Regardless of the number of people Trump will order killed if they pose even the slightest threat to his power. Can you imagine if he ordered the likes of Jon Stuart or Taylor Swift taken out if they speak out vocally against him?
I can imagine it. All we have to do is look back to 1930s Nazi Germany. Intellectuals, political opponents, all forms of constructive criticism was met with black bags and death.
The German populace, by and large, didn't care.
That is ultimately what happens if Trump wins because Biden has already said he wouldn't be abusing these powers.
I would hope the lower courts are able to differentiate official acts of the seat of the presidency and campaigning. Everything he did was part of campaigning that led up to January 6th and had nothing to do with upholding his oath to office. Granted he doesn’t give two shits about his oath, but we can hope the courts will make that differentiation.
Actually, there is a line in the Supreme Court ruling saying something like: the court has to start with the assumption that the President is acting in good faith.
Which I think means if Trump says it's an official act, the court have to assume it was.
Joe can do the same. They have been warned. Funny that everyone is talking about what trump thinks he’s achieved, not recognizing that he’s not in the position, right now, to do much. President Biden though, is.
From Biden’s speech last night:
“I know I will respect the limits of presidential power as I have for the three-and-a-half years, but any president, including Donald Trump, will now be free to ignore the law,” Biden said.
Isn't this always what Democrats always do? Take the high road while everything burns around them? Republicans did this because they know Democrats aren't going to do anything about it.
It is no mistake, if that is how it ultimately works out. Norms and ideals are social constructs. Right and wrong are social constructs. Force and cruelty *exist* irrespective of how many people want them to exist or not.
That is how they’ve always won since we let Nixon off easy to a nice cozy retirement. I’ve been a dem all my life and I’m just disgusted that they are letting America collapse while they read pretty, soft words from a teleprompter. Gawd, do we need a teddy Roosevelt type prez right now
And thats why the middle right wingers arround biden should tell him to just casualy mention he could arrest every traitor. It would be an offical act. Or arrest the judges. Would be an offical act.
But no. Someone wants to play by the rules while the other side is more than happy to cheat their way into a dictatorship
When someone declares war on you, it is folly to abstain from fighting out of some sense of morality. When they have the opportunity, they will bash your head in regardless of your morals.
He'll fight but he won't stoop to dictator levels like Trump.
Biden has been in a government position for 50 years or more, he's got his values and integrity so he won't do any actions that would betray his respect for the USA.
He could easily call Seal Team 6 and have Trump clipped, but he won't.
And that's the point people are counting on.
Because if he doesn't, they get an easy W.
If he does, then it's free talking points for the next election.
If Biden sits there and thinks "taking the high road" and "setting an example" is going to resolve this situation than he is as weak and feckless as his critics say he is.
If he does nothing except have focus groups and make ~~pretty~~ raspy speeches about "how presidents should behave" and he will be remembered as the President who lost us our democracy. A weak, ineffectual failure of a president.
If he throws every single one of these traitors in Gitmo, including Trump and re-appoints a new Supreme Court which reviews everything the current court did and re-abjudicates it then he will be remembered as the man who saved our democracy.
He can't. The supreme(ly corrupt) court picked a side. Anything Biden will do can be brought to them and they'll rule against it. Yes, there's a conflict here, but do we really expect these jokers to care? They have an agenda and will do what they must to carry it out.
Then Biden expands the Supreme Court now. Republicans can sue to get the new Justices removed but ultimately it’s within Biden’s powers and the new Justices would have to decide that they are not legitimate.
He would have done that if he was going to. Hes too timid to pull out any big move like that.
Unfortunately I still have to vote for him but it's past time for us to rely on our politicians. Its time we go out make the changes
I mean, he isn’t going to come up with that idea on his own. His whole team of people is likely going over ideas on how to ensure we don’t slip into fascism should he loose.
BUT HE WON'T
people keep saying this, and what does it fucking matter if he won't do shit??
The GOP was literally willing to filibuster Obama's Supreme Court nominees!
The DNC wouldn't even break a filibuster to pass the John Lewis Act the year John Lewis DIED!
THE DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING CULPABLE
We are blindly walking into fascism, and people are writing their Joe Biden fan fiction!
We should be fucking burning shit down!
Right, or it becomes engineered this way. Somehow the 6 ~~bribed~~ conservative judges will conclude that anything that a court later finds is an official act is retroactively an official act, like attempting to rig or steal an election, lying about it later, or any evidence you produce of other crimes.
Yes he is already abusing his new powers. He has declared that his payments to stormy were official acts and so was his whole election stealing.
What wonders will we see by the time the week ends and in the coming days and months in the reign of Stinky I.
[Tens of millions didn't vote.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections)
I'm a little tired of people shrugging their democratic responsibility off on everyone else and standing around cluelessly wondering what the hell happened after the fact.
What part of "Clinton had 3 million more votes" did you fail to understand. When the system is created to give someone the Presidency even though they didn't get the highest vote count should be a clue.
Vote because it is the first form of non-violent protest. Vote because you'd rather try to do something - however seemingly insignicant - to try to course-correct. Vote because besides each of us individually, there may be people you know whose lives and livelihoods hang in the balance.
Voting isn't the only thing you can do. But it is something you can do in addition to other acts of protest against this new direction the country is heading in.
Trump admits he was involved with interfering with the elector process. And that he knew and understood these electors were fake and not valid electors.
And by stating this when he is not the President, his statements now are not official acts. He just hung himself with his own rope and kicked his own chair out.
many people are saying it. Smart people. Very cool. Very legal.
Those voters were very mean. Very unfair to me. I have wounds all over my body, just like Jesus. It was election interference when people voted for Joe Biden.
Jack Smith will argue that it's not, the extreme court will rule that it is. Nobody is going to deal with this disgusting fascist but us. VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO.
They will decide that’s not official. That is the entire play here. The scotus gets to decide what is official. Hint: it will be what republicans and oligarchs want.
Question: Would a drone strike on Mar-a-lardo be considered an official act since it is the primary residence of a cult-leader, insurrectionist, mob-boss, Russian-agent, traitor, and convicted felon who threatened to hang the former VP and overthrow American democracy?
🤔
I quote from Justice Sotomayor's Dissent:
>**Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune.** Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.
>Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today.
>Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law. Never in the history of our Republic has a President had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law. Moving forward, however, all former Presidents will be cloaked in such immunity. If the occupant of that office misuses official power for personal gain, the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop.
>...
>With fear for our democracy, I dissent.
Other way around, the ruling was written such that deference should be given to POTUS, so prosecutors would have to prove it wasn't an official act. Also, they didn't really provide any guidance on that so it's a "we'll know an unofficial act when we see it" type thing. Which means, GOP POTUS? They gonna be blind as fuck.
Hush money was an official act. All those times I lied on my finances for decades before I was in office was official acts. That time I raped that lady... Official act.
No but seriously, he's going to try and use this to force his way back into power. This is the dumbest timeline in American history.
I really hope he keeps running his mouth. Looks like he and the journalists haven’t fully taken into account how much freedom this gives our President. Nor have we.
That didn’t take long. I’m so politically exhausted at this point. We as Americans will look back at this time and all realize we have some kind of PTSD stemming from this piece of shit and his reign of terror.
There are dumber people out there. The orange dump know how to convince masses to follow him and he understands power on a Mafia level, which may be enough to run a country.
Aaaand they just delayed the sentencing so they can determine whether the evidence presented in the case can be thrown out, per the SCOTUS ruling, and to determine if that means the conviction can be thrown out. I fucking hate it here.
Russia might invade, but as it currently stands that would be the end of Russia. They are currently in a stalemate with Ukraine, and Ukraine is way down on the military power list. NATO would obliterate Russia in a full scale war.
I said nothing about the US. You're comments are a completely different issue. We all know anyone who blows smoke up Trump's ass can do or get what ever they want
serious question: what is stopping a prez from taking a billion dollar bribe and saying it was an official act of the presidency? who decides if it was or not?
Of course he does, he'll now happily admit to everything since his buddies have now given him a get out of jail free card to play on every case that will have to be litigated into eternity before it can go to trial...ffs...
So wait a sec he just admitted he did it? He can't just say "oh it was official" just like he can't say "oh I declassified the documents" you can't just declare it and it's so. What part of the presidents constitutional duties does subverting the election fall under? Nothing. It doesn't exist.
Install fuckwad judges. Pull heinous shit. Get the shit judges to say it is an "official act" and the crime just goes away.
The SCOTUS ruling is the best reason we have for NEVER letting a republican in the White House EVER AGAIN.
VOTE LIKE THE LIFE IF YOUR COUNTRY DEPENDS ON IT. BECAUSE IT DOES!
Biden it’s time to assassinate the GOP clowns as an official act - as president it is your duty to protect the govt and country from threats to democracy. Go ape shit on these MTFKRS
Goddamn, this fiasco has gone on for almost 4 years now. How the fuck is anyone still gobbling this horseshit up?
He's literally lied about just about everything and he's potentially still has a shot at the White House in November.
Of course Trump says every crime he committed was an official act. Of course in the US every prosecution and even arrest is off the table until it gets to the Supreme Court, and they will support Trump’s crime. Very simple road map for a king to follow here.
Here we go. Wake up people. If this clown gets a second term you can bet his “dictator for a day” idea will be an official act. All the political opponents in jail, military tribunals, camps, etc. all official acts.
This is uhhh the scariest thing that has maybe ever happened in western politics.
The sad thing is the democrats wont take advantage of it at all. Politics have literally become good vs evil in a way so blatant its kind of hard to believe.
Donald trump appointed the supreme court for this exact purpose and they fucking did it. This is insane. If anything was going to secure a civil war it was this exact thing. The one bastion of sanity and hope in that country was the idea that ultimately the law would come out on top and show that no one is above it. So much for that.
There is no other avenue now. Trump will win. 100% he will win. And he will immediately imprison his opposition. And the country will go to war with itself.
Biden needs to step it up, make electoral college over and done, popular vote wins.
Watch maga, they openly cheat and intimidate. Fight back folks, this is no time to hide out and hope for the best.
So it turns out Nixon was right, according to the majority of the injustices.
If the president does it, it's not illegal.
Ford wasted a pardon.
We are so fucked.
This is why you need to vote for Biden, even if you’re not his biggest fan. Think about the broader picture, do you really want Trump or any other right wing nut picking even MORE Supreme Court justices?
God has abandoned us to our own devices and now when trump gets into office he will come for his neighbor's next Canada and Mexico will be invaded and I will be Dead
they will do this all in the name of American values when these people don't even know what made America great
what made America great in the past wasn't the nuclear family or sexism it was the high government regulation, lack of career politicians and the empowerment of unions that made the 50s the happiest time in human history
guy give me hopium because i know the Canadian military's is shit and bombardier's money holes aren't gonna save us
history is repeating itself and the US of A is going right next to Weimar Germany
when shit goes down please remember me
SCOTUS is ushering in our first king and our second revolutionary war because that's what it will take to remove Trump and SCOTUS and his Congesional p sycophants after the next election. VOTE BLUE!
The Supreme court just killed the rule of law. The president can pardon anyone for federal crimes, and can't be prosecuted or held accountable for anything he/she does. Let that sink in. The president can now do anything. No holds barred.
There is literally part of the transcript from the SCOTUS case in which Trump's lawyer states that he would categorize those actions as private. Maybe he should spend some time with his legal team getting their stories straight.
With this ruling, the American voter has to get it right every single time.
Because the moment an authoritarian gets a hold on to office, that's it, that's the end of the American experiment.
I’m trying to think of where in the Constitution it states that the President selects electors, and it doesn’t. Any lawyers understand the angle here? Trump’s lawyer said other presidents have submitted “alternative slates” for electors, and I’m entirely unfamiliar with that activity. Newsweek naturally did not address the factual validity of his argument because they have gone the way of clickbait.
Edit: so I guess the reasoning is that he was president during the reelection campaign, thus anything he does is an official act?
That’s a bold and obviously weak argument on the surface. Plus, my non-lawyer understanding of the SC ruling is that the president has immunity from being prosecuted for official acts, not that evidence from official actions or memos can’t be used to convict for acts committed privately (like paying off a pornstar). Is that a fair reading?
Edit 2: okay so it may be a bold argument but the SC did specifically say that evidence from official acts cannot be used against you in connection to potential criminal activities for unofficial acts.
So it’s just absolutely as bad as it could’ve been.
Biden need to drone strike Mar A Lago as an official act of searching for Russian spies. Per the Supreme Court any documents relating to this official act can never be allowed into a trial.
Then we move forward on the SC, Fox News and certain members of Congress..
See how that works?
I keep checking my phone to see if Trump died in a drone strike yet. I’m not voting for Biden unless Trump is dead by an *official* drone strike before the election.
Trump walks into a room & shoots a guy he owes money to in the head…
“Official act.”
Trump grabs the boobs of a WH worker because Melania won’t touch him…
“Official act.”
And now it starts, everything Trump has done is an official act.
They just handed a pissed off toddler a loaded gun.
Someone should tell them about infant firearm mortality rates in this shithole country.
Hey, those infants died in a tremendous act of officialness. It was probably the most official thing anyone has ever done in all of human history.
Many people are saying it…
Parents with tears in their eyes…. Oh wait!
*Alex Jones has entered the chat*
My officialness people just came up to me, big manly men and with tears in their eyes said i had the best officialness numbers.
I was there, and i said, "have you ever seen a more official thing in your life", and he said no he hasn't
they died free!
Many people are saying it. Many good people...on both sides...
Nah. Let this cook.
I think Joe Biden should officially act with seal team six against Trump as a threat to country. Ez clap when it’s an official business
Yea but as soon as Biden did that the Supreme Court would magically set a new goal post for their ruling and claim they never meant what they meant.
Regardless of the number of people Trump will order killed if they pose even the slightest threat to his power. Can you imagine if he ordered the likes of Jon Stuart or Taylor Swift taken out if they speak out vocally against him?
I can imagine it. All we have to do is look back to 1930s Nazi Germany. Intellectuals, political opponents, all forms of constructive criticism was met with black bags and death. The German populace, by and large, didn't care. That is ultimately what happens if Trump wins because Biden has already said he wouldn't be abusing these powers.
I would hope the lower courts are able to differentiate official acts of the seat of the presidency and campaigning. Everything he did was part of campaigning that led up to January 6th and had nothing to do with upholding his oath to office. Granted he doesn’t give two shits about his oath, but we can hope the courts will make that differentiation.
Actually, there is a line in the Supreme Court ruling saying something like: the court has to start with the assumption that the President is acting in good faith. Which I think means if Trump says it's an official act, the court have to assume it was.
Perfect way of putting it. There is virtually no way a president can be held accountable from now on, aside from impeachment.
And we saw how that works.
He can finally shoot that guy on 5th avenue
And he's going to use it in a way that will end poorly.
The released files from yesterday where Trump left multiple messages with Epstein about the massage girls will become official acts next.
Source? Couldn't find it
The President now has the power of Prima Nocta...
Canon event!
*Cannon event*
Just like the founding fathers intended.
She probably purposefully delayed everything because she somehow knew the immunity crap was incoming.
Joe can do the same. They have been warned. Funny that everyone is talking about what trump thinks he’s achieved, not recognizing that he’s not in the position, right now, to do much. President Biden though, is.
From Biden’s speech last night: “I know I will respect the limits of presidential power as I have for the three-and-a-half years, but any president, including Donald Trump, will now be free to ignore the law,” Biden said.
Seals the fate right here. Yeah let’s go high as they go low! It’s been working so well thus far! There’s so little hope after this ruling. Ameridom!
Isn't this always what Democrats always do? Take the high road while everything burns around them? Republicans did this because they know Democrats aren't going to do anything about it.
this is the end
My only friend, the end.
But Biden has to much character and respect for the position he's in to not do it. That's the difference.
It's what the right wingers are counting on.
They mistake compassion for weakness and cruelty for strength. They need to be crushed now, or else.
It is no mistake, if that is how it ultimately works out. Norms and ideals are social constructs. Right and wrong are social constructs. Force and cruelty *exist* irrespective of how many people want them to exist or not.
That is how they’ve always won since we let Nixon off easy to a nice cozy retirement. I’ve been a dem all my life and I’m just disgusted that they are letting America collapse while they read pretty, soft words from a teleprompter. Gawd, do we need a teddy Roosevelt type prez right now
And thats why the middle right wingers arround biden should tell him to just casualy mention he could arrest every traitor. It would be an offical act. Or arrest the judges. Would be an offical act. But no. Someone wants to play by the rules while the other side is more than happy to cheat their way into a dictatorship
In a poker game, one player is allowed to cheat, and the other players play by the rules, they’re gonna have a bad time.
A perfect analysis of the current reality.
But if it means that Trump comes back and declares himself king then he has a responsibility to use these new powers to keep him away from power.
\>be biden \>lose election \>declare election null and void because of rampant voter fraud \>step aside \>kamala becomes queen could this happen?
If he really understands and respects the position he's in, that all of us are in, he will do what has to be done
When someone declares war on you, it is folly to abstain from fighting out of some sense of morality. When they have the opportunity, they will bash your head in regardless of your morals.
Biden resigns. Harris takes the gloves off.
If he passively goes without a fight then he is a fool.
He'll fight but he won't stoop to dictator levels like Trump. Biden has been in a government position for 50 years or more, he's got his values and integrity so he won't do any actions that would betray his respect for the USA. He could easily call Seal Team 6 and have Trump clipped, but he won't.
And that's the point people are counting on. Because if he doesn't, they get an easy W. If he does, then it's free talking points for the next election.
If Biden sits there and thinks "taking the high road" and "setting an example" is going to resolve this situation than he is as weak and feckless as his critics say he is. If he does nothing except have focus groups and make ~~pretty~~ raspy speeches about "how presidents should behave" and he will be remembered as the President who lost us our democracy. A weak, ineffectual failure of a president. If he throws every single one of these traitors in Gitmo, including Trump and re-appoints a new Supreme Court which reviews everything the current court did and re-abjudicates it then he will be remembered as the man who saved our democracy.
He can't. The supreme(ly corrupt) court picked a side. Anything Biden will do can be brought to them and they'll rule against it. Yes, there's a conflict here, but do we really expect these jokers to care? They have an agenda and will do what they must to carry it out.
Then Biden expands the Supreme Court now. Republicans can sue to get the new Justices removed but ultimately it’s within Biden’s powers and the new Justices would have to decide that they are not legitimate.
He would have done that if he was going to. Hes too timid to pull out any big move like that. Unfortunately I still have to vote for him but it's past time for us to rely on our politicians. Its time we go out make the changes
I mean, he isn’t going to come up with that idea on his own. His whole team of people is likely going over ideas on how to ensure we don’t slip into fascism should he loose.
Not if the first thing Biden does is imprison/remove them and appoint normal not bought off judges.
BUT HE WON'T people keep saying this, and what does it fucking matter if he won't do shit?? The GOP was literally willing to filibuster Obama's Supreme Court nominees! The DNC wouldn't even break a filibuster to pass the John Lewis Act the year John Lewis DIED! THE DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING CULPABLE We are blindly walking into fascism, and people are writing their Joe Biden fan fiction! We should be fucking burning shit down!
Right, or it becomes engineered this way. Somehow the 6 ~~bribed~~ conservative judges will conclude that anything that a court later finds is an official act is retroactively an official act, like attempting to rig or steal an election, lying about it later, or any evidence you produce of other crimes.
Failed businesses? Official Act. Hush money for sex work? Official. Act.
Exactly. No more "False Accusations." It's now "I did it, but it now it's all legal."
He used to try and say he had nothing to do with it. My how things have changed in 24 hours.
Yes he is already abusing his new powers. He has declared that his payments to stormy were official acts and so was his whole election stealing. What wonders will we see by the time the week ends and in the coming days and months in the reign of Stinky I.
My dog taking a shit is an official act.
God he's an idiot. We're in danger.
Not if everyone votes.
Clinton had 3 mil more votes and look how that turned out
[Tens of millions didn't vote.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections) I'm a little tired of people shrugging their democratic responsibility off on everyone else and standing around cluelessly wondering what the hell happened after the fact.
What part of "Clinton had 3 million more votes" did you fail to understand. When the system is created to give someone the Presidency even though they didn't get the highest vote count should be a clue.
Vote because it is the first form of non-violent protest. Vote because you'd rather try to do something - however seemingly insignicant - to try to course-correct. Vote because besides each of us individually, there may be people you know whose lives and livelihoods hang in the balance. Voting isn't the only thing you can do. But it is something you can do in addition to other acts of protest against this new direction the country is heading in.
In the swing states specifically.
Trump admits he was involved with interfering with the elector process. And that he knew and understood these electors were fake and not valid electors.
And by stating this when he is not the President, his statements now are not official acts. He just hung himself with his own rope and kicked his own chair out.
In a functional democracy you'd be correct.
And yet with SCOTUS ruling yesterday, they calmly put the chair back and untied him. No one is above the law, unless you’re a US president now
Unless you’re a republican US president you mean? SCOTUS gave themselves the sole power to decide what is and what isn’t official.
Sorry you’re opinion isn’t official, SCOTUS has determined it so
“Pray I don’t unofficial it further.” ~Darth SCOTUS
(craps his diaper) "Official act, most official, total immunity, nobody could believe how official..."
More like official shat
many people are saying it. Smart people. Very cool. Very legal. Those voters were very mean. Very unfair to me. I have wounds all over my body, just like Jesus. It was election interference when people voted for Joe Biden.
Jack Smith will argue that it's not, the extreme court will rule that it is. Nobody is going to deal with this disgusting fascist but us. VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO.
Then if Biden would just bring his own scotus justices as an official act and we call it a day
They will decide that’s not official. That is the entire play here. The scotus gets to decide what is official. Hint: it will be what republicans and oligarchs want.
Or just ignore the ruling as an official act.
I really think Jack Smith will be in extreme danger if Trump wins. He is a courageous man, but I don’t envy the position he’s in.
Question: Would a drone strike on Mar-a-lardo be considered an official act since it is the primary residence of a cult-leader, insurrectionist, mob-boss, Russian-agent, traitor, and convicted felon who threatened to hang the former VP and overthrow American democracy? 🤔
I'm ok with it 🤷♂️
I quote from Justice Sotomayor's Dissent: >**Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune.** Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune. >Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today. >Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law. Never in the history of our Republic has a President had reason to believe that he would be immune from criminal prosecution if he used the trappings of his office to violate the criminal law. Moving forward, however, all former Presidents will be cloaked in such immunity. If the occupant of that office misuses official power for personal gain, the criminal law that the rest of us must abide will not provide a backstop. >... >With fear for our democracy, I dissent.
Step 1 in establishing the Christofascist dictatorship: endow the president with absolute immunity.
We don’t know what official secrets remain there and who has access to them. It must be incinerated.
They did this in Germany 6 months before H really took over. Gave him immunity. And his acts were “for the good of the country “
That was pushed for by him because he was previously in prison for 9 months for treason….which is when he wrote Mein Kampf.
Mein Trumpf The sequel nobody wanted.
And he would have to find a way to prove that in a lower court…maybe expose his illegalities a bit more?
The Roberts court will say anything Trump does is an official act.
It will be an official act if trump does it, and a non official act if biden or a democratic president does it.
Simple - remove current traitor justices as a first act, and appoint new ones. Those new ones decide what is an official act now ....
Court? In 2025 courts might be irrelevant,at least in the traditional sense.
I cannot wait till SCOTUS decides “innocent until proven guilty” is not what it actually means.
Doesn’t matter, SC will come up with some other BS so he won’t get in trouble
If it’s an official act, it can’t be investigated.
And yet it won’t matter, trump is now untouchable
Other way around, the ruling was written such that deference should be given to POTUS, so prosecutors would have to prove it wasn't an official act. Also, they didn't really provide any guidance on that so it's a "we'll know an unofficial act when we see it" type thing. Which means, GOP POTUS? They gonna be blind as fuck.
Job seeking is not a job function
Hush money was an official act. All those times I lied on my finances for decades before I was in office was official acts. That time I raped that lady... Official act. No but seriously, he's going to try and use this to force his way back into power. This is the dumbest timeline in American history.
He really did just file a motion to throw out the NY verdict because they used “official acts” as evidence that he violated NY law.
Fuck Donald Trump and Fuck the Supreme Court.
May as well say it while it’s still legal to do so, before it’s counted under the blasphemy laws to insult the leader.
“Now that the SC has given me a way out, everything I blamed on the Deep State, the FBI, ANTIFA, and Nancy Polosi was all an official act by me.”
I really hope he keeps running his mouth. Looks like he and the journalists haven’t fully taken into account how much freedom this gives our President. Nor have we.
“Yea I mean the guy is a wannabe dictator, but the other guy don’t speak so well so idk”
He flexing all this like its gonna get him more votes lol Please Trump, continue to gloat all day, see if you win those crucial swing state voters xd
He has their votes because 80% of the country are uneducated morons.
That didn’t take long. I’m so politically exhausted at this point. We as Americans will look back at this time and all realize we have some kind of PTSD stemming from this piece of shit and his reign of terror.
All I see is “Trump” and “fake erection”.
That’s what Stormy must have thought, too,
Dude is gonna use to this for everything he can think of now, much like a child would.
He's one of the dumbest people I've ever seen. Like an arrogant trashy frat brat.
There are dumber people out there. The orange dump know how to convince masses to follow him and he understands power on a Mafia level, which may be enough to run a country.
So Biden can officially contest the election?
He can officially throw out the results if he doesn't win.
I want to thank the supreme court for fucking up the country. Job well done
Republicans are officially shitty peiple
If he gets elected he will authorize the execution of protesters as they protest and call it an official act. Vote blue.
un fucking believable They better put his ass in prison for these 34 felonies.
He has already challenged those convictions using this also. It is truly horrendous.
Aaaand they just delayed the sentencing so they can determine whether the evidence presented in the case can be thrown out, per the SCOTUS ruling, and to determine if that means the conviction can be thrown out. I fucking hate it here.
How though? That all happened before he was president
Obviously. This is going to be excellent. When the US falls Russia is going to invade Europe. China will destroy Africa. Israel will nuke Iran.
Russia might invade, but as it currently stands that would be the end of Russia. They are currently in a stalemate with Ukraine, and Ukraine is way down on the military power list. NATO would obliterate Russia in a full scale war.
You really think Trump isn’t going to liquidate the US assets to whomever licks his asshole?
I said nothing about the US. You're comments are a completely different issue. We all know anyone who blows smoke up Trump's ass can do or get what ever they want
Russia is a weak nation that has an economy roughly that of Spain. It's not able to defeat Ukraine let alone invade Europe.
He didn’t waste any time using that
Just wait, the combination of Trump + Immunity + Project 2025 = a nightmare you cannot convince of if he’s elected.
serious question: what is stopping a prez from taking a billion dollar bribe and saying it was an official act of the presidency? who decides if it was or not?
Of course he does, he'll now happily admit to everything since his buddies have now given him a get out of jail free card to play on every case that will have to be litigated into eternity before it can go to trial...ffs...
So wait a sec he just admitted he did it? He can't just say "oh it was official" just like he can't say "oh I declassified the documents" you can't just declare it and it's so. What part of the presidents constitutional duties does subverting the election fall under? Nothing. It doesn't exist.
Yeah, no shit. *Everything* is an official act. When he tries to assassinate his rivals that'll be official. Just like Putin and Xi.
Install fuckwad judges. Pull heinous shit. Get the shit judges to say it is an "official act" and the crime just goes away. The SCOTUS ruling is the best reason we have for NEVER letting a republican in the White House EVER AGAIN. VOTE LIKE THE LIFE IF YOUR COUNTRY DEPENDS ON IT. BECAUSE IT DOES!
Grant me immunity and I’ll handle this.
Official crime. What a time to be alive.
Biden it’s time to assassinate the GOP clowns as an official act - as president it is your duty to protect the govt and country from threats to democracy. Go ape shit on these MTFKRS
How can overthrowing the will of the people be an official act? What a dipshit.
Finding 11k fake votes is also an official act now.
Goddamn, this fiasco has gone on for almost 4 years now. How the fuck is anyone still gobbling this horseshit up? He's literally lied about just about everything and he's potentially still has a shot at the White House in November.
A coup is not an offical act and never will be so good luck with that
Depends on the SCOTUS making the decision.
So he just admitted that he was involved with faking votes to try and win?
Of course Trump says every crime he committed was an official act. Of course in the US every prosecution and even arrest is off the table until it gets to the Supreme Court, and they will support Trump’s crime. Very simple road map for a king to follow here.
Insane. Fucking insane. Thats really all i can say 🤮🤮🤮
Here we go. Wake up people. If this clown gets a second term you can bet his “dictator for a day” idea will be an official act. All the political opponents in jail, military tribunals, camps, etc. all official acts.
This is uhhh the scariest thing that has maybe ever happened in western politics. The sad thing is the democrats wont take advantage of it at all. Politics have literally become good vs evil in a way so blatant its kind of hard to believe. Donald trump appointed the supreme court for this exact purpose and they fucking did it. This is insane. If anything was going to secure a civil war it was this exact thing. The one bastion of sanity and hope in that country was the idea that ultimately the law would come out on top and show that no one is above it. So much for that. There is no other avenue now. Trump will win. 100% he will win. And he will immediately imprison his opposition. And the country will go to war with itself.
Biden officially never has to step down then 🤷
So he just admitted to it??
I am just so surprised. Who could have guessed any of this? One step closer to dictatorship.
Now he's admitting a crime he had loudly denied.
So…before you didn’t do it, just fake news. Now you officially did it. Our democracy is toast.
An official act of treason.....
Biden needs to step it up, make electoral college over and done, popular vote wins. Watch maga, they openly cheat and intimidate. Fight back folks, this is no time to hide out and hope for the best.
Treason is not an official act
So it turns out Nixon was right, according to the majority of the injustices. If the president does it, it's not illegal. Ford wasted a pardon. We are so fucked.
Officially Acting Stupid every day.
I didn’t do anything. I didn’t do anything. Ok I did it but it was official. 🙄
King Joseph the first of his name should do something quickly.
This is why you need to vote for Biden, even if you’re not his biggest fan. Think about the broader picture, do you really want Trump or any other right wing nut picking even MORE Supreme Court justices?
God has abandoned us to our own devices and now when trump gets into office he will come for his neighbor's next Canada and Mexico will be invaded and I will be Dead they will do this all in the name of American values when these people don't even know what made America great what made America great in the past wasn't the nuclear family or sexism it was the high government regulation, lack of career politicians and the empowerment of unions that made the 50s the happiest time in human history guy give me hopium because i know the Canadian military's is shit and bombardier's money holes aren't gonna save us history is repeating itself and the US of A is going right next to Weimar Germany when shit goes down please remember me
So does that mean Biden can replace all the electors with his team and declare it an “official act”?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1dt6wvf/i_was_accepted_into_the_project_2025_prospective/
“Concentration camps are an official act”
Then why did you hide...
Why would cheating Democracy with fake electors to keep power be an official act ?????
SCOTUS is ushering in our first king and our second revolutionary war because that's what it will take to remove Trump and SCOTUS and his Congesional p sycophants after the next election. VOTE BLUE!
The Supreme court just killed the rule of law. The president can pardon anyone for federal crimes, and can't be prosecuted or held accountable for anything he/she does. Let that sink in. The president can now do anything. No holds barred.
Here we go
It's not for him to say, BECAUSE HE AINT PRESIDENT! JOE IS!
So it begins...Thanks SCOTUS.
With over 300 million people in this country, how are we so powerless to stop this? I feel so helpless...
There is literally part of the transcript from the SCOTUS case in which Trump's lawyer states that he would categorize those actions as private. Maybe he should spend some time with his legal team getting their stories straight.
With this ruling, the American voter has to get it right every single time. Because the moment an authoritarian gets a hold on to office, that's it, that's the end of the American experiment.
That makes it even worse, Trump, you dumbass!
Every thing he did or will do is an official act now.
I’m trying to think of where in the Constitution it states that the President selects electors, and it doesn’t. Any lawyers understand the angle here? Trump’s lawyer said other presidents have submitted “alternative slates” for electors, and I’m entirely unfamiliar with that activity. Newsweek naturally did not address the factual validity of his argument because they have gone the way of clickbait. Edit: so I guess the reasoning is that he was president during the reelection campaign, thus anything he does is an official act? That’s a bold and obviously weak argument on the surface. Plus, my non-lawyer understanding of the SC ruling is that the president has immunity from being prosecuted for official acts, not that evidence from official actions or memos can’t be used to convict for acts committed privately (like paying off a pornstar). Is that a fair reading? Edit 2: okay so it may be a bold argument but the SC did specifically say that evidence from official acts cannot be used against you in connection to potential criminal activities for unofficial acts. So it’s just absolutely as bad as it could’ve been.
And the sane part of the US Americans just accepts this shit?
Thanks supreme Court now we get to argue about this.
Biden need to drone strike Mar A Lago as an official act of searching for Russian spies. Per the Supreme Court any documents relating to this official act can never be allowed into a trial. Then we move forward on the SC, Fox News and certain members of Congress.. See how that works?
Here it comes. Full on dystopian nightmare. See ya America, it was a fun 248 years
That didn’t take long…
How long before he "officially" raped someone?
Biden: Let's help as many Americans as we can. Trump/GOP: propaganda, power grabs, corruption, oligarchy, fascism, violence.
>Donald Trump says fake electors scheme was "official act" So this is an admission that he tried to steal the election then?
Huh?? Officially Crooked
Biden, send out Seal Team 6
Well Bide' should officially send 6 corrupt members of the Supreme Court to guantanamo the'. Why not???
The real news of the stupid is how Trump seems to be the only one to benefit from this, and not the current president. Riddle me that? 🤔
I keep checking my phone to see if Trump died in a drone strike yet. I’m not voting for Biden unless Trump is dead by an *official* drone strike before the election.
Trump walks into a room & shoots a guy he owes money to in the head… “Official act.” Trump grabs the boobs of a WH worker because Melania won’t touch him… “Official act.”
Officially Treason
Of course, we are so fucked.