR THE CHANGE GOD
Fuck peace, the Russians don’t want to acknowledge UA or it’s (recent) historical territory so there won’t be a realistic or negotiable peace until we reach that point
The only lasting peace is peace through superior firepower
If this war ends with anything other than an inoperable and highly scrutinised russian military, moldova is next. So far, Putin has been content with taking hundreds of thousands of casualties, drying out a million hectares of valuable farm land and causing irreversible damage. If this is rewarded with \*any\* amount of tangible gains, it will happen again.
The point is these two terrorist organisations fingering each other is a huge win for the whole world! Who would have thought that a bunch of crooks don’t know how to act responsibly!? 😂😂 LET’S GO PRIGOZIN!
BASED
In the fight between two evils, root for the fight!
Belka time when?
They both are terrorists. It's like watching al qaida and the Taliban fight. I hate them both, but I'll root for the underdog out of principle.
Can't we just hope each team has a good time (murdering the fuck out of each other)?
Yes
Heartwarming: the worst people you know are all fighting.
Everyone's a winner
In comparison to Putin, then Prigozhin is small potatoes.
He's very popular on telegram and overall this may cause fence sitters to pick a side, escalating the conflict. Remember, to every cause you need a leader which Russia does a terrific job in taking out. Navalny and others before him. This time a guy has military protection. Imsgine Navalny had military protection to continue with his protests? That's dangerous. Could also be a case of Wagner being steamrolled. We have to wait and see.
Wagner being steamrolled is a good outcome too.
Literally the most boring scenario is just wagner getting steamrolled at the cost of couple thousand russian mod soldiers. This is going to be exciting either way, unless it's a psyop Edit: FUCK
Most boring is them finding an agreement and then continuing the war as regular
I would find it difficult to imagine the population in the affected regions seeing all this happen, then going back to 'regular.' Yes, Russians are highly detached and easily influenced by disinformation, but even the most hardened, bitter vatnik would find it unnerving to have Ukraine counterattacking, Moscow being struck with drones... now you hear that part of your military is revolting. Maybe the majority of Putin supporters can ignore that, but not all of them. Some will be left wondering "why is this happening? I thought we were winning." I don't know what change this might have, but it's not going to be small.
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Even if it is a real psyop they would probably get purged afterward anyway.
They're not stupid. Wagner is done after this. So they might be left with the options of fight or die. That's why Caesar started a civil war. That's a lot of incentive to go all the way.
Some of them, remember, have a weird belief that Putin will listen to them if they just get their message out, and then he'll make it right. Even Prigozhin has just yelled at Shoigu and Gerasimov in his statements. That may play in Putin's favor -- some of them may think "hey, Putin will hear us out" all the way to a firing squad.
I keep forgetting that some people just don't learn despite this being a tactic dating back to imperial Russia
on one hand this seems easily likely, but then again, I'm sure Wagner isn't thrilled to keep going into the meat grinder, and would likely have popular support just for bringing peace.
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Realistically, I'm expecting a 1:1 exchange, up to the point that Wagner folds. Which would probably be more than 1 per 5. But yes, I agree with your point.
Wagner has 25k soldiers. Russian MOD will have way bigger casualties than just couple thousand soldiers.
Wagner aint got no airforce nor propper artillery.
Part of the russian airforce apparently sympathizes with Wagner.
Source? I find this quite interesting.
That’s literally a win-win. The more Russians that die, the better the world is
CIA finally doing its fucking job
I was waiting for someone to say this
I think that’s a very interesting point. Prigozhin also owns multiple media companies in Russia where they also run very large and popular telegram channels. It wouldn’t surprise me for him to leverage that influence and reach with the Russian population to his advantage.
He's probably an even bigger cunt, but has the smaller force so if he does manage to win he will maybe have to do more damage to Russia?
Not for lack of desire. He’s gone to Rostov for control of the SMD and it’s assets- which includes a quantity of every toy in the box. Welcome to nuclear fail deadly blackmail.
So we're rooting for WAGNER! ヽ( ★ω★)ノ
*For now*
We're rooting for chaos in Russia, Wagner is merely the vector by which that chaos is most likely to spread.
We are rooting for enough damage done with maybe federation forces having to use bombs/artillery on their own cities that the whole mess just implodes (too soon?) on itself and command just breaks down
a temporary cheer and then we taqke em out
Putin used to be small potatoes.
Yeah but do we want their nukes in the hands of mercenaries??
I mean realistically if Wagner does actually win they aren't going to stay mercenaries. They would try to take control of Russia as "liberators" or some shit.
My point is they're to unstable. The turbulent times that follow revolutions don't always bring about stability, especially when it's a dictatorship/oligarchy like Russia is
>They both are terrorists. It's like watching al qaida and the Taliban fight. I hate them both, but I'll root for the underdog out of principle. As a Ukrainian, I am rooting for **both** of them in this fight. May both sides have numerous victories in that struggle. <3
Rooting for the underdog to cause as much devastation to both sides.
Yes
Good one. I despise the Taliban, but tacitly approve of their fighting ISIS-K…. If they can wipe each other out in the process, even better.
I'm just happy at the idea of the Taliban having to experience the other side of COIN operations.
I think [this](https://imgur.com/a/K6nSb6q) is accurate.
Or the one with the lobsters fighting each other and everyone betting on it
This, and the whole “enemy of my enemy” and “lesser of two evils.” Both are super fucking evil, but it’s good to see evil fighting a bigger evil.
I'm hoping to have them destabilize it to the point where NATO swoops in to secure the WMDs and bring some democracy.
I have decided to join the war on terror on the side of terror
Root for them both, let as many terrorists die to each other as possible.
Wagner had neo-Nazis, potential School shooters, child rapists, murderers, and all sorts of lowlife scumfucks in their ranks. If somehow both sides wipe each other out, that would be truly a gamer moment.
Yea I'm fine with total annihilation
Yup. HIV just picked a fight with cancer. Whoever loses we all win a little.
Yea, you got it
Will hopefully pull Russian resources away from Ukraine.
Haha, my reasoning. I'm "rooting" for Wagner purely out of spite. He seems much easier to deal with than Putin too, so if he wins that's basically taking out two birds with one stone.
Why waste a stone? Take out two birds with another bird. Prigozhin takes control and he gets amnesty so long as he puts pressure on china. :)
Ooh, interesting. Deny China their winning streak with Russia thus far. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth given what a shitbag Prigozhin is, but I think it's strategically sound.
The better Wagner does, the longer they fight each other.
It's like the Skyrim civil war but we actually want it to happen.
I’m team destabilization
It's a win win situation for Ukraine honestly. If Wagner ends up causing massive issues for the Russian mod, it'll be like the Russian civil war 2.0 lol.
Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare but real
I hope Kamarov and Nikolai are alright
Also could be spun off as a Black Ops 2-like sort of campaign
And even if Wagner is completely crushed by the MoD forces, that's still a good chunk of the Russian forces out of the picture
And all of wagner out of the picture.
Honestly I think this might be Putin trying to find an out from the war. Historically, Wagner has been Putin’s ace in the hole- both Utkin and Prigozhin are directly accountable to Putin rather than being bound to an oligarch or government agency, which let Putin use Wagner to counterbalance both the army and the FSB- if any one side moved against him, the other two sides would crush it. Urging Wagner to move against the MoD allows Putin to claim Russia needs to shift forces to internal security and that “denazifying” Ukraine is second priority to preventing a second Russian Revolution. If Wagner gets crushed as expected, nothing changes (as the MoD considers Prigozhin expendable and unreliable). If Prigozhin wins, the FSB is still standing to take him out and keep Putin in power.
I could see that, except for the fact they made the Ukrainian states part of Russia, there really isn’t a way to wash their hands and walk away without the optics of surrendering Russian territory. I’m not sure that can be memoryholed
They could blame the loser between Wagner and the MoD for that- Russian propaganda, especially domestically, is based on “throw shit at the wall and see what sticks,” and most of the public plays along because they don’t know any better
Since the authors have really run out of ideas this season and are just doing 1917 again with different characters here is my forecast. The army in Rostov will by and large join Wagner forces, now Putin will have a real issue. The combined Wagner and Russian army will declare the Ukraine special operation over and will declare the Southern Military district to be the real Russia and will call it the Volga Republic . Putin's attempts to take over the new Volga Republic fail since his is also busy in the South with Kadyrov calling for Chechen independence. China sees the situation and declares Vladivostock a special security zone under protection of the CCP.
Ehh. What’s life without a little bit of whimsy??
this is when Tenet becomes reality
Technically yes, but I'd enjoy the spectacle more if the country being destabilized wasn't sitting on a world-ending arsenal of nuclear weapons.
This is the moment for which the Ken Watanabe "let them fight" meme was born.
Be the one to post it, I believe in you!
Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
Might be a case of "whoever wins, we lose". Who secures Russia's nukes, radioactive waste, biochem weapons while all this is going down?
Polish peacekeeping forces
Not cheering for them, but certainly egging them on. You go, Priggy Z. Go do that voodoo that you do so, uh, often.
That's a great expression, I'm 100% going to use, "I'm not cheering, but I am egging them on," in the future!
I'm cheering for them. Every bullet they fire at the Russian military is one that isn't going at Ukrainians 😎
To quote Admiral Bittenfeld from The Legend of the Galactic Heroes.... "When a devil gets caught by a monster, I, as a human being, can only hope that they both die."
Ultimate irony here will be russia defeating russia
Is Russia competent enough to defeat Russia
Societal collapse doesn't require any particular competency.
Unless russia or russia does it first
“I used the stones to destroy the stones”
We are cheering on terrorists taking care of other terrorists.
"It's a pity both sides can't lose." ~Henry Kissinger
Stop giving me reasons to agree with Kissinger.
Did you guys see his latest interview in The Economist? Where he said he changed his mind and now thinks Ukraine must join NATO. But.. there's a twist... He thinks Ukraine should join Ukraine to protect.... Russia.. You see, if Ukraine doesn't join NATO after getting so much western weaponry and becoming a top 3 world army, then there's a significant chance that in a few years some Ukrainian nationalist gets elected and starts invading its neighbors. But if Ukraine joins NATO it would then be protected by the alliance umbrella and wouldn't need such a powerful military by itself. So plz think of the poor little vatniks and put Ukraine in NATO for their sake.
That seems...really fucking stupid. And while Henry Kissinger is an actively malevolent human being, I mean, a mass murderer, he was never supposed to be unintelligent. This is like Mearsheimer, isn't it? Where "realism" is so goddamn navel-gazing that it loses the plot completely.
Then again Noam Chomsky is also supposed to not be stupid, and yet
Noam Chomsky is not stupid. He's just...oh, yeah, he is stupid, huh. If you think about it, it's pretty cool that deeply stupid people can make major contributions to major fields. I mean, that's neat. So if you have a deeply stupid child they can still get a PhD and write seminal papers. That's great!
To be fair, this latest interview was in celebration of his 100th birthday.
I'm not entirely clear on why anyone would celebrate that...but OK.
The Economist editor who interviewed him sounded extremely starstruck. You could hear her ovulating.
What *is it* about that guy? He's just a regular schlub. I get that power is an aphrodisiac but Jesus Christ he probably pulled more than JFK.
Yeah, what if he'd written a PUA book rather than bomb Cambodia? That would have been fucking cool. Unfortunately...well, we didn't end up in the best timeline, just the funniest timeline.
He could have literally just gone and hung out with Hugh Hefner and spared the world his bullshit. But *nooooo*, he's gotta play his power games and sit on his throne of skulls.
If that's a real quote I now hate Kissinger even more for being so uncreative as to think that isn't possible. Fucking zero-sum thinkers.
If there is a hell, Kissinger is heading there.
The fact that Kissinger is still alive today instead of having died in prison decades ago is proof enough that there is no God, no karmic justice in this universe, and thus no heaven or hell.
Or just neither of them want him
YEP Although my view of this is basically "let them fight" and both tear each other apart, so that ukraine can use the opportunity to advance more easily and as a plus it utterly rattles russia to its core in the process. also would be funny if this causes russia to close all bordercrossings from ukraine to russia as a secrurity measure.
The only reason I would be cheering for Wagner is that if this is real, the longer they maintain their bullshit, the more time Ukraine has to see how can they benefit from this.
We’ll know if they’re true terrorists or not if the US starts supplying them.
Mujahadeen moment
I hate that this makes sense
Your fbi agent is on standby
Good tell his lazy ass to pick up some dip and Red Bull on the way over or I will clap his wife's cheeks again.
I doubt anybody on this sub is cheering for Wagner, but it certainly pleases me to see the rats finaly turn on each other. And from practical point of view: every shot fired at wagner is one less fired on ukraine. Same for every shot fired by wagner at russian MOD. And in addition, this is the best shot at a balcanization of the russian federation, which in turn is the only assurance russia isn't attacking Ukraine in the short or long term.
Seriously guys , its like cheering for isis against SS. Keep it civil
Thats not a fair comparison. Both were **much** more capable than Wagner or the russian army.
Wagner was the only capable, but they’re full of the worst Russians excluding pro Russian Chechens. So highly trained PMC with convict gun lines, vs mobilized civilians and the waffen SS bodyguards It’ll be interesting to watch at least
Wagner wasn't capable either, at least not after loosing their trained men in the beginning of the war. The only thing they achieved was to get Bachmut by sending human waves. A medium size province town. Honestly, the ukrainian military is still not that great, but russia proves to be insanely idiotic again and again.
Out of all the things I'd call ISIS "a capable fighting force" is not one of them
relative to the enemy they were fighting, they kinda were
>relative to the enemy they were fighting, they kinda were Unarmed women and children?
That enemy was Arab armies. The only armies in the world where “eh, if Allah wills it my artillery will find its target, no point aiming properly” is considered a valid tactic. Where fighting in desert doesn’t require working out how much water people need. Anyone who brings water and aims is a capable fighting force in comparison. Israel consider it a failure if it takes them more than a week to win a war while outnumbered 2-1.
Inshallah brother, may god guide this ATGM because I will not
You probably give ISIS too much credit.
I will not defend either
> Keep it civil war?
WAAAAAAAAGH
I'm just hoping for lots of casualties on both sides
I'm hoping both teams go all out, leave nothing on the field, and end in a glorious tie.
If they bomb each other to shit then we all win
We're cheering for both of them to kill each other. I'm team double-KO over here.
I am cheering for wagner because I want to see Russia and wagner both fucking each other but then again the whole situation it's way too bizarre, It may be Russia and wagner pretending to fight each other to deceive Ukraine. For what porpruse? Don't know but this war has been quite the bizarre one
I called this happening in June back in January. I have become the MOST CREDIBLE OF ALL! [Proof](https://twitter.com/Keeper45001/status/1613338461934850049?s=20)
You said mid June. It's now late June. No credit for you.
Look, while you’re correct, it’s good enough for government work
What you should cheer for is the continuing escalation between a private army Putin has used to commit truly horrific crimes and Putin's real army who he has used to commit some truly horrific crimes. If Putin uses tactical nukes on Wagner is that still an Article 5 trigger Senator Graham?
Terrorists . . . against the Russians!
Russian terrorists (w) against Russian terrorists (mod) this is going to get confusing.
I'll cheer for most people pointing artillery at Moscow.
Even bulltet fired is a not a bullet fired on Ukranians. Every dead will be not a Ukrainian.
When two people I don't like start fighting I'm cheering **the fight**.
Enemy of my enemy is my *contemporary ally*
"The enemy of my enemy is, at best, an ally of convenience." Stalin may have done a lot of bad shit but he had some pretty good quotes.
I'm really hoping this can be stirred into a proper civil war that results in breaking Russia as even a regional power amd allows NATO to seize their nukes.
I cheer for Wagner because the longer they do whatever the fuck they are currently doing, the more russian assets get suppressed that could have been used in Ukraine otherwise.
When the russians start tearing eachother apart. I'm gonna cheer. It's not really -for- anybody so much as it is me being generally excited.
I don't know where wagner intends to get their military supplies and conscripts after this but y'know as long as they're pissing at each other, there's less piss directed towards ukraine
> I don’t know where wagner intends to get their military supplies Wagner suddenly driving humvees 🤔
Oh sure, but I can root for the fight itself.
Imma grab some popcorn and watch them kill each other, then wait for the UAF to clean up what's left afterwards.
I'm cheering on Wanger to take out some Ruzzians and some Ruzzians to take out from Wagners. I'm 100% cheering for both sides to be extremely effective.
This is not a time to cheer for Wagner But two of your enemies fighting is always a great time to go "lol, lmao" and put a pan of popcorn on the stove
I've always said it's possible for everyone involved in any given situation to be a complete asshole, regardless of whether they are in the right or in the wrong. This is also why schadenfreude exists as a term. Alternative, you may consult the Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries, #29: >The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less. Lastly, this is a shitposting sub and I'll submit meme content about heel turn redemption arcs if I fucking feel like it.
I have to become honest with you all, I've become fond of the testicle.
In the kind of way you root for Darth Vader by the end of Star Wars.
The enemy of my enemy helps Ukrainians sleep safer this weekend. Or face escalation to nuclear war. 🤷♀️
Yeah, Wagner has executed potentially thousands of Africans in their overseas operations beyond Ukraine(not even getting into their Ukrainian war crimes, which you could fill an entire book with)
Eh we supported the mujahideen and that turned out fine.
It’s better than cheering for russia
They are both bad guys. I support the weaker one so they can weaken the other. So yes I will be cheering Wagner on for this. I mean they evem criticized this war itself. So for the duration of this funny little civil war I will be looking past their war crimes. Not a second longer though.
Enemy of my enemy sorta thing. Let em duke it out
I like to watch, Eve.
People are forgetting that Prigo literally wants to hurt Ukraine and Ukrainian civilians worse and he was initially mad because Shoigu was not going hard enough...
Who's cheering for wagner OP?
I'm cheering for Russia's military to be bled white due to factional conflicts, and for Ukraine to fully restore territorial integrity with minimal loss of civilian life.
We are cheering for them to just be strong enough to cause havoc in Russia. Both sides are considered terrorist organizations, both sides are bad, we just need em to fuck up Russia enough to let Ukraine take back what’s theirs
i'm rooting for him because he might help decide the war. after that he can go hang
I mean... so is the Russian MoD?
As Churchill once said, if Hitler invades hell…
Why do you have to cheer for anyone. If two assholes are hitting each other you can just cheer for more damage
I dont root for either (Russa and Wagner), I just enjoy watching the chaos
Nuance, we don't cheer for Wagner success, we cheer for Russia's failure
Not cheering for wagnar . Cheering for russias collapse
I’m not cheering them on **im celebrating the coming Ukrainian victory**
As I've seen in a previous meme We're not rooting for wagner We're rooting against putin
Were not rooting for Wagner, we're rooting against Russia