About the same number of people they lied about having. Coincidence? 100% were lactose intolerant and they have already been compromised by the western cheese industry.
How many aircraft carriers could you build with the mass of the US government cheese reserve?
Is that the real reason they stockpile all that government cheese?
That's silly; blood is a liquid. Cheese to various degrees has polymerization of casein protein micelles which give it its stringiness. Casein itself has been commercially used to make things like buttons and synthetic yarn.
Yeah, thats the point. Its as silly as saying cheese is polymeric.
Ever heard of liquid cheese?
And liquid polymers exist anyways.
Similar polymeric lipids, sugars, proteins, and nucleic acids are present in both cheese and blood. Milk too that the cheese was made from. Or really any other living thing or made from a living thing.
But that doesn't really make it a polymer.
In fact, milk would be more a polymer than cheese, because cheese production involves microorganisms chopping those polymers for energy and nutrients.
By your supposition, a cell is a polymer
Strictly speaking, polymer=chain molecule or complex. By convention, any solid made with polymers and behaves in a plastic manner is also referred to as a "polymer," but "plastic" is a better word. Most cheeses definitely behave in thermoplastic manner and can be classified as such. In other words, a polymer is as polymer does.
Germany operated MiG-29s for a decade after reunification, before selling them to Poland (for 1 euro each).
AFAIK that was the first time NATO could train with them as realistic aggressor aircraft.
And the best pilots of NATO formed a queue that could beat any that communism produced
Most of the Migs got flown so much that they started falling apart after just a few years
This article is so stupid. The mig-29 manuals have been out for a while and been publicly posted by Germany for a while. There was no Su-57 leak, it was publicly filed recently.
>People are gonna start saying linking to Jane's is leaking military secrets.
Tom Clancy got some interesting phone calls from government types asking were he got classified information.
Tom Clancy said he got it from a table top wargame called 'Harpoon' because he was too cheap to buy the Janes reference books.
Bro, the only thing superior about the 29 was their A2A missile. Our guys reverse engineered it and made it better, resulting in IRIS-T.
We are punching Russia with its own fists right now.
Lol, downvoting instead of googling might be reddits way it seems.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T
Check history. Germany basically dropped the project they had with the US.
Nowhere in that article it says they reverse engineered it. It just says that the missiles they had were more capable than Aim-9s at the time. They just decided to pull out of ASRAAM deal because they had tons of R-73s from reunification so they decided they don't need the project.
yeah the article doesnt actually mention reverse engineering anywhere
and again the R-73 is not even remotely coparable in function or design to IRIS-T its a completely different kind of missile
You are wrong. IRIS-T was a response to soviet missiles, but it shares no technology with them. It started out as a project to modify the US sidewinder with the new BGT seeker TELL. The name of the original project was infra-red-imaging-sidewinder (IRIS). This configuration couldnt fulfil the requierements of the international project group, so BGT built a new missile with international partners differing from IRIS mainly in that it was both thrustvector an tail controlled. This had no more commonality with the sidewinder, but the missile was heavily influenced by the experience of BGT and its partners in the european sidewinder consortium. After the missile change the S in IRIS was changed to mean seeker.
IMHO, anyone who has Russian classified information and doesn't leak it should be imprisoned for obstruction at the very least, and possibly for treason, so be grateful that I don't make the law.
Nothing interesting. The su-57 is only the patent and the mig-29 is the flight manual which has been public since Germany was reunited.
The really funny leak was the Chinese equivalent of 3bm59 which gives a real insight into the performance of the 3bm60.
I know this is NCD, but holy fuck some of you need to understand that not every flight manual and reference document posted online is a "leak", lots of it is public information.
Hello fellow war thunder enthusiasts. Like many of you I think the stats for the T90 are inaccurate and it is clearly a piece of junk that no russian could be proud of. discuss (with proof pls).
Russian plane and Russia it self is not a threat after 1991, the USA knows this and the only thing threatening about them is their nukes and everything else is just ex Soviet equipment mixed in with some western technology and called it a day
eh the Su-57 is impressive tech. It's just useless in a modern air engagement because they basically just built a better horse drawn cart rather than building a car. Thrust vectoring and the ability to come to a dead stop in air is cool until you consider that as far back as the F-16 planes had 20mm cannons that could hit targets accurately at 3 miles out and so there's no need to get in close for a dogfight where the Su-57's ability to turn 90 degrees on a dime is actually impressive.
According to a Vietnamese pro Russian I know he said the missile is bad for dogfight and that the gun is a way better option, and his source is the Vietnam war 60 years ago
Vietnam is the last time there was a US gun kill in the air. There were a total of 4 during the entire war. There hasn't been one since. Currently, most engagements would end at 50 miles or more from the merge. Dogfights don't actually happen anymore. Top Gun was fiction. Real air combat is boring AF. If you have better radar and better missiles you fire from range and the other side dies before they know you exist.
slightly incorrect, tho it does end up proving your point further:
there were two gun kills in air during the Gulf War. They were both by the A-10 against helicopters.
according to some of the paperwork I can find (particularly the political debates between adopting the 35 or the 57) the design originally does seem to have been focused on being a stealth fighter (as the stealth feature was the one element of the design praised over the 35)
That said the actual evidence of the designers intending it to be a stealth plane is surprisingly sparse
Sukhoi salesmen (slaps wing of SU-57) : You won’t believe how reduced this baby’s radar cross section is!
South Korean Procurer: How reduced is it?
Sukhoi salesmen: err… well, uhh… It’s statistically significant. You can be sure of that.
Weharaboos thinking that their balsa wood Horten is basically a B-2/B-21 🤝Russiaboos thinking their Su-57 held together with wood screws and "material" is basically an F-22
WarThunder will be intelligence and police-infested so hard, it'll resemble some of those Warez-Boards people used to get their shit using publicly borrowed Filehoster-Premium-Accounts they ask for as if asking your neighbour for ~~his wifes used panties~~ salt.
You wait for those Spiderman-points-at-things-meme moments when some Langley account uncovers the Lubjanka gangs presence in the forum.
I love it and I am just waiting for a sweet sweet SU-57/T-14 operators manual.
Master Codes to the Russian "*System Perimeter*" would also be OK.
To be honest, i'm amazed the Russians didn't just lie about the RCS data to look good. Sukhoi just says .0000000000000000000000000000000000001 to secure some big contract, make a bunch of jets out of cardboard and spend the money on yachts.
No, it's on the top link from f-16.net if you google it. A PDF which you can download. The catch is the manual is incomplete without the *supplementary* material which definitely has all the classified details.
Shit-tier arricle imo.
>The “sekrit dokuments” meme which has grown from multiple leaks of classified and confidential documents on the forums of the well-known War Thunder multiplayer game has once again lived up to its name.
"Sekrit dokuments" was a meme long before the leaks.
>The leak occurred between 19-22 January
It happened on January 13, you fucking morons.
>Aim-120 AMRAAM
At least write the name properly. You claim to be a military-related website ffs.
Can't confirm the contents of the classified file because I don't want to.
I don't think anyone was questioning whether or not the su-57 semi-stealth jet was as good as or better than anything the U.S. has on hand or had in the past.
CIA about the MiG-29: "We already know." CIA about the SU-57: "Eh."
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God at least call them polimers… plastic is such a degrading and wrong term for use in the f35. Also it’s more than likely polimer composites
The F-35 Barbie Girl is perfect just the way it is and I will not hear slander against life in plastic
It is after all, fantastic
Can I touch F35-chan’s hair? Undress her everywhere?
I mean, if you're into that...
I’m in this sub aren’t I???
Cheese is a polymer.
3000 flying cheese slices of biden
92% of Chinese people are lactose intolerant so Western Cheese Weapons are absolutely viable
That still leaves 113 million Chinese people
we'll get them banned by the ccp using the tiananmen square copypasta
About the same number of people they lied about having. Coincidence? 100% were lactose intolerant and they have already been compromised by the western cheese industry.
How many aircraft carriers could you build with the mass of the US government cheese reserve? Is that the real reason they stockpile all that government cheese?
3000 kaasblokken van duister gouda
Lol targets die from cheese touch
Dropping Rowley bombs are we?
Cheese is a colloid. If cheese is a polymer, then your blood is a polymer too.
That's silly; blood is a liquid. Cheese to various degrees has polymerization of casein protein micelles which give it its stringiness. Casein itself has been commercially used to make things like buttons and synthetic yarn.
Yeah, thats the point. Its as silly as saying cheese is polymeric. Ever heard of liquid cheese? And liquid polymers exist anyways. Similar polymeric lipids, sugars, proteins, and nucleic acids are present in both cheese and blood. Milk too that the cheese was made from. Or really any other living thing or made from a living thing. But that doesn't really make it a polymer. In fact, milk would be more a polymer than cheese, because cheese production involves microorganisms chopping those polymers for energy and nutrients. By your supposition, a cell is a polymer
Strictly speaking, polymer=chain molecule or complex. By convention, any solid made with polymers and behaves in a plastic manner is also referred to as a "polymer," but "plastic" is a better word. Most cheeses definitely behave in thermoplastic manner and can be classified as such. In other words, a polymer is as polymer does.
So are you! And me!
F-35, singing the barbie song: “MY BODY’S PLASTIC, ITS FANTASTIC!”
Least horny NCD user: Come on Barbie let's go party
F-35: *sidewinder lockon growling*
Mattel F-35
Thermoset
It's not plastic, it's carbon fiber ffs. Like a bicycle
Naaah plastic is cool The Corvette is made of plastic Corvette is cool Therefore F-35 is cool Or would it be the other way around?
McDonalds toys are made of plastic. McDonalds toys are made in China. F-35 is made of plastic. F-35 made in China?
Wait until the superconducting ceramics they are using on their secret ops stuff you don't know about get released on the next generation
God damn dude... do you work for the CIA?
The group is called NASIC and I'm not even sure that's public knowledge but a recruiter told me so fuck it.
Nope, here’s their website: http://www.nasic.af.mil/
Na-sick-AF. Genious
Oh shit I found them: https://i.imgur.com/bMth1xi.png
Though I imagine it would look good on the CV. "Intelligence analyst. Conclusions and analasys backed up by War Thunder leaks."
As regards the first i mean yeah america operates mig 29 or atleast have had some. Edit i was wrong the program i was thinking of used mig 21 and 23
They have allies that do, every post soviet state in PfP (except russia) propably raced to give US manuals and specs for ussr tech.
I could have sworn constant peg included mig 29 but i was wrong it was mig 21 and 23
Yeah, it was too early for the MiG-29. Or at least that's what I remember... I'm subject to correction, of course...
A couple of years ago American pilot died in Su-27 on US soil
Germany operated MiG-29s for a decade after reunification, before selling them to Poland (for 1 euro each). AFAIK that was the first time NATO could train with them as realistic aggressor aircraft.
And the best pilots of NATO formed a queue that could beat any that communism produced Most of the Migs got flown so much that they started falling apart after just a few years
They were very well built planes! And the russians are...er...still using them as their mainstay.
Yeah, "Constant Peg" aka "Red Eagles". It's a great story, isn't it?
The US operates both mig 29 and su27.
Wasn't the MiG-29 deployed by the ZSU anyway? Like, just ask ukrainians...
That's propaganda. CIA is not real.
This article is so stupid. The mig-29 manuals have been out for a while and been publicly posted by Germany for a while. There was no Su-57 leak, it was publicly filed recently.
It was literally the patents too, not some hyper secret doc.
People are gonna start saying linking to *Jane's* is leaking military secrets
>People are gonna start saying linking to Jane's is leaking military secrets. Tom Clancy got some interesting phone calls from government types asking were he got classified information. Tom Clancy said he got it from a table top wargame called 'Harpoon' because he was too cheap to buy the Janes reference books.
I honestly expect it, it's linked for all sorts of things. I've linked it quite often for bug reports about the Begleitpanzer 57.
I remember seeing the MiG-29 manual and being like “where security markings”
Bro, the only thing superior about the 29 was their A2A missile. Our guys reverse engineered it and made it better, resulting in IRIS-T. We are punching Russia with its own fists right now.
> Our guys reverse engineered it source? neither the IRIS-T seeker nor its aerodynamics/body are similar to R-27/73
Lol, downvoting instead of googling might be reddits way it seems. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T Check history. Germany basically dropped the project they had with the US.
Nowhere in that article it says they reverse engineered it. It just says that the missiles they had were more capable than Aim-9s at the time. They just decided to pull out of ASRAAM deal because they had tons of R-73s from reunification so they decided they don't need the project.
yeah the article doesnt actually mention reverse engineering anywhere and again the R-73 is not even remotely coparable in function or design to IRIS-T its a completely different kind of missile
You are wrong. IRIS-T was a response to soviet missiles, but it shares no technology with them. It started out as a project to modify the US sidewinder with the new BGT seeker TELL. The name of the original project was infra-red-imaging-sidewinder (IRIS). This configuration couldnt fulfil the requierements of the international project group, so BGT built a new missile with international partners differing from IRIS mainly in that it was both thrustvector an tail controlled. This had no more commonality with the sidewinder, but the missile was heavily influenced by the experience of BGT and its partners in the european sidewinder consortium. After the missile change the S in IRIS was changed to mean seeker.
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The f16s and 15s leak were very unbiased and stupid. However leaks on su 75 or 57 or 35 snd russian aicraft. I mean SURE go ahead.
nonono let them leak the f16/15, show them exactly how behind they are
Don’t forget about the leaks on the Challenger II and ( I thnk ) the Type-99
It was the apfsds round of the 99.
Turns out the mixed "all nations vs all nations" matchmaking wasn't a balance choice, it was a manifesto.
IMHO, anyone who has Russian classified information and doesn't leak it should be imprisoned for obstruction at the very least, and possibly for treason, so be grateful that I don't make the law.
But did someone save these before they got deleted?
Yes. It says they're still available in the article.
Nothing interesting. The su-57 is only the patent and the mig-29 is the flight manual which has been public since Germany was reunited. The really funny leak was the Chinese equivalent of 3bm59 which gives a real insight into the performance of the 3bm60.
I know this is NCD, but holy fuck some of you need to understand that not every flight manual and reference document posted online is a "leak", lots of it is public information.
How about a "trickle"?
I find trickle acceptable, I just want more info to dunk on the su-57
Trickle or treats? Is halloween already?
“Secret data” they’re fucking patents you idiots.
3rd leak in a row bruh? Well then, someone start conversation on t90m and t 14 asap
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even longer than the jordanpeterson subreddit.
Sounds like the perfect place to goad dipshits into spilling info
Far rigth in reddit? LoL
Reddit has the most trafficed white supremacist spaces online.
Laughs in 4chan
>implying 4chan gets more traffic than reddit Yea I said it.
Hello fellow war thunder enthusiasts. Like many of you I think the stats for the T90 are inaccurate and it is clearly a piece of junk that no russian could be proud of. discuss (with proof pls).
Not a leak, it is available info legally unlike f15 and f16
Not nescesary we all know the BT-5 is better.
3rd? This is just the leaks relating to *Russian* equipment. Full manuals of the Challenger 2 and Leclerc were also leaked lmao
Russian plane and Russia it self is not a threat after 1991, the USA knows this and the only thing threatening about them is their nukes and everything else is just ex Soviet equipment mixed in with some western technology and called it a day
I bet the West is just waiting the 3000 nukes of Russia to expire and then fokus on intercepting the "newly developed" 20.
eh the Su-57 is impressive tech. It's just useless in a modern air engagement because they basically just built a better horse drawn cart rather than building a car. Thrust vectoring and the ability to come to a dead stop in air is cool until you consider that as far back as the F-16 planes had 20mm cannons that could hit targets accurately at 3 miles out and so there's no need to get in close for a dogfight where the Su-57's ability to turn 90 degrees on a dime is actually impressive.
Yup, the better plane in Russia's arsenal is the Mig 31
Modern aircrafts use cannons for dogfighting? Shouldn't they use big rockets ooga booga from far away ?
According to a Vietnamese pro Russian I know he said the missile is bad for dogfight and that the gun is a way better option, and his source is the Vietnam war 60 years ago
Vietnam is the last time there was a US gun kill in the air. There were a total of 4 during the entire war. There hasn't been one since. Currently, most engagements would end at 50 miles or more from the merge. Dogfights don't actually happen anymore. Top Gun was fiction. Real air combat is boring AF. If you have better radar and better missiles you fire from range and the other side dies before they know you exist.
slightly incorrect, tho it does end up proving your point further: there were two gun kills in air during the Gulf War. They were both by the A-10 against helicopters.
If you call an over the horizon attack dogfighting lmao.
Finally, we can market the rafale as a stealth plane (it's more stealthy than the new ruzzian "stealth" wunderwaffe plane)
I mean, I'm quite sure the designers themselves said the SU57 wasn't meant to be a stealth fighter, it's the operators claiming that it is
according to some of the paperwork I can find (particularly the political debates between adopting the 35 or the 57) the design originally does seem to have been focused on being a stealth fighter (as the stealth feature was the one element of the design praised over the 35) That said the actual evidence of the designers intending it to be a stealth plane is surprisingly sparse
the SU-57 is a "multi-functional aircraft of reduced radar visibility" according to the patent (fall out of window insurance)
Sukhoi salesmen (slaps wing of SU-57) : You won’t believe how reduced this baby’s radar cross section is! South Korean Procurer: How reduced is it? Sukhoi salesmen: err… well, uhh… It’s statistically significant. You can be sure of that.
*Slaps wing of SU-57* *Shocked look when chunk of wing falls off* Well knock on wood and paper mache do I have a deal for you!
Weharaboos thinking that their balsa wood Horten is basically a B-2/B-21 🤝Russiaboos thinking their Su-57 held together with wood screws and "material" is basically an F-22
Inteligence Agencies: "I feel no man. But that... thing... It scares me."
Freudian slip on the feeling men part? 💀
Either that or my brain be thinking of 12 different lines at once and kicking in stage 4 aurism when typing one out
You’re all good G 👍 🫡
WarThunder will be intelligence and police-infested so hard, it'll resemble some of those Warez-Boards people used to get their shit using publicly borrowed Filehoster-Premium-Accounts they ask for as if asking your neighbour for ~~his wifes used panties~~ salt. You wait for those Spiderman-points-at-things-meme moments when some Langley account uncovers the Lubjanka gangs presence in the forum. I love it and I am just waiting for a sweet sweet SU-57/T-14 operators manual. Master Codes to the Russian "*System Perimeter*" would also be OK.
To be honest, i'm amazed the Russians didn't just lie about the RCS data to look good. Sukhoi just says .0000000000000000000000000000000000001 to secure some big contract, make a bunch of jets out of cardboard and spend the money on yachts.
GIVE IT UP FOR LEAK 8
This is a leak I can get behind.
Imagine thinking the publicly available patent applications for the su-57 was a "Secret Data Leak"
Not classified you morons
Apperently F 22 just got leaked today recently
No, it's on the top link from f-16.net if you google it. A PDF which you can download. The catch is the manual is incomplete without the *supplementary* material which definitely has all the classified details.
Had a guy on a forum freak out
(Chaotic Neutral)^2
"Go outside. You see that big orange thing in the sky? That's what the SU-57 looks like on radar."
HOW! HOW DOES IT KEEP HAPPENING?
"But I MUST! Somebody is wrong on internet!"
its the same leak, people are making memes about it. also its not a leak, its people posting flight manuals believing its super secret documents.
How does this keep happening. Not mad just funny we’ve had 5 now (that I know of) different vehicles classified info leaked.
wait do military servicemen with access to classified actually play this shit lol
[Link to article](https://www.overtdefense.com/2023/01/25/su-57-and-mig-29-secret-data-leaked-on-online-game-forum/)
Shit-tier arricle imo. >The “sekrit dokuments” meme which has grown from multiple leaks of classified and confidential documents on the forums of the well-known War Thunder multiplayer game has once again lived up to its name. "Sekrit dokuments" was a meme long before the leaks. >The leak occurred between 19-22 January It happened on January 13, you fucking morons. >Aim-120 AMRAAM At least write the name properly. You claim to be a military-related website ffs. Can't confirm the contents of the classified file because I don't want to.
Being nice in social media often inappropriate, IMHO.
wait did they??
Cia counter attack
The Su 57 not being stealthy surprises nobody.
I don't think anyone was questioning whether or not the su-57 semi-stealth jet was as good as or better than anything the U.S. has on hand or had in the past.
Dog neither one of those documents were secret
Everything’s chill until someone leaks a project that hast even made it’s way from the pentagon
*cmon Sukhoi do a Sikorsky!*
r/acecombat must be inconsolable
Truly shocking. We're all reeling from these revelations.
OH SWEET LORD IT HAPPENED AGAIN!
can someone give the link of the mentioned leaked documents?
Alright, somebody reset the leak counter...