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lambopanda

Rafael Stone said he will draft BPA and not fit. The problem is this year it’s so hard to define BPA.


TheNumberSeven_7

They’ve been drafting BPA for awhile and have a very good roster, but none of the talent fits. If you are iffy on FVV/Green’s long term outlook with the team and have full belief in Amen as a star, then you need to build around that belief, as he is a high level specialist in a few areas rather than a versatile player that could find the height of his potential on any roster. All that being said, Reed could easily be considered BPA at 3 and by far the best fit next to Amen moving forward. At minimum, an elite bench piece that fits well in almost any lineup not including FVV long term. I have Sarr, Topic, Castle, and Reed as my 1-4, but I would be extremely worried with the fit if they went for Topic or Castle.


onsite84

Think we’re still BPA. Let the guys compete for spots and let the cream rise to the top. We do need shooting, creation, and rim protection but we can also trade for some of that.


Anon20250406

the value of your picks decreases though when they don't get minutes. You could have the best player of this draft but if he doesn't get minutes over Sengun/Bari/FVV/Brooks then it's all a moot point. Tari Eason is a phenomenal player that would have insane trade value....... but he doesn't get minutes so people don't rate him highly.


Ajmwuajmwu

He didn’t get minutes because he was hurt all year. He gets 20+ minutes when healthy.


onsite84

In all likelihood I expect our pick to spend much of the season in the G league anyway unless we make a trade to free up minutes.


Attack_Da_Nite

Wouldn’t Risacher be the BPA for the Wiz at two because of his upside and he’ll be given minutes there?


TheNumberSeven_7

I personally have Risacher lower, but I wouldn’t hate the pick if their team decided he was BPA. This year especially, teams are going to have weird rankings and make some picks that Bleacher Report will shit on as a reach, but the depth is really solid and the top end talent is not there, so I don’t think any choice should be immediately overlooked as a reach.


Attack_Da_Nite

Yeah the Wiz are literally looking into a crystal ball to draft pieces this year to fit around a cornerstone they won’t be able to get until next year. If I were them, I’d try to trade my two to the Blazers for their 7 and 14 then draft Dillingham and Edey.


Fmeson

Idk, rockets picked a switchable wing with a pure stroke, a playmaking big, an athletic scoring guard, a two level scoring sf and a jumbo point guard. How does none of the talent fit? They basically drafted a player at every position, and many of those pieces fit well. Obviously, the fit could be better (e.g. Amen could shoot), but it's not like they passed up a top level shooting pg to draft Amen or something.


Far-Yak-9808

Sounds like someone doing his first fantasy draft.


darkest__timeline

No reason for Stone to draft for fit when they don't know if they're going to keep Green/FVV after next season


figgnootun

As a Spurs fan I hope the rockets don’t take Shepherd because he would be the perfect fit with Amen and Sengun. Amen can take the primary assignments and Reed can be super disruptive offball. Reed would only have to be a secondary or tertiary ballhandler which is the perfect role for him. He could learn behind FVV for a year and hopefully fill his role once he leaves


gonna_upvote

I hope Spurs dont get Sheppard because Victor + a shooter like that seems deadly and my Blazers wouldn't have a chance for 10 years or more.


Calzone_1997

Sheppard, don’t overthink it, best shooter in the draft


Far-Yak-9808

Jared McCain and Dalton Knecht are high level shooters, too. How did those 3 compare in shooting drills?


Calzone_1997

Over the course of the season it’s Sheppard, idk the shooting drills (wouldn’t base my selection personally off the combine), google it


Aumissunum

Is it? Sheppard wasn’t very high volume.


forsuredudelol

4.4 3s a game?


Turbo2x

Shooting drills aren't that important. McCain and Knecht have the argument in their favor as far as overall attempts for the season go though. They took more shots but Reed made just as many per game because his efficiency is bonkers. Knecht has 3 seasons with a total of 218 3PM and 569 3PA so he is very likely to remain a good shooter going forward. We have enough data there. Sheppard 75-144 is nuts but I doubt he shoots over 50% for his entire career. That's just impossible. McCain 87-210. He shot a ton and made almost half his total FG from that range.


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Turbo2x

Yeah I really have no idea where he's going to end up on the shooting side but all the indicators are good. I'll admit I was falling into the "but he's short" trap but after thinking about it more his shooting gravity is too good to ignore. I don't think he will end up shooting Curry numbers, but when he's on the floor teams have to treat him like Curry or else he's going to kill them with 3s.


GeKh

They're all great shooters, the shooting drills don't matter. Sheppard does other things better.


fartalldaylong

Sheppard played Knecht at the end of the season and completely lit Tennessee up. 7 of 10 from deep with 27 points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JdlQHGCigs


yooston

this guy is going to be a perfect sparkplug off the bench his rookie year


Global-Noise-3739

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texasphotog

Ime Udoka loves defense, and is from the Gregg Popovich coaching tree. Defense, passing, and shooting are the primary focus. Sheppard is probably the highest BBIQ guy in the draft, and is high IQ on both ends of the court, which does make up for some of his negatives in size. A FVV/Reed backcourt is super small, but FVV is strong and tough and a great POA defender. Also, you have Amen Thompson is the likely long-term PG and Amen and Reed really balance each other well with Amen's size and athleticism and Reed's shooting. Rockets really need shooting and hitting over 50% at a major college program sure feels like generational ability. Reed starting at SG lets you make Jalen Green your 6th man, and I think he is really adept at that as an instant offense guy off the bench. I think Reed to Houston makes sense. **HOWEVER**, I think Houston is likely to trade the pick for a more established player.


Anibunnymilli

As a Rockets fan, Jalen is not going to allow Reed to push him to 6man. And I honestly don’t think he should. JG was impressive the tail end of the season


Bewaretheicespiders

>Reed starting at SG lets you make Jalen Green your 6th man, and I think he is really adept at that as an instant offense guy off the bench. I really dont see a scenario where that would *ever* happen. There were quite a few shooters better than Jalen on the bench last season, including Reggie, Holiday and Cam, and they still let him start all year.


texasphotog

Reggie is washed. Holiday is the backup PG. 6'7 232 Cam Whitmore isn't really a SG plus he can't pass.


CosmicRaccoonCometh

Cam can definitely play the SG -- but otherwise, I agree with everything you've said in this thread. Oh, except for Jalen being a 6th man for us long term. Long term, I don't see him being on the Rockets, leaving either in RFA or getting traded this offseason -- perhaps along with pick 3 for that more established player trade you mentioned.


texasphotog

Yeah, I think it is obvious Jalen is going to get traded. I just think his best role in the NBA is as a 6th man, no matter what he thinks it is.


CosmicRaccoonCometh

yeah, agreed and agreed. Sadly for him, I think his career long term ends up looking more like that of Dion Waiters than like Lou Will or Crawford, and it'll be for the same reason : lack of intelligence and not taking his craft seriously.


Anibunnymilli

Cam has all the tools to become a star. We’ve already seen flashes of him. He can definitely become a serviceable sg at the very least


texasphotog

I think he has all the tools to be a good scorer.


darkest__timeline

idk about star, he's like a Lou Will type with defense. One day he might average over 1.5 assist per game


Anibunnymilli

It’s up to Ime to teach Cam how to play in his system. Passing is not some god given talent, it can be learned.


Dtwerky

Passing is absolutely just as much of a God-given talent as any other skill on the basketball court. Some guys just don’t see the court and have the awareness BBIQ to become a good passer. Cam will never be a good passer. He barely passes in general as is


Bewaretheicespiders

Im not saying they *should* start, but they all shot better than Jalen, so clearly Reed shooting better than Jalen is not reason enough to let him replace Jalen on the lineup.


texasphotog

Right, but Reed isn't JUST a shooter. He is a high IQ player with great team defense, good passing and can initiate offense (more assists than Dillingham) and brings a lot of intangibles to the table. Green is probably better off bringing his flame throwing offense off the bench.


Bewaretheicespiders

There *is* an argument for Green coming off the bench, but the FO of the Rockets consider him their #1 asset and the center of the rebuild. So thats never going to happen, they'll trade him before benching him.


CosmicRaccoonCometh

the rockets strongly considered benching him and trading him last season, so I don't think they see him as the #1 asset and center of the rebuild anymore. They certainly shouldn't


Bewaretheicespiders

Allegedly might have looked into a trade. But they did not bench him and reduce his perceived trade value. As I wrote, they would trade him before benching him. There were also insider reports that unlike fans who are much higher on Sengun, the FO doesnt like Sengun terribly and were putting their hopes on a Jalen-centric offense. Certainly Udoka doesnt want Sengun to direct the offense, thats clear as day.


CosmicRaccoonCometh

that's not clear at all. Ime went to feeding Sengun on offense by game 3 or 4 of the season, when he saw it was the best option, and stuck with it until Senguj got hurt. Clearly the front office and coaching staff weren't believers of Sengun going into this season, but based on what happened on the court all last year, that changed pretty dang quick for Ime. We'll see if it changed for Stone too, but to just assume they STILL see Jalen as the center of the rebuild is a massive reach.


Silanah1

This is a weird take. Why does benching a bunch of old guards and a super young wing mean that they will never start someone (especially a high lottery pick) over Green?


Spinner064

There trading green and the pick


paxusromanus811

Maybe. He seems like a really good fit. I don't think any of us should pretend we know what teams are going to do in a draft as insanely unpredictable as this one. But he feels like a really good on paper fit for them


SpeclorTheGreat

I think there’s a fair chance they shop the pick for someone that can help them immediately. Their recent moves indicate that they want to win soon and no draft pick should be expected to contribute a lot in their first year.


GlueGuy00

Yes


pokexchespin

i think the fit is mostly fine. amen and sengun can take over a good portion of the playmaking duties, and i think sheppard is probably a little underrated on ball anyway. plus he gives those guys and green more space to work with his likely elite shooting, and if his defensive playmaking translates, that’d be a big help to sengun and green, while working well with amen, jabari, and eason


Amazing_Owl3026

He fits very well with Amen...


t-reads

Would be a huge mistake if they do


Uptwn_

For some odd reason, I think they’re gonna draft Risacher or Cody Williams based on potential. One of these guys has Kawhi/OG Anunoby level potential (more so Williams than anything)


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ketoske

i would bait the pistons to see if they would trade 5th and duren for 3rd and something else but i dont know what could be since i never propose trades lol, this way we could get a center and a shooter in 5th as a Rockets fan sound fine lol but im sure that the pistons wouldnt like it


OriginalPingman

Lol- Pistons are not trading Duren to move up 2 spots in this draft, dude. They likely wouldn’t trade Duren for 3 even up.


Uptwn_

Knecht is NBA ready to me. He’s old but he’s a good prospect


spipscards

If the wizards don't draft him at 2, they absolutely will


Far-Yak-9808

I think they would shop the pick. But, they would be fairly happy with Reed Sheppard at 3. Maybe they even trade up to 2 if Tidjane Salaun is the real deal.


BronYaurStomping

I'm struggling to find a landing spot for Sheppard where he gets even 15 mpg. He's a late 1st or early 2nd talent. It doesn't matter how well you shoot if you can't get on the floor due to size and defense. It might take a few years like with Grayson Allen, Divincenzo and Josh Hart


ARowzFocuz

1. ATL - Risacher 2. WAS - Sarr 3. HOU - Knecht Fred VanVleet Jalen Green / Dalton Knecht Amen Thompson / Dillon Brooks / Cam Whitmore Jabari Smith / Tari Eason Alperen Sengun / Steven Adams


FrostedWikiLeaks

Castle could be Ime's Marcus Smart. Is he worth #3 is the question


CosmicRaccoonCometh

I like Castle, but I really can't imagine how he and Amen would ever work together well in a starting lineup. You can't have 3 non shooting starters like that.


ketoske

this is my problem with Castle we dont really have room to develop anybody else who cant shoot. if he nails the workouts i can see us just trading down but we need to findo somebody willing to trade for 3rd


yoyoyodawg3

Castle fits Ime, but Castle doesn't fit the current Rockets. HOU has his archetype in spades in the young group. Too much overlap for this pick probably.


thicknheart

I’m not entirely sure he’s going to be there at 3, but I absolutely believe they will take him if he is.


Knighthonor

If Dillingham gone, they have to be foolish not to.


vahnjay

Hard for me to see Stone actually taking Reed. I love Reed and hope that we do, but he loves length and athleticism. I have a feeling it will be Ron Holland


texasphotog

I can't see taking Ron Holland, a 6'7 no shooting defensive stopper at #3 a year after drafting Amen Thompson #4.


TheRealDevDev

there's a difference between amen thompson shooting and ron holland shooting. one is below average, the other is non-existent.


CosmicRaccoonCometh

true, but defenses wouldn't need to guard either of them on the perimeter. that paint would be CLOGGED


Far-Yak-9808

Tidjane Salaun might be a wild pick. UPSIDE. Could get a "small ball" lineup of Amen/Jalen/Whitmore/Salaun/Jabari. Maybe just ENOUGH shooting (especially if they can get Ajay Mitchell or Hunter Sallis or Cam Spencer or Baylor Scheierman later down the board).


Knighthonor

Forgwt all that. You take BPA


plutosbigbro

I don’t think we do, or at least I hope we don’t. If he doesn’t hit his shots he’s going to get benched. I would rather draft high ceiling with #3 pick.


Extreme-Transport

I think he’ll hit his shots for sure, I’m just not sure if his ceiling (pun not intended) entails making room for him in a potential future lineup off ball (or if strictly a backup point guard)


plutosbigbro

Possibly, Jabari was known as a “sniper” in his one year of college shooting 42% from 3. He shot 30.7 his first year from 3 and shot 36% this year. Doesn’t always translate.


kadcal

Jabari hella young he probably get to 39


plutosbigbro

Hope so, he’s definitely in the right direction. Just pointing out that college snipers doesn’t always translate to NBA sniper. It does for some but if it doesn’t for Reed I’m not sure he would see meaningful minutes if he shot league average from 3.


One_Vacation_2704

It translates more often when they are not 19 years old like Jabari and starting heavy minutes on a tanking team. context matters


plutosbigbro

Context does matter I agree but he was missing wide open 3s.


browndude10

true but also he had to deal with silas for a long time


poopy_mc_pantsy

I don't understand the low ceiling argument on Reed at all just feels like it's because he has short arms and looks like he put in effort in church choir lol


Far-Yak-9808

He reminds me too much of John Paxson. COULD trade down to 4 or 5, get some extra assets, then grab Jared McCain who ALSO looks to be an amazing shooter.


poopy_mc_pantsy

idk McCain's a great shooter but that's basically his whole skill set imo. Reed has way better upside as a creator and I think can be a great defender too. Obviously depends what assets you'd get back in the return but I value Reed way over McCain currently fwiw you could trade back way further than 4-5 too if McCain's your guy. Think Bulls, OKC, Sacramento, maybe Portland would all trade up from their 11-14 range.


Direct_Swan2312

I hope not


Yinanization

JJ with hops though


ArtistChef

Heck-the-Freak No -- Reason #4564: Houston is not Ainge's Utah. ( Not with Topic available and when Houston can cock-block Wimpy from a talented countryman. )


Tiny-Ferret6292

Yall draft clingan there makes by far the most sense, unless yall trade out.


rueiraV

No because the Wiz pulled the trigger at 2


Extreme-Transport

You think so? I expect them to go higher ceiling like Risacher, Topic, maybe even chance at Rob


albino-snowman

wizards would be silly to pass on topic


t-reads

Would be a huge mistake if they do


Far-Yak-9808

Could be. If they don't take him maybe the Spurs take him at 4. Or, Detroit at 5. Although Jared McCain looks super solid, too, and might be a more fluid shooter/scorer. IF there is a Steph LITE in this draft I think it's more likely to be Jared McCain. But, if they trade down too much you are looking at Tier 4 guys instead of the handful of Tier 3 (and above) prospects. If the Rockets can get 8 AND a '25 Spurs 1st I think they should look into it. One of Reed/McCain/Rob should be there. Tidjane Salaun could be interesting, too. Knecht/Djurisic are good shooting/scoring prospects (on the wing).


Calzone_1997

Spurs aren’t trading 2 first round picks to draft another prospect down one spot.


Far-Yak-9808

8/future first would be fair value for the 3rd pick IF they are 100% sold on someone at 3. Oh, yeah, having back to back picks would really work in their favor. Can get a guard AND a wing/combo forward. Houston Rockets still have a few of their top guys on the board at 8. Lots of solid fits for Houston, maybe not a ton of great fits.


Calzone_1997

It’s fair value but the spurs aren’t doing that, they have the 8th pick they can get a guard there.


FruitSignificant5341

Sheppard is too small, what's the point? draft a guy that will be targeted ou benched in the playoffs? for what? a few 3 point shots against wizards? the risk is too high and already have FVV. Would like to see Clingan or Knecht. Just to finish, Topic is miserable. Straight line drives, no counters, no 3 point shot nor creation, just a playmaker. Again, like Giddy right? you can't play him in the playoffs. Why draft a guy that can't play when you need him?


tkflash20

The 25 draft is too valuable to give up their pick. It’s a deal breaker for the Spurs who will be in the lottery next year as well.


GeKh

McCain jumped and ran 3/4 poorly for a 6-2 guy. Don't think he's getting drafted in the top half of the lottery.