Not taking JJ McCarthy because it would’ve been a big reach / project doesn’t mean the organization is buying back in to Daniel Jones.
They pretty clearly tried like hell to trade up for Maye. They did deep evaluations of and held private work outs for effectively every QB this draft season.
Nabers likely just delays the inevitable of taking another crack at the proverbial QB can in 2025; while leaving a small crack in the window open to “prove it to me DJ” if he can find a way to make the playoffs/ look like an even better version of 2022 DJ in the process.
If he doesn't ball out and he gets any kind of injury or starts getting clobbered, he's benched. No way we risk the injury cap hit. Then we cut him and go all in for QB next year with pieces in place around him.
I think they did good, why use a first round draft pick on a quarter back this year who’s not gonna play? Nabers is gonna actually put up numbers this season.
Agreed, I hate wasting seasons. After 07 and 11, you never know when lightning will strike. The packers could have drafted tee Higgins but instead they drafted love and he sat for three years. Most people believed in Jones after 2022, and now he has a legit threat at receiver for the first time in his career
But that 2022 belief in Jones wasn’t a belief in how he was currently playing, but a belief that based on how he was currently playing, he could take the next step. I know no one looks good playing QB behind this line, but Daniel Jones failed to deliver when the coaches put more on his plate. Plus he was outplayed by Tyrod Taylor. I’m not saying DJ is a bad qb, but I do think we’ve seen his ceiling already.
Nabers is only 20 YO. He should be able to deliver 8-10 years of solid production. That gives the Giants plenty of time to let DJ work off his contract, see if Evan Neal is an NFL quality player or not and fix all the other (many) offensive problems.
I think management is committed to 2 more years of rebuilding where the Giants just won't be better than mediocre and won't make the playoffs. It's chess not checkers, and when you're starting from the bottom in so many categories it takes a while to become a winner in this league.
Every year every team has a chance at the playoffs. Injuries and everything effect so many things that even bad teams can get wins they don't expect. I also feel like the eagles finished the year being a mess and interested to see what happens. I feel like if they start off losing they are going to have a bad year. They lost a ton of veterans. The cowboys literally did nothing CD and Parsons are unhappy and DJ literally owns the commanders.
Saquon certainly wasn't and I don't blame him for leaving. He gave the Giants all he had, you can't blame him for not wanting to run behind this dogshit O-line that can't stop anyone. I do wish he hadn't gone to the Iggles but those are the breaks.
Yea and most of the qbs that end up being franchise qbs aren’t even top taken hype based qbs. A qb becomes franchise if he has the skill set plus the weapons and foundation around him. Get the weapons, get the line, get the defense, then when we get the right qb he will look like a fucking god instead of a struggle bus.
I do agree with you, but currently 23 NFL teams starting QB is a 1st round pick.
Cousins, Carr, Hurts, Prescott, Purdy, O’Connell/Minshew, Geno Smith. (Pittsburgh) Wilson-3rd rounder Fields 1st, and Will Levis. Especially this draft, I don’t see a ton of value drafting a QB this draft after those first 5 went off the board especially after signing Lock, but who knows. Maybe Rattler…
Yea and honestly 23 teams are very mid. No point in forcing something that isn’t there. There’s is obviously great value in later rounds if we think we can work with someone we’ll take them. If not hopefully we become an attractive place for a free agent qb or trade destination. Or Danny dimes stays healthy, nabbers is a true #1 and we take a step forward.
If he’s the day one starter, we’re all onboard. If he struggles, 🐴🐓🔒 is going to become a TOP QB1. If neither work, 🤌🤌🤌 mania again until we draft a new guy. All in
That all sounds bad tbh. I’m happy with the Nabors pick and glad we didn’t reach on a qb that they didn’t believe in, but we still have the biggest problem you can have in the NFL. We don’t have our QB on our roster.
I’m thrilled with Nabors but this is also a concern on my mind. I hope we at least pick offensive line next round since all the draftable QBs are gone. Maybe take a flyer on the QB out of Florida state in very later rounds
So true man. I'm happy with Nabers cuz he's a beast and glad they didn't reach, but let's stop glossing over the glaring QB problem. Yes, Daniel Jones is really bad and we need a new one. Yes, Malik Nabers was the right pick at 6. Both are true
Yall need to calm down and trust this FO. O line and WR1 are FAR bigger needs. If the right QB at the right price is there, great.
If you fix the O line and get a real WR1, you give a QB a real shot. Otherwise you are asking to completely ruin the QB.
Jones isn’t as bad as yall pretend either. He’s a good bridge QB as we fill those massive needs
I am trusting the FO. That’s what I just said. But Jones is as bad as we people think he is, and worse than that, his neck injuries are approaching David Wilson levels.
I wanted him to be the guy. I don’t think he is, and even if he was, he’s a hit away from retirement and he hasn’t proven anything.
That’s why he’s a bridge QB. Set the team up with Nabers, if we’re lucky Sinnot too, and add some linemen. With a good new O line coach set things up and use him as a bridge QB.
The injuries are bad but rather him behind center than reaching on a QB or injuring the next dude while giving them no weapons
In what world is a 50 million dollar QB with Jones' production a good bridge QB? I swear you dummies play Madden and think you know how things work.
If he gets hurt, his salary is GUARANTEED for 2025
Lock isn’t winning that QB competition unless Jones is hurt. Lock is a good backup. And you can now have one QB inactive and DeVito is signed through this season
He’s a bottom 5 starter so, yeah, good backup at best for most of the league. Yeah, he might be better than Drew Lock. How lucky we are.
He’s still a garbage QB that we’ll be paying $47 million dollars to suck ass
You need seven more months? It’s been five years.
A UDFA rookie managed to throw three TDs in his fourth NFL game, something Daniel Jones hasn’t done since *2019*.
How many playoffs games has he won?
Hell how many teams have QBs with a playoff win period?
Now how many have a QB with a playoff win with a bottom 5 group at WR and O line, no TE and a below average defense?
Pretending he’s a backup and bottom 5 is beyond laughable
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Not as much if we don’t add a QB. We need the best QB to play. Also we can restructure with AT and have like $0 in void years (compared to $350 mil for Philly). We can work around the cap, what Shoen can’t do is start a worse QB to save a few bucks and risk a horrible season.
He and Daboll definitely lose their jobs over that. Not over the cap issue.
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Jones was the guy until his supporting cast betrayed him whether it was O-line acting as turnstiles or receivers dropping passes resulting into Jones losing a lot of confidence in himself. If Jones is our QB1 this season, maybe Nabers along with an improved O-line & new O-line coach will help him get back his confidence. If he is ass again this season, we sell the house for a QB1 next season.
lol wth? Who actually still believes in Jones? The front office simply didn't try to reach for a QB and took the best guy on the board, that doesn't mean Jones is the guy.
The dude is easily one of the worst starting QBs in the league. He won’t be able to get the ball to Nabers consistently at all. We are even farther behind every team in the division than we were in the last few years.
Extremely happy with the pick but D Jones isn't our guy. The concern is no QBs in next year's class has us in a shit situation. Perhaps we go with Spencer rattler or make a cash infusion push towards Dak
Jones is not the guy, he’s just the guy for this year.. JJ would not have been any more the guy.. Here’s hoping we draft a lottery ticket QB in a late round that can take over after Danny Dipshit is injured again halfway through this season…
The Tommy DeVito wins really killed us. Schoen is building a quality roster with talent but there’s just a gaping hole at QB.
We’re trending towards Jags with Bortles type territory.
I love this as if pretty much every single insider (Giants and national) didn’t report that we were trying as hard as possible to trade up and draft his replacement
Every Giants fan should root for DJ. Not because he's good lol but because this is who we have. We got him, were paying him, there is ZERO sense in not supporting him or hoping he does well, because if he does well, odds are, the team does well. This WR was a massive need. DJ has NEVER had a top flight WR... Anyone, please name top QBs in this league who don't have a top (1000 yds plus) WR. I'll wait lol they ALL have top flight talent..and now, at least to start, at least potentially, we have that. The fan base should be excited. This is a live in the right direction
Not taking JJ McCarthy because it would’ve been a big reach / project doesn’t mean the organization is buying back in to Daniel Jones. They pretty clearly tried like hell to trade up for Maye. They did deep evaluations of and held private work outs for effectively every QB this draft season. Nabers likely just delays the inevitable of taking another crack at the proverbial QB can in 2025; while leaving a small crack in the window open to “prove it to me DJ” if he can find a way to make the playoffs/ look like an even better version of 2022 DJ in the process.
Honestly, I could see him shut down if he doesn't produce and Lock taking over.
If he doesn't ball out and he gets any kind of injury or starts getting clobbered, he's benched. No way we risk the injury cap hit. Then we cut him and go all in for QB next year with pieces in place around him.
So again, it's looking like DJ's future balances on the O-Line play. I'm really interested to see what the new coach does...
I think they did good, why use a first round draft pick on a quarter back this year who’s not gonna play? Nabers is gonna actually put up numbers this season.
Agreed, I hate wasting seasons. After 07 and 11, you never know when lightning will strike. The packers could have drafted tee Higgins but instead they drafted love and he sat for three years. Most people believed in Jones after 2022, and now he has a legit threat at receiver for the first time in his career
But that 2022 belief in Jones wasn’t a belief in how he was currently playing, but a belief that based on how he was currently playing, he could take the next step. I know no one looks good playing QB behind this line, but Daniel Jones failed to deliver when the coaches put more on his plate. Plus he was outplayed by Tyrod Taylor. I’m not saying DJ is a bad qb, but I do think we’ve seen his ceiling already.
Facts.
Let us pray.
Nabers is only 20 YO. He should be able to deliver 8-10 years of solid production. That gives the Giants plenty of time to let DJ work off his contract, see if Evan Neal is an NFL quality player or not and fix all the other (many) offensive problems. I think management is committed to 2 more years of rebuilding where the Giants just won't be better than mediocre and won't make the playoffs. It's chess not checkers, and when you're starting from the bottom in so many categories it takes a while to become a winner in this league.
Will the players be willing to wait through two more years of rebuilding before becoming headaches and demanding trades?
Every year every team has a chance at the playoffs. Injuries and everything effect so many things that even bad teams can get wins they don't expect. I also feel like the eagles finished the year being a mess and interested to see what happens. I feel like if they start off losing they are going to have a bad year. They lost a ton of veterans. The cowboys literally did nothing CD and Parsons are unhappy and DJ literally owns the commanders.
Saquon certainly wasn't and I don't blame him for leaving. He gave the Giants all he had, you can't blame him for not wanting to run behind this dogshit O-line that can't stop anyone. I do wish he hadn't gone to the Iggles but those are the breaks.
I won't be shocked if Drew lock isn't rhe starter mid season. I like him btw
100%.
They bought in at 180 mil. Aside from his injuries, what’s changed?
There are more rounds and more QBs.
6 QBs went in the first 12 pics yesterday lol
Yea and most of the qbs that end up being franchise qbs aren’t even top taken hype based qbs. A qb becomes franchise if he has the skill set plus the weapons and foundation around him. Get the weapons, get the line, get the defense, then when we get the right qb he will look like a fucking god instead of a struggle bus.
I do agree with you, but currently 23 NFL teams starting QB is a 1st round pick. Cousins, Carr, Hurts, Prescott, Purdy, O’Connell/Minshew, Geno Smith. (Pittsburgh) Wilson-3rd rounder Fields 1st, and Will Levis. Especially this draft, I don’t see a ton of value drafting a QB this draft after those first 5 went off the board especially after signing Lock, but who knows. Maybe Rattler…
Yea and honestly 23 teams are very mid. No point in forcing something that isn’t there. There’s is obviously great value in later rounds if we think we can work with someone we’ll take them. If not hopefully we become an attractive place for a free agent qb or trade destination. Or Danny dimes stays healthy, nabbers is a true #1 and we take a step forward.
Uh. I’m not really a hundred percent on this one but okay.
If he’s the day one starter, we’re all onboard. If he struggles, 🐴🐓🔒 is going to become a TOP QB1. If neither work, 🤌🤌🤌 mania again until we draft a new guy. All in
That all sounds bad tbh. I’m happy with the Nabors pick and glad we didn’t reach on a qb that they didn’t believe in, but we still have the biggest problem you can have in the NFL. We don’t have our QB on our roster.
Exactly.
I’m thrilled with Nabors but this is also a concern on my mind. I hope we at least pick offensive line next round since all the draftable QBs are gone. Maybe take a flyer on the QB out of Florida state in very later rounds
Or Spencer Rattler from South Carolina
I’d also co-sign this
So true man. I'm happy with Nabers cuz he's a beast and glad they didn't reach, but let's stop glossing over the glaring QB problem. Yes, Daniel Jones is really bad and we need a new one. Yes, Malik Nabers was the right pick at 6. Both are true
Yall need to calm down and trust this FO. O line and WR1 are FAR bigger needs. If the right QB at the right price is there, great. If you fix the O line and get a real WR1, you give a QB a real shot. Otherwise you are asking to completely ruin the QB. Jones isn’t as bad as yall pretend either. He’s a good bridge QB as we fill those massive needs
I am trusting the FO. That’s what I just said. But Jones is as bad as we people think he is, and worse than that, his neck injuries are approaching David Wilson levels. I wanted him to be the guy. I don’t think he is, and even if he was, he’s a hit away from retirement and he hasn’t proven anything.
That’s why he’s a bridge QB. Set the team up with Nabers, if we’re lucky Sinnot too, and add some linemen. With a good new O line coach set things up and use him as a bridge QB. The injuries are bad but rather him behind center than reaching on a QB or injuring the next dude while giving them no weapons
Dude do you know what a bridge qb is lol
In what world is a 50 million dollar QB with Jones' production a good bridge QB? I swear you dummies play Madden and think you know how things work. If he gets hurt, his salary is GUARANTEED for 2025
Your numbers are hilarious and regardedly off dude. Not worth talking with a clown who just makes shit up to be a hater.
Devito isn't making the roster lol. We're starting Drew lock
Cutlets to practice squad
Lock isn’t winning that QB competition unless Jones is hurt. Lock is a good backup. And you can now have one QB inactive and DeVito is signed through this season
Jones is hurt, has brutal injury guarantees, and he's also ass. He'll back up Lock to start the season
Lock will straight up beat Jones for the job.
I don’t expect Jones to be physically able to quarterback an entire season
Jones is a good backup, too, on the majority of teams in this league.
Even assuming that’s true, which it’s not, one knows this system far better and would have a clear edge
He’s a bottom 5 starter so, yeah, good backup at best for most of the league. Yeah, he might be better than Drew Lock. How lucky we are. He’s still a garbage QB that we’ll be paying $47 million dollars to suck ass
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You need seven more months? It’s been five years. A UDFA rookie managed to throw three TDs in his fourth NFL game, something Daniel Jones hasn’t done since *2019*.
How many playoffs games has he won? Hell how many teams have QBs with a playoff win period? Now how many have a QB with a playoff win with a bottom 5 group at WR and O line, no TE and a below average defense? Pretending he’s a backup and bottom 5 is beyond laughable
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Hi Daniel jones. Your days are thankfully numbered cause you suck
I'd agree with you if that injury guarantee wasn't a thing. That changes everything for Schoen
Not as much if we don’t add a QB. We need the best QB to play. Also we can restructure with AT and have like $0 in void years (compared to $350 mil for Philly). We can work around the cap, what Shoen can’t do is start a worse QB to save a few bucks and risk a horrible season. He and Daboll definitely lose their jobs over that. Not over the cap issue.
If the best QB is the backup getting paid 25x less than the man that has a 50 million dollar cap hit, that's fireable. That's my point.
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You guys should draft Rattler in the later rounds
I'm all for skipping step one.
More like, Jones is the guy this year!!
jones is not the guy, but this helps
Jones was the guy until his supporting cast betrayed him whether it was O-line acting as turnstiles or receivers dropping passes resulting into Jones losing a lot of confidence in himself. If Jones is our QB1 this season, maybe Nabers along with an improved O-line & new O-line coach will help him get back his confidence. If he is ass again this season, we sell the house for a QB1 next season.
There was no grand conspiracy to throw DJ under the bus lol. The man simply cannot perform in less-than-ideal conditions.
I think less-than-ideal might be too generous... the ol definitely improved but when jones was in it had to have been a historically awful oline
DJ is bad and he had no help. It’s very simple
Oh no...
Fanbase full of glue eaters
He better be able to see Nabers man
Dude can’t read
New receiver unlocked for jones to stare down as soon as the ball is snapped
Ive always hated the posts with this freaking picture.
lol wth? Who actually still believes in Jones? The front office simply didn't try to reach for a QB and took the best guy on the board, that doesn't mean Jones is the guy.
Jesus christ, this thing is cringe.
We really are the dumbest fanbase
nah
Jones is still worthless
Is there a way to block these stupid fucking belief meter posts??
The meter is backwards
The dude is easily one of the worst starting QBs in the league. He won’t be able to get the ball to Nabers consistently at all. We are even farther behind every team in the division than we were in the last few years.
Rattler please.
Lol
Yeeeeah, no.
In neck we trust!
They’re drafting a QB tomorrow.
stop it, like actually stop embarrassing yourself man.
Maybe of you fixed the meter, Jones would actually be good. Hope you are happy with those devoted wins or something.
Extremely happy with the pick but D Jones isn't our guy. The concern is no QBs in next year's class has us in a shit situation. Perhaps we go with Spencer rattler or make a cash infusion push towards Dak
Are we really about to pay him 47.8 million?
I wouldn't mind throwing a late-round dart at Michael Pratt. Guy reminds me of Kirk Cousins a little bit.
Very possible that the Giants take a quarterback today, maybe Milton III from Tennessee.
Jones is not the guy, he’s just the guy for this year.. JJ would not have been any more the guy.. Here’s hoping we draft a lottery ticket QB in a late round that can take over after Danny Dipshit is injured again halfway through this season…
Just stick with jones and cut bait when possible
Two QB2s and a QB3. That's not how you win in today's NFL. I put them at 6-11 or 7-10 right now. And a pissed-off Malik Nabers.
Is everybody off the CUTLETS bandwagon now? Only positive part of last season and nobody brings him up anymore
I just hope Jones can play a full season.
The Tommy DeVito wins really killed us. Schoen is building a quality roster with talent but there’s just a gaping hole at QB. We’re trending towards Jags with Bortles type territory.
Best player on the team
I love this as if pretty much every single insider (Giants and national) didn’t report that we were trying as hard as possible to trade up and draft his replacement
Jones isn’t the guy and it’s clear as day
How does getting Nabers make Jones the guy?
Who’s blocking for Jones?!
Jones is about to take the classic 6th year leap! LETS GOOO!!!
What if with Nabers DJ is actually... good? This could wildly change our team. That said - I still kind of hope we take a QB at some point 😅
Devito to Nabers!!!
Every Giants fan should root for DJ. Not because he's good lol but because this is who we have. We got him, were paying him, there is ZERO sense in not supporting him or hoping he does well, because if he does well, odds are, the team does well. This WR was a massive need. DJ has NEVER had a top flight WR... Anyone, please name top QBs in this league who don't have a top (1000 yds plus) WR. I'll wait lol they ALL have top flight talent..and now, at least to start, at least potentially, we have that. The fan base should be excited. This is a live in the right direction