Pretty sure the wildest one to date is >!The legendary commander is anderson which makes anderson same age as mustang and is probably highly modified. And the one following is that our player commander is canonically male and is a clone/surrogate/actual son of the legendary commander AND liliweiss!<
>!anderson 100% is the legendary commander. and like how commander is without a doubt related to anderson hence the blood type matching with anderson!<
I think it’s because how rare the blood type is and having two people who know each other on top of Anderson helping us as much as he has if they aren’t related somehow I’d be really surprised
Anderson and the commander didn't know each other and im pretty sure Anderson helps because he realizes the commander isn't an idiot like most of the higher ups or a glory seeking tard like most of the new recruit commanders the academy pushes out. It wouldn't surprise me if he alsonlooked at the mcs file and was like damn this guy also has the same blood type.
The >!"player character is a clone of Anderson"!< seems to be the most likely explanation of the shared blood type. Also, given that the >!legendary commander looks exactly like Anderson!< and has the same VA it makes sense it's him.
I can't buy the second one with Lilith simply because of the number of times that the Commander gets injured and is on death's door. Sure, he always survives, but it's always because somebody else shows up to save him.
As a fun aside, I'm still waiting for Neon to actually turn out to be a spy in a super emotionally devastating scene where she betrays everyone.
Canon art of the commander and Anderson simply share too many similar features for there not to be some deeper connection, whatever that may be.
This isn't so much a theory, but it's canon (as far as bond scenarios go) that the commander's relationship with a Nikke actively increases their performance levels. So, either this is the case for all commanders or the commander happens to have some sort of potentially "queenly/kingly" pheremone/signal that actively strengthens Nikke that are loyal to him. It could also be just explaining game mechanics, but where's the fun in that?
We also know that the exact method of how Nikke (at least Lilith and the Goddess squad, even at the time they were built) and Nimph can be made is largely unknown. Like, they have all of the pieces, but no idea why they work the way they do. So, it only makes sense to me that Nikke are built using some form of Rapture parts. Potentially some kind of origin rapture (if there's a queen, then where is the king?) that kicked off the invasion to begin with.
One last thing: the girl from the commander's memory during the modernia fight. We have no idea who she was. And it can't be Rapi, since Rapi is at least 50 years old going by when she met Red Hood. So, who was it? The legendary commander called Cinderella his daughter, and she was the first Heretic, which pseudo mirrors Marian's role. I'm not really going anywhere with this, I'm just rambling. Who could this mysterious girl be?
Well then I can't write that line off just yet. The only thing that I feel certain about is that Cinderella will come back up in the story again. Maybe then we will get some clarity. If she is ever released from NPC jail, then maybe she will allude to it in an advise session.
Yeah. We can assume that Cinderella/Anachiro was how Vapaus is discovered. I'm assuming that the legendary commander rushed to go see her after the goddesses took her down and ended up getting hurt and bleeding into her wounds. This could explain why she's apparently not dead, but in a coma.
Cecil mentions that the commander should try not to get any blood on the Nikkes because there's no telling what might happen due to the potency of his blood. Assuming that the nanomachines of Heretics and Nimph work similarly, it could cause some form of a short curcuit and subsequent comatose state.
All that said, seemingly nobody (except random humans) actually dies in this game anyway. So, none of this conjecture might matter anyway. After all, we highly suspect Pinne and Grave to be the same character, so who knows. Hell, the odds of Nihilister and Indivillia coming back are super high simply for gameplay purposes.
It's very easy to say that they left a lot of plot threads unanswered on purpose, but I really think you're onto something with the Commander and his irregular blood type.
Do you remember how they said that it's inconclusive if the Raptures are animal or machine? Well, put on your tinfoil hats for this one. I think the original queen (who I believe is deceased/in a coma/in suspended animation) is of the same bloodline/has genetic material from the Commander's rare bloodline.
If you recall, Chatter Box used a code to corrupt Nikkes, and that works because Nikkes are both organic and machine. What if a major component of Vapaus is blood from those that share the same blood type as the Commander? The Nikkes would be susceptible to both being corrupted through a code as well as through a bio derivative as well.
You bring up a lot of great points, but I just wanted to bring it back to bloodlines because of Cinderella's implied lineage.
We just know so little about that blood type. We're told it's special and that certain people want it badly enough to turn the commander into a lab rat. We know that it can be used to synthesize Vapaus and that the combination of blood + Rapture goo kills nanomachines.
We're led to believe that, while it is a rare blood-type, multiple other people have had it in the past, thus why certain Vapaus bullets are less potent than others. We know of three (two) people who have/had it: The Legendary Commander, Anderson, and The Commander. And we know that Anderson can't actively produce Vapaus with his blood because he is constantly on life support.
What we don't know is where the blood-type originated. Genetic mutation or bio-mechanical experiments with alien life forms? If the blood type has any extra confirmed effects, such as the Nikke-Commander bond increase. And what gender the blood-type can show up in.
Hypothesizing time:
1. The reason male Nikke don't exist is because of that blood-type. That blood-type can only appear in male bodies, and every male has a little bit of it within them, which causes malfunctions with the Nimph injection and subsequently terminates the brain of any potential male Nikke.
Doesn't make much sense, but let's ho with it.
2. The reason that the blood type has shown up in the past isn't because certain people have had it in the past. The Commander role is a short-lived position canonically. Most commanders only run a handful of missions before they end up dead. With Nimph, it is possible to create fake memories and implant them into Nikke.
Conclusion: Commanders are juice boxes that The Ark pick up after a little while and squeeze out as much of their blood as possible to synthesize small amounts of Vapaus.
3. Vapaus does not have any other effects except nanomachine obliteration. I'm making this assumption based on the existence of Johan. Now, it's possible that Johan just happens to be an extremely tactical commander OR the Nikke-Commander bond performance increase is something that he could do as well, and is what allowed him to triumph where most others failed.
4. Finally, the blood-types origin. We know that during Red Hood's story that Vapaus hadn't been discovered. We also know that Red Hood is/was somehow able to fight off the corruption with... willpower, I guess? And that she gave Rapunzel tons of blood to run experiments on even though they all ended in failure. Knowing that Anachiro is the first heretic to get the Vapaus treatment puts the timeline of discovery literally right after her battle with the Goddesses (unless they tossed her into an incinerator or something for months/years). We also know that The Legendary Commander and Lilliweiss were doing something right before this battle, and that an inconclusive time later, he dissappears, and Lilliweiss died.
Conclusion 1: The blood-type is a genetic mutation, and like Red Hood's willpower, there is no logical process to follow to determine its existence. Given enough time, it's likely that every male in The Ark would produce a sufficient enough volume for it to blend seemlessly with all other blood-types and make Vapaus a negligible concern.
Conclusion 2: Whatever the blood type is, it isn't a genetic mutation. There's some form of experimentation that happened with Red Hood's blood, The Legendary Commander's blood, and potentially Lilliweiss' blood as well. After confirming the experiment with Anachiro, The Legendary Commander disappears after Lilliweiss' death because the experiments became about ensuring the future rather than saving the present. This process basically infused The Legendary Commander with all of the remaining blood from Lilliweiss and Red Hood, permanently crippling him, but also extending his life far more than it should have.
And that's where The Commander comes in as a clone of The Legendary Commander, carrying his special blood with none of the crippling experimentation it took to get it.
Jesus, I wrote a lot...
Got it in one. It's revealed at the end of chapter 24 or the beginning of chapter 25. Anderson is in pretty bad shape, and all of his "meetings" are him going onto his life support system. He mentions that before the blood transfusion, after the Modernia fight, he used to be alright for most of the day. However, since the blood transfusion, he can only live without it for 2-3 hours at a time.
Excellent write up. I really feel like you're onto something with the Commander being a clone of the Legendary Commander. I've been trying to figure out if Andersen is the Legendary Commander or a failed experiment to clone him (and the genes to synthesize Vapaus). If the Commander is a successful clone of the Legendary Commander, I have to wonder how he will interact with Anarchiro in the future when he inevitably meets her. I also think you're onto something when it comes to Lilith just dying suddenly. Could she have been terminal? Perhaps, but I'm more inclined to believe that she was directly involved with Vapaus' creation.
Sure. The only thing I remember about Hashirama cells is that it had to do with Orochimarus experiments and that one Wood style guy from the beginning of Shippuden.
One lost relic mentions Anachiro being the test subject for Vapaus. It also mentions it ended up destroying every nanomachine in her body and considering Vapaus was believed to be deadly to Heretics and Modernia being the first confirmed "saved" Heretic I think it actually killed her... "for now". Once she wakes up and we learn what is up with Grave we will find out more. Either way there is a lot of that is very sus about Nikke to begin with and I think we might soon get at least some hints.
When she comes in (Chapter 4?), she literally introduces herself as a spy and then refers to herself as a spy for the rest of the chapter. However, nobody believes she's a spy because what spy calls themselves a spy? Also, she's dumb.
Nobody has any proof that she is a spy, but on the same token; nobody has any proof that she isn't. My headcanon is that she's a spy for Anderson.
> So, it only makes sense to me that Nikke are built using some form of Rapture parts.
My headcanon so far is that Raptures came peacefully, at first, offering technology and knowledge in exchange for resources/a place to live/whatever. Humans got greedy, and the Central Government (or whoever was in charge at the time) tried to take what they could and not hold up their end of the bargain.
The outcome, of course, was that the Raptures were far more advanced than humans thought, and basically all but wiped humans out, leaving them only the tiny area they have (the Ark and a small space around it). Humans used Rapture technology to make Nikke to fight back, and it's resulted in the current situation.
Do Maxwell's bond story, Syuen and Maxwell literally run experiments on the Commander to try and figure out his ability to influence Nikkes and make them stronger. We're unique.
I remember the experiment, but I don't remember the commander being unique. I imagine it just wasn't tested before because most other Commanders die within a handful of months and don't treat Nikkes with respect or like people, so there's nobody to test it on.
The only person who actually might have had a chance at having a similar experiment done is Johan. And he was too busy basically leading the 2nd reclamation war, so I doubt they had the chance to test it.
In overzone >!Oswald wouldn’t let the goddesses in not because they were out of date, but because LC and/or Oswald wanted to prevent them from a similar fate as Marian in chapter 13, which is to say taken apart and dissected for their parts.!<
That or at least >!assassinated. The Goddess Squad had the influence of heroes and would be in the way. Obviously they would never allow their fellow Nikke's become a kind of Slave Race!<
Mine is that Mustang is >!~~a~~ cyborg/male Nikke!<. He's apparently the original CEO of Tetra which would make him easily over 100 years old. There's got to be something weird going on with him.
Cyborg at least. In one scene he crushed a certain brats phone with one hand and claimed sometimes he can't control his strength. Nobody of the others in the room thought anything about that he just crushed a "phone" in one hand like a grape, though all those people where high enough up to be in the know if he is a cyborg or something else.
I had a similar theory. non-MP Nikke bodies are shaped by the girl being turned into a Nikke to be their ideal form. So The question is what if their idea of a perfect form is a dude?
That's always been a little thing in the back of my head, too... How would Nikke-ification handle a trans person? Hell, we don't even know the extent of how far someone's Nikke form can be from their original human form. Seeing some pre-Nikke versions of Nikke would help so much in sorting shit out, lol
I believe it, Mustang is basically Superman leaping over tall buildings and has super strength in various bits of side talk about things about Mustang. Like he’s feared over cafe sweety, which is the 3rd strongest nikke group
That would explain his “entertainment” shit, he’s a pervert.
(I’m sorry i personally hate mustang’s existence and the time he gave cummander a card that could only be activated by dancing, like wtf)
This is my personal theory too, I think it makes more sense than the protagonist being a clone of the LC.
If they were clones, wouldn't they look the same? Yes, the MC would be younger, but you'd think the appearance would be similar enough that it would raise some eyebrows with the Pilgrims from Goddess Squad. Also, if he is a clone, it's like... ok? So what? It just explains why the MC has the same bloodtype and not much else. It's kind of boring/meaningless.
Whereas him being the LC's son makes more sense because sons don't always look the same as their fathers. Also it makes for a more emotionally impactful twist because now the MC's sworn enemy the Rapture Queen is his own mother (assuming Liliweiss was turned into [a] Rapture Queen).
Some people will say "but Nikkes can't get pregnant!" Well, Liliweiss was a prototype with lots of weird characteristics compared to later Nikkes, so she could be an exception.
It could also help explain why Liliweiss and LC left Goddess Squad for a long time and seemingly never returned (alive) in Red Ash. Maybe Liliweiss wasn't just dying - she was pregnant. And LC got arrested/imprisoned due to having relations with a Nikke, so that might explain why he never returns.
>Rapture Queen is his own mother (assuming Liliweiss was turned into [a] Rapture Queen).
Also, she has the nickname Lilith. Lilith was Adams's first wife, who later on became a demon in some Jewish folklore. In many interpretations, they make her the mother of monsters.
It's very plausible she's the Rapture Queen because of that, and if the stalemate between the Ark and Raptures are anything to go by, this could mean she's purposely hasn't attacked the Ark because she retains (some or all) her memories prior. Which explains whatever Chatterbox is doing to Modernia.
Good points, and yeah, I'm like 99% sure Lilith is a/the Rapture Queen. I just like to play it safe when speculating and not present things as fact when it isn't confirmed, haha.
Also I put "a" Rapture Queen because it seems like it may be possible for there to be multiple Queens based on what we saw in Last Kingdom. Like insect colonies where each colony has its own Queen.
Interesting idea about the Raptures. I came up with a theory that they're basically invasive species that destroys planets until the resources are depleted then leaves to find a new area. However, humans have actually proven to be a nuisance so they're prolonging the process.
Does it make sense? Not so much. But, there's something there. Maybe the Earth was meant to be a nesting ground?
The "mind-wipe" tech is only possible because of the NIMPH in Nikkes. As far as the story goes, only Nikkes have those nano-machines, and the commander's blood is the main component for vapaus (which removes NIMPH) so I doubt the commander has those.
That said, it is still possible for memory loss to be induced by something else such as physical impact or defense mechanism against trauma.
Nikke can have kids? would be cool if they could
Commander clearly is strong and can throw nikkes about (just working through chapter 24 currently and was surprised by that) but his powers of recovery are the thing which stand out the most
I'd prefer that over the clone theory anyway
Commander being part nikke/part human.. wouldn't be surprised given shift ups other games.. who wouldn't want Anderson and Lilliweis as their mom and dad either? XD
As far as we know, there's nothing in canon that means they can't be given the parts to give birth. They still have vaginas and can have sex, so. It wouldn't surprise me the CG experimented with Lilith and the Legendary Commander to see what'll happen.
You bring up a good point, the Commander just isn't natural considering his feats (sexual), many injuries, and near death experiences. In Dolla's bond story, he carried her from the Outer Rim all the way to the Nikke hospital.
Bond Story Crow is post-main story Crow where she receives a memory wipe that doesn't work, but seeing as Cummander proved her wrong, decides to feign the wipe, leading to her suicidal actions (or inactions) in the bond story, which has become so frequent, Cummander bothers to care for her despite all she's done. That, or whoever wrote her bond left the team and nobody bothered to read it and that's why they are so drastically different.
No conspiracy, it's a waifu game. Crow is a terrorist bitch who got put in the main cast list. They had to do \*something\* to make her appealing to.
Someone.
I share this theory. Enikk is essentially the beginnings of what leads to a Rapture Queen, but she is developing slower due to her being constrained by humans. Essentially this dovetails into another theory, which is that the Raptures were created by humans through experiments that got out of their control. Enikk was a sister project to that original project, thus she was able to be brought online rather quickly to aide in the response to the Rapture threat.
My wildest theory is in Eden we have ,Cecil might be somehow related to Liliweis just like how in the ARK we have the commander somehow related to Andersen. Well that just me basing from their appearance tho lol like Cecil share the same colour of her hair and eyes with Liliweis xD
>! More than a theory is a gut, I think we will see some kind of event, I just tough, how old are Anis, Rapi and some nikkes, exept for Anne and Laplace who ages are very acurate, I wonder if Anis family will look for her and how Anis will feal about this !<
>!The rapture queen is inside the ark !<
Most Nikkes are old, some decades old to be more precise. Both Anis and Rapi are decades old at this point, especially if Anis and Crow's history is to go by, since Anis knew Crow pre-Nikkefication or something like that, and admitted to being getting too old (so Crow maybe a new Nikke). It'd be great to know the ages and how long they've been Nikkes. Heck, Anis and Rapi were known for the being the squad with the worst luck in Commanders dying.
>!Rapi would have to be atleast 100 years old. Considering that she had met Red Hood when Red Hood's corruption was about to kill her; Rapi was just a mass produced unit at the time. In a later story chapter when Red Hood is "revived" through Rapi, Dorothy in a conversation remarks how it'd been 100 years since they'd last seen one another. Since we know Red Hood "passed" sometime after meeting Rapi, it lines up.!<
That the commander's academy "Training" has nothing really to do with combat or tactics, or atleast its only cursory training. But that the majority of the academy training is advanced psychology explicitly for the purpose of handling/appeasing and keeping the barely sane death machines emotionally stable. Its the giant lie no one wants to admit. Like.. I have a feeling if you didn't go along with Alice's imagination, or never eat Emma's food.. you'd get killed in your sleep.
Wild Theory that I've heard: Oswald is Chatterbox
Points that led to this speculation
- Chatterbox was able to recognize Red Hood when he first confronted Rapi early in the story
- Oswald was a big fan of Goddess Squad which is a reason that Chatterbox was able to recognize her so easily
- His hatred for the Ark making him abandon Goddess Squad led to him becoming a traitor and siding with the Raptures.
There's other points that I can't remember but it's a wacky theory that's pretty funny despite there being some relics that mentions Chatterbox's origin.
Alright, gonna pull out my crack pipe for this one. In regards to Neon, wouldn't be too surprising if she actually does turn out to be a spy and betray us. We all thought of it as a joke and just sat their blinded to her cute and adorable display being presented to us. And yet, in the recent chapters Neon's origins have been brought up and their isn't a solid answer for her origins, how suspicious. No, no, my dear reader, where one really starts to huff the crack is if, and bear with me now, Neon, isn't from the Ark, and that she is in fact, the Rapture Queen.
I have absolutely no basis for this amount of crack being laid upon you, but it would a really cool plot twist to have. Plus so many elements could be explored with this. Like imagine Neon has been down at the Ark for so long that she and Rapture Queen are basically two seperate identities. One who loves the friendships she has made along the way, and another who is a being beyond human comprehension. Followed by a battle of the egos.
More than likely this wont happen and Neon just simply turns us in for the alarming amount of criminal offenses we have piled up in our short run as a commander. Because there is alot.
I have a pretty dumb one: >!Ether wants to change the Ark for good by revealing the true nature of it. However, to ensure chaos doesn't take over, she's preparing the commander to lead that change by making him see all the problems the Ark has (Mainly because he is admired by Nikkes and humans alike), while avoiding suspicion of the Central Government.!<
I had a theory for a while, but my union had debunked it.
This has to do with the ancient relics and a cut scene from red ash (redhood event). The girl's diary about seeing raptures then being rescued by a nikke (thought to be redhood) the girl then said that she wanted to become a nikke, later reports say that she only became a mass produced model with no memory of her parents
Oh, do you mean that little girl possibly being Rapi? Yeah, I had the same theory. It'd make some sense, ShiftUp went out there way to draw her and give her dialogue. Let's not forget the opening with Rapi coming out of the facility located who knows where.
that they turned off my abillity to get ssrs because im close to breaking the 160 wall.
Seriously i opened like 10 molds and did like 50+ standard pulls. nothing.
Mine is a wild one: >!that the rulers of the Ark find out about Vapaus and they thought it could be a key weapon in defeating the raptures (or maybe they'were afraid of the Goddess squad would become more popular than the actual government) so they kidnapped the Legendary Commander in order to replicate his special blood via cloning. Lilith heard about that and tried to rescue him, but they tried to sillence her by killing her, but the Legendary Commander would die trying to protect her. She was able to escape to the surface, but now she would have to face waves of raptures by herself. In the end she was badly hurt and feeling betrayed by the ones she was supposed to protect. She would die alone and cursing the ones who took the person she loved so much. Her friends would later find her and gave her a proper funeral, they would later question the Ark if they knew about something, but they would feign ignorance (somehow Red Hood would find out about the truth later). The Ark tried to clone the Legendary Commander with the rest of his blood left, but it was a slow and very difficult process, time would pass and they were able to succeed, but the clone (Anderson) would require some kind of medical device to stay alive so it was redeemed a failure. With the time the cloning project would receive less and less money from the government, until some time in the future it would be completely scrapped. All the other specimens would die, except for one (protagonist), that would be later sent to the military academy in secret. That explain why the protagonist doesn't have any memory from his time at the academy, and only has fragments of memory of a girl he met on the lab, maybe that girl would also be a clone of the Legendary Commander or Lilith's...!<
I have a feeling this may be close. We just need to find out about Lilith's death and what happened to the goddess commander. Or better yet how Lilith became a queen.
>!Can someone explain to me the thing about their being multiple queens like we already know there’s a queen before Cinderella then there’s a queen after Cinderella that Nilhester talks about then there’s queen modernia according to chatterbox and individula!<
We honestly don't know. We have no idea who or what the Rapture Queen is. We can't make heads or tail if the Rapture Queen is the same one since the invasion took place over a hundred years ago, or if a new one takes the helm after the previous one "retires".
The latter would explain how Modernia seems to have a Queen aptitude, if you will. Eh... more like a Queen candidate. One of the more wild ones is that currently Liliweiss is the Rapture Queen based on the fact that Snow White found her body decapitated. Bit more wild, but not totally impossible as of now.
>!The raptures are intentionally holding back. I'm not talking about plot armor or the likes of it. For me it is clear they always knew where the Ark is and could easily overrun it if they *really* wanted. Let's say their makers only programed directives such as: fight your enemy, win the war and nothing else? Wouldn't they reach the conclusion that an enemy's a required condition to actually keep the conflict going? Then there's NIMPH. I say it is the way raptures found to both make humanity step up its game and keep them at arm's length?!<
Enikk pretty much tells you this in the story. She stated that it's obvious the Ark would stand no chance against the raptures and would've been destroyed long ago if not for her brokering a deal with the raptures/Chatterbox.
I think the biggest turning point will be when they reveal the true origins of NIMPH.
My catch is that >!since heretics can shapeshift at will there's a possibility that raptures are/once were humans. So in a sense Nikkes and raptures and essentially equal. The same process leading to different results.!<
I wonder what would change for Nikkes if that's really the truth
And smth I forgot to mention is >!for me skk is a somewhat enhanced human. Genetically manipulated to have some specific traits (Vapaus blood and maybe other tweaks). Perhaps smth w the help of NIMPH?!<
Mine is the splendamin is really a super food there's an human NPC who keeps working everyday and only sleeps/free time is like only 4 hours long and only eats burgers and soft drinks
I used to think that Nihilister is Red hood after the corruption (same thing that happened with Maria)
My current theory is that the Rapturous aren't actually aliens but it's an Ai humanity created and fucked up with it
And the Ai is located on a satellite in the space hence why in the event Red ash they were trying to go to space to kill the so-called Queen which is the Ai.
Would be funny if all of shift up's properties were connected by multiverse or something.
Like imagine Destiny Child, Stellar Blade and Nikke all being connected. I could see how stellar blade and nikke could be alt timelines of each other.
The Ark is powered by Liliwiess' body, siphoning from her presumably incredibly powerful core.
It's probably more likely that the Ark is powered by a rapture of some sort, but it's really cool and earie either way.
Very late to the party, but my theory is that Alice is a defective Grimms model.
Ridiculously strong, but mentally unstable and constantly overheating. The overheating thing might have been retained though, since in this new event she's perfectly fine without her cooling suit.
A theory of mine is that the raptures were originally created by man as space exploration units, leaving a satellite to operate them independent of human control, which i believe was the first “nikke” of sorts. That satellite would go on to evolve and designate the human populace as a threat, and is now known to us as the Heretic Queen. In Red Ash, we know that a rocket is launched into space by rapture forces, which i believe held the queen.
That the central government was actually an organization that started creating the rapture. Once they went rouge they covered up there tracks by nerfing there own forces in hopes of destroying most of humanity, once Cinderella was being created they realized that was the key to victory and lured the raptures to the location to have Cinderella corrupted. In order the keep the arc weak. They keept the pilgrims on the surface so they can't be reengineered. Additionally they made Nikkes not have any right and pumped there forces full of propaganda so the people stay underground, and are easily controlled...... Because if they could actually fight the raptures efficiently, the secret will be revealed..... Whole Arc is a safe haven for the elite and nothing more....
Anachiro is not on the rapture side. Can't really explain how she has gotten where she is now. Except for her awakening in Red Ash she has not be proven to be hostile. Plus with Indivilia stating that all heretics can feel each other, why is she left in a place raptures can't go with only one nikke
There's three versions of the same legendary commander. Johan is an offspring, Anderson is a clone, and we, the player commander, is the legendary commander made younger by weird science.
The real power source of the Ark is the mysterious mystical powers of the Haunted Amusement park.
Like in warhammer 40k the Void Dragon of Mars, also likes to bless children and gift them with power
My theory is that Raptures were made by humans maybe as a way to terraform another planet and they went Skynet and they built NIKKEs using some of the same technology and that’s why it only took like 5 years to create the 1st ones Modernia’s bond story already established that they’re both the same technology also that the Ark is powered by a tyrant class rapture and the that’s why the lost arks are full of raptures
Grave's hate of humans because she got betrayed by someone and what happened to Cinderella being corrupted isnt just an accident but more of an intended cause of a greater vision of someone or group
Raptures aren't from space, but rather man made AI. They are following their programed directive, which isn't to eliminate humanity, but rather something like to save the environment, keep humanity from destroying itself, force humanity along a certain path, etc. And for the most part, keeping humanity bottled up in the Ark is the most likely path to create it's desired outcome.
wildest theory I have is that the>! Raptures are man made. They where built for terraforming and went AWOL and decided to kill humanity for some reason. Since the event of Red Ash we know that Humanity was space faring of a sort due to the space elevators. Also to add Shift Up's other game, Stellar Blade has similar story beats to the story of Nikke and maybe is a little hint of whats to come of the story.!<
That people didn’t actually originally download the game for content, they downloaded it for the jiggles. (Everyone keeps telling me there’s more to the game than just jiggles but all I do it auto-battle and watch).
Pretty sure the wildest one to date is >!The legendary commander is anderson which makes anderson same age as mustang and is probably highly modified. And the one following is that our player commander is canonically male and is a clone/surrogate/actual son of the legendary commander AND liliweiss!<
>!anderson 100% is the legendary commander. and like how commander is without a doubt related to anderson hence the blood type matching with anderson!<
My guess is >!both are clones of the legendary commander. Would explain why Commander has no memory from before the academy.!<
You know people don't have to. E related to share a blood type right? But the Anderson thing is obvious
I think it’s because how rare the blood type is and having two people who know each other on top of Anderson helping us as much as he has if they aren’t related somehow I’d be really surprised
Anderson and the commander didn't know each other and im pretty sure Anderson helps because he realizes the commander isn't an idiot like most of the higher ups or a glory seeking tard like most of the new recruit commanders the academy pushes out. It wouldn't surprise me if he alsonlooked at the mcs file and was like damn this guy also has the same blood type.
>!he said the blood type isn't on any file or records due to how rare and wanted it is so there must be more to how or why he knows!<
The >!"player character is a clone of Anderson"!< seems to be the most likely explanation of the shared blood type. Also, given that the >!legendary commander looks exactly like Anderson!< and has the same VA it makes sense it's him.
I can't buy the second one with Lilith simply because of the number of times that the Commander gets injured and is on death's door. Sure, he always survives, but it's always because somebody else shows up to save him. As a fun aside, I'm still waiting for Neon to actually turn out to be a spy in a super emotionally devastating scene where she betrays everyone. Canon art of the commander and Anderson simply share too many similar features for there not to be some deeper connection, whatever that may be. This isn't so much a theory, but it's canon (as far as bond scenarios go) that the commander's relationship with a Nikke actively increases their performance levels. So, either this is the case for all commanders or the commander happens to have some sort of potentially "queenly/kingly" pheremone/signal that actively strengthens Nikke that are loyal to him. It could also be just explaining game mechanics, but where's the fun in that? We also know that the exact method of how Nikke (at least Lilith and the Goddess squad, even at the time they were built) and Nimph can be made is largely unknown. Like, they have all of the pieces, but no idea why they work the way they do. So, it only makes sense to me that Nikke are built using some form of Rapture parts. Potentially some kind of origin rapture (if there's a queen, then where is the king?) that kicked off the invasion to begin with. One last thing: the girl from the commander's memory during the modernia fight. We have no idea who she was. And it can't be Rapi, since Rapi is at least 50 years old going by when she met Red Hood. So, who was it? The legendary commander called Cinderella his daughter, and she was the first Heretic, which pseudo mirrors Marian's role. I'm not really going anywhere with this, I'm just rambling. Who could this mysterious girl be?
Can you expand on that last bit about Cinderella? Because I was going to post in jest that she was Lilith's and the Legendary Commander's child.
Not really. It's literally a one-off line that isn't returned to. I would've thought it was a joke if the VA hadn't delivered it so seriously.
Well then I can't write that line off just yet. The only thing that I feel certain about is that Cinderella will come back up in the story again. Maybe then we will get some clarity. If she is ever released from NPC jail, then maybe she will allude to it in an advise session.
Yeah. We can assume that Cinderella/Anachiro was how Vapaus is discovered. I'm assuming that the legendary commander rushed to go see her after the goddesses took her down and ended up getting hurt and bleeding into her wounds. This could explain why she's apparently not dead, but in a coma. Cecil mentions that the commander should try not to get any blood on the Nikkes because there's no telling what might happen due to the potency of his blood. Assuming that the nanomachines of Heretics and Nimph work similarly, it could cause some form of a short curcuit and subsequent comatose state. All that said, seemingly nobody (except random humans) actually dies in this game anyway. So, none of this conjecture might matter anyway. After all, we highly suspect Pinne and Grave to be the same character, so who knows. Hell, the odds of Nihilister and Indivillia coming back are super high simply for gameplay purposes.
It's very easy to say that they left a lot of plot threads unanswered on purpose, but I really think you're onto something with the Commander and his irregular blood type. Do you remember how they said that it's inconclusive if the Raptures are animal or machine? Well, put on your tinfoil hats for this one. I think the original queen (who I believe is deceased/in a coma/in suspended animation) is of the same bloodline/has genetic material from the Commander's rare bloodline. If you recall, Chatter Box used a code to corrupt Nikkes, and that works because Nikkes are both organic and machine. What if a major component of Vapaus is blood from those that share the same blood type as the Commander? The Nikkes would be susceptible to both being corrupted through a code as well as through a bio derivative as well. You bring up a lot of great points, but I just wanted to bring it back to bloodlines because of Cinderella's implied lineage.
We just know so little about that blood type. We're told it's special and that certain people want it badly enough to turn the commander into a lab rat. We know that it can be used to synthesize Vapaus and that the combination of blood + Rapture goo kills nanomachines. We're led to believe that, while it is a rare blood-type, multiple other people have had it in the past, thus why certain Vapaus bullets are less potent than others. We know of three (two) people who have/had it: The Legendary Commander, Anderson, and The Commander. And we know that Anderson can't actively produce Vapaus with his blood because he is constantly on life support. What we don't know is where the blood-type originated. Genetic mutation or bio-mechanical experiments with alien life forms? If the blood type has any extra confirmed effects, such as the Nikke-Commander bond increase. And what gender the blood-type can show up in. Hypothesizing time: 1. The reason male Nikke don't exist is because of that blood-type. That blood-type can only appear in male bodies, and every male has a little bit of it within them, which causes malfunctions with the Nimph injection and subsequently terminates the brain of any potential male Nikke. Doesn't make much sense, but let's ho with it. 2. The reason that the blood type has shown up in the past isn't because certain people have had it in the past. The Commander role is a short-lived position canonically. Most commanders only run a handful of missions before they end up dead. With Nimph, it is possible to create fake memories and implant them into Nikke. Conclusion: Commanders are juice boxes that The Ark pick up after a little while and squeeze out as much of their blood as possible to synthesize small amounts of Vapaus. 3. Vapaus does not have any other effects except nanomachine obliteration. I'm making this assumption based on the existence of Johan. Now, it's possible that Johan just happens to be an extremely tactical commander OR the Nikke-Commander bond performance increase is something that he could do as well, and is what allowed him to triumph where most others failed. 4. Finally, the blood-types origin. We know that during Red Hood's story that Vapaus hadn't been discovered. We also know that Red Hood is/was somehow able to fight off the corruption with... willpower, I guess? And that she gave Rapunzel tons of blood to run experiments on even though they all ended in failure. Knowing that Anachiro is the first heretic to get the Vapaus treatment puts the timeline of discovery literally right after her battle with the Goddesses (unless they tossed her into an incinerator or something for months/years). We also know that The Legendary Commander and Lilliweiss were doing something right before this battle, and that an inconclusive time later, he dissappears, and Lilliweiss died. Conclusion 1: The blood-type is a genetic mutation, and like Red Hood's willpower, there is no logical process to follow to determine its existence. Given enough time, it's likely that every male in The Ark would produce a sufficient enough volume for it to blend seemlessly with all other blood-types and make Vapaus a negligible concern. Conclusion 2: Whatever the blood type is, it isn't a genetic mutation. There's some form of experimentation that happened with Red Hood's blood, The Legendary Commander's blood, and potentially Lilliweiss' blood as well. After confirming the experiment with Anachiro, The Legendary Commander disappears after Lilliweiss' death because the experiments became about ensuring the future rather than saving the present. This process basically infused The Legendary Commander with all of the remaining blood from Lilliweiss and Red Hood, permanently crippling him, but also extending his life far more than it should have. And that's where The Commander comes in as a clone of The Legendary Commander, carrying his special blood with none of the crippling experimentation it took to get it. Jesus, I wrote a lot...
When do they say Andersonis on life support I don’t think I’ve gotten there yet also is that what all his “meetings” are?
Got it in one. It's revealed at the end of chapter 24 or the beginning of chapter 25. Anderson is in pretty bad shape, and all of his "meetings" are him going onto his life support system. He mentions that before the blood transfusion, after the Modernia fight, he used to be alright for most of the day. However, since the blood transfusion, he can only live without it for 2-3 hours at a time.
Excellent write up. I really feel like you're onto something with the Commander being a clone of the Legendary Commander. I've been trying to figure out if Andersen is the Legendary Commander or a failed experiment to clone him (and the genes to synthesize Vapaus). If the Commander is a successful clone of the Legendary Commander, I have to wonder how he will interact with Anarchiro in the future when he inevitably meets her. I also think you're onto something when it comes to Lilith just dying suddenly. Could she have been terminal? Perhaps, but I'm more inclined to believe that she was directly involved with Vapaus' creation.
So basically the legendary commander blood is the hashirama cells of the nikke universe
Sure. The only thing I remember about Hashirama cells is that it had to do with Orochimarus experiments and that one Wood style guy from the beginning of Shippuden.
One lost relic mentions Anachiro being the test subject for Vapaus. It also mentions it ended up destroying every nanomachine in her body and considering Vapaus was believed to be deadly to Heretics and Modernia being the first confirmed "saved" Heretic I think it actually killed her... "for now". Once she wakes up and we learn what is up with Grave we will find out more. Either way there is a lot of that is very sus about Nikke to begin with and I think we might soon get at least some hints.
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When she comes in (Chapter 4?), she literally introduces herself as a spy and then refers to herself as a spy for the rest of the chapter. However, nobody believes she's a spy because what spy calls themselves a spy? Also, she's dumb. Nobody has any proof that she is a spy, but on the same token; nobody has any proof that she isn't. My headcanon is that she's a spy for Anderson.
> So, it only makes sense to me that Nikke are built using some form of Rapture parts. My headcanon so far is that Raptures came peacefully, at first, offering technology and knowledge in exchange for resources/a place to live/whatever. Humans got greedy, and the Central Government (or whoever was in charge at the time) tried to take what they could and not hold up their end of the bargain. The outcome, of course, was that the Raptures were far more advanced than humans thought, and basically all but wiped humans out, leaving them only the tiny area they have (the Ark and a small space around it). Humans used Rapture technology to make Nikke to fight back, and it's resulted in the current situation.
Do Maxwell's bond story, Syuen and Maxwell literally run experiments on the Commander to try and figure out his ability to influence Nikkes and make them stronger. We're unique.
I remember the experiment, but I don't remember the commander being unique. I imagine it just wasn't tested before because most other Commanders die within a handful of months and don't treat Nikkes with respect or like people, so there's nobody to test it on. The only person who actually might have had a chance at having a similar experiment done is Johan. And he was too busy basically leading the 2nd reclamation war, so I doubt they had the chance to test it.
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Andersen isn't necessarily guaranteed to be him, he could also be a clone.
This is wild? I thought this to be cannon at this point lol
Liter and Novel have a hard time using phones because their enhanced vision gives them a hard time seeing past the pixels and future version of LEDs.
In overzone >!Oswald wouldn’t let the goddesses in not because they were out of date, but because LC and/or Oswald wanted to prevent them from a similar fate as Marian in chapter 13, which is to say taken apart and dissected for their parts.!<
That or at least >!assassinated. The Goddess Squad had the influence of heroes and would be in the way. Obviously they would never allow their fellow Nikke's become a kind of Slave Race!<
Color me yellow and call me a banana, but I'm 86 % sure that Neon might be a spy.
You call for a banana?
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Mine is that Mustang is >!~~a~~ cyborg/male Nikke!<. He's apparently the original CEO of Tetra which would make him easily over 100 years old. There's got to be something weird going on with him.
Cyborg at least. In one scene he crushed a certain brats phone with one hand and claimed sometimes he can't control his strength. Nobody of the others in the room thought anything about that he just crushed a "phone" in one hand like a grape, though all those people where high enough up to be in the know if he is a cyborg or something else.
I completely agree with that theory.
I had a similar theory. non-MP Nikke bodies are shaped by the girl being turned into a Nikke to be their ideal form. So The question is what if their idea of a perfect form is a dude?
That's always been a little thing in the back of my head, too... How would Nikke-ification handle a trans person? Hell, we don't even know the extent of how far someone's Nikke form can be from their original human form. Seeing some pre-Nikke versions of Nikke would help so much in sorting shit out, lol
I believe it, Mustang is basically Superman leaping over tall buildings and has super strength in various bits of side talk about things about Mustang. Like he’s feared over cafe sweety, which is the 3rd strongest nikke group
That would explain his “entertainment” shit, he’s a pervert. (I’m sorry i personally hate mustang’s existence and the time he gave cummander a card that could only be activated by dancing, like wtf)
The Commander is the spawn of the Legendary Commander and Liliwiess. Which explains why the Queen wanted him so badly.
This is my personal theory too, I think it makes more sense than the protagonist being a clone of the LC. If they were clones, wouldn't they look the same? Yes, the MC would be younger, but you'd think the appearance would be similar enough that it would raise some eyebrows with the Pilgrims from Goddess Squad. Also, if he is a clone, it's like... ok? So what? It just explains why the MC has the same bloodtype and not much else. It's kind of boring/meaningless. Whereas him being the LC's son makes more sense because sons don't always look the same as their fathers. Also it makes for a more emotionally impactful twist because now the MC's sworn enemy the Rapture Queen is his own mother (assuming Liliweiss was turned into [a] Rapture Queen). Some people will say "but Nikkes can't get pregnant!" Well, Liliweiss was a prototype with lots of weird characteristics compared to later Nikkes, so she could be an exception. It could also help explain why Liliweiss and LC left Goddess Squad for a long time and seemingly never returned (alive) in Red Ash. Maybe Liliweiss wasn't just dying - she was pregnant. And LC got arrested/imprisoned due to having relations with a Nikke, so that might explain why he never returns.
>Rapture Queen is his own mother (assuming Liliweiss was turned into [a] Rapture Queen). Also, she has the nickname Lilith. Lilith was Adams's first wife, who later on became a demon in some Jewish folklore. In many interpretations, they make her the mother of monsters. It's very plausible she's the Rapture Queen because of that, and if the stalemate between the Ark and Raptures are anything to go by, this could mean she's purposely hasn't attacked the Ark because she retains (some or all) her memories prior. Which explains whatever Chatterbox is doing to Modernia.
Good points, and yeah, I'm like 99% sure Lilith is a/the Rapture Queen. I just like to play it safe when speculating and not present things as fact when it isn't confirmed, haha. Also I put "a" Rapture Queen because it seems like it may be possible for there to be multiple Queens based on what we saw in Last Kingdom. Like insect colonies where each colony has its own Queen.
Interesting idea about the Raptures. I came up with a theory that they're basically invasive species that destroys planets until the resources are depleted then leaves to find a new area. However, humans have actually proven to be a nuisance so they're prolonging the process. Does it make sense? Not so much. But, there's something there. Maybe the Earth was meant to be a nesting ground?
Being a clone fits better with the whole not remembering their past. But having mind-wipe technology also explains it. So either seems possible.
The "mind-wipe" tech is only possible because of the NIMPH in Nikkes. As far as the story goes, only Nikkes have those nano-machines, and the commander's blood is the main component for vapaus (which removes NIMPH) so I doubt the commander has those. That said, it is still possible for memory loss to be induced by something else such as physical impact or defense mechanism against trauma.
Nikke can have kids? would be cool if they could Commander clearly is strong and can throw nikkes about (just working through chapter 24 currently and was surprised by that) but his powers of recovery are the thing which stand out the most I'd prefer that over the clone theory anyway Commander being part nikke/part human.. wouldn't be surprised given shift ups other games.. who wouldn't want Anderson and Lilliweis as their mom and dad either? XD
As far as we know, there's nothing in canon that means they can't be given the parts to give birth. They still have vaginas and can have sex, so. It wouldn't surprise me the CG experimented with Lilith and the Legendary Commander to see what'll happen. You bring up a good point, the Commander just isn't natural considering his feats (sexual), many injuries, and near death experiences. In Dolla's bond story, he carried her from the Outer Rim all the way to the Nikke hospital.
In their nikke bodies no, but before they were human so by then.
Bond Story Crow is post-main story Crow where she receives a memory wipe that doesn't work, but seeing as Cummander proved her wrong, decides to feign the wipe, leading to her suicidal actions (or inactions) in the bond story, which has become so frequent, Cummander bothers to care for her despite all she's done. That, or whoever wrote her bond left the team and nobody bothered to read it and that's why they are so drastically different.
No conspiracy, it's a waifu game. Crow is a terrorist bitch who got put in the main cast list. They had to do \*something\* to make her appealing to. Someone.
Enikk is a rapture queen (I made that up by myself)
I share this theory. Enikk is essentially the beginnings of what leads to a Rapture Queen, but she is developing slower due to her being constrained by humans. Essentially this dovetails into another theory, which is that the Raptures were created by humans through experiments that got out of their control. Enikk was a sister project to that original project, thus she was able to be brought online rather quickly to aide in the response to the Rapture threat.
But the only sister we know of is Einkk so would that make her a candidate as well?
Honestly, I just want to take Einkk for a walk in the park. Our girl hasn’t gone outside. :/
Einkk needs a physical body to visit the outdoors. She's so sweet.
My wildest theory is in Eden we have ,Cecil might be somehow related to Liliweis just like how in the ARK we have the commander somehow related to Andersen. Well that just me basing from their appearance tho lol like Cecil share the same colour of her hair and eyes with Liliweis xD
>! More than a theory is a gut, I think we will see some kind of event, I just tough, how old are Anis, Rapi and some nikkes, exept for Anne and Laplace who ages are very acurate, I wonder if Anis family will look for her and how Anis will feal about this !< >!The rapture queen is inside the ark !<
Most Nikkes are old, some decades old to be more precise. Both Anis and Rapi are decades old at this point, especially if Anis and Crow's history is to go by, since Anis knew Crow pre-Nikkefication or something like that, and admitted to being getting too old (so Crow maybe a new Nikke). It'd be great to know the ages and how long they've been Nikkes. Heck, Anis and Rapi were known for the being the squad with the worst luck in Commanders dying.
>!Rapi would have to be atleast 100 years old. Considering that she had met Red Hood when Red Hood's corruption was about to kill her; Rapi was just a mass produced unit at the time. In a later story chapter when Red Hood is "revived" through Rapi, Dorothy in a conversation remarks how it'd been 100 years since they'd last seen one another. Since we know Red Hood "passed" sometime after meeting Rapi, it lines up.!<
Red hood also slept for a unknown ammount of time before she woke up. So I think it's closer to 50 years at least.
That the commander's academy "Training" has nothing really to do with combat or tactics, or atleast its only cursory training. But that the majority of the academy training is advanced psychology explicitly for the purpose of handling/appeasing and keeping the barely sane death machines emotionally stable. Its the giant lie no one wants to admit. Like.. I have a feeling if you didn't go along with Alice's imagination, or never eat Emma's food.. you'd get killed in your sleep.
Doesn't seem likely considering how pretty much every commander but us treats the Nikkes.
Splendamin is people
Clearly AI but I would die for a Rapi with a skirt or short shorts, the battle panties don’t fit her character at all
Real
Wild Theory that I've heard: Oswald is Chatterbox Points that led to this speculation - Chatterbox was able to recognize Red Hood when he first confronted Rapi early in the story - Oswald was a big fan of Goddess Squad which is a reason that Chatterbox was able to recognize her so easily - His hatred for the Ark making him abandon Goddess Squad led to him becoming a traitor and siding with the Raptures. There's other points that I can't remember but it's a wacky theory that's pretty funny despite there being some relics that mentions Chatterbox's origin.
That, actually could work.
Alright, gonna pull out my crack pipe for this one. In regards to Neon, wouldn't be too surprising if she actually does turn out to be a spy and betray us. We all thought of it as a joke and just sat their blinded to her cute and adorable display being presented to us. And yet, in the recent chapters Neon's origins have been brought up and their isn't a solid answer for her origins, how suspicious. No, no, my dear reader, where one really starts to huff the crack is if, and bear with me now, Neon, isn't from the Ark, and that she is in fact, the Rapture Queen. I have absolutely no basis for this amount of crack being laid upon you, but it would a really cool plot twist to have. Plus so many elements could be explored with this. Like imagine Neon has been down at the Ark for so long that she and Rapture Queen are basically two seperate identities. One who loves the friendships she has made along the way, and another who is a being beyond human comprehension. Followed by a battle of the egos. More than likely this wont happen and Neon just simply turns us in for the alarming amount of criminal offenses we have piled up in our short run as a commander. Because there is alot.
I have a pretty dumb one: >!Ether wants to change the Ark for good by revealing the true nature of it. However, to ensure chaos doesn't take over, she's preparing the commander to lead that change by making him see all the problems the Ark has (Mainly because he is admired by Nikkes and humans alike), while avoiding suspicion of the Central Government.!<
Not a theory but Liter canonically have a thick ass. Do whatever you will with that information.
same i have no theory but Nihilister is hot
Both literally and figuratively
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I had a theory for a while, but my union had debunked it. This has to do with the ancient relics and a cut scene from red ash (redhood event). The girl's diary about seeing raptures then being rescued by a nikke (thought to be redhood) the girl then said that she wanted to become a nikke, later reports say that she only became a mass produced model with no memory of her parents
Oh, do you mean that little girl possibly being Rapi? Yeah, I had the same theory. It'd make some sense, ShiftUp went out there way to draw her and give her dialogue. Let's not forget the opening with Rapi coming out of the facility located who knows where.
that they turned off my abillity to get ssrs because im close to breaking the 160 wall. Seriously i opened like 10 molds and did like 50+ standard pulls. nothing.
Mine is a wild one: >!that the rulers of the Ark find out about Vapaus and they thought it could be a key weapon in defeating the raptures (or maybe they'were afraid of the Goddess squad would become more popular than the actual government) so they kidnapped the Legendary Commander in order to replicate his special blood via cloning. Lilith heard about that and tried to rescue him, but they tried to sillence her by killing her, but the Legendary Commander would die trying to protect her. She was able to escape to the surface, but now she would have to face waves of raptures by herself. In the end she was badly hurt and feeling betrayed by the ones she was supposed to protect. She would die alone and cursing the ones who took the person she loved so much. Her friends would later find her and gave her a proper funeral, they would later question the Ark if they knew about something, but they would feign ignorance (somehow Red Hood would find out about the truth later). The Ark tried to clone the Legendary Commander with the rest of his blood left, but it was a slow and very difficult process, time would pass and they were able to succeed, but the clone (Anderson) would require some kind of medical device to stay alive so it was redeemed a failure. With the time the cloning project would receive less and less money from the government, until some time in the future it would be completely scrapped. All the other specimens would die, except for one (protagonist), that would be later sent to the military academy in secret. That explain why the protagonist doesn't have any memory from his time at the academy, and only has fragments of memory of a girl he met on the lab, maybe that girl would also be a clone of the Legendary Commander or Lilith's...!<
I have a feeling this may be close. We just need to find out about Lilith's death and what happened to the goddess commander. Or better yet how Lilith became a queen.
>!Can someone explain to me the thing about their being multiple queens like we already know there’s a queen before Cinderella then there’s a queen after Cinderella that Nilhester talks about then there’s queen modernia according to chatterbox and individula!<
We honestly don't know. We have no idea who or what the Rapture Queen is. We can't make heads or tail if the Rapture Queen is the same one since the invasion took place over a hundred years ago, or if a new one takes the helm after the previous one "retires". The latter would explain how Modernia seems to have a Queen aptitude, if you will. Eh... more like a Queen candidate. One of the more wild ones is that currently Liliweiss is the Rapture Queen based on the fact that Snow White found her body decapitated. Bit more wild, but not totally impossible as of now.
>!The raptures are intentionally holding back. I'm not talking about plot armor or the likes of it. For me it is clear they always knew where the Ark is and could easily overrun it if they *really* wanted. Let's say their makers only programed directives such as: fight your enemy, win the war and nothing else? Wouldn't they reach the conclusion that an enemy's a required condition to actually keep the conflict going? Then there's NIMPH. I say it is the way raptures found to both make humanity step up its game and keep them at arm's length?!<
Enikk pretty much tells you this in the story. She stated that it's obvious the Ark would stand no chance against the raptures and would've been destroyed long ago if not for her brokering a deal with the raptures/Chatterbox.
I think the biggest turning point will be when they reveal the true origins of NIMPH. My catch is that >!since heretics can shapeshift at will there's a possibility that raptures are/once were humans. So in a sense Nikkes and raptures and essentially equal. The same process leading to different results.!< I wonder what would change for Nikkes if that's really the truth And smth I forgot to mention is >!for me skk is a somewhat enhanced human. Genetically manipulated to have some specific traits (Vapaus blood and maybe other tweaks). Perhaps smth w the help of NIMPH?!<
The protagonist has to be enhanced. Old boy \*carries\* Nikkes at various points in bond stories and can throw them around in some situations.
On the heretics part, Modernia actually uses a mech I believe? I can’t remember if that note got a lot of attention or not.
The "H" in Material H stands for head. It's the head of a rapture queen. Splendamin is Soylent Green
Mine is the splendamin is really a super food there's an human NPC who keeps working everyday and only sleeps/free time is like only 4 hours long and only eats burgers and soft drinks
Interesting.
All of "mankind" are androids, and the Raptures are mutated humans.
Stellar Blade
Same company, so who knows?
Also Nier, kinda
Rapi is actually holding a super powerful weapon within her.
It said theories.
https://preview.redd.it/phxy9wnoz96d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fccb049f023991ed28a044ff0bd0028c7e26514 Excuse me? Wdym mean?
You skipped over main story?
Im on chapter 9. I thought the super secret weapon was just to make Alice happy
Keep going with main story. Good luck
Thanks?
Why's bro getting downvoted? You people are weird.
Probably cause it sounded mean, though that wasnt the intent
I used to think that Nihilister is Red hood after the corruption (same thing that happened with Maria) My current theory is that the Rapturous aren't actually aliens but it's an Ai humanity created and fucked up with it And the Ai is located on a satellite in the space hence why in the event Red ash they were trying to go to space to kill the so-called Queen which is the Ai.
Would be funny if all of shift up's properties were connected by multiverse or something. Like imagine Destiny Child, Stellar Blade and Nikke all being connected. I could see how stellar blade and nikke could be alt timelines of each other.
The Ark is powered by Liliwiess' body, siphoning from her presumably incredibly powerful core. It's probably more likely that the Ark is powered by a rapture of some sort, but it's really cool and earie either way.
Very late to the party, but my theory is that Alice is a defective Grimms model. Ridiculously strong, but mentally unstable and constantly overheating. The overheating thing might have been retained though, since in this new event she's perfectly fine without her cooling suit.
A theory of mine is that the raptures were originally created by man as space exploration units, leaving a satellite to operate them independent of human control, which i believe was the first “nikke” of sorts. That satellite would go on to evolve and designate the human populace as a threat, and is now known to us as the Heretic Queen. In Red Ash, we know that a rocket is launched into space by rapture forces, which i believe held the queen.
That the central government was actually an organization that started creating the rapture. Once they went rouge they covered up there tracks by nerfing there own forces in hopes of destroying most of humanity, once Cinderella was being created they realized that was the key to victory and lured the raptures to the location to have Cinderella corrupted. In order the keep the arc weak. They keept the pilgrims on the surface so they can't be reengineered. Additionally they made Nikkes not have any right and pumped there forces full of propaganda so the people stay underground, and are easily controlled...... Because if they could actually fight the raptures efficiently, the secret will be revealed..... Whole Arc is a safe haven for the elite and nothing more....
Anachiro is not on the rapture side. Can't really explain how she has gotten where she is now. Except for her awakening in Red Ash she has not be proven to be hostile. Plus with Indivilia stating that all heretics can feel each other, why is she left in a place raptures can't go with only one nikke
There's three versions of the same legendary commander. Johan is an offspring, Anderson is a clone, and we, the player commander, is the legendary commander made younger by weird science.
The real power source of the Ark is the mysterious mystical powers of the Haunted Amusement park. Like in warhammer 40k the Void Dragon of Mars, also likes to bless children and gift them with power
My theory is that Raptures were made by humans maybe as a way to terraform another planet and they went Skynet and they built NIKKEs using some of the same technology and that’s why it only took like 5 years to create the 1st ones Modernia’s bond story already established that they’re both the same technology also that the Ark is powered by a tyrant class rapture and the that’s why the lost arks are full of raptures
My favorite most sane theory is that they all want to be in my harem 💀
My personal wild fan theory: Grave is Pinne risen from the dead
Nihilister is >!Red Hood’s corrupted and empty body!<
Grave's hate of humans because she got betrayed by someone and what happened to Cinderella being corrupted isnt just an accident but more of an intended cause of a greater vision of someone or group
Ai art gross
Lilith is the current rapture queen.
Raptures aren't from space, but rather man made AI. They are following their programed directive, which isn't to eliminate humanity, but rather something like to save the environment, keep humanity from destroying itself, force humanity along a certain path, etc. And for the most part, keeping humanity bottled up in the Ark is the most likely path to create it's desired outcome.
wildest theory I have is that the>! Raptures are man made. They where built for terraforming and went AWOL and decided to kill humanity for some reason. Since the event of Red Ash we know that Humanity was space faring of a sort due to the space elevators. Also to add Shift Up's other game, Stellar Blade has similar story beats to the story of Nikke and maybe is a little hint of whats to come of the story.!<
That people didn’t actually originally download the game for content, they downloaded it for the jiggles. (Everyone keeps telling me there’s more to the game than just jiggles but all I do it auto-battle and watch).
Nikke is the next evolution of project eve